Facebook’s Libra + Bitcoin + Trump + Israel = 666 Orwellian Dystopia

[Traxo]

The blog in question:  

https://medium.com/@shelby_78386/facebooks-libra-bitcoin-trump-israel-666-orwellian-dystopia-2115e1ec601c

https://steemit.com/libra/@anonymint/facebook-s-libra-bitcoin-trump-israel-666-orwellian-dystopia

The author argues that Libra is a 666 plan.  

You Can’t Keep Your Bitcoin Nor Gold  

The rest of us will be fleeced, including those hodling Bitcoin or precious metals,  
both of which will be targeted by capital controls and radicalized taxation (such as the G20’s global minimum tax) aimed at impoverishing everyone  
but the powers-that-be so they can move all of us onto 666 Universal Basic Income slavery.

We’ll be kicked off of Bitcoin by:

• The coming Core donations “attack” which will donate all your Core BTC to the miners (actually Satoshi’s clever game theory defense mechanism against the Core con-job scammers). Read the entire linked thread, to learn how to protect your Bitcoin from this “attack”.
  
• The insoluble flaws in Lightning Networks (c.f. also)
  
• The skyrocketing transaction fees of the “legacy”, one-and-only, immutable Satoshi “v0.1” Bitcoin with immutable 1 MB blocks (i.e. not Core, BCH, nor BSV) that will be the only “Bitcoin” that survives and appreciates to greater than $1 million within this decade.
  

[hornetsnest]

....... so they can move all of us onto 666 Universal Basic Income slavery.

A fine proposal : https://blog.saturn.network/on-chain-kyc-is-coming/

...fireside chat with Satan..."Adam and Eve had the finest UBI offered to them until they went and bit into that apple"
"Universal Basic Income is Faust's poodle etc etc."



.... Now all will be able to join the trendies and spend their bits on a frothy one too.Tasty inclusiveness

[hornetsnest]

Sumer,Mesopotamia where ALL greek gods of Olympus originate from.Hebrew EDEN translates as DELIGHT, whereas Sumerian EDIN translates as a "desert plain" (modern Iraq).


Inanna is associated with Romantic love, beauty, sex, desire, fertility, war, justice, and political power. She was originally worshipped in Sumer and was later worshipped by the Akkadians, Babylonians, and Assyrians under the name Ishtar.She was known as the "Queen of Heaven"
Ishtar, in Mesopotamian religion, goddess of war and sexual love. Ishtar is the Akkadian counterpart of the West Semitic goddess Astarte the fine lady adorning the starbucks cup which has become the symbol of coffee snob trendies all over the world.The minions from Zuckbook will now be able to swap Zuckbucks for Starbucks


Fun fact: The Ishtar Gate is the 8th gate of Babylon and NOT the 9th as some conspiracy band members state.There is also a fine copy of the structure built within the Pergamon museum in Berlin today. A fine IStargate beside the Altar in fact.

Fun fact: The Greek word for dove means “bird of Ishtar” yet the only bird a demon CANNOT inhabit is a dove.It's true you know

[hornetsnest]

The restored version at Berlin's Pergamon Museum only represents the front half. An identical section stood behind this facade, with wings that integrated into the city walls. Behind the gate stood the long staircase to the Babylonian Ziggurat, referred to in the Bible as the Tower of Babel.

https://www.livescience.com/43036-ishtar-gate.html

Rebuilding Babylon:The world's tallest building and vertical city is due to be in Basra,Iraq. It is called The "Bride" of the Gulf.





In his 1933 book, "The Shape of Things to Come " Wells predicts that the headquarters of this world government would be in Basra, Iraq which is relatively near Babylon and modern Iran.

http://www.paulmcguire.org/articles/articles_babylon_basra_hgwells_new_world_order.html




Relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebuchadnezzar_II  ...NO not that Daniel  

[Wind_FURY]

That Shelby character must have a lot of time in his hands, writing all those long well-thought out conspiracy theories. He's like a flat-earther of the Bitcoin community.

[davis196]

That Shelby character must have a lot of time in his hands, writing all those long well-thought out conspiracy theories. He's like a flat-earther of the Bitcoin community.

Is he even a member of the Bitcoin sommunity?
Anyway,for me Libra+Bitcoin+Trump+Israel=A bunch or bullshit.
Is Zuckerberg the anti-Christ?No,he's just e greedy power-hungry NERD/geek.

[Traxo]

Found this message:

That Shelby character must have a lot of time in his hands, writing all those long well-thought out conspiracy theories.

He's like a flat-earther of the Bitcoin community.

You got that logic transposed. Remember those who thought the earth was round were considered heretics by the vast majority of their era.

You’re the flat-earther. I can think outside the peer pressure box and propose a theory about the earth being round, which is heretical inside your mainstream world.

But thanks for making my point for me.

[Naida_BR]

I don't believe in conspiracy theories. And this one is an extreme one.
You cannot be kicked from Bitcoin, even if something happens to the chain, a fork will happen that will turn everything back to normal. The author spent a lot of time in attracting attention for nothing.

[Wind_FURY]

That Shelby character must have a lot of time in his hands, writing all those long well-thought out conspiracy theories.

OK, if believing that you are unique, and special makes you feel better.

He's like a flat-earther of the Bitcoin community.

You got that logic transposed. Remember those who thought the earth was round were considered heretics by the vast majority of their era.

You’re the flat-earther. I can think outside the peer pressure box and propose a theory about the earth being round, which is heretical inside your mainstream world.

But thanks for making my point for me.

I believe in reality, and that any effort by miners to steal Segwit outputs will be invalid, and then cause a hard fork, then leaving your "Real Bitcoin" chain with very little value to the community. While you believe it will be the end of Bitcoin, the end of Segwit, and that you win.

Who's the flat-earther?

[infofront]

That Shelby character must have a lot of time in his hands, writing all those long well-thought out conspiracy theories.

OK, if believing that you are unique, and special makes you feel better.

He's like a flat-earther of the Bitcoin community.

You got that logic transposed. Remember those who thought the earth was round were considered heretics by the vast majority of their era.

You’re the flat-earther. I can think outside the peer pressure box and propose a theory about the earth being round, which is heretical inside your mainstream world.

But thanks for making my point for me.

I believe in reality, and that any effort by miners to steal Segwit outputs will be invalid, and then cause a hard fork, then leaving your "Real Bitcoin" chain with very little value to the community. While you believe it will be the end of Bitcoin, the end of Segwit, and that you win.

Who's the flat-earther?

An obvious counterpoint would be that "the community" is irrelevant, economically. Mircea Popescu alone probably has more BTC than the 10,000+ people who ran full nodes, signalling for the UASF segwit fork.

That raises an obvious question: Will "The Real Bitcoin" be more valuable to the big players?

[el kaka22]

I love these "illuminate is behind all of this" type of people, I mean they are always blaming Jewish people, they are blaming the big rich families like Rothschilds and so forth because lets be honest isn't it easy to just blame someone else for your problems? I mean isn't rich getting richer and poor getting poorer a reality already? So why not put that into some Orwellian Dystopia blame as well? In reality all of this is caused by the rich people but those rich people change, the companies are rich and not the people themselves, you think Jeff Bezos is rich?

Amazon is even richer, you think Bill Gates is rich? Microsoft is richer. So basically as soon as someone else takes over and does the shady stuff then you will realize its not the people that are evil, its the corporations that are making this wealth gap bigger.

[exstasie]

An obvious counterpoint would be that "the community" is irrelevant, economically. Mircea Popescu alone probably has more BTC than the 10,000+ people who ran full nodes, signalling for the UASF segwit fork.

That raises an obvious question: Will "The Real Bitcoin" be more valuable to the big players?

Whales are not economically relevant on a network nobody uses.

What exactly is the basis for "The Real Bitcoin's" value in this dynamic? What you're suggesting goes in the face of Metcalfe's Law. With a network so tiny, there isn't even a logical economic basis for any whales to support the miner's fork. Only obscure crazies like Mircea Popescu would for political/philosophical reasons. The vast majority of whales would rationally protect their wealth rather than pursue an obscure fork where miners steal everyone's BTC.

You seem to think some small minority of whales and the forking miners are enough to create a network worthy of any value. It's much more likely it'll look like Bitcoin Cash (or actually probably one of the more obscure shitcoin airdrops like Bitcoin God). The market can sniff out a few big players trying to corner the market. Nobody will fork their client except those colluding in the attack, nobody will use the network, there will be zero demand for the mining rewards on this chain. Just like Bitmain with Bitcoin Cash it'll be a spectacular failure. They can throw some hash rate and fake transactions on the network but the market will see right through it. When there's no demand for the miner rewards but there's still loads of airdropped coins to dump, what do really expect to happen?

Who would ever buy into and prop this market up except those who are attacking Bitcoin (the 0.5.3 miners), who are already expending hash power on likely worthless mining rewards? The market isn't this dumb, and if you think Bitcoin miners are this short-sighted and dumb to even attempt this, good luck to you. This is much, much more obscure shitcoin fork than Bitcoin Cash and yet "this time it's going to be different." When will people ever learn to stop fighting the market? You people amaze me.

You want to hedge for the least likely scenario possible? Keep your coins in legacy addresses. But actually buying into this Shelby's clueless rants that ignore all logical game theory? LOL.

[Wind_FURY]

That Shelby character must have a lot of time in his hands, writing all those long well-thought out conspiracy theories.

OK, if believing that you are unique, and special makes you feel better.

He's like a flat-earther of the Bitcoin community.

You got that logic transposed. Remember those who thought the earth was round were considered heretics by the vast majority of their era.

You’re the flat-earther. I can think outside the peer pressure box and propose a theory about the earth being round, which is heretical inside your mainstream world.

But thanks for making my point for me.

I believe in reality, and that any effort by miners to steal Segwit outputs will be invalid, and then cause a hard fork, then leaving your "Real Bitcoin" chain with very little value to the community. While you believe it will be the end of Bitcoin, the end of Segwit, and that you win.

Who's the flat-earther?

An obvious counterpoint would be that "the community" is irrelevant, economically. Mircea Popescu alone probably has more BTC than the 10,000+ people who ran full nodes, signalling for the UASF segwit fork.

That raises an obvious question: Will "The Real Bitcoin" be more valuable to the big players?

That's my point. Would the big players want to play among themselves, without the "irrelevant community" to empower them, or would it be more productive for them, the community, everyone to be good actors?

I believe if they start stealing Segwit outputs, then they would fork, and split to another worthless "Bitcoin X" chain that no one would care about.

[YuginKadoya]

A lot of conspiracy indeed and if this libra thing is in the prophecy that will be the digital microchip or what so ever to simply control the collective economy of the world because of the Illuminati would simply want a one world order, I have watched a lot of video like this that is pertaining to the 2nd coming of Christ and  if this is pertaining to the control of the currency I would not really choose Libra over bitcoin, But if these shenanigans are true then we can not do anything about it but to really wait the impending thing to really happen.

[Traxo]

Relaying another message here:  

Whales are not economically relevant on a network nobody uses.

Incorrect when “nobody” comprises those $billionaires and $trillionaires who aren’t the sheepeople masses.

What exactly is the basis for "The Real Bitcoin's" value in this dynamic?

The powers-that-be are going to back Facebook’s Libra with Bitcoin after they phase out the US dollar with the coming strong dollar vortex global monetary reset. This is how they make Bitcoin the reserve currency of the world, while also onboarding all of us onto a 666 (fully tracked, centralized by a consortium of large corporations) medium-of-exchange.

You should not comment here until you have read the blog that is linked in the OP, otherwise you will make ignorant statements which have already been addressed in the said blog.

What you're suggesting goes in the face of Metcalfe's Law. With a network so tiny, there isn't even a logical economic basis for any whales to support the miner's fork.

You throw around technological terms without even knowing what the terms mean. Metcalfe’s Law is incomplete because it doesn’t model the relative value and costs of network interconnections. See the following blog for your edification:

Odlyzko-Tilly-Raymond scaling

Only obscure crazies like Mircea Popescu would for political/philosophical reasons. The vast majority of whales would rationally protect their wealth rather than pursue an obscure fork where miners steal everyone's BTC.

Sheepeople love to dream that the world is flat and the $trillionaires have not enslaved them. Fact is, you have no choice.

You seem to think some small minority of whales and the forking miners are enough to create a network worthy of any value.

Doofus read the blog before you write more stupid shit.

Facebook’s Libra will be widely used and then they will back Libra with the real Bitcoin that wealthy people control.

You’ll be enslaved along with the rest of your worthless idiot Segregation Witless compatriot comrades.

It's much more likely it'll look like Bitcoin Cash (or actually probably one of the more obscure shitcoin airdrops like Bitcoin God).

Even after our very long discussion, you still can’t seem to wrap your mind around the Nash equilibrium of unforgeable costliness and the fact that is requires immutability. There is only one immutable Bitcoin. That is Satoshi’s “v0.1” protocol, as Satoshi even stated. And don’t repeat the same fucking argument that I already rebuked in our prior discussions. Readers can click the link to go read if they’re interested.

The market can sniff out a few big players trying to corner the market.

The Hunt Brothers weren’t the powers-that-be. They were sucked into that trap by the powers-that-be.

Nobody will fork their client except those colluding in the attack, nobody will use the network [blah blah blah nonsense]

Lol.

You want to hedge for the least likely scenario possible? Keep your coins in legacy addresses.

Correct.

[Harlot]

From the earth being flat, missing airplanes, 9/11, big foot and to cryptocurrencies being linked to the devil. I don't know why people create such things whether they have so much time or have fantastic imaginations or even both I'm just surprised on how they can connect everything without even trying hard to do so. Just like this guy, obviously he doesn't know what he is talking about and thinking that Libra can outmatch BTC because "Bitcoin can never be a medium of exchange" brought to his own close-minded reasoning/

Libra doesn’t compete with Bitcoin. Bitcoin can never be a medium-of-exchange because of the invariants pointed out in the subsequent You Can’t Keep Your Bitcoin Nor Gold section of this blog.

[bitcoindusts]

Are you serious? How then did the number 666 came out with the additions you made? The bible said that 666 is a number of a man and not a thing.

Revelations 13:18
“Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.”

[Wind_FURY]

Words

All that FUD. But yet, Bitcoin is just chugging along, developed by the best developers, and supported by the largest number of cryptocurrency users, and growing, who validate their own transactions.

