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July 31, 2019, 10:51:09 PM
Last edit: August 01, 2019, 01:13:48 AM by mihakyr
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Scam site? can't do withdraw, Deposit has 4 confirmations https://imgur.com/JKiDSWR
Its clear that you are tending to withdraw an amount which is higher with your current balance.Try to adjust it up deducting also that network fee.Just have a time to read up instructions for it to go through.

I tried to withdraw the minimum amount, but nothing positive came out of it. constantly gives the same error.
proff: https://imgur.com/16qvhVy
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August 01, 2019, 01:50:45 PM
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Scam site? can't do withdraw, Deposit has 4 confirmations https://imgur.com/JKiDSWR
Its clear that you are tending to withdraw an amount which is higher with your current balance.Try to adjust it up deducting also that network fee.Just have a time to read up instructions for it to go through.

I tried to withdraw the minimum amount, but nothing positive came out of it. constantly gives the same error.
proff: https://imgur.com/16qvhVy

You have 13k satoshi on your balance and you tried to withdraw 10k satoshi but failed because the system says that you try to withdraw higher amount than your balance so I guess there must be something wrong with the withdrawal system. You can try to contact the site's representative about this issue or you can use the contact support available on the site, I don't think the site will scam you for that small amount of money.
I just checked the site again, it seems that the faucet is gone. Previously I could find the faucet under the Account tab but now it is missing, is it moved to other place or it is indeed being removed for a reason?

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August 01, 2019, 02:55:42 PM
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You have 13k satoshi on your balance and you tried to withdraw 10k satoshi but failed because the system says that you try to withdraw higher amount than your balance so I guess there must be something wrong with the withdrawal system. You can try to contact the site's representative about this issue or you can use the contact support available on the site, I don't think the site will scam you for that small amount of money.
Do you think of potential cause from transaction fees/ withdrawal fees? If total balance is 13k satoshis, and that guy want to withdraw 10k satoshis; what if withdrawal fees (required by the site and by bitcoin network) exceed 3k satoshis. For example, with withdrawal fees are 4k satoshis; after subtracting it, total available balance for withdrawal will drop to 9k satoshis (not 10k satoshis, as that guy imagined). I do not know real reasons (who knows), but I guess it is the highest possible reason.

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August 01, 2019, 03:34:33 PM
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I hope this new gambling site will be competitive and do a more improvements . Anyway what I really like to Saikoro is the mobile friendly because I play sometimes to my mobile phones  and I encountered in the other gambling site are log hope this site will works for me smoothly and alsp the chat room who have different languages so they can talk to their own language.
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August 01, 2019, 04:28:00 PM
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Scam site? can't do withdraw, Deposit has 4 confirmations https://imgur.com/JKiDSWR
Its clear that you are tending to withdraw an amount which is higher with your current balance.Try to adjust it up deducting also that network fee.Just have a time to read up instructions for it to go through.

I tried to withdraw the minimum amount, but nothing positive came out of it. constantly gives the same error.
proff: https://imgur.com/16qvhVy
Try to set this up.

Total amount on your wallet = adjusted amount for withdawal + network fees required.

If this one doesnt work then they do have problems with their withdrawal system.

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August 01, 2019, 04:51:31 PM
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You have 13k satoshi on your balance and you tried to withdraw 10k satoshi but failed because the system says that you try to withdraw higher amount than your balance so I guess there must be something wrong with the withdrawal system. You can try to contact the site's representative about this issue or you can use the contact support available on the site, I don't think the site will scam you for that small amount of money.
Do you think of potential cause from transaction fees/ withdrawal fees? If total balance is 13k satoshis, and that guy want to withdraw 10k satoshis; what if withdrawal fees (required by the site and by bitcoin network) exceed 3k satoshis. For example, with withdrawal fees are 4k satoshis; after subtracting it, total available balance for withdrawal will drop to 9k satoshis (not 10k satoshis, as that guy imagined). I do not know real reasons (who knows), but I guess it is the highest possible reason.

