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July 01, 2019, 03:14:22 PM
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Because of time constraints, I have not been able to come to the forum as much as I would like to. The current format of the website makes it very unfriendly to be operated on the mobile web browser. I would never dare to write a reply on the mobile browser. God, its a hell of a task.  Grin

I would request the forum admin (theymos) to allocate some funds to the development of a sleek and beautiful mobile application that would make it easier for people like me to access the portal on the go. I think there is an ample amount of fund lying with the forum (going by his comments) to undertake such a development. Maybe, we can contribute to the app by giving out our suggestions for the same. I would love to know about what the community thinks about getting an app.
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Not an app; but I'd be definately up for a phone browser friendly layout of the forum (some m.bitcointalk.org or similar).

An app requires to be allowed in the device; which goes quite against the privacy some users want, but there is a TOR mobile app, so with being the site mobile friendly, they'd still be able to maintain that level of anonimity.

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I would love to be able to browse more easily on mobile, but an app is never going to happen. The new forum software Epochtalk will be much more mobile friendly when it is finally released. You can see a very rough idea of how it will look on mobile by visiting https://www.cryptos-currencies.com/, which is being hosted by user lulucrypto.

Given that the new software has been in development for 5+ years, and we still don't have a release date yet, there is no chance that theymos is going to divert time, money, and attention away from it and to begin development on an app. In the meantime, there are user created scripts you can search for which make things a bit nicer on mobile, but as they are all unofficial, you are using them at your own risk - the creator could quite easily slip in some malicious code.
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July 01, 2019, 03:57:51 PM
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Not an app; but I'd be definately up for a phone browser friendly layout of the forum (some m.bitcointalk.org or similar).
I'd be for that, but not for my own benefit--I can barely type out coherent sentences on my phone because of my huge thumbs and tiny keyboard.  Even when I use a stylus it's an enormous pain in the ass.  That's just me, though.  I'm sure a lot of members do access the forum from their phone, and it'd be nice to have a proper mobile layout for them, and there would be no app needed.

I've actually been quite surprised that Theymos hasn't implemented something like this, since most websites I know of are mobile-friendly and he certainly could do it.  Not sure how expensive it would be to make the forum look pretty on a smartphone, but I'm fairly sure bitcointalk has the funds. 

By the way, this isn't the first time this has been discussed.  I don't think Theymos has the will to do it.

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July 01, 2019, 04:35:40 PM
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Not sure how expensive it would be to make the forum look pretty on a smartphone, but I'm fairly sure bitcointalk has the funds.
I think it's less to do with funds and more to do with time and effort. The latest versions of Simple Machines Forum software provide mobile responsive themes and designs, so all he would need to do is update to the latest version of the software. However, doing so would likely break a bunch of other features and need a significant amount of time to repair. Given that he hasn't done it yet, I can't see him doing it as Epochtalk gets closer to completion.
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July 01, 2019, 05:19:33 PM
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It's difficult for me to type on the forum from my mobile phone, I keep zooming in and out, dragging left and right to be able to see clearly, it's exhausting really without a PC.
I think we'll surely do with a more friendly site for phone users and I think this should be put into consideration by theymos.
An app is still a far cry away and I doubt that it'll ever be implemented, so I think we should simply focus on making typing less stressful for smartphone users.

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July 01, 2019, 05:39:09 PM
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It's difficult for me to type on the forum from my mobile phone, I keep zooming in and out, dragging left and right to be able to see clearly, it's exhausting really without a PC.
I think we'll surely do with a more friendly site for phone users and I think this should be put into consideration by theymos.
An app is still a far cry away and I doubt that it'll ever be implemented, so I think we should simply focus on making typing less stressful for smartphone users.
If you use Firefox as your mobile browser, you can use this extension to make the forum more responsible.
While that's not the best solution, it works.

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July 01, 2019, 05:39:27 PM
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I would never dare to write a reply on the mobile browser. God, its a hell of a task.  Grin
Typing on a small touch screen is terrible with or without app.

The layout could be improved, as it now requires a lot of left/right scrolling on a small screen, but I barely install new apps and wouldn't install it for something as unimportant as improving the forum interface.

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An app isn't needed when the site is good scalable on a mobile device. Now I still have to scroll to much on mobile.

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July 01, 2019, 05:47:03 PM
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I don't install any apps
Btw this reply was typed on a Huawei mobile phone with a smallish screen

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July 01, 2019, 05:51:10 PM
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An app is not a bad idea, and I have not yet gotten theymos take on it possibility. One option which I believe is very plausible is a mobile view option across all browsers rather than the default desktop view. This would make it easier to type and read through.
I rarely use a PC to navigate the forum, and have gotten quite used to doing it on a mobile device, so it's mostly down to familiarity rather than the website being difficult.