Good luck to you, and your thoughts, Shelby.

[Traxo]

Decoded a message: 

Libra doesn’t compete with Bitcoin. Bitcoin can never be a medium-of-exchange because of the invariants pointed out in the subsequent You Can’t Keep Your Bitcoin Nor Gold section of this blog.

Just like this guy, obviously he doesn't know what he is talking about and thinking that Libra can outmatch BTC because "Bitcoin can never be a medium of exchange" brought to his own close-minded reasoning

Libra is not intended to “outmatch Bitcoin”. The two are designed to be synergistic for a global monetary reset.

Lol, what rock are you going to crawl under when I am proven correct?

But yet, Bitcoin is just chugging along, developed by the best developers, and supported by the largest number of cryptocurrency users, and growing, who validate their own transactions.

Refuted.

[Qoheleth]

People try to predict how biblical apocalyptic events will come about, even though the bible itself says those events will be completely unexpected when they finally happen.

This person has the same problem. If the bible is a reputable authority, then predictions like this absolutely can't succeed, and are a waste of time anyway.
But if the bible is not a reputable authority, then the whole argument is based on nothing.

So, in short, I voted "disagree".

[Traxo]

Relaying few more verses

People try to predict how biblical apocalyptic events will come about, even though the bible itself says those events will be completely unexpected when they finally happen.

This person has the same problem. If the bible is a reputable authority, then predictions like this absolutely can't succeed, and are a waste of time anyway.
But if the bible is not a reputable authority, then the whole argument is based on nothing.

So, in short, I voted "disagree".

If you had actually studied the blog post and the Rogue Wave thread both linked from the OP, you would understand that my thesis is not relying on the Bible, nor “missing airplanes”, nor UFOs, nor any other nonsense, other than some economic and game theory facts.

But of course some readers have the reading comprehension and attention deficit disorder of a 2 year old.

[THX 1138]

Posted as an impartial messenger.

As I had warned on July 6, 2019[1], Facebook’s Libra is to eventually be phased-in as a replacement for the U.S. dollar. Now we have confirmation from the BOE governor, Mark Carney who originated from Goldman Sachs (aka the Vampire Squid):

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-23/unprecedented-shocking-proposal-boes-mark-carney-urges-replacing-dollar-libra

I also predict that eventually Bitcoin[2] will be phased-in as one of the backing assets for Libra. Tyler Durden isn’t yet aware of my prediction. I am always earlier than everyone in figuring these things out (at least among those prominent enough and who publish their thoughts).

Remember the Libra Foundation is a consortium of 39 (so far) major corporations (mostly tech firms and banks). The globalist plan is to move the world to overt corporate controlled (totalitarian) global monetary policy. The multinationals are consolidating their control over the world.

Note Martin Armstrong also knows that a monetary reset is coming soon because of the strong dollar vortex and the collapsing global economy:

Thus far, it still appears that Trump will win the 2020 election which may be a very good thing since we are facing the Monetary Crisis Cycle in 2021/2022 where we will most likely be in a position where negotiations on the restructuring of the system will be a critical issue.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157901.msg51731723#msg51731723

[2] Legacy Bitcoin is the only real Bitcoin. Not the “official” Core which is actually an impostor which will be destroyed in May 2020:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157964.0;all

Tyler had a good follow up analysis today: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-24/why-mark-carney-thinks-dollar-can-no-longer-be-worlds-reserve-currency

That’s more thorough. He expands on the range of possibilities for Libra’s future backing. And he makes the point (which I have been pounding in the sand) that the coming strong dollar vortex will require a “Synthetic Hegemonic Currency” alternative.

Strangely no mention of John Nash’s Ideal Money paper, which is essentially what is being discussed.

[Wind_FURY]

As I had warned on July 6, 2019[1], Facebook’s Libra is to eventually be phased-in as a replacement for the U.S. dollar. Now we have confirmation from the BOE governor, Mark Carney who originated from Goldman Sachs (aka the Vampire Squid):

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-23/unprecedented-shocking-proposal-boes-mark-carney-urges-replacing-dollar-libra

No, Mark Carney "proposed" a Libra-like currency that the central banks control, not to use Libra itself. You are projecting your own reality on us.

I also predict that eventually Bitcoin[2] will be phased-in as one of the backing assets for Libra. Tyler Durden isn’t yet aware of my prediction. I am always earlier than everyone in figuring these things out (at least among those prominent enough and who publish their thoughts).

You "predict". OK, then I "predict" that Libra will never launch.

Remember the Libra Foundation is a consortium of 39 (so far) major corporations (mostly tech firms and banks). The globalist plan is to move the world to overt corporate controlled (totalitarian) global monetary policy. The multinationals are consolidating their control over the world.

Note Martin Armstrong also knows that a monetary reset is coming soon because of the strong dollar vortex and the collapsing global economy:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/the-shift-in-small-donations-to-trump/

What's new?

Haha. "Don't forget the real agenda".

[Wilhelm]

They are all 666 on their own, how can the sum be any worse

[Oilacris]

[fabiorem]

Please, post more conspiracy stuff.

Bitcoin is also entertainment.

[LUCKMCFLY]

There are many ways to attack technology, obviously many know the power that Libra has or will have due to the great Fame of Facebook, because almost all people in the world handle Facebook, and only that, makes Libra know the technology and it will bring much more people and investors market to bitcoin.

The enemies of Bitcoin, attack from all sides, this time, they want to take advantage through religions to do it, which I see as a great lack of respect, I believe that the things of God are the things of God ..

[fabiorem]

The enemies of Bitcoin, attack from all sides, this time, they want to take advantage through religions to do it, which I see as a great lack of respect, I believe that the things of God are the things of God ..

Except when god is a politician, as it happens with most conspiracy theorists out there.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I don't think Libra or anything else is going to torpedo bitcoin or cause the government to seize all our precious metals--the latter has only happened once in the history of the US as far as I know, and since the government has no problem printing all the money they want, they have no need for gold or silver anymore.  On the other hand, our coinage is no longer made of precious metals, so I guess you could consider that a serious devaluation.

Anyway, I refuse to put on the tinfoil hat and read those blogs.  All this hooplah about Libra is just wild speculation--the damn coin probably won't even get launched, and if it's some kind of stablecoin there's nothing particularly spectacular about it anyhow.  Facebook is just looking to get in on the cryptocurrency craze, but I can see no valid reason why anyone should use their own currency instead of something like PayPal.  It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out, though.

You "predict". OK, then I "predict" that Libra will never launch.

Hear, hear.  And if by some miracle it does launch, you can be sure the US government will regulate it to death.  They've already got their eyes and hands all over it, and it's still in the development stage.

[Wind_FURY]

Please, post more conspiracy stuff.

Bitcoin is also entertainment.

Haha yes. But I would prefer to read Shelby's conspiracy theories on "the Real Bitcoin", and that miners are secretly planning to "revert" back to the Real Bitcoin without the bloat, then render "Segwitcoins" as anyone can spend.

He will a difficult time accepting that it's a really also hard fork because "the Real Bitcoin" cannot "hard fork back to itself".

[Wilhelm]

Want conspiracies ?  Read this...

I like the one about Bitcoin being launched by rogue AI
“Satoshi Nakamoto is an anagram for: A moist satan hook.” 

https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2019/03/14/delve-deep-into-bitcoins-craziest-conspiracy-theories/

[SirLancelot]

I had once thought of creating a topic as regards this also and little did I know that someone ad already created it, according to my bible, it was recorded that in the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ after the trumpet had sounded, there will be a single currency that would have been introduced to the world and whoever does not have the mark 666 will not be able to send the single currency, and I am wondering if Satoshi is human or a sprit that has created the currency to fulfill the prophecy.

If this is so, perhaps, there is nothing that government can ever do to fight the bitcoin because prophecy must be fulfilled, which means bitcoin has come to stay and will go round the whole world, and what does that interpret, bitcoin will still appreciate a lot more than this before Jesus comes .

[Wilhelm]

I had once thought of creating a topic as regards this also and little did I know that someone ad already created it, according to my bible, it was recorded that in the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ after the trumpet had sounded, there will be a single currency that would have been introduced to the world and whoever does not have the mark 666 will not be able to send the single currency, and I am wondering if Satoshi is human or a sprit that has created the currency to fulfill the prophecy.

If this is so, perhaps, there is nothing that government can ever do to fight the bitcoin because prophecy must be fulfilled, which means bitcoin has come to stay and will go round the whole world, and what does that interpret, bitcoin will still appreciate a lot more than this before Jesus comes .

After the trumpet sounded
Or
After the Trump sounded
 

[STT]

Universal Basic Income slavery.

Why be opposed to what is basically a Libertarian idea.   All people are equal and giving people a basic income without restricting them with some idea they must not work while receiving the income is probably alot more productive then alternatives that create a welfare state of dependants who benefit from government income but somehow must agree to never work.    Dont we want people to work as much as possible.

Qatar has a basic income system for every citizen but because they are an oil rich country and also restrict even long term residents from becoming citizens it means the income is very high, I believe its 20,000 for every citizen and is given regardless of any other qualifying status just purely their family is one of the original arab tribes I guess is how it works.  
   That works for the mind set in the middle east but would be hard to justify in the west.   The main problem then is immigration and idea of giving basic income and even now welfare creates economic migration.    Migration by itself is not a negative so long as those people move, then work and produce in their new adopted nation, in fact it could be said to be essential where a country fails to have a growing population.

Removing all welfare to create UBI (to give everyone the same amount) is a de facto pay decrease to anyone with needs outside their control — such as diabetics, who need all the things you do to live, plus insulin.

I see healthcare in this way as separate.  Its a great cost but its also worth investing in a population to ensure their good health, I think even capitalism can justify this though it typically is a sign of large or left wing government.


Libra isnt attached to any of this, you can move your money into Euro or Yen today if you really want.  The only thing thats going to change in convenience to do so easily and maybe % costs might be alot lower for the common people.
  Libra isnt Orwell, if anything its a step away from the standard systems and introduces greater choice.   It might not succeed but thats the risk taken.

[realr0ach]

Metals will win.  Imaginary, valueless, digital shitcoin timestamps will lose.  That is all you need to know.

[Wind_FURY]

Metals will win.  Imaginary, valueless, digital shitcoin timestamps will lose.  That is all you need to know.

I believe it's not about "winning", but finding their place in society. Metals have found theirs, but I believe Bitcoin will also find its own, even if it's only a small niche in society.

[El duderino_]

Metals will win.  Imaginary, valueless, digital shitcoin timestamps will lose.  That is all you need to know.

The troll keeps trolling

[THX 1138]

Relaying as an impartial messenger.

But I would prefer to read Shelby's conspiracy theories on "the Real Bitcoin", and that miners are secretly planning to "revert" back to the Real Bitcoin without the bloat, then render "Segwitcoins" as anyone can spend.

Read my latest post (as relayed by someone else) in the “Long term advance notice!” thread.

He will a difficult time accepting that it's a really also hard fork because "the Real Bitcoin" cannot "hard fork back to itself".

After all that I explained in the Rogue Wave thread, you still can’t wrap that “pea brain” (105 IQ?) of yours around the fact that if and when the miners take the 6+ million BTC SegWit booty donations this coming May 2020 (as promised by Craig Wright), then Core will hard fork off. The fact is that Core address hodlers get only Core tokens. Whereas legacy, immutable Bitcoin address hodlers will receive a free airdrop of Core tokens in addition to retaining their legacy, immutable Bitcoin tokens. So how is that you accuse the legacy, immutable Bitcoin of hard forking off from itself, when in fact it retains its own tokens plus obtains free airdrop tokens after the hard forking. Clearly that establishes that Core will be hard forking off from legacy Bitcoin, not vice versa. But this is just arguing about semantics. If the SegWit tokens are taken by legacy Bitcoin miners as “anyone can spend”, there will be a hard fork because the Core protocol will reject those transactions, so the legacy miners will also reject the Core protocol blocks at that juncture. The discussion about which fork will survive and which will die is in the Rogue Wave thread and the “Long term advance notice!” thread. Above I have already linked both threads for readers to review.


Here’s some additional emails I wrote recently which couldn’t fit in the prior or succeeding post (exceeded maximum size for a single forum post).

We get the corrupt government that we deserve for disobeying the Lord (c.f. 1 Samuel 8 below).

Look at this face of a wealth tax:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/taxes/germany-the-spd-proposed-wealth-tax/

Does not look like a crazy lunatic. Yet his proposal for a wealth tax is lunacy. It is the Wiemar Republic repeating itself on a global scale (and starting in Germany!).

Yes the global elite are raping us all. But the global elite will never pay the wealth tax. No! Just like Carbon taxes, the global elite want the IDIOTS to vote to tax the “rich” because that destroys the middle class and upper middle class so that the global elite get to buy up everything for pennies after the economy collapses into the abyss.

The dumb ass people of the world actually vote to help the global elite and destroy themselves, because they’re too dumb to understand they’re being manipulated.

This is why democracy does not work. We can not allow dumb people to vote.

This is why democracy only ever worked when individuals were devoutly Christian and stayed out of politics. Remember when the USA used to be isolationist and our grandparents did not want to waste their time in politics. Our grandparents were too busy working, raising their families, and going to church.

Societies which become all invested in Babylonian politics crater into the abyss.

This is why China will prosper whilst the West collapses, because they do not have democracy. They do not allow idiots to vote. Their leaders will eventually screw up. But not until long after the West is a burnt tree stump.

In the above blog, Armstrong wrote:

The hunt for taxes has always ended in revolution.

Yup. And with revolution the sovereign bond market goes no bid. Hyperinflation results. Then the Hitlers take power. Genocide. And then finally reset and rebirth, so we can repeat the same cycle all over again.

Sigh.

Armstrong blogged:

QUESTION: Dear Mr. Armstrong, Thank you for everything you do so well. My question to you is, “Do you agree that absolutely anything paid for using collected/extorted tax dollars is socialism?” Thanks in advance. Dave

ANSWER: No. Building roads, schools, and infrastructure is not socialism. You cross that line when you engage in class warfare. This often starts with promises to treat people differently under the law based solely upon their status or income, and “redistribute” their wealth as if it were a charity.

