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June 27, 2019, 02:37:06 PM
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Hello Satoshi

we think that you have created a bitcoin prize competition and that the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. We are trying to solve it and will move the rewarding coins. If you want to add something to that statement, please don't hesitate.

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Hello Satoshi

for a sound development of Bitcoin, we would like to ask you to give us some information on the keys of the early mined coins. It would help the community through making Bitcoin more predictable.

Thank you


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Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0
I would like to ask him these questions, first if he still has control and access to over 1 million bitcoins.
Second, if he has it, does he have plans to sell it?
The biggest question is what he plans on doing with the 1 million bitcoins he mined at the start and what he thinks of all the bitcoin forks.
They are all gone, lets be honest if someone can access 11 Billion dollars and doesn't spend a cent, somethings up. I am 100% under the conclusion he deleted all of his private keys.

It would be very fair to get some information on these issues.

Or it's going to be a 'winner takes it all' game.

Who knows? we would love to know the answer from this question.
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the main assumption is that everytime he debugged his client and updated it, it created a new wallets/files and be didnt back up the previous
take this quote that shows early versions needed backing up entire folders.
imagine backing up a folder every time you edited a line of code

4. What files need to be backed up for not losing my "money"? Only the wallet.dat or the whole Bitcoin AppData directory ?
Version 0.1.5: backup the whole %appdata%\Bitcoin directory.
Version 0.2: you can backup just wallet.dat.

satoshi's 'stash' were 50 coins per address which if 1mill coins was accurate would be 20,000 addresses, in numerous folders, if he did backup

remember from january 2009-mid 2010 bitcoin had no value in the real world. it was just a experiment back then so there was no value in keeping the private keys. assumptions were that after a few months of bug fixing everything would be reset and born again. but too many joind and it instead just continued to live and it wasnt until 2010 before h made it simple to backup

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June 27, 2019, 03:27:49 PM
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people who have huge bags in great coins like bitcoin and btc and dash and monero and other great few projects compare to all the 2.8k coins scams outhere.

this kind of people not touch this bags and if yes is to buy home in cash and things like this more then this they try to save and for sure not convert to m0ney paper or gold or diamonds why??

crypto is grow and have max supply compare to all this...get it

there is come startup like zeex from israel when you can buy all the brands with crypto everything and they will be the snow ball effect for other startup in this area where you

dont need to cinvert crypto to money paper you just buy with it...its will happen very fast.

zeex going to explode so hard...i so happy now i can buy brands and drink coffee and fly to other countries with crypto.

whales never ever will sell , and alot of them are activist and work part of the change,,,

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and they never hold everything in one wallet, my btc spread over 10 cold wallets ...and i have very clever way how to store the key of each wallet and not worry to lost them
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June 27, 2019, 04:13:45 PM
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Satoshi,

improve Bitcoin! Don't let people assume that Bitcoin was pre-mined or ninja-mined. Bitcoin can only grow if that will be solved.


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Bitcoin wasn't premined. Because the definition of a premine is when the dev begins mining before the coin is actually released. Satoshi launched Bitcoin in 2009 and all coins were mined after this date.
On the other hand, it could be argued that Bitcoin was ninjamined, albeit unintentionally.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664604.36

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It seems odd to me that many bitcoin supporters consider Satoshi's pre-mined coins to be a personal security risk (to the tune of $200 million), but simultaneously refuse to hold that fact against bitcoin even though "pre-mined" is a common pejorative used to criticize altcoins.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9551217
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June 27, 2019, 04:35:58 PM
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Just put yourself in the mindset that Satoshi might have had when he created those "test" addresses and when he mined those coins in the early experimental year of Bitcoin back in 2009/2010. You release the code and nobody is taking it serious, so you start off by mining some coins and then showcasing how it works to people on anonymous platforms.

It is a chaotic time and you are still ironing out the problems and answering people's questions and also trying to hide your real identity <because it is illegal in most countries to create your own currency>

So what do you do? Record all the private keys and take the risk that you might get raided and that it might be held as evidence against you? Nah, I seriously think Satoshi mined those coins just to get things moving and he did not even bother to "archive" most of the private keys that he/she or they were generating.  Roll Eyes

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June 27, 2019, 04:40:47 PM
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I am just curious if satoshi is still following some topics here about bitcoin or that he is let it all go. If I would had invent such thing like bitcoin I could just disappear.

