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June 24, 2019, 01:41:27 PM Last edit: June 26, 2019, 08:08:33 PM by cryptovigi |
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Why is it so hard to find 20k people from the USA and Canada who want to get $ 500 coins for free?
Probably many of you have already heard about airdrop (or maybe rather earndrop - that name they call it) of ENERGI coin - NRG. For those who have not heard, I will give you only 5 pieces of information that should be enough to get interest it this topic: 1. Energi coin exists already in cryptospace for over a year! 2. It has very high 81th position on the coinmarketcap! 3. It is listed on 4 exchanges (including KuCoin and DigiFinex)! 4. The current marketcap is over 100 million dollars! 5. According to todays rate - the expected airdrop value is about $570 per person!Does it look good? In my opinion, it looks very good!
If so, I'm asking again: "Why is it so hard to find 20k people who want to get $500 for free?". Ok now (in the round 2) only residents USA and Canada can take part it, but in this two countries lives over 360 million of people - after all, it is only 0.0056%, so that is enough that for every 18,000 peple registerd only one !!! So why after many weeks since the program started are still lacking 5,500 participants??? The only explanation may be people's fear of KYC but in the case of Energi KYC is very simplified and secure - no one asks you to send all the data from an ID such as date of birth, address, insurance number or other ... YOU ONLY NEED TO TAKE A SELFIE HOLDING YOUR IDENTITY DOCUMENT ON WHICH ONLY THE NAME MUST BE VISIBLE - ALL OTHER DATA CAN BE COVERED/SHADED ETC. As is written on energi site: " A selfie holding your government issued ID only showing your picture and name (you can edit the rest out on your computer, or cover it up with post it notes/tape)." So sending such a photo does not result in the loss of security in addition to the coin of the first 100 coinmarketcap quoted on exchanges for a year, so it is immediately known that there is no scam ... So why do not americans and canadians want to accept free safe money ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Any ideas??? edit1: Price of energi just broke $6 for coin so value of the airdrop is over $600 today!!! edit2: the price broke $8 so now we're talking about $800 ;-) edit3: increase in the rate of the coin to almost $ 10 (and the potential value of airdrop up to $1000) probably convinced many potential participants (close to 3,000 new peple joined the program in two days), there are about 2,000 places still left
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Iykecollins
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June 24, 2019, 02:42:17 PM |
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People from those areas are better engaged and busier than those from Asia and poor African countries that see crypto as one of the way out, besides a lot of persons would not want to give out their details in the name of KYC just for that sake. Identify theft is a thing of concern in the US
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June 24, 2019, 02:49:00 PM |
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It's simple, they don't want to share KYC for 500USD Their documents worth more than that
500USD is not so much money for USA and Canada citizens
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cryptovigi (OP)
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June 24, 2019, 05:10:23 PM |
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It's simple, they don't want to share KYC for 500USD Their documents worth more than that
500USD is not so much money for USA and Canada citizens
I would agree if it would by full KYC with some important data but they ENERGI makes only simply KYC only with name... Do you think that giving only the name like for example "John Smith" is also dangerous? I will be grateful for any opinion on that matter.
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June 24, 2019, 05:20:11 PM |
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Maybe you have to up your stake or give away like $2,000. With such amount, you will be surprised you won't get influx of people coming in. The reason is simply, KYC involves disclosing personal information and survival rate in the countries is high. The economy is robust, so they won't just sell out like that without proper thinking.
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June 24, 2019, 05:21:08 PM |
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People from those areas are better engaged and busier than those from Asia and poor African countries,
I guess you are from Africa from your grammatical expression, and you must know today that free money is free money everywhere and that man is man everywhere. The only problem here is the issue of KYC as this tends to pose a threat to life> Try to get a good engagement on this forum, it helps,
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June 24, 2019, 05:33:14 PM |
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Because identity theft is destructive to the victim. All are just very cautious about these KYc warning. A slip of Social security number can give access to everything. Besides your offer is too god to be true. Seeing an offer like $500 up fro grabs free? But then found out they need to provide government documents, only those who are really in need for the next meal on the table are the ones going to grab them.
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cryptovigi (OP)
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June 24, 2019, 09:27:20 PM |
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Because identity theft is destructive to the victim. All are just very cautious about these KYc warning. A slip of Social security number can give access to everything.
Totally agree but in this case the only one required is name (no birthdate, no address no security ID) that's what I was asking about - do you think that giving someon else only the name is also dangerous? Besides your offer is too god to be true. Seeing an offer like $500 up fro grabs free? But then found out they need to provide government documents, only those who are really in need for the next meal on the table are the ones going to grab them.