Social Security is another example. They rob people of their income under the pretense that they will provide for you in your old age, then lower the benefits and keep raising the age qualification. They then seize your income and buy only government bonds, denying the average person the right to invest. They blame the “rich” for everything, but the “rich” get rich NOT by wages but by investment. So they deny the lower classes the right to provide for their own future and deny them the right to invest.

Socialism is when they tax people under the pretense of helping in a way that goes beyond the common needs of society. Once you move beyond the infrastructure that is a common function to allow for commerce, you then begin to approach the Marxist theory which has been proven time and time again to fail. Self-interest is critical and government will NEVER act in the self-interest of others, only itself.

Well Armstrong fails to point out here that such infrastructure needs should only be done at the local government level. Once you erect a national income tax (which is unconstitutional), then as flies to honey, the corrupt power will attract to the honeypot and enslave the people by promulgating debt and propaganda.

So really it is only Christianity that can keep people committed to small local governments and resist all the clamoring to vacate and violate 1 Samuel 8.

Or stated another way, problems tend to snowball into more problems and pretty soon it is an avalanche of collapse.

When the economy turns down, everyone points their fingers at shadows (at the antithesis of the actual causes) and vote to REKT their economies with Wiemar Republic-esque socialism (and then the Hilters will follow in the wake of devastation):

BUENOS AIRES - Argentine President Mauricio Macri rode to power in 2015 promising to bolster the farming sector and cut back taxes that had stymied exports. The country's backbone industry welcomed him with open arms after years of export controls aimed at keeping domestic prices low.

The powerful sector is now cooling on the center-right president, frustrated by revived export tariffs and sky-high borrowing rates that have bruised smaller farmers, a concern for Macri ahead of national elections later in the year.

Nobody they can elect can stop interest rates from rising. We have reached the end of global decades long debt bubble.

Macri had to raise taxes to try to appease the socialist youth who want everything for free. Free education, free healthcare, free abortions, free electricity, etc.. Because of Macri loses the election, then socialists are going to burn Argentinas economy to a burnt stump post.

Yet I disagree with Macri's IMF loan. That ruined his chance to be seen by the people as distinct from the wealthy bastards. Those loans were used to finance all the investors moving selling out so they could exchange pesos for dollars. Now the people are left holding the bag of a $60 billion (dollars!) IMF loan heading into a strong dollar vortex which will decimate currencies all over the world! Fuck! What an idiot!|

And this:

"One of the issues that I want to deal with is legal, safe and free abortion," Navarro said. "In the Macri government, there is no Ministry of Health, showing that a lot would have to happen to legalize abortion, which is something Fernandez said is important as a matter of public health."

There is also a certain cachet attached to Kirchnerismo, which counts high-profile actors and musicians among its supporters, analysts said.

Straight-laced Macri, whose supporters are mostly over 50, is viewed as a polar opposite from the Kirchnerismo image of questioning the status quo and confronting an established order.

"The years of Kirchnerism that I lived during my childhood, I lived very well and maybe at that time, I did not realize it," said Lucila Servelli, 16, who voted for the first time on Sunday, though voting is not compulsory for 16- to 18-year-olds.

"But comparing it with now, many things have changed. Now, my family had to give up many things," said Servelli, who was not born when Argentina defaulted in 2001.

Kirchner raped the country of $billions and was so corrupt destroying businesses all over the country with her extortion. The Clintons were similar.

This is coming to the USA eventually also, because the people have gone entirely insane. Lost Christianity. Lost all interest in researching reality. Entirely malleable to propaganda.

[THX 1138]

Relaying once again.

Anyway, I refuse to put on the tinfoil hat and read those blogs.  All this hooplah about Libra is just wild speculation […]

The governor of the Bank of England has spoken. The BoE is where all the power of fiat banking was started. I know that fiat banking was actually started in Sweden followed by the Netherlands in the 1600s, but the BoE was behind the world’s Anglo-Saxon superpower that dominated the globe before the handoff to the current superpower the U.S.A.. Before that it was the Holy Roman Empire and the Western Roman Empire. More on that below…

I don't think Libra or anything else is going to torpedo bitcoin or cause the government to seize all our precious metals--the latter has only happened once in the history of the US as far as I know, and since the government has no problem printing all the money they want, they have no need for gold or silver anymore.

The globalist, bankster bastards who created Bitcoin (and who are also ostensibly running the Core and Craig Wright scams) don’t need to come into your homes to seize your gold or cryptocurrency. They have a secret, legal code weapon they’ve been preparing. I recently explained it in an email which I copy below.

The governments are ramping up their enforcement of prison sentences for those doing exchanges without collecting KYC.

This means the door is closing for cashing out of Bitcoin

While Kalra has pleaded guilty and is yet to stand trial for his crimes, the outlook doesn’t look good. The maximum possible sentence for the aforementioned crimes is life in prison.

Meanwhile, a 32-year-old Australian national living in the state of Colorado has been sentenced to one year in jail after being convicted for money laundering with bitcoin, based on a U.S. Justice Department release also on Friday.

The convict, named Emilio Testa, facilitated trades between bitcoin and cash with undercover agents while knowing the proceeds were part of narcotics trafficking.

My theory is this is all part of the plan to taint cryptocurrency with illegality so that everyone has to prove their tokens were not sourced from illegal activity aka “Proof of source of funds” (which additionally includes proving financial means).

But the key point is even PoSoFs won’t protect us from what is coming:

The US Supreme Court ruled UNANIMOUSLY (9-0) that the Constitution’s ban on Excessive Fines within the Eighth Amendment, is being reported incorrectly that this is a case against these outrageous Civil Asset Forfeitures – SORRY – Not True!

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There was no evidence that the car was used in a crime and he had purchased the car with money that traced to insurance – not a crime. So do not get your hopes up that this is changing any Civil Asset Forfeiture. In such cases the action is In Rem so they are not accusing you of a crime nor is it a pure fine. They are claiming that the money is guilty – not you. They have confiscated money because a dog smelled marijuana on your bag so they get to take everything from you. Because they are not charging you with some crime, it is NOT punitive. In this case, it is punitive because Timbs plead guilty to a crime.

However, the ruling effectively means states and local municipalities cannot use fines as a mechanism for raising revenue, something many local governments do.

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The entire proposition for civil asset forfeiture is based upon the ancient tradition of  ‘deodand’ which is derived from the Latin phrase ‘deo dandum,’ and means “given to God.” In ancient times, the object that caused the death of someone was forefeited to pay for their funeral. The King of England, in desperate need of money, replaced God with himself.  The Supreme Court upheld Civil Asset Forfeiture in 1974 writing: […]

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The real argument has yet to be made that the King merely usurped the position of God for money and that violates the First Amendment prohibits any law be written that violates religion and thus the practice could not have survived the American Revolution.

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Because Timbs was not a pure civil forfeiture case, we have not overturned civil forfeiture laws, where police can seize a person’s property without even proving the person was guilty of a crime. They will easily distinguish this saying this is not a fine as in the case of Timbs.

So clearly you can see that governments are just going to confiscate everything claiming it is suspected of being involved in crime even though we were not involved. So PoSoFs will be insufficient. You go to exchange your Bitcoin in say 2021 or so, and the government orders the exchange to take it and hand it over to the government as Civil Asset Forfeiture.

Bitcoin maximalists are so overconfident. They fail to appreciate that Bitcoin never became a medium-of-exchange and thus will fail to be useful if the governments control all the on/off ramp exchanges to/from fiat (and Libra).

Game over. Checkmate. Get ready for the 666 slavery system.

That is unless as Christians we can have our own fully anonymized blockchain which we utilize as a medium-of-exchange and never cash to/from fiat. That is the only hope for us now.

Christians must reject the precedent of the King of England. Refer to my email about “Democracy fails without Christianity”. In the original email thread, I cited several blogs from Armstrong which pointed out that we never had these huge taxes until King of England arrived.

England’s King fucked over (the inalienable sovereignty of) Christianity (c.f. excerpts from my prior email cited below). And James A. Donald (blog.jim.com) who was the first to respond to Satoshi’s Bitcoin announcement on every mailing list he announced it on (there were three!) is a disinformation agent trying to promote the return to Victorian Era with a King. He even asserts that Christianity is dead and we need a new religion.

Folks everything is perfectly clear to me now. We have a choice to make as men. We get the government we deserve. If we reject the Lord’s warning in 1 Samuel 8, and embrace a King (aka government) to fight for us (e.g. fight for every thing we want via politics), then we will be entirely enslaved. Remember Jesus said walk with nothing from town to town.

Remember I wrote recently about how my mother explained that she doesn’t want to learn the truth of Climate Change fraud and that I am too serious. She prefers the propaganda because it makes her feel good. Remember FACT IS that females are not interested in serious planning and serious research (they always have another Freudian agenda even when they’re going through the motions of research and planning).

This is why Western democracy can’t function without adherence to Christian scriptures. Remember woman is only rib of a man, and man must be leader of the household. Thus for example, women must not be allowed to vote. And irresponsible non-Christian men must not be allowed to vote, because they’re too preoccupied with their hedonism to study issues up for vote in sufficient detail (read the Wall Observer thread on bitcointalk to see how hedonistic most Westerners are these days).

We Westerners are too busy bickering with each other over politics to actually see over the tree tops of the forest at how we’re being enslaved.

I'd rather have much less government.

That’s what democracy under true Christianity would be. Remember what the U.S.A. used to be. Isolationist. Not throwing our big dick military all over the globe to serve the globalists.

True Christians mind their own business.
(Do not conflate this with most so called “Christian” churches which stick their noses all over the place where it should, such as anti-abortion politics, etc)

The God of Islam never disciplines. He only rewards with 72 virgins in “heaven” for massacring infidels. Muslims chant “God is great” everytime they make a mistake, because their God can fix anything. No concept of self-responsibility. They abandon each other on the battle field. Islam is a religion that appeals to very, very stupid men. So you want stupid, selfish, undisciplined men voting?

It’s not whether we will better off with a dictatorship. It’s just what we will get for not being cooperative Christians with self-discipline, restraint and control over our urges.

Christianity is the only religion that tells man to aspire to be selfless. Animist religions such as the Asian religions equate man with an insect and thus man has no special, noble relevance.

ONLY Christianity is compatible with democracy. And if your society is composed of non-Christians or fake Christians who really do not adhere to the selfless and rebellious principles of Jesus, then your democracy will become totalitarian.

Christians have to separate themselves from the majority and form their own communities and their own cryptocurrency.

And restricting by race is not smart because Africa for example may be one of the most fertile grounds to find future devout Christians. Restrict by adherence/striving to the goal of the selflessness of Jesus. Restrict by willingness to learn these principles.

Jesus was color blind.

Armstrong has thus explained why China will rise because they don’t have democracy and our democracy has turned away from Christian cooperation towards Satanic hate:

It has become obvious that the mainstream press is FAKE NEWS. They are indeed out to get Trump and are using their position to desperately try to support the bureaucracy. The Washington Post has run a story stating Trump is wrong about the strength of the US economy. They claim his own advisors are warning that a recession is coming but he keeps saying the economy is strong. They’re accusing him of being a liar, which is no surprise.

What is really fascinating is that until Trump came to power, the press always talked up the economy because the belief has been if you tell the people there will be a recession, the people will contract their spending and create one. Larry Summers has explained that they cannot predict recessions, and if they could it would be a self-fulfillment of their forecast for if you tell the people there will be a recession, you will create one.

Back in 2009, the Washington Post always talked optimistically about the economy and how Obama would save the day. Now we have the Post talking up a recession in the USA into the 2020 election when NEVER IN HISTORY has any major newspaper preached the economy will crumble just to influence a presidential election. This is really amazing and a complete turning around for the media demonstrating they no longer report the news, they are trying to create it. Even the photos they showed of Epstein with Trump and his ex-wife were always used rather than those of Epstein with Bill or Hillary.

Every time there is a crash, the president ALWAYS comes out and says the economy is fundamentally sound. Hoover did that in 1929 and they have done that every time ever since — both parties. The theory is if the president ever came out and said we are doomed, the people would panic even more. It is just NEVER done until now when the press calls for a recession to defeat a president.

China understands the difference between the German mercantilist model of manufacturing and sells to everyone else and the United States which became the largest economy in the world because it allowed its domestic consumer economy to develop. China will become the largest economy in the world and take the crown from the United States because America lacks the political stability to foster long-term economic growth like China.

That statement will be a political bombshell no doubt. The demise of the United States is easily seen by the polarization of American politics. The Democrats come in and want to raise taxes and hunt the rich sending jobs and capital overseas. The Republicans come in and want to lower taxes and bring jobs and capital back home. The problem is very clear. Tax rates should NOT be a political yoyo. Corporations must have a budget. They cannot plan long-term because it all depends upon the next election every time. Unless the Supreme Court outlaws Marxism, there is no hope for the United States to survive long-term. Our political system will self-destruct the economy. There is just no consistency which is vital to economic growth.

China, in contrast, has a long-term plan. Its politicians are a career employee, but they need not stand for election. That actually allows for actual long-term planning where the United States cannot compete because of the polarization in American politics dominated by free-market Adam Smith v Marxist Socialism. This political war keeps getting worse and it is tearing the economy apart.

Those who have been expecting a quiet solution to the China v USA Trade War were shocked by the statements on Friday. China’s trade war escalation increased tariffs on imports imposing $75 billion worth of duties on U.S. goods, beginning Sept. 1 and December 15. China’s foreign ministry said that it would resume tariffs on U.S. imports of automobiles and auto parts and place an additional 5% or 10% tariff on agricultural and food products like soybeans, coffee, whiskey, and seafood.

To put this all in perspective, $75 billion in tariffs to an American economy in excess of $20 trillion, amounts to .003%. You would think all the wild swings and talk of trade would be a major factor in the US economy. However, it is not and China would very much like to see Trump lose the election so they can get back to negotiating trade deals by offering special treatments to the career politicians who look to get something out of everything for themselves.

(Traxo make sure you read how in Christian Rome, the government did not prosecute murder, only families did. Then the King of England replaced God with himself in defiance of 1 Samuel 8)

Robert, note Europe is leading the USA. Europe will collapse in the abyss first. And Europe will rise out of the abyss before USA will. Armstrong’s computer has predicted this outcome. See Armstrong blogs cited below.

So this means migrate from Europe to USA now. And then migrate back to Europe from USA later.