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I am just curious if satoshi is still following some topics here about bitcoin or that he is let it all go. If I would had invent such thing like bitcoin I could just disappear.

they follow not he Smiley
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June 27, 2019, 05:11:36 PM
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Satoshi,

improve Bitcoin! Don't let people assume that Bitcoin was pre-mined or ninja-mined. Bitcoin can only grow if that will be solved.


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Bitcoin wasn't premined. Because the definition of a premine is when the dev begins mining before the coin is actually released. Satoshi launched Bitcoin in 2009 and all coins were mined after this date.
On the other hand, it could be argued that Bitcoin was ninjamined, albeit unintentionally.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664604.36

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It seems odd to me that many bitcoin supporters consider Satoshi's pre-mined coins to be a personal security risk (to the tune of $200 million), but simultaneously refuse to hold that fact against bitcoin even though "pre-mined" is a common pejorative used to criticize altcoins.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9551217

nothing wrong with premine or with non mineble coins when the team take x amount of coins to them, if this legit project and have great tech(i not talk about scams and shit coins) they deserve this chunk of coins to take ...who will fund them you or greedy people that only for the money in this game while the great teams bring great and bright future ....

they fucking deserve to take 10-15 % from the max supply  in order to fund them self and keep the project going and do other things with the money like  for example

Chelsea E. Manning she is going to receive nice chunk of cryptos,,, to help here she is part of huge underground international even more if something will happen to here ** people need money in order to fight ...i know its sound far away from people who only run after money and dont nothing and live inside small cube inside their head,,,until age 60-70 hit and game over...

so this kind of team deserve to take 15-10% of coins in order to develop the project and fund them self and put food on the table bro and they need this money for other things one example i gave you is Chelsea E. Manning,

but compare to shitty scammers like xrp and the huge supply when the owners hold large portion of the coins and scam everybody that it will hit 10$ which never will happen ** its need to have market cap of 1 trillion alone its all relative which mean bitcoin then will have trillion of trillions of market cap...caradano and digibyte and other huge supply its scam trap ask expert blockchain...

so great team with great tech and great coin must to take 10-15 % to put food on the table and develop the project and use this money for other things,
who will put put food to them on table, who will fund them....the greedy people that run after money and dont give a damn shit about our future

leave satoshi team they deserve to hold this coins for sure and other great teams...compare to you know what





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Satoshi,

improve Bitcoin! Don't let people assume that Bitcoin was pre-mined or ninja-mined. Bitcoin can only grow if that will be solved.


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Bitcoin wasn't premined. Because the definition of a premine is when the dev begins mining before the coin is actually released. Satoshi launched Bitcoin in 2009 and all coins were mined after this date.
On the other hand, it could be argued that Bitcoin was ninjamined, albeit unintentionally.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664604.36

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It seems odd to me that many bitcoin supporters consider Satoshi's pre-mined coins to be a personal security risk (to the tune of $200 million), but simultaneously refuse to hold that fact against bitcoin even though "pre-mined" is a common pejorative used to criticize altcoins.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9551217

reread it so important

nothing wrong with premine or with non mineble coins when the team take x amount of coins to them, if this legit project and have great tech(i not talk about scams and shit coins) they deserve this chunk of coins to take ...who will fund them you or greedy people that only for the money in this game while the great teams bring great and bright future ....

they fucking deserve to take 10-15 % from the max supply  in order to fund them self and keep the project going and do other things with the money like  for example

Chelsea E. Manning she is going to receive nice chunk of cryptos,,, to help here she is part of huge underground international even more if something will happen to here ** people need money in order to fight ...i know its sound far away from people who only run after money and dont nothing and live inside small cube inside their head,,,until age 60-70 hit and game over...