Once a site set a fixed withdrawal fees, logically it wont exceed to higher amount. In this case, the site charge 3000 satoshi so players wont be charged more than that although the bitcoin network requires higher fee. I have never experienced such exceeding withdrawal in many sites. Exceeding withdrawal fees happens on site without fixed fee only IMO, so the fee is always changing based on the latest bitcoin network. So it is not reasonable if the site has fixed 3000 satoshi but it charges more than that.

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August 01, 2019, 06:14:03 PM
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I'm pleased with the site outlook, it has a classic look and the dark colours are not interfering too much with the gaming visual and because of the choice of colour scheme it gives you the feeling of a combination of Roulette and Dice which I think works well.

I haven't tried out the games yet mainly because of the faucet not being available as I usually like to test the waters first, maybe this is something you can consider as feedback.





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August 01, 2019, 08:42:38 PM
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I'm pleased with the site outlook, it has a classic look and the dark colours are not interfering too much with the gaming visual and because of the choice of colour scheme it gives you the feeling of a combination of Roulette and Dice which I think works well.

I haven't tried out the games yet mainly because of the faucet not being available as I usually like to test the waters first, maybe this is something you can consider as feedback.


Yes, the dev of this site should at least provide a faucet where a potential player can use to test the features of their gambling site. He can give at least enough for testing and playing so players can get the feel of using your site.
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August 01, 2019, 09:15:51 PM
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Here are the list of possibilities, all bad.

1) Withdrawal system does not work. Very bad.
2) Withdrawal system was not tested and has bugs. Very bad.
3) Bitcoin balance is less than the requested withdrawal amount. Very bad.
Unless we have a better reason for these failures? Roll Eyes

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August 02, 2019, 01:02:34 PM
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Scam site? can't do withdraw, Deposit has 4 confirmations https://imgur.com/JKiDSWR
Its clear that you are tending to withdraw an amount which is higher with your current balance.Try to adjust it up deducting also that network fee.Just have a time to read up instructions for it to go through.

I tried to withdraw the minimum amount, but nothing positive came out of it. constantly gives the same error.
proff: https://imgur.com/16qvhVy

You have 13k satoshi on your balance and you tried to withdraw 10k satoshi but failed because the system says that you try to withdraw higher amount than your balance so I guess there must be something wrong with the withdrawal system. You can try to contact the site's representative about this issue or you can use the contact support available on the site, I don't think the site will scam you for that small amount of money.
I just checked the site again, it seems that the faucet is gone. Previously I could find the faucet under the Account tab but now it is missing, is it moved to other place or it is indeed being removed for a reason?

First of all I want to apoligize for any inconvinience, we didn't have too much time lately that's why everything felt a bit freezed.
Don't worry about your balance, we won't scam anyone, our reputation is really important to us. Smiley
The error were receiving shouldn't occur in your case, we were doing some backend work over the last days so there is a chance that you had bad timing but I will check out the logs to find the exact problem.
If you're still having problems withdrawing your balance let me know and I'll manually send you your funds. Smiley



You have 13k satoshi on your balance and you tried to withdraw 10k satoshi but failed because the system says that you try to withdraw higher amount than your balance so I guess there must be something wrong with the withdrawal system. You can try to contact the site's representative about this issue or you can use the contact support available on the site, I don't think the site will scam you for that small amount of money.
Do you think of potential cause from transaction fees/ withdrawal fees? If total balance is 13k satoshis, and that guy want to withdraw 10k satoshis; what if withdrawal fees (required by the site and by bitcoin network) exceed 3k satoshis. For example, with withdrawal fees are 4k satoshis; after subtracting it, total available balance for withdrawal will drop to 9k satoshis (not 10k satoshis, as that guy imagined). I do not know real reasons (who knows), but I guess it is the highest possible reason.

The current transactions fee of 3000 satoshi is hardcoded, if in any case the transaction fee is higher than 3k we're paying the missing amount from our bank.
In any case you own 13k and withdraw 10k you should end up with 0.