Or move to Asia if you can tolerate being sandwiched like sardines or you can find a way to own a large enough plot of land to have some peace and don’t mind dealing with the crush of humanity every time you venture out.

Let me expound a bit and again unfortunately the context of this discussion is in the other email thread, “Democracy fails without Christianity”. I had excerpted some of Armstrong’s recent blogs which contained information relevant to what I will expound now.

No leaders are making China great? My gosh China has some from abject poverty where the job of millions was to haul things on their backs as if they were farm animals, to robust middle class. No it’s not the level we attained in the West, but it is a heck of a lot better than what they had a few decades ago.

I do not admire their top-down, oligarchs system. Yet in reality the West is also a top-down, oligarchy, the only distinction is ours is obscured in political-capture and theirs is overt. But the fact is whilst we in the West destroy each other with our derision and lack of Christian values (as political-capture in a non-Christian context plays out to its bitter end), the leaders in China make plans and stick to them. China has abandoned Marxism. It is still totalitarianism, but now entirely capitalistic and materialistic. Of course eventually they will fall into the problems with a top-down run system and discouraging individualism, but compared to our loss of cooperation, stability and sanity in the West, Asia even while limping along with all its faults (fiefdoms, selfishness, warlords, etc) will be grow their economy whilst our Western economies collapse.

The West will rise again (in some hundreds of years), when we get back to our Christian roots. And after we’re finished shooting and destroying each other in a battle to determine which ideology of ours will win. We have to crash and burn first. Whereas, Asia is building and growing. Asia has the youthful demographics (on the whole aggregate) and outside of S.Korea and Japan, has no significant socialism/welfare burden (i.e. no significant entitlement burden). The pensions and entitlements are what will collapse the West, same as it did to Western Rome.

We in the West (on the aggregate including Europe) can’t even reproduce enough anymore. We lost Christianity. Lost our females. Etc.. It’s way overcooked. Stick a fork in it. And prepare for the long decline.

QUESTION: In terms of societal collapse, I have been looking at 2032 as the date of armegeddon , or the next major asteroid impact when life as I know it will completely cease (needless to say, kind of a downer), but in a recent blog post you mentioned the collapse of the West might stretch out for another 600 years (OMG, thank you!). Which is it?

ANSWER: I do not believe that 2032 is the end of civilization. Even if we assume this Sixth Wave will be of equal importance as the one that picked the end of Rome in 175 AD. Roman society declined for the next 300 years, and then the Dark Age emerged for another 600 years. So from the actual peak in Roman society, the low was about 900 years later.

That time frame is probably correct for North America but it does not mean society comes to an end. The financial capital of the world will shift to China, which will be the dominant economy for the subsequent 309.6-year period. Then it will migrate to Russia and then to Europe. It will probably take 900 years before it reappears in North America.

We do not really encounter the outright politically dominant women until the late 2nd century and they are from the East. It is not just one woman, but a number of them that began to manipulate politics and take more of an open role.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/the-decline-fall-of-the-united-states-on-schedule/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/224-collapsing-wave-structure-point-to-breakup-of-usa/

(above link to a chart showing the USA will decline from the date Snowden revealed the NSA corruption until 2085)

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/history/americas-economic-history/how-the-usa-is-in-its-death-throws/

(above links to a chart of political change compared with that of the UK)

As for the break-up of the USA, the computer has been warning for decades now that the 2016 election will see a sharp rise in third-party activity. The Republican Party may split again. We see the internal civil war with the Tea Party people. This is the core of the break-up for what lies behind that is culture and religion. Once the economy turns down, this will accelerate.

By 2032, the other side of this 51.6 year wave looks to be a starkly different world. The USA will split and China will become the Financial Capital of the World.

In Europe, you have an income tax that is higher than the USA by at least 20%, and then on top of that, you have a 20% VAT consumption tax. Additionally, there are mountains of municipal taxes and all sorts of regulations and fees.

The USA has the biggest consumer economy because the consumer is left with nearly one-third more of their income as disposable to spend compared to Europeans

ANSWER: Healthcare is destroying Western Civilization for the costs are far too high. Because they have been subsidized by the government, they have not been subjected to the normal business cycle. They just always have their hand out in uptrends and down. The government in Finland resigned on Friday after they failed to come up with reform to cut costs in healthcare. Between that trend and government pensions, these two forces are putting pressure to keep raising taxes and lowering the standard of living for everyone else. This is what I mean that we are in the stages of a collapse in socialism. There should be no government pensions where people have not contributed anything toward their future. Healthcare MUST be cut off and forced to be competitive. Obamacare was all about cheating the youth and forcing them to pay for healthcare they did not need to reduce costs for those who did need it. This is the hallmark of socialism – how to live off of other people’s money.

I sincerely fear that Trump will be the very last democratically elected president. They will from here on out alter the actual voting counts to support their desired outcome. This is game over! Turn out the lights! As they said of Rome: they will still laughing when the lights went out.

Will Russia’s economy eventually exceed that of Germany? The answer is yes, just as China will surpass the United States. The West is collapsing. World GDP has been in a bear market since the late 1970s. The economy is moving into a recession as we spiral toward 2020. We will then enter STAGFLATION — rising prices with declining economic growth — between 2020 into 2024 with another hard decline thereafter into 2028.

It does appear that the economic decline will be much more severe with respect to Germany than Russia. Therefore, part of the gains in Russia will be not so much from growth as it will be from Germany declining more significantly because of its export economic model.

QUESTION: During the WEC in Rome you’ve mentioned that center of finance moving to Asia after 2032. I’m wondering if work ethics from a country with no religion can be sustainable for so many years? My assumption is if the religion helped to shape the Europe’s success (and not any other part of the world at that time) and later on the USA (with religious work ethics), can it be preserved in China or will it fade away as people over there don’t want to work (they only do that in order to survive) ?

ANSWER: The work ethic is not really derived from religion but from the freedom under capitalism. Both in Russia and China, people retained their religious beliefs but in secret. Chine practiced the Tall Poppie Syndrom where they did not care what you thought provided you did not stick your head up above others. Russia under Stalin was one of paranoia. He directed children to report on their parents. This is why China has boomed for it left humanity intact. The Chinese are highly motivated to work more so than in the West. It is part of their culture.

Nevertheless, at some point, China will peak and then decline. The cycle will then return to Europe and then off to the Americas. As society expands, the birth rate declines and people want to enjoy the good life.

The tax rate in the ancient Roman Empire was about 5% with some paying as little as 2%.

The PERFECT monetary system is one in which there is no debt. Rome lasted for 1,000 years BECAUSE it had no debt

QUESTION: You mentioned that Rome had no national debt and no central bank. Exactly how did it function for 1,000 years?

ANSWER: In addition to not having a national debt or a central bank, Rome had no police force or agency charged with enforcing the law. There were specific crimes against the state that would be prosecuted such as arson and treason. But the prosecution of a murder would be carried out by the family. The responsibility for enforcing the law thereby fell on the kin, tribe, gens and patron of the offended individual.

As far as finances, the government simply minted coins to pay its expenses.

It was the King of England after Magna Carta who began to prosecute people for what was private crimes all so he could make money. By the time of the American Revolution, there were 240 felonies all of which carried the death penalty. So the king got to confiscate all your property and throw your family out on the street all based on what had historically been a private dispute.

It was not until Magna Carta when the nobles rose up against King John who was fining people for all sorts of things. They demanded a right to trial by jury and this seriously reduced the king’s revenue. He changed the law at that time and suddenly cast himself as a victim in any private dispute. Two people fought and the king now claimed it disturbed his peace. Suddenly, what used to be private now became state crimes. I previously wrote about the history of civil asset forfeiture, which was deodand in ancient times whereby the object that caused someone’s death was sold and the proceeds were used for the victim’s funeral. The king replaces God with himself and today we have people’s assets being confiscated under the theory that the object offends God who has been replaced by the state.

QUESTION: Wanted to ask you if you are noticing the same thing as me regarding the ‘quality’ of goods and services these days and if this is history repeating itself again, such as the fall of the Roman empire?

To explain, I am noticing that the quality of the goods and services I buy whether durables or consumables is terrible and only getting worse. Nothing is built to last (such as tools, electronics, even vehicles), and the quality of consumables such as food and services is b-grade at best and it is hard to find alternatives.

I live in Australia and just about everything is made overseas, such as China. I bought a simple axe from a hardware store and it lasted 3 weeks. Had it replaced and it lasted 3 more weeks. Went back to see if I could find one made in Australia and could not find any.

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Rents are expensive but landlords treat you like your scum, not to mention insurance companies.

Car registration is expensive and yet the quality of our roads is terrible.

ANSWER: Both the quality of goods and services declined during the 2nd century (post-180 AD), and society began to decline overall even morally. An interesting view is that of an outsider looking in. The author of this interesting quote is the famous 10th-century Arab geographer and historian Abu al-Hasan al-Mas’udi (c. 896–956AD) of Baghdad. He reflected upon what unfolded in Europe, expressing the grim reality in the early Middle Ages through a foreigner’s eyes. In outlining the peoples of the world for his contemporaries, an Arab geographer of the day described Europeans as having “large bodies, gross natures, harsh manners, and dull intellects . . . those who live farthest north are particularly stupid, gross and brutish.” He described the fall of Rome, and in describing western civilization, he effectively used similar concepts that the classical historians like Herodotus and Tacitus had once used to describe the barbarian world outside of European civilization.

The sequence of events leading up to such drastic changes begins with high taxes and hunting the rich as we are witnessing today. Maximinus I declared all private wealth belonged to the States which was just one more step to the left from Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and AOC. Once you do that, the result is the hoarding of wealth and that ends up contracting investment creating an economic death spiral. Education declines and regulation rises as the government seeks more power. The overall trend creates a precipitous drop in quality of life, and all the very reasons for the rise of civilization are then reversed and the trend moves from concentration to separation. This is the overall general scheme as to the reasons why Rome fell.

Keep in mind that the Dark Ages were about 600 years. So we need not worry about this complete collapse in our lifetime. Nevertheless, we are experiencing the early stages of the decline and fall of Western Civilization. The government pensions will create the same trend of fragmentation and turning government employees against the people. We will see the split of the European Union and the same in Canada as well as Australia. The United States will also split as some regions will reject the socialist regions and their attempts to subjugate their beliefs to their own.

If Rome’s sheer size made it difficult to govern because centralized government always fails. This contributed to the ineffective and inconsistent leadership which only served to magnify the problem as we are witnessing today as politics also has become highly polarized.

The Praetorian Guard became the same as we have today with the Deep State, illustrated in the FBI, CIA, and NSA all conspiring to overthrow Trump. This political chaos also extended to the Roman Senate as it has currently in modern times. The Senate became a cesspool of corruption that failed to temper the excesses of the emperors due to its own widespread corruption and incompetence (i.e. gridlock). As the situation worsened, civic pride waned and many Roman citizens lost trust in their leadership.

The Barbarian attacks on Rome partially stemmed from a mass migration caused by the Huns’ invasion of Europe in the late fourth century. As the Huns moved West, the barbarians were compelled to invade. Once they saw that Rome was vulnerable following the capture of Valerian, the invasions began in mass. This led to the Roman Empire dividing into three regions. Postumus (260-268 AD) led the rebellion creating the Gaulic Empire (Britain-France-Spain) and in the East Zenobia carved out her Empire based in Syria.

We are simply following the very same pattern in the same order. History repeats simply because human nature never changes. We would always like to think we are smarter and different. That has never proven to be anything more than a preferred delusion.

QUESTION: Hello Martin Armstrong,
Australia seems to have one foot in the West and one in the East. With the fall of the Western economies and then the rise of Asian economies, how does that affect the Australian economy? Does the real estate bubble collapse the Aussie economies and then the rise of China creates the opportunity to rebuild the economy after 2032?

ANSWER: The computer is projecting that Australia will first have to collapse with Western culture because it has become exceptionally left-wing. This is the collapse of socialism in general. We are collapsing just as communism did. It will be one Pi Cycle (31.4 years) from 1989, which brings us into this target of 2020/2021. We should expect serious political change on the horizon that will result in civil unrest.

Longer-term, however, with one foot in Asia, Australia will turn from the USA and Europe. As I have said, China is MUCH WISER than what we see in the West. While Europe is fighting over old economic models and clinging to theories that no longer work, China is investigating HOW the USA displaced Europe. It did so with LOW TAXES and regulation that built the American consumer market that the entire world has been dependent upon.

Germany’s economic model is still the old Mercantilist theory that national wealth is obtained by selling more stuff than you buy from others. The USA model has been internal rather than the Mercantilist external model. This is what China has realized and it is turning inward. Western society has not figured this out yet. Just look at BREXIT. The entire argument against it in Britain is that they will not be able to sell to Europe. That is really stupid and absurd.

Therefore, when the socialist model collapses in Australia, there will be a natural risk of a separatist movement. Western Australia will certainly find that, economically, they are more aligned with Asia than the East coast.

The problem the SNP faces is they have mixed up independence, socialism, and remaining in the EU rather than the UK. In this regard, they have truly lost their way and do not comprehend either trade or the fact that socialism is collapsing right in front of their face.

(MY COMMENT ON THE ABOVE IS OF COURSE BECAUSE THEY REJECTED CHRISTIANITY SO THEY ARE VERY VERY CONFUSED)

QUESTION: on Sept 12th 2013 you wrote about the ‘Return of the crusades’. Now, 6 years later, with the massive migrant crisis still ongoing, a lot of people consider leaving Western Europe bc Sharia law is looming everywhere. Mohammed takes the first place for baby names in many countries, sharia law spreads, kindergartens don’t serve pork anymore, Easter festivities in school get canceled bc of Ramadan, rapists and even murderers don’t go to jail bc neither the executive nor the judicative has capacities anymore to even open a trial and so on. At the moment, it looks as if Western Europe will become a caliphate within the next decade or two. With Migrants still flooding the continent and the birth jihad, it seems Europeans/Christians will vanish in the foreseeable future. I would like to know what Socrates has to say about this… will there be a counterstrike? Or a religious war? Right-wing parties rise everywhere, so the Europeans ARE fed up. But is there even enough TIME to turn things around…?

What do the cycles say?

