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June 30, 2019, 03:05:42 PM
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Your plans and idea is good and I think the team still currently focus on working to improve sites and I think they are successful because the sites is already better & good.

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June 30, 2019, 03:11:08 PM
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Your plans and idea is good and I think the team still currently focus on working to improve sites and I think they are successful because the sites is already better & good.
Which part of them you mean succesful and already better & good? So you mean their site was bad?
Anyway, i just want to give my opinion about your max winning amount, it's really too low, if a gambler lose more than your max winning, he can't win his losses back in 1 bet
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July 01, 2019, 06:42:34 AM
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Combine roulette and dice actually something new for me and i had try it use the faucet and there is no lagged during use your site everything went to smooth however i had recently reading the FAQ and this is interesting because the amount to withdraw and the fees is quite low compare to other casinos approximately 1000 satoshi but the withdrawal fee higher than it 3000 satoshi for every transactions

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July 02, 2019, 05:17:13 AM
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The website looks very nice and is not stuffed up like some would do. But it seems like you don’t have much players yet, cause I checked the today’s All bets list on the website and what I’m seeing is just one person that has been playing and the last play was around 11:49 or so, which is like over two hours now. You need to be promoting the website and also giving out some free offers to attract people to play with it. Cause if you’re just going to post it here and forget about it, then the site is as good as dead. Try to promote it, treat it as a business if you want it to be one. By the time you reach a certain level, you wouldn’t need to do much of the promo work anymore.
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July 02, 2019, 05:44:05 AM
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I checked this site out and was surprised that it looks pretty decent. A few things in your main post where you have the url "http://...." change it to "https://..." so it goes to the SSL.

I've tried it out on mobile and was pretty easy to navigate. However it took me a while to find the faucet first, maybe make a direct link somewhere to the faucet. Basically for anyone that can't find it on mobile, just tap on your balance and click the 3rd button from the left, basically the hand holding the BTC.

Also I don't know if this was intentional or not but when you tap "PLAY!" you see the 3 dice rotating and it takes like 5 seconds to get the bet to actually process. Its fine at first but after a few hundreds of bets people won't like the delay, maybe make the delay 1 second instead to prevent any bots.

Either way good luck.
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July 02, 2019, 06:22:33 AM
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Also I don't know if this was intentional or not but when you tap "PLAY!" you see the 3 dice rotating and it takes like 5 seconds to get the bet to actually process. Its fine at first but after a few hundreds of bets people won't like the delay, maybe make the delay 1 second instead to prevent any bots.

The delay is the effect of the animation, so probably adding an option to disable the animation will be better so players can choose whether to see the animation or not when playing. Just like in other sites that has an animation on their game but they have an option to disable the animation so players are getting instant bet.

I've tried it out on mobile and was pretty easy to navigate. However it took me a while to find the faucet first, maybe make a direct link somewhere to the faucet. Basically for anyone that can't find it on mobile, just tap on your balance and click the 3rd button from the left, basically the hand holding the BTC.

I have to agree with this one, faucet is like located in a hidden place so move it to (maybe) the next to balance without clicking the account tab is better.

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July 02, 2019, 01:18:00 PM
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Actually for this time when you tried to open some new site, you should really consider about the bankroll here. It seems like you do not care about players here by giving out so little amount of money for your bankroll. People really like to play on new site but to think of that they can only make a small bet here and have the potential to lose away big money here will never benefit them. Betting 1 btc can only win 0.001 but you can lose 1 btc. This is pretty ridiculous thing. Try to get more bankroll in the mean time, open investment will be the best one

Indeed, we're aware that our bankroll is quite small, we're hoping to able to increase it via investors. Smiley (Still needs to be implemented though)

Your plans and idea is good and I think the team still currently focus on working to improve sites and I think they are successful because the sites is already better & good.

Thanks for the kind words.
We're giving our best to improve throughout all times. Wink

Which part of them you mean succesful and already better & good? So you mean their site was bad?
Anyway, i just want to give my opinion about your max winning amount, it's really too low, if a gambler lose more than your max winning, he can't win his losses back in 1 bet

A hard cap limit will be implemented soon, you won't be able to bet more than we can pay once you win. Smiley

Combine roulette and dice actually something new for me and i had try it use the faucet and there is no lagged during use your site everything went to smooth however i had recently reading the FAQ and this is interesting because the amount to withdraw and the fees is quite low compare to other casinos approximately 1000 satoshi but the withdrawal fee higher than it 3000 satoshi for every transactions

Thanks for the kind words bering. Smiley
The withdraw fee will be adjusted in near future.
I'm a fan of "keeping fees low" in order to keep the fees in general low, but I'm still looking for the best median to use. Smiley
Chances are good that the fees will be lowered quite a bit.