so this kind of team deserve to take 15-10% of coins in order to develop the project and fund them self and put food on the table bro and they need this money for other things one example i gave you is Chelsea E. Manning,

but compare to shitty scammers like xrp and the huge supply when the owners hold large portion of the coins and scam everybody that it will hit 10$ which never will happen ** its need to have market cap of 1 trillion alone its all relative which mean bitcoin then will have trillion of trillions of market cap...caradano and digibyte and other huge supply its scam trap ask expert blockchain...

so great team with great tech and great coin must to take 10-15 % to put food on the table and develop the project and use this money for other things,
who will put put food to them on table, who will fund them....the greedy people that run after money and dont give a damn shit about our future

leave satoshi team they deserve to hold this coins for sure and other great teams...compare to you know what

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June 28, 2019, 01:19:50 PM
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I seriously think Satoshi mined those coins just to get things moving and he did not even bother to "archive" most of the private keys that he/she or they were generating.  Roll Eyes

That would be answer enough.
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Bitcoin was not created by one man. It was a team of highly skilled cryptographers with punk marketers which make it viral with almost zero spend on ads, only uneducated dumb people will think its one person behind this hhhh.


bit coin idea its not new tech its just mixing tech that already exist and created from peer to peer file sharing, because pper to peer file sharing was created way before bitcoin and the reason for peer to peer file sharing(decentralized tech) because central file sharing was pretty fast shut down by governments, because movies,mp3,softwares and other info was hosted on few main servers and its easy to shut down them, so people created peer to peer file sharing and each computer is server that download and upload info and now the governmnets need to shut down more then 500m computers and its impossible.

Peer-to-peer file sharing is the distribution and sharing of digital media using peer-to-peer (P2P) networking technology. P2P file sharing allows users to access media files such as books, music, movies, and games using a P2P software program that searches for other connected computers on a P2P network to locate the desired content.[1] The nodes (peers) of such networks are end-user computers and distribution servers (not required).

Peer-to-peer file sharing technology has evolved through several design stages from the early networks like Napster, which popularized the technology, to the later models like the BitTorrent protocol.

now BITCOIN ** come from this idea just with twist peer to peer money, in order to make this happen they created block--chain between peer a and peer b

peer -- blockchain -- peer

Edward Snowden was speak about peer to peer can make financial freedom way before bitcoin come and few others hhhhh its problem when people greedy and dumb as fuck and the logic function inside the head bro=ke until age 60-70 hit and game over for them....

the founder of ethereum in small conference in israel answer to somebody that ask from where all this info and vitalik answer was , people that know to organize them self over the web.

and its cannot created by fucky agents whatever country and while they spying each other like dumb kids on shitty salary..and governments and banks for sure hhhhh not behind this because peer to peer come from activist and kill central p0wer very simple...

Edward Snowden comes out as early Bitcoin adopter "The servers that I used [when whistleblowing against the NSA] were paid for using Bitcoin."
2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2463&v=PVN13ad3UUk 41:00

so most of the people uneducated and the logic function inside the head dont work its real and they think its one person hhhhh
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Just forget it OP, SATOSHI had not shown already a long time ago and many of the users here linking to theymos. Even theymos had the idea of the money for the forum to which means that theymos and SATOSHI or a group of people does have knowledge about bitcoin and the forum.

This is what my theory all.about so OP, this is also where the story could.go and it is hard to pursue an information if the person or group of interest would not be willing to show up.

Forget it OP.
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Just forget it OP, SATOSHI had not shown already a long time ago and many of the users here linking to theymos. Even theymos had the idea of the money for the forum to which means that theymos and SATOSHI or a group of people does have knowledge about bitcoin and the forum.

This is what my theory all.about so OP, this is also where the story could.go and it is hard to pursue an information if the person or group of interest would not be willing to show up.

Forget it OP.

Once quantum computers will start to move that early coins, and we will switch to quantum secure wallets, we will know if they have the keys or not.
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Just forget it OP, SATOSHI had not shown already a long time ago and many of the users here linking to theymos. Even theymos had the idea of the money for the forum to which means that theymos and SATOSHI or a group of people does have knowledge about bitcoin and the forum.

This is what my theory all.about so OP, this is also where the story could.go and it is hard to pursue an information if the person or group of interest would not be willing to show up.

