Universal Basic Income

[TheCoinGrabber]

Until we get to the point that there are no longer any possible jobs humans can do, I don't agree with having a UBI. I don't like the thought of rewarding people for simply being alive.

I actually find the future where we have complete automation less rosy than what is portrayed in sci-fi like Star Trek. Where is the money going to come from anyway? What happens when you are branded "unsavory" and have your income cut off and there's no job you can do since everything is automated?

The money wouldn't even matter if we have more than enough resources for everyone.  You are looking at this the wrong way. Capitalism already rewards people for simply being alive, money makes money faster than working.  Why not spread that wealth to the lower income group.  If the wealth gap gets too out of hand society crumbles apart.

If you can't even feed yourself, would you bite the hand that feeds you? Money is more than just a store and exchange of value, it's freedom.

Money wouldn't be a matter when we have more than enough resources for everyone? And who will control those resources and why would they share it with us, the majority who don't help with the output?

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[BADecker]

Until we get to the point that there are no longer any possible jobs humans can do, I don't agree with having a UBI. I don't like the thought of rewarding people for simply being alive.

I actually find the future where we have complete automation less rosy than what is portrayed in sci-fi like Star Trek. Where is the money going to come from anyway? What happens when you are branded "unsavory" and have your income cut off and there's no job you can do since everything is automated?

The money wouldn't even matter if we have more than enough resources for everyone.  You are looking at this the wrong way. Capitalism already rewards people for simply being alive, money makes money faster than working.  Why not spread that wealth to the lower income group.  If the wealth gap gets too out of hand society crumbles apart.

If you can't even feed yourself, would you bite the hand that feeds you? Money is more than just a store and exchange of value, it's freedom.

Money wouldn't be a matter when we have more than enough resources for everyone? And who will control those resources and why would they share it with us, the majority who don't help with the output?

Money freedom tends toward socialism, where people depend on each other.

Barter freedom tends toward individualism, where people depend on themselves.

[TheCoinGrabber]

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Money freedom tends toward socialism, where people depend on each other.

Barter freedom tends toward individualism, where people depend on themselves.

So, you prefer barter over use of money? Are you not a fan of specialization?

I'm fine with getting paid in money since whatever few skills I have may not always be in demand.

[BADecker]

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Money freedom tends toward socialism, where people depend on each other.

Barter freedom tends toward individualism, where people depend on themselves.

So, you prefer barter over use of money? Are you not a fan of specialization?

I'm fine with getting paid in money since whatever few skills I have may not always be in demand.

People are socialistic by nature. My freedom is enhanced by private socialism.

Money simply makes public socialism work easier. But easier is as easier does. Couch potatoes get fat, and less able to do for themselves. Exercise makes one strong, so that he can handle the troubles of life easier.

When fiat collapses, don't be so sure that the whole electrical grid won't collapse, and take Bitcoin right along with it.