ANSWER: Unfortunately, the cycle of religious tension is also due in 2021/2022. The first recorded persecution of Christians took place under Emperor Nero who blamed them for setting the great fire in Rome. The base cycle on a major shift in religion turned up in 1990, which was 224 cycles of 8.6 from 64 AD. Add pi, 31.4 years, and we arrive at 2021/2022. Nevertheless, there was also rising tension with Islam itself. This I laid out in the 2015 Cycle of War report. When the economy turns down, that is when tensions rise. There was the religious war in Christianity known as the Byzantine Iconoclasm, which existed between about 726 and 787 AD. The peak before the war came 72 cycles of 8.6 from the Nero persecution of 64 AD. Then 96 cycles later we come to Martin Luther in 1517 when he posted 95 theses on the church door in the university town of Wittenberg. Cyclically right on time, in 1534 King Henry VIII declared himself to be supreme head of the Church of England. This resulted in a schism with the Papacy and began the events known as the English Reformation.

It appears we are building toward 2021/2022 when things are going to begin to get heated on a religious basis.

Every American will require pre-screening, so in other words, you will need a quasi-visa to even get on the plane. There will be no more free travel.

The application will be then checked across multiple databases right down to your credit history. If the application is not flagged to be looked over manually, they claim a decision will be reached by the system “within minutes,” the site says. If an application is denied, the applicant will receive a reason as to why but you can bet it will omit all political implications and focus on anything, such as arrest records, and will deny you a visa. The shocking number of Americans who are arrested is one-third of those BEFORE they reach the age of 25.

We are approaching the real Big Brother era. By 2020, China also plans to give all its 1.4 billion citizens a personal score based on how they behave. Some with low scores are already being punished if they want to travel. Nearly 11 million Chinese are not allowed to fly and 4 million are barred from trains. We are rapidly approaching the use of technology that will prevent you from traveling or doing anything if you are somehow not acceptable to governments.

Our children and grandchildren will NEVER know what freedom really was all about.

Welcome to the new age of technology. We will have to prove who we are to even move. In communism, you could not move to a different house without the permission of the government.

QUESTION: Western Civilization will collapse by 2032.
I didn’t expect such a strong comment from you.
Specifically, what does this mean?
On the level of ancient Rome? Followed by the dark ages or just mediocrity and the rise of the East?

ANSWER: There is a serious risk that after 2032, this will be very much like the fall of Rome […] At the lower threshold of risk lies that reality whereby at the very minimum we are looking at the collapse of centralized governments as took place in 1989 with communism. That will result in greater separatist movements and the breakup of national states as we know it today. The USA could break into four main regions. Britain would find it too splits and Scotland, as well as Wales and Ireland, revert back to their origins.

With the collapse of Rome, the monetary system collapsed and people hoarded their wealth. This resulted in coinage vanishing from circulation. Eventually, gold vanished from the money supply for nearly 600 years. It did not reappear until 1232 with the first coin being issued in Brindisi. This was issued in order to conduct trade with Byzantine and Arabs.

So what the computer is showing is the rise in civil unrest and the risk of war. Just look at what took place at the State of the Union – there is no UNION. This nonsense the Democrats have engaged in has fired the first shot that will be heard around the world. They opposite absolutely everything that Trump says or does. When the political tide switches, the Republicans will do the same to them. It is over. There is no common ground or going back. We are witnessing the destruction of all democratic systems. This is how republics die – polarized opposition.

This is part of what the computer is forecasting – the collapse of governments as we have known. NEVER before has anyone dared to say that the president was not “their” president. We always accept the winner even when it was someone we voted against. That acceptance no longer exists. Furthermore, we are looking at the collapse of socialism the same as communism. Both were derived from Karl Marx. They are both unsustainable economically. The pension system is collapsing with many municipal governments having near or more people on retirement than working. Just look at Illinois as an example. The state, provincial, and municipal levels of government cannot create money. All they can do is raise taxes to force people to pay state employees that were promised endless money for life.

In the West, girls are simply not having enough children. This is undermining the entire social structure. The welfare system is dependent upon the population increasing, or at the bare minimum remaining unchanged. Europe has secretly allowed refugees in to try to make up for the decline in population that will undermine their highly socialistic economic system. The contrast with the West stands in China and Korea. In the case of China, here too there is a shrinkage in population. However, unlike the West, China is neither adopting Quantitative Easing or allowing an influx of refugees in.

In the case of Korea, they are hoping for a reunification with the North. This, they hope, will compensate for the shrinkage in their population. Historically, the more economically advanced a society becomes, the fewer children the women have. Even in ancient Rome, the first Emperor Augustus passed family laws and would fine men who would not marry and have children.

Once again, history reveals the trends are consistent throughout the centuries.

QUESTION: Marty, Colorado is changing its law that the electoral college will be assigned according to the popular vote to try to stop Trump. Would you care to comment on this?

ANSWER: In Colorado during the 2016 Presidential Election, 48.2% voted for Hillary and 43.3% for Trump. The danger of this bill means that the people of Colorado might not vote. Regardless of who they vote for, the state will vote for whoever won the popular vote. So if Trump won the national popular vote but the state voted for a Democrat, then the state would have to vote for Trump. This is a very strange proposal. It is trying to eliminate the possibility of a winner who is not the popular vote winner.

Colorado will become the 12th state to join the national popular vote interstate compact. Those 12 states and the District of Columbia, which has also passed a popular-vote bill, account for 181 electoral votes, just under 90 shy of the 270 votes a presidential candidate needs to win the White House. The compact will not go into effect until the coalition includes states that add up to 270 electoral votes or more. Once it does go into effect, states that are part of the coalition would award their electoral votes en masse to the candidate who wins the national popular vote even if their state voted for the opponent. That can really eliminate the meaning of voting for one state can engage in fraud as took place in California forcing all the other states to vote for a candidate they rejected.

These states are trying to prevent a Trump victory at all costs. The purpose of the Electoral College was to ensure that one state does not dominate all others. It will also expose the entire nation to voter fraud as was out of control in California which is why Bernie went to the White House to complain to Obama that Hillary stole California from him.

COMMENT: Mr. Armstrong; I want to thank you. My parents died and left me their home in Naples, Florida. I was going to sell it but after reading you and the fact that even you moved to Florida, I decided to keep it. We have been renting it out and it is always fully booked. The realtor said we can probably get 20% more next year the market is that good. He said it was the weather. I think it is also taxes.

REPLY: The rental market is very good here. I must say, traffic has been about double from the last snowbird season. I personally do not like that, but it is a result of the extreme cold up north. The joke down here is you can probably rent out space under your bed. The weather has clearly boosted the rental market. However, we also have a strong migration from people fleeing New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, and Massachusetts who mostly head for the East Coast of Florida. The west coast, where I am, tends to attract more people from the midwest, but I have probably met more people from New Jersey here than I ever did in New Jersey. I was doing some interviews for potential staff and I actually met a girl born in Florida. The interesting thing here is that just about everyone you meet is from someplace else.

COMMENT: You have to help us out here. California tried to tax text messages. The feds stopped that.

Now, LA county wants to tax Uber and lyft. They’re already taxing us, I think, for mosquito control. The mosquito control only hands out info too. It does no real work.

This is crazy. Everywhere in California, they’re trying to shake us out of every cent. Is there anything we can do to stop this?

REPLY: Sorry. This is how governments commit suicide. Instead of dealing with the problem and looking at this from the long-term view, all they care about is what is in front of their nose. The attitude is to just raise some tax to meet the next expenditure. They do not look at this and where it ends up. Historically, if Rome had taxed people at 50%, it would have never lasted 1,000 years.

There is no hope in sight.

Even the US economy has been gradually slowing since the 1950s. As taxes rise and the share of the economy government consumes keeps growing, they are starving the real economy and suppressing its economic growth rate. We are headed into a very hard landing. It has been the rise in taxes and regulation that is also behind the trend to automate replacing workers as much as possible.

Even in our cars, there are features they do not tell you about. I have a Porsche. I pulled into my driveway and shut off the car but the stick was not completely in the park position. When I came out the next day, the battery was dead. My neighbor found the same thing happens when he travels. He has to keep his car plugged in because even when these newer cars are turned off, they are not completely off. It is still running programs and reporting back to a central computer. This is like Windows, which constantly wants to update so it can extract all your searching. Why does a car need to always be in touch with the manufacturer to the point that you cannot go on a trip and come back a couple of weeks later without discovering your battery is dead? Do we have to pop the hood and disconnect the battery before we take a trip?

Technology has advanced, but it is now being abused.

I have stated many times that while working around the world with major corporations, I have yet to meet anyone who is actually doing something in which they had a degree. Most CFOs seem to have engineering degrees. You cannot get a degree to be a hedge fund manager, President of the United States, a member of Congress, a state governor, mayor, race car driver, or CEO of a major company. There is not even a degree requirement to be a member of Congress. The real conspiracy is telling people they have no future life without a degree. This is the real scam: making money by burying the young in a lifetime of debt after paying for degrees that do not produce jobs.

The problem Hong Kong will face is as the financial crisis in Europe erupts, this will push the Greenback higher. If Hong Kong keeps desperately trying to hold the peg, they will import DEFLATION and turn their economy down very hard all because of international events. The models we showed at the Singapore Conference targeted 2019 for an important turning point.

There is a real crisis in the fertility rate which has fallen to such a low level that all the socialism going forward will simply collapse. What used to be the Baby Boom is now being called the “Baby Bust,” which means that in all first-world countries there is a real crisis for they have insufficient children to maintain their population size.

One of the secret tools government pulls is to deny the people the right to vote on key issues they want that are often cloaked in backroom deals. Seattle is a great example of how the local government pulls every trick in the book to hide the truth about what they are really up to. The Seattle Mayor has been caught outright hiding the details of a proposal to allow homeless people to take over public parking lots.

Meanwhile in Illinois, one politician wants all politicians to wear body cameras so people will see the backroom negotiations that are filling the swamp. While this proposal sounds like a good idea, there is nothing to stop them from meeting on personal time to take the under-the-table bribes. Even in Florida, a town on the shore suddenly found politicians voting for a major hotel when the people never wanted it. The political chaos and hints of corruption have filled the air that politicians were just paid off to vote against the people in Madeira Beach.

Trying to prove corruption and bribes is difficult. Government knows how to protect itself very well. This merely begs the question, how much longer will the people put up with this treatment?

What is interesting is that three waves of 51.6-years brought us to 1979 and the Reagan Revolution in politics with the slogan – let’s make America Great Again. Reagan was reversing the socialism of high taxes and high regulation. Of course, the next wave brings us to 2030. From the 1854 political split, we arrive at 2009. Besides picking the low in the economy and stock market crash from 2007, this turning point marked what many called the Second Republican Revolution.

They worry that the sweeping proposals and hardball tactics of liberal firebrands could alienate centrist voters in the 2020 election, even as they hold out hope that Democratic primary voters, focused on defeating President Trump, will check the party’s move to the left.
The moderates’ concerns came to a head this week when one of the newest Democratic stars appeared to threaten colleagues who would not toe the liberal line, raising the specter of a fracture in the party between moderates and purists, similar to a long-standing divide in the Republican Party.

Any way we slice and dice these numbers, they are all pointing to the same outcome — a rise in third-party activity. That also applies to the Democratic Party. There are serious fissures emerging behind the curtain that I doubt CNN would report. This movement that is beginning to fracture the Democrats is actually being instigated by AOC (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.)) There are threats being made behind the scenes that some of her colleagues could find themselves “on a list” of primary election targets if they do not support her and especially following anyone who voted for a Republican amendment that required undocumented immigrants who try to buy guns to be reported to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

One group that is making such threats are known as the Justice Democrats, who are a liberal group that backed AOC primary campaign. They are attempting to dictate to the entire Democratic Party that it is their way or they will fund people to replace them. This is what Boehner was doing to Republicans who would back the Tea Party Conservatives. The power has gone to the head of AOC and she clearly thinks all the attention she is getting means she should be in charge. She was born October 13th, 1989 so she will be 35 just a few weeks from the Presidential election in 2024 for which they are preparing.

By turning Democrats against Democrats, the risk of a split is very high. These latest tactics are creating a Nixonian type of hit-list. She is really behind this demand of unification for her Green New Deal. Imposing this sort of political test is not only anti-Democratic insofar as individual candidates cannot stand for something different, but this sort of dictatorship will lead to a Democratic version of the Conservative Tea Party rebellion that transformed the GOP and kicked Boehner to the curb.

ANSWER: AOC actually has a greater following than Schumer or Pelosi, and they seem to be letting her run wild. My discussions in Washington were enlightening. There are many people in the Democratic Party who actually think their people want more taxes and agree with her New Green Deal. Their corporate sponsors will run in the other direction. The real damage is being created because this only adds to the polarization we see in 2020. Long-term, there is ZERO hope of ever getting back to a normal government. We have entered the realm of hate politics.

ANSWER: It will not end well. Government employees have the defined-benefit (DB) while we get the defined-contribution (DC) plans. Most state and local government employees, actually 87% of those working full time, participate in a defined benefit (DB) pension plan. They contribute NOTHING but are guaranteed a pension on top of what they earned, plus free healthcare for life. The vast majority of those in government have NEVER had to save anything. They are there now demanding that our futures be stripped. We are to be taxed until we die, and upon death, they want what is left.

This situation cannot end nicely. It is the same way that Rome collapsed. When the government could no longer afford to pay the army, it began sacking Roman cities that opposed their general. They turned inward and cannibalized their own cities, weakening the entire empire, thereby allowing the barbarians to come through the gates. We have followed the very same mistakes as Rome. This is just how empires always end. We are no different.

How can someone working for the government negotiate their own pension? This entire system is flawed and we are paying the price of civil unrest.

We have a very interesting crisis building in addition to the political chaos we see coming in 2020. By the time we reach 2021, we will have over $2 trillion in investment grade corporate debt maturing. This is going to present some very interesting problems. Up to now, we have advised our corporate clients to borrow at these rates and lock it in for 30 to 100 years. The bulk of corporations, who we do not advise, funded themselves short-term. With about $2 trillion maturing by 2021, they will end up pushing interest rates higher from there onward.

[infofront]

I’m relaying this as an impartial messenger.

Although his analysis may seem outlandish to some readers, an open dialogue for all information (and noise given, that the distinction between the two is relative to the observer) is more Antifragile than excessive/rigid commitment to closed-minded groupthink.