The website looks very nice and is not stuffed up like some would do. But it seems like you don’t have much players yet, cause I checked the today’s All bets list on the website and what I’m seeing is just one person that has been playing and the last play was around 11:49 or so, which is like over two hours now. You need to be promoting the website and also giving out some free offers to attract people to play with it. Cause if you’re just going to post it here and forget about it, then the site is as good as dead. Try to promote it, treat it as a business if you want it to be one. By the time you reach a certain level, you wouldn’t need to do much of the promo work anymore.

You're right, we're still missing traffic and players in general - we're currently planning an affiliate and investment-system in order to boost our bankroll and traffic in the future. Smiley
Attracting new players and increasing our bankroll is definitely in our focus. Smiley

I checked this site out and was surprised that it looks pretty decent. A few things in your main post where you have the url "http://...." change it to "https://..." so it goes to the SSL.

I've tried it out on mobile and was pretty easy to navigate. However it took me a while to find the faucet first, maybe make a direct link somewhere to the faucet. Basically for anyone that can't find it on mobile, just tap on your balance and click the 3rd button from the left, basically the hand holding the BTC.

Also I don't know if this was intentional or not but when you tap "PLAY!" you see the 3 dice rotating and it takes like 5 seconds to get the bet to actually process. Its fine at first but after a few hundreds of bets people won't like the delay, maybe make the delay 1 second instead to prevent any bots.

Either way good luck.

Thanks for the hint, I will change it. Smiley
There will follow quite a few updates regarding mobile presentation, there are still a few points we're unhappy with. Wink

You can disable the dice animation on the settings (gear button), it should be faster then - tell me what you think about it. Smiley

The delay is the effect of the animation, so probably adding an option to disable the animation will be better so players can choose whether to see the animation or not when playing. Just like in other sites that has an animation on their game but they have an option to disable the animation so players are getting instant bet.

I have to agree with this one, faucet is like located in a hidden place so move it to (maybe) the next to balance without clicking the account tab is better.

There already is an option to disable the animations, check out the "Settings" button (Gear icon). Let me know what you think about it. Smiley

Since we got this feedback a few times already we're planning in moving the faucet/withdraw/deposit/transactions buttons to a more visible place.
Stay tuned. Smiley
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July 02, 2019, 04:19:47 PM
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Quite some features you offer there hope living up to the hype would not pose a difficulty to the team.
In as much as am not impressed with the built up of the site I am interested in some of the features and think they are quite innovative especially the chat room for different language just hope it's not just filled with bots profiles.
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July 03, 2019, 10:34:24 AM
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Hm. Still no provably fair algorithm. Very disappointing and shady. How hard is it to copy code that you already have and paste it here or on the site?

I would be careful with this site - it is basically not provably fair.
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July 04, 2019, 06:00:04 AM
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Hm. Still no provably fair algorithm. Very disappointing and shady. How hard is it to copy code that you already have and paste it here or on the site?

I would be careful with this site - it is basically not provably fair.

From what I can see, it does use provably fair. Go to the main page, look in the lower panel and click the first link which says Fairness, you will see you are given a Client Seed and a hashed Server seed. You are given the option of changing the client seed, so its definitely provably fair.

I haven't gone thru the manual calculation and testing if the actual seed works but I would assume so. My guess is the site is hard to navigate for some people, especially on mobile so maybe you had trouble locating this but its definately there.

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July 04, 2019, 07:03:01 AM
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I checked this site out and was surprised that it looks pretty decent. A few things in your main post where you have the url "http://...." change it to "https://..." so it goes to the SSL.

I've tried it out on mobile and was pretty easy to navigate. However it took me a while to find the faucet first, maybe make a direct link somewhere to the faucet. Basically for anyone that can't find it on mobile, just tap on your balance and click the 3rd button from the left, basically the hand holding the BTC.

Also I don't know if this was intentional or not but when you tap "PLAY!" you see the 3 dice rotating and it takes like 5 seconds to get the bet to actually process. Its fine at first but after a few hundreds of bets people won't like the delay, maybe make the delay 1 second instead to prevent any bots.

Either way good luck.

