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I don't think so. May or may not have been over Iranian airspace. I'm just offended that it costed $187 million. The US Navy has ordered 68 of the aircraft, which had a reported total program cost of $12.7 billion. https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/iran-us-drone-shot-down-latest-intl/index.htmlThat's.... a nonsensical amount of money. It should be able to dodge missiles for that price. Hell, it should be invisible.
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June 20, 2019, 02:00:56 PM |
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Iran shot a SPY DRONE of the US which was there to?
To do what?
SPY on them.
What the fuck were they supposed to do? Let the drone run as if it didn't exist?
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June 20, 2019, 02:04:36 PM |
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Perhaps the drone was bait to justify a war?
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June 20, 2019, 02:08:50 PM |
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Perhaps the drone was bait to justify a war?
Maybe but maybe they just try to keep an eye on Iran. Not sure it will be a casus belli, Trump declared he would wage war if American people are hurt, a drone is unmanned so it doesn't fit. Maybe it was just classical spying.
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June 20, 2019, 02:13:48 PM |
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I'm just offended that it costed $187 million. The US Navy has ordered 68 of the aircraft, which had a reported total program cost of $12.7 billion. https://editi[Suspicious link removed]/politics/live-news/iran-us-drone-shot-down-latest-intl/index.html That's.... a nonsensical amount of money. It should be able to dodge missiles for that price. Hell, it should be invisible. 187 Million USD for one drone is just outrageous. I tought that 70-100 million USD per one new F-35 fighter is a lot, but the drones are costing 2 times that. Speaking about the response, I doubt that US will respond with a strike, they would risk huge military escalations.
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June 20, 2019, 02:38:23 PM |
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Trump just tweeted that Iran made a big mistake. I would presume the US military is going to respond. The US cannot let its enemy do what can only be described as an act of war and us not respond. If we do nothing, these types of attacks will continue and will possibly escalate.
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Trump just tweeted that Iran made a big mistake. I would presume the US military is going to respond. The US cannot let its enemy do what can only be described as an act of war and us not respond. If we do nothing, these types of attacks will continue and will possibly escalate. Respond with missles and air strikes. No boots on the ground
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June 20, 2019, 02:55:03 PM |
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Ok I thought he wasn't as stupid as that.
Seems that Trump, Hillary, Obama... It's all the same. Just fat useless bitches waging war for big industries to make money on weapons and oil.
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June 20, 2019, 02:56:26 PM |
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Trump just tweeted that Iran made a big mistake. I would presume the US military is going to respond. The US cannot let its enemy do what can only be described as an act of war and us not respond. If we do nothing, these types of attacks will continue and will possibly escalate. You do understand that your "ennemy" simply dared shooting a drone that you flew over their country right? How can you prevent such "attacks" from continuing I wonder... MAYBE BY NOT FLYING A FUCKING DRONE OVER THEIR COUNTRY?? Edit: If US is even slightly honest here, they would have no problem bringing the case to UN. That's what Iran officials asked! No war but the investigation by UN. We clearly have one country small, in a defensive position, accepting the investigation of UN, and one warmongering bully in an offensive stance, trying to directly declare war. Who's the bad guy?
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June 20, 2019, 03:07:49 PM |
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Trump just tweeted that Iran made a big mistake. I would presume the US military is going to respond. The US cannot let its enemy do what can only be described as an act of war and us not respond. If we do nothing, these types of attacks will continue and will possibly escalate. You do understand that your "ennemy" simply dared shooting a drone that you flew over their country right? How can you prevent such "attacks" from continuing I wonder... MAYBE BY NOT FLYING A FUCKING DRONE OVER THEIR COUNTRY?? The US position is that it was flying in international airspace. I trust the US government more than the largest state sponsor of terrorism (Iran government). Trump just tweeted that Iran made a big mistake. I would presume the US military is going to respond. The US cannot let its enemy do what can only be described as an act of war and us not respond. If we do nothing, these types of attacks will continue and will possibly escalate. Respond with missles and air strikes. No boots on the ground This would be most idea, so that few American lives are at risk. However even air strikes risk retaliation by Iran against military bases we have in the region. I believe we have military bases in both the UAE and Saudi Arabia, plus we have military assets in the ocean nearby.