Notably the confusion of the people about what is really going on (which I have attempted to clarify in this thread), is evident in the following linked humorous rap video about centralization versus decentralization:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/co-founder-of-linkedin-presents-crypto-rap-video-hamilton-vs-satoshi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaMJi1_1tkA

For example, so ironic that Bitcoin is characterized as “freedom to the people”, when in fact I’m explaining my theory that it’s likely to end up as a globalized enslavement mechanism. And then rap Satoshi implies that Bitcoin will combat the “rich get richer” phenomenon; whereas, my theory is the Libra Foundation (run by some of the world’s largest tech and bank multinational corporations) will eventually switch (from Axis powers currencies reserves) to employing Bitcoin as the reserve backing Libra (after the coming strong Dollar forces a global monetary reset). So then in effect the claimed (and probably faux) decentralization (given globalist powers-that-be presumably through political and mass media capture, control unlimited printing of debt money to buy mining equipment) will be controlled by centralization, given that the said Libra Foundation will control the reserve ratios and everyone’s permission to transact contrary to rap Satoshi’s claim of censorship resistance.

Rap Satoshi even capped off the political propaganda (implicitly discrediting our the Christian/Weberian virtues) by blaming the coming global recession on “a bunch rich WHITE guys”. Satan (and his globalist henchmen) are twisting the minds of the people. Feeble, arrogant minds think Christ is a fairly tale. Western society will be nothing without the cooperation of Christian values. Democracy will collapse into fighting and our economies will torn down to burnt tree stumps. So if the only way democracy and Western society functions is with Christianity, then how is that Christ does not exist? Christ doesn’t have exist as a likeness of man. Christ can be a phenomenon. I will in the future endeavor to compose some novel theological documents to explain these issues more concretely.

The video’s propaganda goes typical Westerner eugenics, bizarre with the references to man-made climate change (man impacts only the local environment and even I think 180 I.Q. Freeman Dyson is likely incorrect about man significantly impacting atmospheric CO2 which is likely released by the oceans during warming from the sun), which the facts clearly show is an absolute nonsense and climate change has become a religion where believers deny the facts.

The video is probably going to end up prophetic where rap Hamilton predicts Bitcoin to crash and burn, which is what I posit may happen to the impostor Bitcoin Core this coming May 2020 after Bitcoin attains a nosebleed ATH before the halving (c.f. also FilbFilb’s latest free newsletter for detailed justification of an accelerated ATH before the halving, which fits my thesis of a necessary nosebleed price and hashrate difficulty before the posited SegWit attack at the halving).

Note I think Hamilton is correct that a nation can’t survive without a strong central government. So the question is do we really need nations to defend and acquire land borders when land is becoming relatively worth-less:

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/bitcoin-rises-because-land-is-becoming-worthless

No! What we need is truly decentralized, truly permissionless, truly scalable (transaction volume), truly untraceable/anonymous cryptocurrency. This does not exist in Bitcoin (not even with Lightning Networks) nor any altcoin. I know. I analyzed all of the altcoins.

Psst. The fix to this madness is coming…seek and ye shall find…and no the antiquated physical, precious metals will not help us.

[Wind_FURY]

For example, so ironic that Bitcoin is characterized as “freedom to the people”, when in fact I’m explaining my theory that it’s likely to end up as a globalized enslavement mechanism.

You focus too much on Bitcoin, and your own opinion. What about the "idea" that Bitcoin gave the world? Separation of money and state.

Bitcoin will be a globalized enslavement mechanisim, and "failed"? No problem, bootstrap another network. That's Bitcoin's legacy.

whereas, my theory is the Libra Foundation (run by some of the world’s largest tech and bank multinational corporations) will eventually switch (from Axis powers currencies reserves) to employing Bitcoin as the reserve backing Libra

How can you theorize about something that will never launch.

No! What we need is truly decentralized, truly permissionless, truly scalable (transaction volume), truly untraceable/anonymous cryptocurrency. This does not exist in Bitcoin (not even with Lightning Networks) nor any altcoin.

OK. For now Bitcoin would do in my opinion.

[Bisbee]

In addition to Israel, agonist theorists have new discussion topics, such as Trump and Libra. I think this is a good advertisement for Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Maybe people who are addicted to conspiracy theories can learn more about Bitcoin and maybe even start using it.

[Gahs]

I know for sure a time will come when money will no longer be in paper form but in digital form.

It's much easier to monitor digital transactions than paper money transactions... that's where 666 controlling spending comes in.

[Wind_FURY]

I know for sure a time will come when money will no longer be in paper form but in digital form.

It's much easier to monitor digital transactions than paper money transactions... that's where 666 controlling spending comes in.

Libra will be easier to monitor AND censor, if they are lucky to launch. But not decentralized, censorship-resistant cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin. A threat of a UASF/UAHF has already taken precedence, it will happen again if any group will try to co-opt Bitcoin.

[fabiorem]

In addition to Israel, agonist theorists have new discussion topics, such as Trump and Libra. I think this is a good advertisement for Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Maybe people who are addicted to conspiracy theories can learn more about Bitcoin and maybe even start using it.

Sorry, but I know the type, they will never adopt bitcoin.

They need the evil conspiracies to rule the Earth, so that they can sell books about these groups.

Its just business for them.

[Wilhelm]

In addition to Israel, agonist theorists have new discussion topics, such as Trump and Libra. I think this is a good advertisement for Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Maybe people who are addicted to conspiracy theories can learn more about Bitcoin and maybe even start using it.

Sorry, but I know the type, they will never adopt bitcoin.

They need the evil conspiracies to rule the Earth, so that they can sell books about these groups.

Its just business for them.

Trump will endorse it if we fork it into TrumpCoin.... 

[lixer]

Seeing all these things has global currency, I have already known too that it is typically signs of end of the time, cryptocurrency might not really be fully implemented in our own time, maybe after the coming of our lord Jesus Christ as a believer, it is already written that there would be one currency, and I think that this is already a sign.

It makes me have this believe that time will come that the world will start recognizing bitcoin and using it, by that time, paper currency would have gone digital, so instead of creating another digital coin, they would have no choice than to use the already existing currency that has already been known by the whole world, because of you look at the way bitcoin has really been exposed, virtually all world leaders knows about it.

[Reid]

Oh c'mon, that is just too much.
This people are just so numb with greed by now.
They dont even feel that they want more money even though they are getting it already every day.
Look at the world now being manipulated by those who have money only and not a single one of them are really receiving happiness.

I would rather stay in my private life than be like them.
But back to that biblical thing. There is really no proof of it. We will never know when the Lord will come back. But when he does, I am sure we will all be on our knees with all of our sins.

[Lanatsa]

I know for sure a time will come when money will no longer be in paper form but in digital form.

It's much easier to monitor digital transactions than paper money transactions... that's where 666 controlling spending comes in.

Libra will be easier to monitor AND censor, if they are lucky to launch. But not decentralized, censorship-resistant cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin. A threat of a UASF/UAHF has already taken precedence, it will happen again if any group will try to co-opt Bitcoin.

In the first place Libra was never intended to be a decentralized one and its just normal to think and conclude that this one would be heavily monitored to those who are on the top position.Government will always be like this and would never changed.If they do saw something that do oppose according to their likings then they do have the power to block nor stop it without any hesitance.

Seeing all these things has global currency, I have already known too that it is typically signs of end of the time, cryptocurrency might not really be fully implemented in our own time, maybe after the coming of our lord Jesus Christ as a believer, it is already written that there would be one currency, and I think that this is already a sign.

It makes me have this believe that time will come that the world will start recognizing bitcoin and using it, by that time, paper currency would have gone digital, so instead of creating another digital coin, they would have no choice than to use the already existing currency that has already been known by the whole world, because of you look at the way bitcoin has really been exposed, virtually all world leaders knows about it.

No fan too much on biblical things since no man would able to predict on when the Lord would comeback or even on what happens in future but
rest assured that fiat will become e-currencies and crypto would just still remain alternative.

[THX 1138]

Relaying as an impartial messenger:

As I expected, Libra will be aligned with the coming strong dollar vortex to force adoption as all other currencies collapse:

Facebook recently announced that their new cryptocurrency, the Libra, will be primarily backed by the dollar. Half of Libra’s reserves will be covered by the USD while the other 50% will include a basket of currencies including the yen, Singapore dollar, euro, and sterling. Notably omitted is the Chinese yuan, which many believe was a strategic move to allow the digital coin to operate more freely within the US. Libra is set to launch next year, despite some strong opposition.

Remember Libra will be controlled by the powers-that-be via the Libra Foundation which is a consortium of the major multinational banks and tech companies.

Don’t forget that my thesis is the powers-that-be which created Bitcoin, will destroy the official Bitcoin Core (which is actually an impostor and not the real Bitcoin) at the halving in May 2020, to discredit decentralized cryptocurrency by blaming the miners for “stealing” the SegWit “anyone can spend” donations. Since the powers-that-be have surreptitious backdoors in all CPUs in all our computers (encryption is thus useless in many cases!), own the mass media, provided the funding for Blockstream (aka Core), created Bitcoin, and created Facebook via funding from the CIA, they are masterminding this dog & pony circus to fool the public as they erect the one world 666 currency with the medium-of-exchange to be Libra, and the unit-of-account to be eventually shifted (from primarily the U.S. dollar) to primarily the legacy (aka real) Bitcoin later perhaps ~2026 when they’re ready to devalue the U.S. dollar and complete their enslavement plan. The powers-that-be do not need to control Bitcoin as they will control the levers on the medium-of-exchange and the backings for it. Besides they likely also surreptitiously control the mining of Bitcoin since they can print fiat at-will.

For those not familiar with my entire thesis and the reasons for the coming strong dollar vortex visit my blogs and also my other threads on this forum.

The dark curtain of globalized human enslavement is descending upon us. The national security agencies and governments are criminal enterprises run by the powers-that-be who control this world from behind the curtain. Remember the Bible says in Romans that we get the government we deserve, and most all of us have forsaken the Lord’s warning in 1 Samuel 8 to not serve two masters. How can the people ask for a King (aka government) to rule over them and not expect to be enslaved by the Beast who these powers-that-be work for.

Tangentially I had warned Kik that the powers-that-be would destroy all ICOs and all attempts to compete at providing a global medium-of-exchange:

https://business.financialpost.com/technology/waterloo-based-kik-shuts-down-signature-app-lays-off-staff-amid-cryptocurrency-legal-battle

Here were some of my numerous warnings:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2220350.msg22460420#msg22460420
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1218399.msg21461403#msg21461403
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1397810.msg14382356#msg14382356
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802353.msg17978751#msg17978751

The coming global monetary reset must be fiat not precious metals:

There will NEVER be such a [global monetary] reset that returns to a gold standard. There is absolutely no likelihood of that happening, for it would mean that socialism has come to an end. There could be no unfunded promises, pensions, etc. It is just total nonsense.

[Wind_FURY]

Don’t forget that my thesis is the powers-that-be which created Bitcoin,

Questionable. That's your conspiracy theory/opinion/assumption.

will destroy the official Bitcoin Core (which is actually an impostor and not the real Bitcoin)

Only for you, and some minor part of the community. Plus Bitcoin Core is a repository. There's no cryptocurrency called "Bitcoin Core".

at the halving in May 2020, to discredit decentralized cryptocurrency by blaming the miners for “stealing” the SegWit “anyone can spend” donations.

Then the network will split, and coins in your chain will be worthless. You will be very lucky if exchanges list your altcoin.

Since the powers-that-be have surreptitious backdoors in all CPUs in all our computers (encryption is thus useless in many cases!),

Haha. Bitcoin should then be the last thing we should worry about.

own the mass media, provided the funding for Blockstream (aka Core), created Bitcoin, and created Facebook via funding from the CIA, they are masterminding this dog & pony circus to fool the public as they erect the one world 666 currency with the medium-of-exchange to be Libra, and the unit-of-account to be eventually shifted (from primarily the U.S. dollar) to primarily the legacy (aka real) Bitcoin later perhaps ~2026 when they’re ready to devalue the U.S. dollar and complete their enslavement plan. The powers-that-be do not need to control Bitcoin as they will control the levers on the medium-of-exchange and the backings for it. Besides they likely also surreptitiously control the mining of Bitcoin since they can print fiat at-will.

No comment. That's actually a good story. Thanks for writing it.

[THX 1138]

Impartially relaying a response.

As you may have noticed, I often ignore you lately. It’s difficult to argue with an idiot, because of they are incapable of grasping certain basic issues.

Don’t forget that my thesis is the powers-that-be which created Bitcoin,

Questionable. That's your conspiracy theory/opinion/assumption.

It all fits together. For example, the clearly intentional way Satoshi handled the block size limit issue which I have already discussed in great detail in the “Long-term advance notice” thread (discussion I will not repeat again here, even if you reply attempting to incite me to). The master-minding of the transaction volume scalability weakness (revolving around block size), with Satoshi sheepishly providing the idea for offchain HTLCs as an implicit solution, then the banksters (JP Morgan, Goldman, etc) investing in Blockstream to make it so which resulted in the SegWit P2SH which is a Bitcoin address that is “anyone can spend” in the legacy Bitcoin protocol, etc, etc, etc...

There’s nobody else who had the master-minded/pre-planning capability and motivation to pull this off.  Notice also how the mass-media which they own has been intimately involved in this process.

Btw, I pointed out some of these (and other) issues to Peter Wuille et al at the Bitcoin Stack Exchange and he did not reply.

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/57275/could-miners-possibly-steal-segwit-transactions-on-the-real-bitcoin
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/85650/htlcs-dont-work-for-micropayments#comment100817_85694
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/85650/htlcs-dont-work-for-micropayments#comment100825_85696

Note the specific comments I addressed to Peter Wuille about P2SH and SegWit have apparently been deleted. He also never replied. Peter Wuille appears to possibly be a covert agent.

will destroy the official Bitcoin Core (which is actually an impostor and not the real Bitcoin)

Only for you, and some minor part of the community. Plus Bitcoin Core is a repository. There's no cryptocurrency called "Bitcoin Core".

