This is a fake bit coin bull run don't fall for it

[Shinpako09]

Nope, the bull run isn't fake. Crash or decreased is really happening even in bull run because traders are taking profit. You can't determined the bull run if it's fake or not just by seeing the altcoins price movement. Reason why the alts didn't go up even if the btc fall a bit is simply because they are trading in btc/usd.

[Ayiranorea]

Nope, the bull run isn't fake. Crash or decreased is really happening even in bull run because traders are taking profit. You can't determined the bull run if it's fake or not just by seeing the altcoins price movement. Reason why the alts didn't go up even if the btc fall a bit is simply because they are trading in btc/usd.

If the recent bull market is a manipulation from the whales then we should have experienced large scale fluctuations which will be taken as an opportunity by the whales to profit out of it. As of now what we see is the real growth, Op has stated that there is no big growth with altcoins which makes it a fake bull trend which is not the right way to decide the bull run.

[sana54210]

yes you right, we can't really say if this is the bullrun because like you said if not all coin hit a green day and get increase.
i keep my BTC on my wallet safe and still waiting until 2021 when the true bullrun is come.
i believe with that preditcion of bullrun time.

Don't know your basis of bull but it's showing good upwards movements so for those who avail buying early this year they are seeing the bull bringing big profits from what they've invested in and keep enjoying the trends while still continuing to rise high.

In the past few months bitcoin is increasing drastically started from $3k and now beyond $10k. It might not bull run yet because altcoins are not increasing unlike btc, but for bitcoin itself its a good sign that the price is changing positively, the reason why others are thinking its already bull run.

Do we have to always link bitcoin and altcoins together every time before we understand that they both function separately, so you are saying that the fact that altcoins has not started on its bull run means this surge of bitcoin cannot be classified as bull run? You have to understand that before altcoins can start their own surge, bitcoin is always the first to set example.

The moment this type of dramatic surge starts, it automatically means that we are already in bull run, but altcoins would not always follow immediately, it will take bitcoin to become stable for a while when it is going sideways for altcoins to start their own surge too, so we are absolutely in bull run already, we just need to wait for the time bitcoin will go sideways for other alts to follow.

[benjamin07]

Some watchers think like this:

First BTC price rise, then BTC price flattens, then altcoins start to rise, then the market crashes.

What we are seeing here is:

BTC and only major altcoins rise, $hitcoins remained the same. For example TRONIX/USD remained constant so TORNIX(TRX)/BTC went down when BTC/USD went up.

Prior to 2017: the many alt coins which spawned around BTC had died, only very few survived such as LTC and DASH.

In 2017: the previous alt coins fungus was replaced by ICOs. Even some of the old altcoins, such as CasinoCoin have moved from having their own blockchain to sit on Ethereum. As BTC became too expensive, people missed the boat and went into altcoins. The situation was very miserable, some people created coins like Tokugawa (TOK) which is 100% pre-mine and sold those coins OMG. Other category of people is the masternodes such as VIVO which collapsed by infinite %.

Today: it appears that people are a bit wiser when it comes to altcoins, that could be one reason why alts have not pumped.

But as per the above, at each stage, a "new" invention or imitation will come, a new kind of fungus.

[bitbunnny]

I don't see how can you tell if bull run is fake or not. That sounds like another conspiracy theory is involved.
I look at the current price situation.as a normal volatility process, nothing that is staged or under someone's influence. Also you can't always link Bitcoin and altcoin, there is no direct prove that this too markets are closely linked and depend on each other.

[redsun114]

How can an increase from 3.4k type of levels to as much as 13.6 thousand dollars (now over 11 thousand dollars again) can be a fake bitcoin bull run? I mean how high do you really need it to go up to make it a real bull run? It has already ran its course and ended lets suppose and even in that circumstances the price already increased like hell, how could you think this was a fake one when it already happened so much and increased so much. I mean we are at a triple the price point where we started already.

Some people are just way too jealous of others making money while they are not making money at all and they just wish to see everyone lose money as well, I am 100% sure there are people in this world who would be delighted to see bitcoin go to 100 dollar levels so they can say "at least others lost money too".