I hope this new gambling site will be competitive and do a more improvements . Anyway what I really like to Saikoro is the mobile friendly because I play sometimes to my mobile phones  and I encountered in the other gambling site are log hope this site will works for me smoothly and alsp the chat room who have different languages so they can talk to their own language.

We're aiming to improve all the time, currently the only bottleneck is the time available. Smiley
I'm glad you like our mobile distribution of the game, check back from time to time as we just added some major changes on the layout and gaming experience. Smiley



Once a site set a fixed withdrawal fees, logically it wont exceed to higher amount. In this case, the site charge 3000 satoshi so players wont be charged more than that although the bitcoin network requires higher fee. I have never experienced such exceeding withdrawal in many sites. Exceeding withdrawal fees happens on site without fixed fee only IMO, so the fee is always changing based on the latest bitcoin network. So it is not reasonable if the site has fixed 3000 satoshi but it charges more than that.

panjul07 is right, this is exactly the way it's working. Smiley
If you had any issues feel free to direct contact me!



I'm pleased with the site outlook, it has a classic look and the dark colours are not interfering too much with the gaming visual and because of the choice of colour scheme it gives you the feeling of a combination of Roulette and Dice which I think works well.

I haven't tried out the games yet mainly because of the faucet not being available as I usually like to test the waters first, maybe this is something you can consider as feedback.


Thanks for the kind words, we're glad you like the design. Smiley
A faucet is available and always will be, simple click on your balance and a menu containing the faucet will open. Smiley



Yes, the dev of this site should at least provide a faucet where a potential player can use to test the features of their gambling site. He can give at least enough for testing and playing so players can get the feel of using your site.

Try clicking on your balance to open up a menu containing the faucet. Smiley
Since many players are experiencing problems finding the faucet we're planning in moving it somewhere else - I'll let you guys know when any changes are happening. Smiley



Here are the list of possibilities, all bad.

1) Withdrawal system does not work. Very bad.
2) Withdrawal system was not tested and has bugs. Very bad.
3) Bitcoin balance is less than the requested withdrawal amount. Very bad.
Unless we have a better reason for these failures? Roll Eyes

The withdrawal system was intensively tested and should work fine, I haven't checked the logs so sadly I can't say anything concrete at the moment but I will let you guys know what the problem was. Smiley
This indeed was a behaviour that wasn't expected.
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August 03, 2019, 01:55:30 AM
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fix the conclusion, it is unrealistic https://imgur.com/MBh4jgO
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August 06, 2019, 01:51:05 AM
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The current transactions fee of 3000 satoshi is hardcoded, if in any case the transaction fee is higher than 3k we're paying the missing amount from our bank.
In any case you own 13k and withdraw 10k you should end up with 0.
Hardcoded means that 3000 satoshis is a fixed transaction fees, no matter what amount of withdrawals. If in cases, users require withdrawals that have more than 3000 satoshis in fees on network, the site will pay for the rest fees as kind of supports for users on the platform. Do I understand your clarification correctly?

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August 06, 2019, 01:07:06 PM
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fix the conclusion, it is unrealistic https://imgur.com/MBh4jgO

I will take care about this, please give me a little more time as some inventive guy actually found a flaw which needs to be fixed first of all. Smiley
I won't forget about this. Wink

The current transactions fee of 3000 satoshi is hardcoded, if in any case the transaction fee is higher than 3k we're paying the missing amount from our bank.
In any case you own 13k and withdraw 10k you should end up with 0.
Hardcoded means that 3000 satoshis is a fixed transaction fees, no matter what amount of withdrawals. If in cases, users require withdrawals that have more than 3000 satoshis in fees on network, the site will pay for the rest fees as kind of supports for users on the platform. Do I understand your clarification correctly?