That repository maintained predominantly by Blockstream (aka Core) contains the code for a soft fork which has different protocol rules than the legacy Bitcoin. Therefore when the difference in those rules are challenged, the two protocols will fork off from each other. Thus there are two Bitcoin cryptocurrencies running side-by-side for now regardless of what anyone choose to name them, for as long as the difference in those rules about P2SH and SegWit being “anyone can spend” are not challenged. When that difference of protocol rules is challenged (probably this May 2020 at the halving if Craig Wright keeps his promise/warning), then the Core protocol will fork off because it will reject the legacy Bitcoin protocol miners spending the “anyone can spend” SegWit BTC to themselves as donations. The said difference in protocols and that both protocols are still running side-by-side are undeniable facts. Naming politics have nothing to do with the fact that both legacy (those that start with a 1) and SegWit addresses (those that start with a 3) are interoperable in Bitcoin until the two protocols are forced to fork off from each other.

With that comment, your previously well established average IQ is shining dull again. I refer you to the following remedial education:

http://trilema.com/2018/how-to-piss-me-the-fuck-off-a-guide/

Of course you will not comprehend the above linked blog article because it is written by a man with ~145 IQ and intended to be read by those who have an above average IQ.

at the halving in May 2020, to discredit decentralized cryptocurrency by blaming the miners for “stealing” the SegWit “anyone can spend” donations.

Then the network will split, and coins in your chain will be worthless. You will be very lucky if exchanges list your altcoin.

Most of the exchanges, Bakkt and most of the Bitcoin ecosystem will be bankrupted because they hodl in SegWit addresses instead of legacy, even though I have attempted to warn them through their official support channels but they ignore me. The future actions of bankrupted exchanges is irrelevant. The OTC exchanges will always be there to serve the $millionaires who are important enough. This attack is going to be as epic as the 2013 Mt. Gox attack when Mt. Gox had 75% of the Bitcoin trading volume. Last I checked 7+ million BTC are stored in SegWit addresses. That’s a humongous booty waiting for the miners to take it.

The fork off is asymmetrical in favor of the legacy Bitcoin. This was already discussed and explained in great detail in the “Long-term advance notice” thread. In short, those who hodl legacy addresses receive both legacy BTC and a free airdrop of the SegWit BTC after the fork off. Whereas, the hodlers of SegWit addresses only receive the SegWit BTC after the fork off.

Since some of those who receive the free airdrop will sell them, then the airdropped side of the fork always declines in price relative to the side that retained both the original plus the free airdrop.

Additionally I believe the powers-that-be will drive the Bitcoin price sky-high to $50,000+ before the May 2020 halving in order to make the systemic hashrate and thus mining difficulty sky-high. So when they attack, the price of all cryptocurrencies will crash. Thus the Bitcoin Core protocol blockchain will slow to perhaps 1 block every week. And the difficulty will not reset for perhaps a year or never. The miners will have no choice but to switch to mining the legacy Bitcoin protocol in order to earn enough (from the donations booty) to survive.

Sorry fool. You are wrong. Bitcoin Core will die.

I wonder if Venezuela will be hodling SegWit shitcoins when the Coretards are destroyed by the powers-that-be which funded them? Lol. Seriously though if they hodl legacy BTC, then perhaps the powers-that-be are also intending BTC to give more leverage to Marxist regimes in order to weaken the Monroe Doctrine and help to destabilize Latin America making them ripe for control by a world currency (and eventually world government) system. Decentralized cryptocurrency has also been a financial bonanza for State-supported N.Korean hacker/extortionists. All helping to discredit decentralized cryptocurrency to make way for the centralized Libra Foundation.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-26/venezuela-has-bitcoin-stash-and-doesn-t-know-what-to-do-with-it

[Wind_FURY]

Sorry fool. You are wrong. Bitcoin Core will die.

Add that to the very long list of Bitcoin obituaries. But continue posting your fiction novels. We enjoy them, and some of them can actually spark smart conversations.

[fabiorem]

Sorry fool. You are wrong. Bitcoin Core will die.

Add that to the very long list of Bitcoin obituaries. But continue posting your fiction novels. We enjoy them, and some of them can actually spark smart conversations.

If you read his posts, you will notice that he also implies Bitcoin Legacy will die, as there will be no use case, and no exchange to trade it, being restricted to a small club of whales.

Every conspiracy theorist is against bitcoin. They need evil in power, to sell books about it.

[Wind_FURY]

Sorry fool. You are wrong. Bitcoin Core will die.

Add that to the very long list of Bitcoin obituaries. But continue posting your fiction novels. We enjoy them, and some of them can actually spark smart conversations.

If you read his posts, you will notice that he also implies Bitcoin Legacy will die, as there will be no use case, and no exchange to trade it, being restricted to a small club of whales.

Every conspiracy theorist is against bitcoin. They need evil in power, to sell books about it.

"Bitcoin Legacy" for Shelby is The Real Bitcoin/TRB software. I believe it's derived directly from Satoshi's code, but with some minor fixes, and updates to keep it compatible with the network.

[THX 1138]

Impartially relaying a further reply.

Overconfident, condescending, arrogant and ignorant “Coretards” love to cite USAF, democracy, and claim that the will of the majority has decided that “Core” (aka SegWit/P2SH) supersedes and retires the legacy, Satoshi Bitcoin protocol. First of all, that so called “majority” is not the economic majority (this point was discussed in the “Rogue Wave" thread). The inviolable, natural power-law distribution of wealth insures that the majority who vote only collectively control less than about 20% of the wealth and those wealthy who are only a small minority control the remaining 80% of the wealth. So democracy never decides anything. Rather the wealthy capture the democracy and control the outcome. Ditto in Bitcoin. I could even build a strong case that the signaling, voting and the NY agreement were all manipulated by the powers-that-be for the outcome they are planning wherein they will dupe and fleece the “Coretards” burning their “fingertips up to their armpits.” Ha! As it should be for arrogant, overconfident, boastful, condescending, ignorant blowhards. They walk right into the trap because their hubris blinds them from looking at the situation objectively. We will not know the final decision of the economic majority (i.e. the hodlers and the financiers of mining) until the coming HARD fork off attack.

More importantly perhaps is that if decentralization were to really help humanity then it must ameliorate the depressing situation where the will of the majority is capable of enslaving and subjugating the will of the minority. There should be sufficient degrees-of-freedom so that everyone can pursue their own path.^[1] Thus it is quite natural that as a result of a disagreement over how to handle block size and transaction scaling, that there would be a fork of Bitcoin into multiple competing altcoins. It is thus quite preposterous for the “Coretard” maximalists to claim they have successfully subjugated the legacy Bitcoin, because that claim will not be challenged until the two protocols are forced to HARD fork off (none of this “soft fork” scam nonsense which always will end up in a HARD fork that it should have been from the start) when the two protocols disagree about the state of the block chain (as will be the case when the SegWit “anyone can spend” booty is taken and spent as donations by the legacy Bitcoin protocol miners in the future, perhaps at that May 2020 halving as warned).

Immutability is the only way to provide a stable Schelling point when there would be much contention (aka politics) about competing designs. Otherwise the competing designs would proliferate and the value would be diluted across numerous forks and chaos and collapse would result. Schelling points are a critically important concept in game theory. That is another reason that every fork off (i.e. every change from the legacy original has always been worth-less than the legacy Bitcoin which is still running alongside the “Core” soft fork for the time being). IOW, the current BTC price and value reflects the price and value of legacy Bitcoin, not the “Core” scam soft-fork nonsense. When that Core shit is forced to fork off, it will end up worth-less as has been the case for every attempt to fork Bitcoin.

”Coretard” maximalists (who claim to be able usurp the minority and impose their will against the immutable Schelling point that gives Bitcoin all its value) are going to learn the same lesson that China’s totalitarian ruling oligarchy is about to learn in Hong Kong:

http://archive.is/https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/China-does-not-understand-Hong-Kong-s-leaderless-movement

http://archive.is/https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Hong-Kong-protests/Xinhua-warns-end-is-coming-for-Hong-Kong-protesters

Leaderless movements are resilient because they maximize degrees-of-freedom and thus value creation. Bitcoin is only leaderless as immutable with Satoshi departed. Any attempts to usurp this leaderless Bitcoin will fail.

So the retards with low IQs may try to argue that if the legacy miners take the SegWit “anyone can spend” booty as donations by spending it to themselves, then claiming those legacy Bitcoin miners are leaders and usurping (and thus implying not a leaderless situation). Hey idiots, those miners who take the SegWit donations are protecting the immutability of the protocol (and thus not leading any change, not usurping, and not violating the leaderless situation of a protocol which incentives protection of itself via a poison-pill economic game theory against soft forks). The booty is a poison-pill that finances the successful hard fork thus sustaining the immutable Schelling point that gives Bitcoin all its value. Retards can’t seem to assimilate this concept. They think, “but exchanges, transaction volume scaling, feature improvements, blah blah blah…” Myopic idiots. Legacy Bitcoin is already perfected for its intended future role as the reserve currency backing the upcoming global monetary system comprising significantly Facebook Libra. If you want to create an altcoin with more features for some other purpose, then do not try to usurp Bitcoin’s immutability, because if you do, then the poison-pill game theory of legacy Bitcoin will burn your “fingertips up to your armpits.”

Would you retarded bunny rabbits please get off my lawn and go play with your navel in some other corner of irrelevance.

^[1]_{I was lamenting to my mother what a circus the politics in the USA and West in general have become compared to my youth when the news was anchored by gentlemen such as Walter Cronkite who would soothingly tell us about landing on the moon. Anyway, my mother said she enjoys watching all the political maneuvers, as if it is a sport. But the problem is that politics is not a sport, but rather a long-march, Marxist enslavement paradigm. In my opinion, decentralization technology has the potential to render politics impotent and irrelevant. I believe the true, noble goal for decentralization is to enable civilization to function without politics or with less politics.}

Sorry fool. You are wrong. Bitcoin Core will die.

Add that to the very long list of Bitcoin obituaries […]

Immutable legacy (i.e. Satoshi protocol “v0.1” aka v0.53) Bitcoin will not die. Only the scam “official” (actually the impostor aka “BitcOn”) Bitcoin “Core” will die (i.e. that SegWit P2SH “soft fork” scam, scaling nonsense crap will die). What is the problem with your reading comprehension? Low IQ?

If you read his posts, you will notice that he also implies Bitcoin Legacy will die, as there will be no use case, and no exchange to trade it, being restricted to a small club of whales.

If you read my posts, you will note that I stated a theory the future purpose of legacy Bitcoin appears to be the reserve currency backing for the 666 Libra global currency. Thus in my posited outcome, the legacy Bitcoin would not need popular use, would not need transaction volume scaling, and would not need anyone but $billionaires to use it. The rest of us would be (in the future) using the Bitcoin unit-of-account when we use Libra. The Libra foundation would in the future buy and sell onchain legacy Bitcoin. The users of the upcoming Libra currency would not need to buy and sell onchain Bitcoin because they would transact on the Libra blockchain instead (which since centralized, can be made to easily scale to any transaction volume). I wrote that Libra will in my theoretical outcome be initially predominately backed by the US dollar to drive the strong dollar vortex, but then later (~2026?) when the powers-that-be are ready to devalue the US dollar, they will phase in legacy Bitcoin as the backing reserve for Libra. IOW, with their control of the mass media, the powers-that-be will pretend that Bitcoin has died when they destroy the “official” Bitcoin Core scam which they created. The purpose being to discredit decentralized cryptocurrency so they can usher in their centralized Libra global currency for the dumb, sheepeople masses (like you fool). But in reality, they will continue on using legacy Bitcoin behind-the-scenes (e.g. on OTC exchanges) in the meantime, until they are ready to bring legacy Bitcoin back into the limelight in their controlled mass media.

What is the problem with your reading comprehension? Low IQ? It’s okay if you disagree with my theory, but at least do not incorrectly summarize what I have written.

The strong dollar vortex will accelerate during POTUS Trump’s coming second term. This will cause massive stagflation in the countries other than the USA. Which will force the people of the world (other than U.S. residents) to buy Libra which is appreciating relative to their national currencies, so that they can moderate the inflationary increases in prices of basic goods as priced in their weakening national currencies. I posit this is the masterplan to force the world onto the 666 global currency system.

Then later I posit the powers-that-be will wreck the US dollar too, to complete the global enslavement with Libra+Bitcoin 666 global currency system. Libra will be the medium-of-exchange used by everyone for transactions, and legacy Bitcoin will eventually be the unit-of-account backing Libra but only transacted onchain in legacy Bitcoin by $billionaires.

Is that all too much for your bird brains to comprehend? I mean if you’re going to disagree with the theory, at least don’t fail to assimilate all the details of theory when you make your rebuttal. It’s exhausting to have a discussion with individuals who are so incapable of assimilating what they read.

[hornetsnest]

Lots of Shelby messengers hanging about this thread

[nutildah]

Impartially relaying a further reply.

(Pure lunacy.)

What a fucking nutcase. Why do you all continue to cater to the insatiable ego of this narcissistic sociopath?

THX 1138, it would appear the last time you had an original thought of your own was in October of last year. Perhaps you should consider attempting to grow your own personality instead of continuing to be a gimpy mouthpiece for a certifiable lunatic, year after year.

Shelby BTW I read as much as I could stand of your long-winded shitposty rants you left in my Politics & Society thread about leaving America to move to the Philippines over being disgusted with American politics. You sound like an insufferable primadonna who absolutely objects to attempting assimilation with other cultures and cannot stand to have anything other than their own way 100% of the time. This explains your neverending collection of complaints about the Philippines. The problem is you, not them.

PS: Nothing you've ever predicted about anything has ever come to fruition, ever! You've got to be the wrongest person to have ever inhabited the forum, which is saying quite a lot.

[THX 1138]

THX 1138, it would appear the last time you had an original thought of your own was in October of last year. Perhaps you should consider attempting to grow your own personality instead of continuing to be a gimpy mouthpiece for a certifiable lunatic, year after year.

While it's heartwarming that you have taken the time and trouble to check out my previous posts, you are incorrect in assuming that any original thought I might have had since last October would solely be shared in this echo chamber.

This winged messenger delivers another response.

Nothing you've ever predicted about anything has ever come to fruition, ever! You've got to be the wrongest person to have ever inhabited the forum, which is saying quite a lot.

Incorrect.

