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July 09, 2019, 05:42:39 PM
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Avito is a russian marketplace. You do not understand anything at all. Neither in the names nor in the screenshots. It's funny to watch you really.
I do not understand you and where Avito? It has nothing to do with this EOS platform.
On Avito sell goods, including ASICs. Perhaps the developer bought this product and simply copied the photos from there, so as not to take pictures himself.

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July 09, 2019, 05:56:05 PM
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What do you think about other cloud mining companies? Do you have some competitors you won't to beat on this market?

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July 09, 2019, 06:30:50 PM
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What do you think about other cloud mining companies? Do you have some competitors you won't to beat on this market?
Just search Google or here on the forum. There are plenty of such companies and they all compete with each other and try to create more bonuses for users.
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July 09, 2019, 10:23:23 PM
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So why do you need  to raise money? Is that true, that you will buy more equipment to mine coins and this is the reason of fundraising?

- raise money?

- buy more equipment to mine coins?

Where did you see that? Did you see that on their site? because I did not see anything about it and even in that thread do not have any information about it


I'm doubting they plan to BUY more miners

With all the editing on their pics:

https://i.imgur.com/FGqjEhX.jpg

It's the same picture as here:

https://57.img.avito.st/640x480/5599925157.jpg
https://www.avito.ru/moskva/oborudovanie_dlya_biznesa/asic_antminer_s17_56_ths_s_obp_novinka_1516423008
http://archive.fo/PsYgN

So, the miners that are going to mine in their datacenter in Armenia are for sale in Moscow?



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July 10, 2019, 09:07:12 AM
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First, I never said that somebody else is selling those miners, I was asking why are they selling when they never mentioned it, and for a cloud mining company it's a bit contra productive to sell miners, especially in those times when mining profits are up and mining gear supply is down.


But let's break it down

a) They claimed they are an official distributor when called out they turned the official thing into good relation...that's bs

b) As soon as there was a problem with the identity of a team member, that member was instantly laid off, we can call that shady

c) For such business who claims to have all kind of connections and members all over the world, it's again a bad sign that they aren't able to provide more than 3 pictures and a crappy 160p 10 seconds movie of their so-called "operation"

d) until discovered they never claimed to be a reseller or a distributor, but once caught selling gear on a Craig list lookalike site ...they start another what I believe to be a lie.

e) the actual advantages of their cloud model for customers is another big piece of lie...

Let's do a bit of math for this, taking the one year plan, vs the actual s17.

To get the 56 TH, you have to buy plans worth 2166$, a brand new s17 is 2300$. So you get the same hashing power 144$ cheaper but only for one year, once the year has passed if you manage to sell the gear for more than 144$ you're better with buying the miner.

Second, the admin fee, it's 0.13$ per Th.
For 56th it's 7.28 $ a day.
Running in your house, an S17 would burn 7.26$ if you have a 12cents /kw.

Almost any datacenter in the world would offer you better deals than this.

Bottom line, this is probably a one-man shady business that is run from some apartment in Moscow trying to lure noobs into their scheme.



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July 10, 2019, 09:53:30 AM
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Avito is a russian marketplace. You do not understand anything at all. Neither in the names nor in the screenshots. It's funny to watch you really.
I do not understand you and where Avito? It has nothing to do with this EOS platform.
On Avito sell goods, including ASICs. Perhaps the developer bought this product and simply copied the photos from there, so as not to take pictures himself.

Dear Bellicose,

yes, Avito is a platform for selling goods, including ASICs. And ECOS is selling ASICs there, as sale of equipment is one of our businesses Smiley
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July 10, 2019, 03:32:21 PM
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First, I never said that somebody else is selling those miners, I was asking why are they selling when they never mentioned it, and for a cloud mining company it's a bit contra productive to sell miners, especially in those times when mining profits are up and mining gear supply is down.