Correctly.
Currently you'll always pay 3000 satoshi on any withdrawal, no matter what amount you're withdrawing. Smiley
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August 06, 2019, 01:58:29 PM
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https://imgur.com/vMnsx55
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August 06, 2019, 03:17:12 PM
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https://imgur.com/vMnsx55
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OP has replied to your previous post and I think he or maybe his team is working to fix it now, indeed waiting is something annoying but that's all you can do now. Wait till OP post to confirm that issue is fixed then you can try to withdraw your money, keep trying when OP is not confirming that it is fixed already then high likely you'll get the same.

The current transactions fee of 3000 satoshi is hardcoded, if in any case the transaction fee is higher than 3k we're paying the missing amount from our bank.
In any case you own 13k and withdraw 10k you should end up with 0.
Hardcoded means that 3000 satoshis is a fixed transaction fees, no matter what amount of withdrawals. If in cases, users require withdrawals that have more than 3000 satoshis in fees on network, the site will pay for the rest fees as kind of supports for users on the platform. Do I understand your clarification correctly?

I think I have explained to you clearly but yes it seems that you understand it better now. Actually it is simple thing as most bitcoin related sites has the same fixed withdrawal fee system. It makes me wonder, how many times you have made withdrawal from bitcoin related sites?

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Last edit: August 08, 2019, 09:05:46 PM by Saikorotable
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https://imgur.com/vMnsx55
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Edit: I checked the withdrawal and couldn't notice any unusual activity.
What is your username?

https://imgur.com/2FYWfde

https://imgur.com/vMnsx55
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OP has replied to your previous post and I think he or maybe his team is working to fix it now, indeed waiting is something annoying but that's all you can do now. Wait till OP post to confirm that issue is fixed then you can try to withdraw your money, keep trying when OP is not confirming that it is fixed already then high likely you'll get the same.

We're sorry about the time this currently takes.
Our bankroll attracted a few people pushing the limits, this helped us finding flaws but delayed our actual plans.  Roll Eyes
In order to gain more control of this we're improving a lot of our backend.

My partner has made some neat frontend updates though, feel free to check out the new UI on mobile - you're now able to play anywhere on the website  Cheesy
He also fixed the popup height problem and now displays the deposit address as a whole as some people didn't get the cropping of the textbox.  Wink

Edit: I also fixed a minor bug related to the chat. A few symbols caused a message not to be send, we're now taking care of everything. Smiley
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August 14, 2019, 05:06:49 PM
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Due to a massive attack we're offline for a few hours to implement further security.
As soon as we're back online I'll update the post. Smiley
Stay tuned!
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August 16, 2019, 07:47:55 PM
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We're back online!
We banned alot of IP's which were acting aggressively.
In order to protect against certain kind of attacks we introduced an update requiring users to have made at least one payin in order to trigger withdrawals. (Custom error message following)
The Max. Profit is currently lowered quite a bit but will rise back to it's old value in a short while - we had to move some money.

If no further interruptions will occur I'll add the provably fair code next. (Needs a minor beauty tweak first)

Cheerz!   Wink

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The faucet sadly had to be lowered to 5 sat.
This might change again, the current purpose is more security on our side.
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August 17, 2019, 12:29:56 PM
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Nice design, shows fluent in movies too.
I just couldn't find a guide about the game anywhere, I'm not familiar with this dice game so I'm not sure how it'd work.

Also, a demo-like experience with fake balance would be great.
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August 17, 2019, 02:19:27 PM
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Nice design, shows fluent in movies too.
I just couldn't find a guide about the game anywhere, I'm not familiar with this dice game so I'm not sure how it'd work.

Also, a demo-like experience with fake balance would be great.

It is basically not a dice game but it is a modified/simplified sicbo game, you may try to find more info about how the game works by googling. Indeed it would be better if there is a "How to Play" on the site so new comers who do not know about the game are able to learn it on the site directly. There are some removed betting options from the original sicbo games on this site such as specific double combination and specific number combinations. You can try it with the faucet though, so fake balance is not needed at all since you can claim the faucet even you can win real money if you are lucky enough from the faucet.

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