This offer is really good but when it's started 1 NRG coin rate was closer to $1. Now thanks to last months bullrun it grew up to $6 today so the same amount of tokens is worth much more than on start. Of course now the Energi team claims that there will be no other KYC procedure than sending this photo. Eventually if they change their mind anyone can just left his tokens and go away...
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June 24, 2019, 10:41:06 PM |
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Totally agree but in this case the only one required is name (no birthdate, no address no security ID) that's what I was asking about - do you think that giving someon else only the name is also dangerous? Besides your offer is too god to be true. Seeing an offer like $500 up fro grabs free? But then found out they need to provide government documents, only those who are really in need for the next meal on the table are the ones going to grab them.
But still required gov.id, name and photo. They might still don't want to give it. American really valuing their privacy very high (maybe too much) Of course they will feel something fishy when someone tell them will get $500 from uploading gov.id, they will think the id will be sold to terrorist lol. While we know it just for proving u r human
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June 24, 2019, 10:42:12 PM |
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I'm from the US. I make more than enough where there is no way in hell im giving up my ID in any way, shape, or form for $500
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June 24, 2019, 10:46:49 PM |
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$500 is not the worth of their kyc. That's very simple, right? Even though it's free, unless if the said coin has high potential to increase in value, let's say 100 times its value now.
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June 24, 2019, 11:16:39 PM |
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I'm actually kind of surprised that more folks haven't taken part in this -- basically because tons of folks in other places gladly gave away their kyc info for like $50 in free stellar tokens.
Here it just requires a photo and name. And nobody even says you have to use your real name (magic of photoshop).
I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing to take part in this. But compared to other freebie offers folks have taken part in, this one seems pretty benign in comparison.
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June 25, 2019, 01:54:10 AM |
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I'm actually kind of surprised that more folks haven't taken part in this -- basically because tons of folks in other places gladly gave away their kyc info for like $50 in free stellar tokens.
Here it just requires a photo and name. And nobody even says you have to use your real name (magic of photoshop).
I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing to take part in this. But compared to other freebie offers folks have taken part in, this one seems pretty benign in comparison.
Well first of all i'd say 95% of "bounty hunters" on this forum are from 3rd world countries where the meager bounties they earn can support their cost of living. If you have a job in a 1st world country you will never be taking part of these shitty bounties. The only 2 XLM giveaways I know of are the ones run by Coinbase and Blockchain.info, both reputable companies that have been in the crypto scene for a long time. Many already did their KYC with coinbase as you need it to trade, and I'd say the majority of those willing to KYC for the blockchain.info giveaway are either planning on using their exchange or again from a 3rd world country.
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June 25, 2019, 02:14:13 AM |
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If someone gives us a proposal KYC will get $ 500 free from a project that we have never studied, never believed, surely we will say no. $ 500 seems to be a small amount, but it is nothing compared to the amount that you could lose on exchange if unfortunately your information is leaked.
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June 25, 2019, 05:50:15 PM |
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I'm actually kind of surprised that more folks haven't taken part in this -- basically because tons of folks in other places gladly gave away their kyc info for like $50 in free stellar tokens.
Here it just requires a photo and name. And nobody even says you have to use your real name (magic of photoshop).
I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing to take part in this. But compared to other freebie offers folks have taken part in, this one seems pretty benign in comparison.
Well first of all i'd say 95% of "bounty hunters" on this forum are from 3rd world countries where the meager bounties they earn can support their cost of living. If you have a job in a 1st world country you will never be taking part of these shitty bounties. The only 2 XLM giveaways I know of are the ones run by Coinbase and Blockchain.info, both reputable companies that have been in the crypto scene for a long time. Many already did their KYC with coinbase as you need it to trade, and I'd say the majority of those willing to KYC for the blockchain.info giveaway are either planning on using their exchange or again from a 3rd world country. Giving info to blockchain is what I referred to earlier. And I agree, you'd think only 3rd world country people (or those who really, really need money) would partake in that sort of giveaway in exchange for their KYC info. But I also frequent other forums not related to crypto too (not sure if we are allowed to mention other forums here) ... places that cover bargains, deals, banking bonuses and so on. And tons of people on those sites signed up for the blockchain giveaway. It seemed weird to me at the time, and those folks certainly aren't hurting for money either. But folks do offer up their info for a measly $50 quite often, and it's not solely folks who plan to use an exchange or basically have no income at all. As for this offer, I would hesitate to even call it KYC. You need a name and photo, that's it. No personal information, no address, no social, nothing really. And as I stated earlier, there is also nothing stopping anyone from flexing their photoshop muscles and altering their name on their ID either. So basically you give up your photo to take part in this.... a grainy photo perhaps not even associated with your real name. I tend to be a little paranoid giving my info out, but even to me that seems like a pretty safe form of 'KYC'.