But let's break it down

a) They claimed they are an official distributor when called out they turned the official thing into good relation...that's bs

b) As soon as there was a problem with the identity of a team member, that member was instantly laid off, we can call that shady
There is no problem with identity of our team members. As we said earlier all members of the team on the pictures are current ECOS members, except for Evgeny Gurvich, who used to be a team member, but resigned some time ago. 


c) For such business who claims to have all kind of connections and members all over the world, it's again a bad sign that they aren't able to provide more than 3 pictures and a crappy 160p 10 seconds movie of their so-called "operation"
To get our latest pictures and videos please make sure to follow us on Instagram @ecos_am


d) until discovered they never claimed to be a reseller or a distributor, but once caught selling gear on a Craig list lookalike site ...they start another what I believe to be a lie.
The thread on this forum is dedicated to ECOS Cloud Mining project, which is one of our business streams. So here we were focused on mining stream only.


e) the actual advantages of their cloud model for customers is another big piece of lie...

Let's do a bit of math for this, taking the one year plan, vs the actual s17.

To get the 56 TH, you have to buy plans worth 2166$, a brand new s17 is 2300$. So you get the same hashing power 144$ cheaper but only for one year, once the year has passed if you manage to sell the gear for more than 144$ you're better with buying the miner.

Second, the admin fee, it's 0.13$ per Th.
For 56th it's 7.28 $ a day.
Running in your house, an S17 would burn 7.26$ if you have a 12cents /kw.

Almost any datacenter in the world would offer you better deals than this.
The point is that the real retail price of S17 in the market with immediate delivery today is between $5000 to $6000 now.
Bitmain is offering S17s at 2770 USD with delivery in December. But to get them you need to have good purchase history, as we do which is really hard for a retail end user.
So in theory this exists but in real life - no!

Second problem is to find a proper "white" hosting provider, the same story, in theory they exist, but in real life we did a dozen of audits of documents from hosting providers and we know that there are very few of those who can sell you services with legitimate energy supply and price is much higher when you pay taxes as we do.

And for the safety and security we are strongly investing to own infrastructure, both on the Legal side we have a Free Economic Zone, so we are sure that we have a legitimate tax exemptions and for the infrastructure we have invested so far to build our own mining facility next to the Power Station and concluded with them a long term contracts for the energy supply. 

And even more, we have a VERY HOT news to deliver about launch of a big scale mining infrastructure, but as for now it’s a secret, we will do a press release very soon Wink
 
Bottom line, this is probably a one-man shady business that is run from some apartment in Moscow trying to lure noobs into their scheme.
As for our office and employees - you can have a look at our new video about ECOS on Instagram @ecos_am. 



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July 10, 2019, 06:20:01 PM
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As I understood in recent days, you sell your equipment on such products where there are free advertisements. I would like to know how equipment sales are progressing there.
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July 10, 2019, 06:45:31 PM
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As I understood in recent days, you sell your equipment on such products where there are free advertisements. I would like to know how equipment sales are progressing there.
Yes that's right. The project is selling equipment on these platforms. And I will tell you that this is absolutely normal. Most of the projects also come in and promote their products on E-Bay
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July 10, 2019, 10:11:01 PM
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Dear Veekky,

we have invested into the project - bought equipment (Antminers S11s and S17s, which are not cheap as you know) so now we are providing this equipment for rent, share the mining capacities with users, thus allowing all of us to earn money from the crypto market.
ok, now I realised point of cloud mining, it is the same as I thought. Am I right that people with small budget can earn with cloud mining because they don't need expensive equipment and waste time for maintenance?

Dear veekky,

yes, exactly, you can try cloud mining even if you have limited budget (our contracts start from 20 USD for 180 days, 39 USD for 365 days and 78 USD for 720 days for 1 TH power) and you don't need to waste your time and money on fixing your equipment and to pay for electricity.
Ok, maybe I will try it. What is about expected ROI? Can you guarantee fixed %? What if bitcoin drops or something unpredictable happens?
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July 11, 2019, 05:34:42 AM
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Avito is a russian marketplace. You do not understand anything at all. Neither in the names nor in the screenshots. It's funny to watch you really.
I do not understand you and where Avito? It has nothing to do with this EOS platform.