[exstasie]

How can an increase from 3.4k type of levels to as much as 13.6 thousand dollars (now over 11 thousand dollars again) can be a fake bitcoin bull run?

In Elliott Wave terms, it could easily be an "X" wave in a larger WXY structure. This would be a short term correction to a longer term (bearish) trend. Considering we reversed right at the .618 fib retracement of the 2018 bear market, this is still a distinct possibility.

This post explains it pretty well.

[malevolent]

How can an increase from 3.4k type of levels to as much as 13.6 thousand dollars (now over 11 thousand dollars again) can be a fake bitcoin bull run? I mean how high do you really need it to go up to make it a real bull run?

If the recent increase in price has been fueled by bitfinex printing tethers, as some suspect, I wouldn't call the growth 'organic'.

[exstasie]

How can an increase from 3.4k type of levels to as much as 13.6 thousand dollars (now over 11 thousand dollars again) can be a fake bitcoin bull run? I mean how high do you really need it to go up to make it a real bull run?

If the recent increase in price has been fueled by bitfinex printing tethers, as some suspect, I wouldn't call the growth 'organic'.

Many would argue Tether printing drove the 2017 bubble too. Yet here we are.

Even if it's true, over the course of years it doesn't matter. The price action wrought by the Mt Gox Willy Bot wasn't "organic" either but in the long run it just didn't matter.

[eaLiTy]

Bitcoin is back at 10k but every single alt coin hasn't really gone up
The growth is un organic and fake , maybe by 2 or 3 whales or maybe even a corrupt exchange

Just came to see your wonderful FOMO thread .
What is not organic with the price rise and what fake you are talking about, just do not dump your illusion, you need to explain why you think like that and which exchange are doing these rallies and if those fake rallies are so easy they could have made billions by now and why they are not doing that all the time  .
If you miss out on entering the market when the price was low, just forget about it and do not cry and say all these bullshit.
I am sure you are holding a ton of shit coins and not bitcoin and so is the reason you created this thread  .

[Jating]

Bitcoin is back at 10k but every single alt coin hasn't really gone up
The growth is un organic and fake , maybe by 2 or 3 whales or maybe even a corrupt exchange

Just came to see your wonderful FOMO thread .
What is not organic with the price rise and what fake you are talking about, just do not dump your illusion, you need to explain why you think like that and which exchange are doing these rallies and if those fake rallies are so easy they could have made billions by now and why they are not doing that all the time  .
If you miss out on entering the market when the price was low, just forget about it and do not cry and say all these bullshit.
I am sure you are holding a ton of shit coins and not bitcoin and so is the reason you created this thread  .

Aww man, you're so mean, altcoin market is taking a beating right now, while bitcoin dominance is growing. We went as low as $9800 if I'm not mistaken, but the price seems to pick up again and the OP is still thinking that we are in the fake mini-bull run, hard to argue with someone with close mind and didn't see what's really going on with the ecosystem.

[eaLiTy]

Aww man, you're so mean, altcoin market is taking a beating right now, while bitcoin dominance is growing.

Yes buddy i am truly sick of the alt coin market as i lost a shit ton of money to all the scams and projects who started just to loot our money and then dump their coins in the exchange and run away with the investors money, i knew the market would eventually turn like that without any regulation but i made a good profit with ETH but i sold everything when it touched $10 but then on i was looking at decent projects to invest and some made good profits but from 2017 4th quarter all the scam projects started coming out with decent looking promoters and fake vouches and drained me out basically. I still hold some alt coins but the price has hit rock bottom than the initial ICO price and not sure when they will be rising nor whether they will be rising at all, so if i see some say bullshit about bitcoin because alt coin is not rising i would naturally like to tease them  .

[pealr12]

How can you say its a fake bullrun where in all parts of cryptoworld says bull run has already started and will make a new ATH beforw the year ends,  news, crypto analyst , investors believe bull is ongoing.

[omonuyak]

Those that keep faith with the current bullish trend are making money and those that see it as trap are really losing out. Bitcoin has gained over $9000 since the trend began in April and it is price many of us did not believe bitcoin will get there but we have seen that happening. I do fall for the current happening in the market and I  am happy I did.