Yes I think that was intentional and a lot of newer dice sites are trying to differentiate from the others in terms of their animations. Some try for cooler looks, others go for realism,,, but like you said, in the end, dice players like their dice to be fast as possible. This is actually the main factor for dicers because they mainly, like me, go for martingale so they need thousands of rolls to happen asap.

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July 04, 2019, 09:01:50 AM
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From what I can see, it does use provably fair. Go to the main page, look in the lower panel and click the first link which says Fairness, you will see you are given a Client Seed and a hashed Server seed. You are given the option of changing the client seed, so its definitely provably fair.

I haven't gone thru the manual calculation and testing if the actual seed works but I would assume so. My guess is the site is hard to navigate for some people, especially on mobile so maybe you had trouble locating this but its definately there.
Disappointing to see some people jump to conclusions without even checking everything properly. yoloer basically presumed this is a scam since he did not bother scanning the entire page thoroughly giving the wrong impressions to people.

Not every site is a scam and people need to be careful before expressing themselves since this could affect the site in a small or big way. It is good to see that a faucet is available now on the site and the op is listening to our feedback.

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July 04, 2019, 12:40:13 PM
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Hm. Still no provably fair algorithm. Very disappointing and shady. How hard is it to copy code that you already have and paste it here or on the site?

I would be careful with this site - it is basically not provably fair.

Sorry for taking longer than you expected.
Since our team only consists of my partner and me our time can be quite limited - we're both working as web dev's and run a family too. Smiley
We'll implement the sourcecode for sure, please stay tuned.  Smiley

From what I can see, it does use provably fair. Go to the main page, look in the lower panel and click the first link which says Fairness, you will see you are given a Client Seed and a hashed Server seed. You are given the option of changing the client seed, so its definitely provably fair.

I haven't gone thru the manual calculation and testing if the actual seed works but I would assume so. My guess is the site is hard to navigate for some people, especially on mobile so maybe you had trouble locating this but its definately there.

We're definitely provably fair, but yoloer808 has a fair point - since we're currently not distributing our game code people are not able to recalculate the games themselves.
This indeed is a huge problem but I will take care of it as soon as I get back on the code. Smiley
Please check back and you'll find the required sourcecode soon Smiley

Yes I think that was intentional and a lot of newer dice sites are trying to differentiate from the others in terms of their animations. Some try for cooler looks, others go for realism,,, but like you said, in the end, dice players like their dice to be fast as possible. This is actually the main factor for dicers because they mainly, like me, go for martingale so they need thousands of rolls to happen asap.


Have you tried out disabling the animations under the "Settings" tab? Smiley
I have currently limited the requests to 1/sec in order to prevent flooding.
Let me know what you think about it. Smiley

Disappointing to see some people jump to conclusions without even checking everything properly. yoloer basically presumed this is a scam since he did not bother scanning the entire page thoroughly giving the wrong impressions to people.

Not every site is a scam and people need to be careful before expressing themselves since this could affect the site in a small or big way. It is good to see that a faucet is available now on the site and the op is listening to our feedback.

Thanks for keeping my reputation clean, I'm giving my best to communicate everything we're doing/planning on this thread so people know what's going on. Smiley
We're definitely not aiming to scam anyone, we're hoping to establish our own business instead of working as hired web dev's. Wink

With the time the changes will come, hopefully people stay tuned to witness them. Smiley
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July 04, 2019, 01:44:05 PM
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From what I can see, it does use provably fair. Go to the main page, look in the lower panel and click the first link which says Fairness, you will see you are given a Client Seed and a hashed Server seed. You are given the option of changing the client seed, so its definitely provably fair.

I haven't gone thru the manual calculation and testing if the actual seed works but I would assume so. My guess is the site is hard to navigate for some people, especially on mobile so maybe you had trouble locating this but its definately there.
Disappointing to see some people jump to conclusions without even checking everything properly. yoloer basically presumed this is a scam since he did not bother scanning the entire page thoroughly giving the wrong impressions to people.

Not every site is a scam and people need to be careful before expressing themselves since this could affect the site in a small or big way. It is good to see that a faucet is available now on the site and the op is listening to our feedback.

Judging without checking is not a good review specially for a new online casino in the gambling industry personaly when checking their website I'm shocked for seeing their good design if the team maintaining this platform plus good marketing strategy this will bring more player for short period of time.

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July 04, 2019, 04:43:49 PM
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Judging without checking is not a good review specially for a new online casino in the gambling industry personaly when checking their website I'm shocked for seeing their good design if the team maintaining this platform plus good marketing strategy this will bring more player for short period of time.