Dear Dolcevita99,

Avito is a marketplace like Amazon.com, Ebay.com, craigslist.org and so on - a place where people and companies can sell their goods.
ECOS is selling its equipment on this platform, that's it Smiley


I understand now. At first I could not understand, but when I saw that you were selling your equipment there, now I know why there were so many questions about Avito.
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July 11, 2019, 10:19:27 AM
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Dear Veekky,

we have invested into the project - bought equipment (Antminers S11s and S17s, which are not cheap as you know) so now we are providing this equipment for rent, share the mining capacities with users, thus allowing all of us to earn money from the crypto market.
ok, now I realised point of cloud mining, it is the same as I thought. Am I right that people with small budget can earn with cloud mining because they don't need expensive equipment and waste time for maintenance?

Dear veekky,

yes, exactly, you can try cloud mining even if you have limited budget (our contracts start from 20 USD for 180 days, 39 USD for 365 days and 78 USD for 720 days for 1 TH power) and you don't need to waste your time and money on fixing your equipment and to pay for electricity.
Ok, maybe I will try it. What is about expected ROI? Can you guarantee fixed %? What if bitcoin drops or something unpredictable happens?

Dear Veekky,

Our expected ROI at current exchange rate and difficulty is above 100%. If Bitcoin grows it will be even higher.
But noone can guarantee any fixed %.
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July 11, 2019, 10:21:58 AM
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As I understood in recent days, you sell your equipment on such products where there are free advertisements. I would like to know how equipment sales are progressing there.

Dear Coinbitcoin91,

these platfors are not free unfortunately Smiley
We do sell some equipment from that platform, but we use some other sources as well.
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July 11, 2019, 10:40:20 AM
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What do you think about other cloud mining companies? Do you have some competitors you won't to beat on this market?
Just search Google or here on the forum. There are plenty of such companies and they all compete with each other and try to create more bonuses for users.

Dear GromovSer,

yes, there are competitors in the market. You can try several services with min contracts and compare how they all make payouts. Then select the one you like most and invest more into particular service.  Wink
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July 11, 2019, 11:26:12 AM
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I suppose he preferred to pursue the career of musician, but leaving that aside, the biggest point here and that you are not cooperating is:

- show your mining farm ( you should record a video that shows your mining farm with the mining equipment in full operation )

I see that yesterday (July 10) you posted this video on instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzvMTmogR9f/

But this video does not show your mining farm


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- show your mining farm ( you should record a video that shows your mining farm with the mining equipment in full operation )
As for the videos of the datacenter and the team - we will provide you with them soon Smiley
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and still nothing to back up that bitmain partnership claim either.

theres nothing here. message me if you want to put something here.
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July 11, 2019, 05:35:42 PM
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- show your mining farm ( you should record a video that shows your mining farm with the mining equipment in full operation )
As for the videos of the datacenter and the team - we will provide you with them soon Smiley
'soon'  Roll Eyes

and still nothing to back up that bitmain partnership claim either.
Perhaps other users can tell what other partners will be in this cloud mining. It is worth reading and revising all other similar projects.
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July 11, 2019, 09:41:25 PM
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Thank you for letting me know what cloud mining is. Now it is clear for me that it is less stressful to invest money and let experienced people to deal with my investment in a right way. Yeah, I would gain less compared to running own mining farm, but at the same time i don't want to waste my time and efforts on it and I am ready to cooperate with someone like you

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July 12, 2019, 08:42:00 AM
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Thank you for letting me know what cloud mining is. Now it is clear for me that it is less stressful to invest money and let experienced people to deal with my investment in a right way. Yeah, I would gain less compared to running own mining farm, but at the same time i don't want to waste my time and efforts on it and I am ready to cooperate with someone like you

Dear ^BuTcH^,

great, then welcome to ECOS!  Smiley
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July 12, 2019, 09:25:00 AM
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How many customers do you have at the moment?

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