Incorrect again:

Relaying as an unbiased messenger:

In summary, Bitcoin will (after this current bounce) soon decline back to the “21 EMA” level (~$8500 or below as was the case in June 2013), then slowly climb over $13k by Jan 2020, and then the pattern of 2013 will repeat with a moonshot before the May 2020 halving event which will mimic the price action of 2013:

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/1QSGColK-My-Secret-Chart-For-When-To-To-Buy-Bitcoin-In-A-Bullish-Trend/
https://twitter.com/JacobCanfield/status/1164185278262718464/photo/1

And incorrect again:

Relaying as an impartial messenger:

Tangentially I had warned Kik that the powers-that-be would destroy all ICOs and all attempts to compete at providing a global medium-of-exchange:

https://business.financialpost.com/technology/waterloo-based-kik-shuts-down-signature-app-lays-off-staff-amid-cryptocurrency-legal-battle

Here were some of my numerous warnings:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2220350.msg22460420#msg22460420
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1218399.msg21461403#msg21461403
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1397810.msg14382356#msg14382356
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802353.msg17978751#msg17978751

There’s innumerable other examples where I have been correct. Such as when I got banned for multi-posting in the forum screaming to buy Litecoin at $6 and it proceeded to $342. Or when I predicted in 2014 as @anonymint that random code execution would not be ASIC resistant and was recently vindicated.

THX 1138, it would appear the last time you had an original thought of your own was in October of last year. Perhaps you should consider attempting to grow your own personality instead of continuing to be a gimpy mouthpiece for a certifiable lunatic, year after year.

What empowers you to think that you should have any say over what another person does with their account? Why are you so pissed off when someone acts independently from your groupthink?

Also you don’t understand his situation. He was suffering from horrible insomnia (and his doctor was going to potentially addict him to opioids until I intervened), until I advised him to get daily exercise and sunshine (not an easy thing to do in northern UK). Since he works full-time and has added the task of implementing my suggestion (which btw improved his insomnia), he doesn’t have time lately to read and write posts on the forum. You’re a callous, presumptuous asshole.

Shelby BTW I read as much as I could stand of your long-winded shitposty rants you left in my Politics & Society thread about leaving America to move to the Philippines over being disgusted with American politics. You sound like an insufferable primadonna who absolutely objects to attempting assimilation with other cultures and cannot stand to have anything other than their own way 100% of the time. This explains your neverending collection of complaints about the Philippines. The problem is you, not them.

I invite you to come live in the specific squalor community infested with dengue, Tuberculosis, scabies, dysentery and during the Asian Crisis of 1997 when the Filipinos in Mindanao could only eat once a day, boiled grass, salt, and a little bit rice.

You were not here during the hard times. And you did not live where I lived and in the poverty I lived in. I assimilated you dumb fuck. So much so, that I ended up as sick as they were. And they blinded me in one eye. And hit me over the head with hammer. Recently I asked my son where all the Filipino guys I used to know from the area have gone. He told me they are all dead.

You callous, dumb fuck. Meet me in the Philippines and let’s educate you about reality. Where are you in the Philippines? PM me and we will exchange mobile phone numbers.

Hey the Philippines can be an interesting place in the provinces and if you have sufficient funds, are younger and healthier and thus can handle the hot, humid tropical climate without airconditioning. Or if you have sufficient funding to live in an upscale home. But the facts remain that 70% of the population is carrying latent Tuberculosis. Every year that you stay here, your chances of contracting TB (perhaps latent) is ~2–5% (depending on your interaction habits with the locals). And if you send your kids to school here (at least in Davao), then your kids will be very often sick. I know from experience. Ask my kids, who now reside in the USA. Recently Phil Health has been launched, so there may be improvements since my experiences are from the mid-1990s up to about 2012. I am not much aware of what has changed since 2012 because I isolated myself since that time because I was so chronically ill from all the infections I had accumulated in the 2+ decades in the Philippines. Note there are drastic changes in the Philippines from 1990 when I first arrived until now. And drastic differences between for example Manila and Mindanao. When I first arrived in Manila in 1990, the were small trash fires burning all along Manila Bay. The poverty was extremely intense even in Manila at that time. Now Manila Bay is lined with high rise, upscale condos.

[darewaller]

@THX 1138
Do I conclude that you are not enough matured and just a kid here, because only kids will be arguing the way you are arguing. One thing you guys should understand is that we are all entitled to our own opinion and at some points , we feel that our own opinion is what matters most, but we just have to be a little bit be able to bend to ours, and when we are arguing, we should arguing maturely, try to reason with the fellow partner and believe the one we need to believes and ignore the one we need to ignore instead of having to call our self-names.

Majority of us are of the opinion that bitcoin is a good technology which is ready to stay for life, and I am sure that if you are to argue with very top intelligent people, they will tell you this same thing, and the fact you don’t believe in bitcoin with all your statement does not mean others don’t.

[milewilda]

Im aint an atheist but i do select this one “666” & Christianity is “bat shit insane” lol

-snip-

This simply shows that you can please anybody yet there would be always an opposition on any comments and insight you would make.

[Wind_FURY]

Overconfident, condescending, arrogant and ignorant “Coretards” love to cite USAF, democracy,

No arrogance shown except yours. Plus what you call the "Coretards" are citing the facts.

and claim that the will of the majority has decided that “Core” (aka SegWit/P2SH) supersedes and retires the legacy, Satoshi Bitcoin protocol.

It's backwards compatible.

Segwit is a malleability fix, plus other fixes first, done through a soft fork. To be accepted or not, the Core developers only laid out the plan.

[THX 1138]

@THX 1138
Do I conclude that you are not enough matured and just a kid here, because only kids will be arguing the way you are arguing. One thing you guys should understand is that we are all entitled to our own opinion and at some points , we feel that our own opinion is what matters most, but we just have to be a little bit be able to bend to ours, and when we are arguing, we should arguing maturely, try to reason with the fellow partner and believe the one we need to believes and ignore the one we need to ignore instead of having to call our self-names.

Majority of us are of the opinion that bitcoin is a good technology which is ready to stay for life, and I am sure that if you are to argue with very top intelligent people, they will tell you this same thing, and the fact you don’t believe in bitcoin with all your statement does not mean others don’t.

As a seemingly self-appointed member of the "very top intelligent people" I was a little surprised you didn't identify Nutildah's contribution as immature, though it does seem somewhat consistent with the jumbled logic evident in the rest of your statement. I believe my response to his remarks were measured and reasonable, considering I was being instructed to "grow my personality"; if admittedly peppered with a little sarcasm. If I'm also to make a conclusion, it is that in addition to perceptive observations and analysis, this thread also displays an unhealthy degree confirmation bias, condescension, and also aggression towards non ingroup posters. Consensus does not necessarily imply veracity.

[fabiorem]

THX 1138 is just a fake account of Shelby. Get over yourselves and stop losing time with this bear.

[THX 1138]

THX 1138 is just a fake account of Shelby. Get over yourselves and stop losing time with this bear.

That is a very lame response. Are you simply lazy, or a troll? Examine if you will my use of language compared to Shelby's. Go back to my pre-October 2018 posts (if you can be arsed), to contrast and compare; maybe even run some anti-plagiarism software used by colleges. First of all, it should be blindingly evident that I'm not American. But believe what you want to believe, mate.

[Heimer]

Whoa! That escalated quickly... Trump, Israel, Facebook and biblical plagues... Libra and Facebook are pretty bad but don't get carried away by your own fantasies. Orwellian dystopia is not going here any time soon 

[fabiorem]

Whoa! That escalated quickly... Trump, Israel, Facebook and biblical plagues... Libra and Facebook are pretty bad but don't get carried away by your own fantasies. Orwellian dystopia is not going here any time soon 

In any case, if you want a orwellian dystopia, you can always go to Reddit.

[Wind_FURY]

@THX 1138
Do I conclude that you are not enough matured and just a kid here, because only kids will be arguing the way you are arguing. One thing you guys should understand is that we are all entitled to our own opinion and at some points , we feel that our own opinion is what matters most, but we just have to be a little bit be able to bend to ours, and when we are arguing, we should arguing maturely, try to reason with the fellow partner and believe the one we need to believes and ignore the one we need to ignore instead of having to call our self-names.

Majority of us are of the opinion that bitcoin is a good technology which is ready to stay for life, and I am sure that if you are to argue with very top intelligent people, they will tell you this same thing, and the fact you don’t believe in bitcoin with all your statement does not mean others don’t.

As a seemingly self-appointed member of the "very top intelligent people" I was a little surprised you didn't identify Nutildah's contribution as immature, though it does seem somewhat consistent with the jumbled logic evident in the rest of your statement. I believe my response to his remarks were measured and reasonable, considering I was being instructed to "grow my personality"; if admittedly peppered with a little sarcasm. If I'm also to make a conclusion, it is that in addition to perceptive observations and analysis, this thread also displays an unhealthy degree confirmation bias, condescension, and also aggression towards non ingroup posters. Consensus does not necessarily imply veracity.

There's no "unhealthy degree of confirmation bias". It's only you gaslighting, and hoping that you can mislead as much readers as you can. Your posts are old anti-Bitcoin narratives/propaganda already heard. Be original.

[THX 1138]

Relaying another message:

Martin Armstrong wrote:

This is an important point because as governments today try to eliminate their currency in the hunt for taxes, people are hoarding US dollars exactly as the Japanese began to hoard Chinese coins. Governments should look well at what they are proposing for they can lose the confidence of the people and they will lose the right to issue money. They only way to prevent hoarding requires a universal abandonment of all currencies and their replacement with a single electronic one-world currency. But that system will fail like the Euro for a single currency imports and exports the inflation or deflation from the core economy. Not all nations are on the same side of the business cycle.

The powers-that-be know this. And that is precisely why they are going to launch Libra and back it with dollars as the strong dollar vortex (along with sovereign debt crises, separatist movements, etc) burns the global economy down over the next few years.

As I explained in a recent prior post in this thread, the people in countries that don’t use the dollar as their local currency, will be experiencing stagflation as the dollar becomes very, very strong after 2020/21. So they will choose to convert their local currency to Libra instead which will be rising in value along with the dollar which will back Libra (a fully backed peg to the dollar).

And indeed when the powers-that-be later (2026 or 2032?) replace the dollar backing of Libra with significantly a legacy Bitcoin backing, this will destroy the ability of nation-states to control their own monetary policy. This is thus a 666 enslavement mechanism, that will cause nations to be perpetually bankrupt analogous to how the Euro was created to enslave Greece and the PIIGS.

@THX 1138, Do I conclude that you are not enough matured and just a kid here, because only kids will be arguing the way you are arguing.

Seems you entirely failed to even notice that @THX 1138 was relaying a message from me. You have ostensibly incorrectly attributed my written words to him. Which is the first example of your very sloppy reading comprehension. Below is another example of you inability to comprehend what you read…

Majority of us are of the opinion that bitcoin is a good technology which is ready to stay for life, and I am sure that if you are to argue with very top intelligent people, they will tell you this same thing, and the fact you don’t believe in bitcoin with all your statement does not mean others don’t.

How did you fail to read that I wrote that the legacy Bitcoin will not be adversely affected? Only the impostor (i.e. fake) Bitcoin Core (which most witless and pointless bunny rabbits like you think is the official Bitcoin) will die.

Broken clocks have a far better forecasting record than this narcissist dipshit.

You’ll be hiding beyond an anonymous username when this prediction ends up eventually correct. So you have no reputation at stake. You will simply scurry away and hide under a rock when I am correct.

BTW, I lived in Mindanao too you jackass.

You’re a habitual liar and troll also (perhaps even paid by the powers-that-be). Again hiding behind an anonymous username. You’re attempting to derail the thread so that readers will not be able to protect themselves from what is coming. And readers won’t be able to blame you for your subversive activities in the future when they’ve lost all their BTC thus realizing my warning was correct, because you will have been hiding behind an anonymous username.

There's no "unhealthy degree of confirmation bias". It's only you gaslighting, and hoping that you can mislead as much readers as you can. Your posts are old anti-Bitcoin narratives/propaganda already heard. Be original.

The DAO attacker explained your delusion:

Pointless : If you put your hand in the woodchipper you'll die.
Witless #n+1 : You're just jealous because your hands[arms] aren't as long as mine. We'll see who dies first!

[Wind_FURY]

The DAO attacker explained your delusion:

My delusion? But I'm with the norm, I'm a sheep remember? My delusion is also the mass delusion of most, which makes it reality.

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Passing along another message:

As I expected, Zuckerberg tries to claim that backing Libra predominantly with dollars is beneficial for the USA (which is in fact not true because the coming strong dollar vortex is going to be catastrophic for the USA), paints China as the bogeyman that will launch a competitor backed by Yuan if regulators don’t approve Libra, and he even has the audacity to imply that some regulation by the USA on Libra Foundation could somehow prevent them from later changing the reserve backing (to as I expect legacy Bitcoin no later than 2032):

https://youtu.be/SS4QPauQC8k

https://youtu.be/_SxME8nvUmw

https://youtu.be/VYmWxrHE2BY

And the strategy appears to be working:

https://youtu.be/HpG7JwNOKD4

https://cointelegraph.com/news/breaking-chinas-xi-jinping-urges-accelerated-blockchain-technology-adoption

https://youtu.be/Lcbg3-0oQUA?t=1133

https://u.today/crypto-thought-leaders-say-us-should-embrace-blockchain-asap-following-china

The party lines solidify

One major shift is that the Democrats and Republicans of the committee have largely fallen into their respective camps on an issue that, when it first came to their attention, seemed to cross party bounds. At the hearing yesterday, Republicans muted their earlier criticism of Libra as a potential threat to customer data safety and, while still eager to maintain the dominance of the U.S. dollar, it did seem that Facebook and the Libra Association had successfully turned Chinese innovation into Republicans’ biggest fear.

Cointelegraph reported on Zuckerberg’s argument about China yesterday. He expressed a slip in optimism over the past decade towards China’s ability to participate in an open global tech. He told McHenry that, “Today, six out of 10 of the top tech companies are coming out of China and certainly don’t share our values.” Republicans seemed to agree, and their stated concerns about stifling American innovation took on the urgency in tone of national security.

Democrats found the threat from China unconvincing.

It’s all proceeding according to the 666 plan as I “anticipated”. 

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It’s all proceeding according to the 666 plan as I “anticipated”.

Good luck Nostradamus. Libra will never, EVER launch. The "666 planners" would have to take another path. The government wouldn't be stupid enough to allow a group of powerful tech-companies to play the role of the Federal Reserve.