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June 20, 2019, 03:43:55 PM |
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Trump just tweeted that Iran made a big mistake. I would presume the US military is going to respond. The US cannot let its enemy do what can only be described as an act of war and us not respond. If we do nothing, these types of attacks will continue and will possibly escalate. You do understand that your "ennemy" simply dared shooting a drone that you flew over their country right? How can you prevent such "attacks" from continuing I wonder... MAYBE BY NOT FLYING A FUCKING DRONE OVER THEIR COUNTRY?? The US position is that it was flying in international airspace. I trust the US government more than the largest state sponsor of terrorism (Iran government). Trump just tweeted that Iran made a big mistake. I would presume the US military is going to respond. The US cannot let its enemy do what can only be described as an act of war and us not respond. If we do nothing, these types of attacks will continue and will possibly escalate. Respond with missles and air strikes. No boots on the ground This would be most idea, so that few American lives are at risk. However even air strikes risk retaliation by Iran against military bases we have in the region. I believe we have military bases in both the UAE and Saudi Arabia, plus we have military assets in the ocean nearby. FYI, you sound like a Fox News brainwashed nutter. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) First off, there is ZERO chance that US engages in a military conflict with Iran over this or any other incident. The US cannot let its enemy do what can only be described as an act of war and us not respond. If we do nothing, these types of attacks will continue and will possibly escalate. That's not how the world works sweetheart. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I trust the US government more than the largest state sponsor of terrorism (Iran government). oh honey ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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June 20, 2019, 03:50:26 PM |
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The US will probably send a drone in response
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June 20, 2019, 03:56:56 PM |
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LOL that "largest state sponsor of terrorism" line was completely made up by the US. I can easily think of 3 larger state sponsors of terrorism off the top of my head.
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Trump just tweeted that Iran made a big mistake. I would presume the US military is going to respond. The US cannot let its enemy do what can only be described as an act of war and us not respond. If we do nothing, these types of attacks will continue and will possibly escalate. Respond with missles and air strikes. No boots on the ground The problem with this logic is that Iran is not ISIS, Afghanistan, or Iraq. They have advanced mobile weapons systems which they are adept at hiding. In order to secure the Hormuz Strait as a safe shipping lane, this NECESSITATES boots on the ground to acheive the task. Any air strikes will have limited and temporary effectiveness towards this goal.
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June 20, 2019, 06:55:33 PM |
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Trump just tweeted that Iran made a big mistake. I would presume the US military is going to respond. The US cannot let its enemy do what can only be described as an act of war and us not respond. If we do nothing, these types of attacks will continue and will possibly escalate. Respond with missles and air strikes. No boots on the ground The problem with this logic is that Iran is not ISIS, Afghanistan, or Iraq. They have advanced mobile weapons systems which they are adept at hiding. In order to secure the Hormuz Strait as a safe shipping lane, this NECESSITATES boots on the ground to acheive the task. Any air strikes will have limited and temporary effectiveness towards this goal. We thought Iraqs army was going to do more too look what happened to it. I think Iran is a paper tiger
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June 20, 2019, 06:57:39 PM |
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It's the expense that is propagating the fiat Ponzi of the banking industry. When borrowing/spending money stops, the banking Ponzi will collapse. Until then, we of the wealthier nations will have relative peace. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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June 20, 2019, 07:37:30 PM |
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The defense department released video of the downing it was over the ocean not over Iran. I think Trump needs to hit them hard.
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June 20, 2019, 09:37:32 PM |
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Perhaps the drone was bait to justify a war?
Maybe but maybe they just try to keep an eye on Iran. Not sure it will be a casus belli, Trump declared he would wage war if American people are hurt, a drone is unmanned so it doesn't fit. Maybe it was just classical spying. Surely they would use a satellite for something like that, or just put a drone further back. The US navy should have a zoom function surely?
It'll probably get the response that Turkey got from Russia when they invaded their airspace and shot them down (I don't think much happened to Turkey and Russia should've expected that) ... The defense department released video of the downing it was over the ocean not over Iran. I think Trump needs to hit them hard.
I don't understand the idea of going into a war from one or two incidents especially since America have been aggrovating things themselves. If trump hadn't decided to fight a trade battle with the rest of the world we wouldn't be in as much mess now...
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June 20, 2019, 09:47:19 PM |
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Perhaps the drone was bait to justify a war?
Maybe but maybe they just try to keep an eye on Iran. Not sure it will be a casus belli, Trump declared he would wage war if American people are hurt, a drone is unmanned so it doesn't fit. Maybe it was just classical spying. Surely they would use a satellite for something like that, or just put a drone further back. The US navy should have a zoom function surely?
It'll probably get the response that Turkey got from Russia when they invaded their airspace and shot them down (I don't think much happened to Turkey and Russia should've expected that) ... The defense department released video of the downing it was over the ocean not over Iran. I think Trump needs to hit them hard.
I don't understand the idea of going into a war from one or two incidents especially since America have been aggrovating things themselves. If trump hadn't decided to fight a trade battle with the rest of the world we wouldn't be in as much mess now... Iran declared war shooting down a U.S. plane 20 miles out from their shore
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