Thanks for your kind words dark08 Smiley
We will give our best to improve throughout all times!
The feedback from you guys is really important for us and lays the path for our future. Smiley
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July 04, 2019, 07:35:09 PM
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Thanks for keeping my reputation clean, I'm giving my best to communicate everything we're doing/planning on this thread so people know what's going on. Smiley
We're definitely not aiming to scam anyone, we're hoping to establish our own business instead of working as hired web dev's. Wink

With the time the changes will come, hopefully people stay tuned to witness them. Smiley
Skepticism is what preserves money.

It doesn't matter how good the product is, if it's not provably fair then you're at the whim of the owners. You have to trust that they aren't screwing you over... that's not a good precedent to set. After all, history repeats itself and we have plenty of examples in the past. Smiley
Hoping to see these changes ASAP. I would say, without a doubt, no crypto-based casino should operate without first establishing guaranteed fairness.

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July 05, 2019, 11:45:34 AM
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From what I can see, it does use provably fair. Go to the main page, look in the lower panel and click the first link which says Fairness, you will see you are given a Client Seed and a hashed Server seed. You are given the option of changing the client seed, so its definitely provably fair.

I haven't gone thru the manual calculation and testing if the actual seed works but I would assume so. My guess is the site is hard to navigate for some people, especially on mobile so maybe you had trouble locating this but its definately there.
Disappointing to see some people jump to conclusions without even checking everything properly. yoloer basically presumed this is a scam since he did not bother scanning the entire page thoroughly giving the wrong impressions to people.

Not every site is a scam and people need to be careful before expressing themselves since this could affect the site in a small or big way. It is good to see that a faucet is available now on the site and the op is listening to our feedback.

Judging without checking is not a good review specially for a new online casino in the gambling industry personaly when checking their website I'm shocked for seeing their good design if the team maintaining this platform plus good marketing strategy this will bring more player for short period of time.

actually design is kinda lacking IMHO  Cheesy , but its a decent start
as for the fairness I see it under Fairness tab at the bottom of the page
oh and one of the design drawbacks - the links are pop up , cannot link it directly , but here it is:


I didn't  check if the implementation is correct and legit , but it does seem so at the first glance
and yes , no crypto gambling site should bother launching without being provably fair , this is not 2010 and gamblers are pretty literate in this matter


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July 06, 2019, 05:36:49 AM
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From what I can see, it does use provably fair. Go to the main page, look in the lower panel and click the first link which says Fairness, you will see you are given a Client Seed and a hashed Server seed. You are given the option of changing the client seed, so its definitely provably fair.

I haven't gone thru the manual calculation and testing if the actual seed works but I would assume so. My guess is the site is hard to navigate for some people, especially on mobile so maybe you had trouble locating this but its definately there.
Disappointing to see some people jump to conclusions without even checking everything properly. yoloer basically presumed this is a scam since he did not bother scanning the entire page thoroughly giving the wrong impressions to people.

Not every site is a scam and people need to be careful before expressing themselves since this could affect the site in a small or big way. It is good to see that a faucet is available now on the site and the op is listening to our feedback.

Judging without checking is not a good review specially for a new online casino in the gambling industry personaly when checking their website I'm shocked for seeing their good design if the team maintaining this platform plus good marketing strategy this will bring more player for short period of time.

actually design is kinda lacking IMHO  Cheesy , but its a decent start
as for the fairness I see it under Fairness tab at the bottom of the page
oh and one of the design drawbacks - the links are pop up , cannot link it directly , but here it is:


I didn't  check if the implementation is correct and legit , but it does seem so at the first glance
and yes , no crypto gambling site should bother launching without being provably fair , this is not 2010 and gamblers are pretty literate in this matter



OP already said that he does not have the code right now to implement it currently so we can just sit back and watch this thread because there is really much more to implement on this site, including some active investment to make sure people can make some huge bet towards the game. To think that many of not yet implemented then it will takes time to provide every gambler wants so please keep on supporting them
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July 31, 2019, 06:12:06 PM
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Scam site? can't do withdraw, Deposit has 4 confirmations https://imgur.com/JKiDSWR
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July 31, 2019, 10:13:09 PM
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Scam site? can't do withdraw, Deposit has 4 confirmations https://imgur.com/JKiDSWR
Its clear that you are tending to withdraw an amount which is higher with your current balance.Try to adjust it up deducting also that network fee.Just have a time to read up instructions for it to go through.

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