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June 26, 2019, 01:00:00 PM
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This thing can happen around the world, because there are so many people have to struggle with their lives. We don't have in their positions to judge what they did is right or wrong. It's too easy to judge everything when are not them and stucked in their terrible conditions. By posting this news, I just want to raise two main points:
- If we can not give others a hand, we should not destroy them. It is especially true if they just try to do something for their lives, for their families, in legal ways.
- The last image caught of two migrants presents a big love between them. That actually made me crying a little bit, honestly, because look at them I remember my father and his big love for me.

Anyway, this event is another sadly thing happened after what we saw with Syrian kid's death years ago.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/25/photo-drowned-migrant-daughter-rio-grande-us-mexico-border?fbclid=IwAR0IZl7tEJoMBgqWLM4f_pKzw2RdQeYKoQx5dKOUHDzSG2f6GU5FCar3ltE

I locked because I don't think I should discuss about it.

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Did you ever stop to think that perhaps encouraging them to come here is what is causing them to put their lives at risk to cross illegally?
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June 26, 2019, 01:05:47 PM
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Did you ever stop to think that perhaps encouraging them to come here is what is causing them to put their lives at risk to cross illegally?
I don't think his decision is what he should do, but sometimes when people struggle with things, they might make wrong decisions. It also reminds what human civilization witnessed many years ago, boat people wave. By now, we have seen lots of children, grandchilren of those boat people contributed positively, and significantly. No one want to put their lives at risks if they see lights at end of tunnels. The boat people is the term originated decades ago, back in 1970s or 1980s, those boat people 'illegally' to escape from their nations, and waited for hands of others. Taking such risks is likely light as they thought.

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Did you ever stop to think that perhaps encouraging them to come here is what is causing them to put their lives at risk to cross illegally?
I don't think his decision is what he should do, but sometimes when people struggle with things, they might make wrong decisions. It also reminds what human civilization witnessed many years ago, boat people wave. By now, we have seen lots of children, grandchilren of those boat people contributed positively, and significantly. No one want to put their lives at risks if they see lights at end of tunnels. Taking such risks is likely light as they thought.

I guess my point is the reason many of these people attempt the journey is because they are told it is acceptable for them to make the trip, and if they get here they will get all kinds of free stuff. IMO they are being used to manipulate voting demographics and encouraged to vote illegally, hence there is incentive for people to encourage them to make this dangerous trip. If the incentive to come here is removed, such as ending entitlement programs, they are less likely to make the dangerous journey. Additionally, how will their home countries ever get any better if all the best and the brightest are constantly leaving? How many illegal immigrants must the US absorb before it is enough? We already take more immigrants in than any other nation in the world. If this continues the USA is going to become no different than the nations these people are fleeing from.
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June 26, 2019, 01:24:02 PM
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We already take more immigrants in than any other nation in the world. If this continues the USA is going to become no different than the nations these people are fleeing from.
It is undeniable facts, and I don't say the USA should (or should not) absorb more immigrants, not only from Mexico, but also others. What I want to raise is in other aspect of our society, there are people struggle with their lives, and if we can not help them, just leave them try to live (if they don't do illegal things). There are kinds of people whom want to critisize, and just find flaws of others, but don't give their hands to others; even when they don't really know what really happens with others, and which kind of consequences to others with their acts. That's what I meant.

In another story, there are two young scientists whom found that one prominent old scientists made fake data for lots of his research and articles; then they wrote some articles and sent to publishers just to demonstrate that they are right with their findings; prove facts; and partially to prove that they are smart. They not only wanted publishers to silently take down all published articles of the old researcher, but want to move further by publicly publish their findings on famous journals.
Of course, all articles of old researcher took down, but at the end, he suicided. IMO, it's not what two young scientists wanted at beginnings, and they even said in interviews that they did not think all things will ended that way. They just say sorry, that is too late to say sorry.

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June 26, 2019, 02:04:17 PM
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We already take more immigrants in than any other nation in the world. If this continues the USA is going to become no different than the nations these people are fleeing from.
It is undeniable facts, and I don't say the USA should (or should not) absorb more immigrants, not only from Mexico, but also others. What I want to raise is in other aspect of our society, there are people struggle with their lives, and if we can not help them, just leave them try to live (if they don't do illegal things). There are kinds of people whom want to critisize, and just find flaws of others, but don't give their hands to others; even when they don't really know what really happens with others, and which kind of consequences to others with their acts. That's what I meant.....

Respectfully, you are talking nonsense.

I invite you, and anyone else who thinks they know the subject from reading it on the internet, to spend two days in that desert between the US and Mexico.

Then there's only one thing you'll have to say.

"Don't."
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