[South Park]

Aww man, you're so mean, altcoin market is taking a beating right now, while bitcoin dominance is growing.

Yes buddy i am truly sick of the alt coin market as i lost a shit ton of money to all the scams and projects who started just to loot our money and then dump their coins in the exchange and run away with the investors money, i knew the market would eventually turn like that without any regulation but i made a good profit with ETH but i sold everything when it touched $10 but then on i was looking at decent projects to invest and some made good profits but from 2017 4th quarter all the scam projects started coming out with decent looking promoters and fake vouches and drained me out basically. I still hold some alt coins but the price has hit rock bottom than the initial ICO price and not sure when they will be rising nor whether they will be rising at all, so if i see some say bullshit about bitcoin because alt coin is not rising i would naturally like to tease them  .

Any investor that has at any point in time invested in altcoins has lost money, I know because I did the same mistake years ago and like you I learned my lesson, I am not surprised at all that altcoins are not moving much and are losing ground against bitcoin, of all the alts in the market there are only 50 to 100 that are worth anything while the rest are nothing but attempts to grab our money and run with it, so it is understandable that this time around investors are not wasting their time in altcoins at all.

[exstasie]

Aww man, you're so mean, altcoin market is taking a beating right now, while bitcoin dominance is growing.

Yes buddy i am truly sick of the alt coin market as i lost a shit ton of money to all the scams and projects who started just to loot our money and then dump their coins in the exchange and run away with the investors money, i knew the market would eventually turn like that without any regulation

Even with regulation, this is what the startup space has always looked like. There's a really high rate of failure. That's why the pink sheet stock market is often criticized for being rife with scams just like the ICO market. The bottom line is that providing seed money is a high risk, high reward investment. If you're not willing to immediately sell into the initial hype for some fast gains, most of your (long term) bets will be losers. However, the couple winners you back could set you up for retirement. You need good reads, patience, and some degree of luck is required.

[Dewi Aries]

How can you say its a fake bullrun where in all parts of cryptoworld says bull run has already started and will make a new ATH beforw the year ends,  news, crypto analyst , investors believe bull is ongoing.

Someone usually want to buy in cheap price. We know in this because there are 2 side of people in crypto market. But OP's acyial purpose actually we don't know or maybe he just want to warn us about price.

[omonuyak]

How can you say its a fake bullrun where in all parts of cryptoworld says bull run has already started and will make a new ATH beforw the year ends,  news, crypto analyst , investors believe bull is ongoing.

Someone usually want to buy in cheap price. We know in this because there are 2 side of people in crypto market. But OP's acyial purpose actually we don't know or maybe he just want to warn us about price.

If he is warning us about the price then he should not scared us. Those that suppose to take the advantage of the current bull run to recover loses may abandoned investing after see this scared warning. Though I hardly follow others people opinion when I want to invest I do follow my personal judgements.

[normanderecho]

Bitcoin is back at 10k but every single alt coin hasn't really gone up


The growth is un organic and fake , maybe by 2 or 3 whales or maybe even a corrupt exchange

We cannot judge bitcoin base on its single correction because so far bitcoin is recently came back to increase its price since how many months its been stabilized its price thats seemingly nothing change at all. And now we notice bitcoin is have a good fluctuations and has quite increase its price in month of june which is reach $14k, nobody expected to reach bitcoin in early time. We hope this month july bitcoin have another surge of price which might hit $15k.

[Dewi Aries]

How can you say its a fake bullrun where in all parts of cryptoworld says bull run has already started and will make a new ATH beforw the year ends,  news, crypto analyst , investors believe bull is ongoing.

Someone usually want to buy in cheap price. We know in this because there are 2 side of people in crypto market. But OP's acyial purpose actually we don't know or maybe he just want to warn us about price.

If he is warning us about the price then he should not scared us. Those that suppose to take the advantage of the current bull run to recover loses may abandoned investing after see this scared warning. Though I hardly follow others people opinion when I want to invest I do follow my personal judgements.

Usually people have different ways to tell others. Or maybe if he make other scared, he only want to buy bitcoin in cheap price so people will panic and afraid to buy more bitcoin and then only who want to sell it in market. Only OP who know what actually his purpose.