Forget it OP.


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Re: Who is Satoshi Nakamoto?
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Quote from: KacperBTCrypto on Today at 02:15:22 PM
Satoshi may make bitcoin famous all over the world.
If we'd know who he is, TV news would talk and talk about it, people would get interested in crypto topics and maybe become new investors ----> BTC GROWS UP!


your so fucking dumb its unbelievable, almost everything can be traced over the internet...but its relative to the mind and 99% of the people is feed from dumb websites and the wrong people///// only 1-2% make money in this industry and most of them activists ...

tv cannot know who is satoshi, know why its a team,,, few people on the web said peer to peer file sharing will do financial freedom one of them, Edward Snowden he was very early Bitcoin adopter he know why hhhh

i explain all this 0ver and 0ver to help people with logic the others huge % will stuck with their dumb ideas and for sure will never do any money in the game,,,its all relative...

this teams need a lot of money to build new projects and feed them self and help others and other important stuff

you probaly didnt read my answer because you so fucking dumb,,,but bitcoin is peer to peer money and it came from peer to peer file sharing nothing new here about bitcoin

the point the punk marketers make it viral very fast...
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June 30, 2019, 01:16:56 AM
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Just put yourself in the mindset that Satoshi might have had when he created those "test" addresses and when he mined those coins in the early experimental year of Bitcoin back in 2009/2010. You release the code and nobody is taking it serious, so you start off by mining some coins and then showcasing how it works to people on anonymous platforms.

It is a chaotic time and you are still ironing out the problems and answering people's questions and also trying to hide your real identity <because it is illegal in most countries to create your own currency>

So what do you do? Record all the private keys and take the risk that you might get raided and that it might be held as evidence against you? Nah, I seriously think Satoshi mined those coins just to get things moving and he did not even bother to "archive" most of the private keys that he/she or they were generating.  Roll Eyes

You can speculate, however, how certain are you that he never had copies of his private keys?

Also, the solution to this unfair advantage would be to dilute the coins of the early miners by predictable, infinite emission.

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June 30, 2019, 03:06:39 AM
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Satoshi,

improve Bitcoin! Don't let people assume that Bitcoin was pre-mined or ninja-mined. Bitcoin can only grow if that will be solved.

there is nothing to solve!
there are always going to be idiots who hear something and make conclusions based on that just because they don't understand what things such as "premine" and "ninja mine" mean that doesn't mean bitcoin needs fixing, THOSE people need fixing and that is out of our control.

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June 30, 2019, 04:18:07 PM
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Satoshi,

improve Bitcoin! Don't let people assume that Bitcoin was pre-mined or ninja-mined. Bitcoin can only grow if that will be solved.


This are the comments which denote that there's still some innocence left on this world.

And of course that this is the comment that should be listened to, even if we're reading. Why? Because it needs to be repeated constantly i believe.

The time will come when the appearance of Satoshi will be needed and he will probably know more than anyone else when that date will be. Then he can solve those issues and reward anyone who he believes deserve it. For now, that would only bring more misconceptions and problems and complicated things a lot more.
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June 30, 2019, 04:25:23 PM
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Satoshi,

improve Bitcoin! Don't let people assume that Bitcoin was pre-mined or ninja-mined. Bitcoin can only grow if that will be solved.

What are you saying?

Getting solved by what? It's just a selfish act of yours. Also, Satoshi didn't expect this good thing happening in bitcoin so I think we should thank him because of this opportunity and this is you, wanted to solve something to grow bitcoin. lol

there is nothing to solve!
there are always going to be idiots who hear something and make conclusions based on that just because they don't understand what things such as "premine" and "ninja mine" mean that doesn't mean bitcoin needs fixing, THOSE people need fixing and that is out of our control.

Exactly. People are getting obsessed with bitcoin and thinking that it needed to be solved/fixed to grow.  Cheesy

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September 27, 2019, 01:40:46 PM
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Hello Satoshi

we think that you have created a bitcoin prize competition and that the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. We are trying to solve it and will move the rewarding coins. If you want to add something to that statement, please don't hesitate.

Thank you
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