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The new EpochTalk[1] forum software that is supposedly going to be used for Bitcointalk in the future should be enough. I just hope we get it soon. Reddit bitcoin and cryptocurrency subreddits went to crap in 2017 and I definitely would be reading Bitcointalk A LOT more if it was mobile friendly.


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July 01, 2019, 07:55:44 PM
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Because of time constraints, I have not been able to come to the forum as much as I would like to...
I don't know what time constraints have to do with the need for a mobile app to visit the forum unless you mean that you don't have the time to be on a computer that long. In that case it would make sense.

I would prefer not to install a separate app just to visit the forum nor do I like to do it over my phone but I understand if some users would prefer to have that option and I would definitely support it. A mobile friendly site, like most users suggest would be a better way to go in my opinion.

But before that I would rather see the forum move towards the new software and introduce some sort of 2FA.

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July 01, 2019, 08:09:51 PM
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Bitcointalk app was discussed so many in past already. It's not likely that theymos will make Bitcointalk app. In past I remember it was unofficial app made by someone, not sure that it still works. Now we have to wait till release of Epochtalk - then forum will be mobile responsive.
Even if Bitcointalk would have an app, probably I wouldn't download it. I don't want to fill my phone with apps of every particular website that I visit (forums, news media and other stuff. I prefer to visit using browser. Apps sometimes just give too many annoying  notifications, use internet in background and eat phone batter. Sometimes it also asking for too many permissions.

Typing on a small touch screen is terrible with or without app.
Well, I made majority of my posts here using smartphone and I can't say it's difficult. Maybe because my fingers aren't big Cheesy. But other things like editing quotes, making nice layout of post requires too much efforts.

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An app or responsive site either one can solve the need of a mobile user I guess. But typing in the smaller screen is still an issue for the people who have bigger thumbs (I have bigger thumbs  Sad).

Well, I made majority of my posts here using smartphone and I can't say it's difficult. Maybe because my fingers aren't big Cheesy. But other things like editing quotes, making nice layout of post requires too much efforts.
You have a high level of patience and lucky enough to have smaller fingers. Cheesy

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July 01, 2019, 09:37:21 PM
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I would request the forum admin (theymos) to allocate some funds to the development of a sleek and beautiful mobile application that would make it easier for people like me to access the portal on the go.

No app is needed - the HTML just needs to be updated.

Don't expect it here though, as Epochtalk is where all development should happen.

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If typing on your phone screen is an issue, then there are plenty of folding bluetooth keyboards you could buy and carry around with you. A very quick Amazon search found the following keyboards which when folded are barely bigger than a phone itself.

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July 01, 2019, 09:53:20 PM
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I believe the rigid web design is one of the biggest hindrance for guests to linger on the forum. Almost all the other crypto-focused sites are mobile-friendly.

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July 01, 2019, 09:56:43 PM
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If typing on your phone screen is an issue, then there are plenty of folding bluetooth keyboards you could buy and carry around with you. A very quick Amazon search found the following keyboards which when folded are barely bigger than a phone itself.

https://www.amazon.com/iClever-Rechargeable-Bluetooth-Smartphones-IC-BK06/dp/B01JA6HG88/
https://www.amazon.com/Samsers-Foldable-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Rechargeable/dp/B07KNHLHDW

Or if you are feeling really extravagant, you can buy little boxes which will project a working keyboard via laser on to any flat surface.

Or if you are a bit nostalgic; you can always use a typing machine! https://www.qwerkywriter.com/

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July 01, 2019, 10:55:08 PM
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I'd be for that, but not for my own benefit--I can barely type out coherent sentences on my phone because of my huge thumbs and tiny keyboard.  Even when I use a stylus it's an enormous pain in the ass.  That's just me, though.  I'm sure a lot of members do access the forum from their phone, and it'd be nice to have a proper mobile layout for them, and there would be no app needed.

I've actually been quite surprised that Theymos hasn't implemented something like this, since most websites I know of are mobile-friendly and he certainly could do it.  Not sure how expensive it would be to make the forum look pretty on a smartphone, but I'm fairly sure bitcointalk has the funds. 

By the way, this isn't the first time this has been discussed.  I don't think Theymos has the will to do it.
Web-devolopment is a pain in the ass, and making a hybrid website while the forum is based on SMF is definitely not going to be the easiest thing to do, I am not sure if a more UX intuitive hybrid website is even possible with SMF. I do remember seeing a bitcointalk (unofficial) app on the Playstore, i played around with it for a while, not the best experience, it just felt like how it is on the browser, and I heard a lot of forum memebers screeching out on how risky is it,so uh there is that.

Or if you are a bit nostalgic; you can always use a typing machine! https://www.qwerkywriter.com/
Yo this one is PERFECT for The Pharmacist, he likes grandpa like stuff anyway  Grin

I really hope Epochtalk comes out more sooner than later, and more importantly, hope that all this waiting time was worth it.

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