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June 26, 2019, 01:42:28 AM |
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I think not everyone wish to give their document to third party for $500, currently still need 3500 participants to end round 2 airdrop. No matter what is the price of energi now, I'm sure that price will dump a lot when team distribution airdrop tokens. The distribution for Round 2 (USA & Canada), 3 (EU, AUS & NZ) and 4 (Global) will begin once rounds 2-4 are completed
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June 26, 2019, 01:57:12 AM |
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I'm actually kind of surprised that more folks haven't taken part in this -- basically because tons of folks in other places gladly gave away their kyc info for like $50 in free stellar tokens.
Maybe the "folks" you're talking about are not from US and CA. As for this offer, I would hesitate to even call it KYC. You need a name and photo, that's it. No personal information, no address, no social, nothing really.
First,KYC is just an abbreviation of "Know Your Customer" (I don't think I'm making learn anything new lol) but the fact that a name and a photo is enough to "Know your customer" we can definetely call this KYC.Secondly, a name and a photo is enough to find the person's address and possibily other personal informations.Also,you're talking about photoshop.. The time that an American or Canadian will waste on learning how to photoshop and pull off this KYC with success he can earn way more than 500$ lol..
That being said, If I were an US/CA citizen I probably won't be interested in this as well I would prefer flip some burgers for the same earning and not risk doing this process ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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June 26, 2019, 02:11:00 AM |
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It's simple, they don't want to share KYC for 500USD Their documents worth more than that
500USD is not so much money for USA and Canada citizens
Yeah, I agree but if they offer it internationally or make it an open offer, that 5000 participants will be fill up in just a matter of days 2 or 3 days with the huge number of people going for airdrops, another reason is the marketing, it seems they are not posting it in a market that are mostly US citizen.
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June 26, 2019, 02:15:40 AM |
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I'm actually kind of surprised that more folks haven't taken part in this -- basically because tons of folks in other places gladly gave away their kyc info for like $50 in free stellar tokens.
Maybe the "folks" you're talking about are not from US and CA. As for this offer, I would hesitate to even call it KYC. You need a name and photo, that's it. No personal information, no address, no social, nothing really.
First,KYC is just an abbreviation of "Know Your Customer" (I don't think I'm making learn anything new lol) but the fact that a name and a photo is enough to "Know your customer" we can definetely call this KYC.Secondly, a name and a photo is enough to find the person's address and possibily other personal informations.Also,you're talking about photoshop.. The time that an American or Canadian will waste on learning how to photoshop and pull off this KYC with success he can earn way more than 500$ lol..
That being said, If I were an US/CA citizen I probably won't be interested in this as well I would prefer flip some burgers for the same earning and not risk doing this process ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) To the best of my knowledge, many or most were from the US (in reference to the other forum I was referring to, where folks jumped on the stellar offer). Typically they'd be discussing US bank bonus/promotions, so unlikely they'd be from a 3rd world country with no income. I didn't mean my post to sound like folks should sign up for this, by the way. I just meant it seemed weird to me that other giveaways didn't have a problem finding people -- the stellar giveaway required much more info and paid out a lot less too. A name and photo is a form of KYC, of course, but it's certainly less info than most exchanges or sites typically ask for. I half expect exchanges to ask for blood and dna samples next... they go way overboard. I also assumed most going for this sort of giveaway were just going to use a fake name -- I mean it takes like 10 seconds to edit a photo. Fake name + blurry photo isn't going to be much of a risk... unless hackers want to steal the identity of a lot of John and Jane Does out there... But perhaps that's it -- I tend to be paranoid and think anyone even trying to do this would safeguard themselves with a fake name, fake FB, fake twitter and so on. It'd take a couple of minutes for like $500+, but I guess others just assume KYC means full ID, address, social, and they have real FB accounts, so too big a risk. So for anyone being honest, yeah, I can see why they'd avoid doing this.
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June 26, 2019, 03:58:46 AM |
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I think not everyone wish to give their document to third party for $500, currently still need 3500 participants to end round 2 airdrop. No matter what is the price of energi now, I'm sure that price will dump a lot when team distribution airdrop tokens. The distribution for Round 2 (USA & Canada), 3 (EU, AUS & NZ) and 4 (Global) will begin once rounds 2-4 are completed
Expect to see that coming when distributions already been started, the value for this coin will foo deeper as hunters will take the opportunities to sell the coin within this decent amounts, most of them will not try holding the coin since bitcoin is rallying up, and regarding to US and canadian citizens they are sensitive with their personal informations as they can easily earn such amount so they will not entertain this types of airdrops.
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