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in fact this is a risk of being a bounty hunter and we cannot deny this all, let alone the developer and the project team have full authority in every rule that applies in the project. Well, it is fair or unfair, honestly in my opinion it is indeed unfair if the team changes the rules at the end of the campaign.
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September 10, 2019, 06:55:54 AM |
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There is a rule in the bounty thread that the team and the manager has the right to change the rules anytime they want. This is legal if they will hcange the bounty rules or extend the duration period due to their disclaimer. But i think, sometime that rule is not fair and abuse the participants, there must be changes on that.
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September 10, 2019, 07:25:48 AM |
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An honest bounty manager will explain all the rules above bounty openly and transparently. If at any time there are changes to the rules, they will always make announcements on their bounty page or on their social media channels. Meanwhile, as the case mentioned above, it's very clear that bounty hunters will feel so wronged. But we cannot do anything, because on the main page of the bounty, the rules have been written first: Bounty Manager and the Team reserves the right to change or add rules any time during the campaign. That way we as bounty hunters can't do anything.
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September 10, 2019, 08:15:43 AM |
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That is completely unavoidable, there are many reasons. For example, they discovered many bots or maybe too many or too few participants
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September 10, 2019, 08:52:21 AM |
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A frequent change is that Bounty Hunter is required to do KYC before accepting payment. And perhaps this is more painful when projects like Money tokens, Bounty campaign projects expire. And who gets their payout with the member account level above. And accounts with Junior level members don't get anything and this happens in the signature campaign program.
While this Junior account has been followed from the start of the project run. I suppose there should be strict rules for those who want to change the rules.
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September 10, 2019, 09:15:55 AM |
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There is a rule in the bounty thread that the team and the manager has the right to change the rules anytime they want. This is legal if they will hcange the bounty rules or extend the duration period due to their disclaimer. But i think, sometime that rule is not fair and abuse the participants, there must be changes on that.
They are changing rules without any further explanation bounty hunters have nothing else to do but to wait or follow any instructions or those changes that has been done after the bounty had ended, it's not good for the image of their team as it will be a distrustful act when changes has been done after which it's should be there before or while the campaign is still ongoing.
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September 10, 2019, 11:26:00 AM |
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Lately more and more bounties are not following its own rules. By changing it after the campaign was finish and its unacceptable a form of abuse, decietful, dishonest, in the beggining the stupid terms and condition which is all favor to the team. It should be stop! the bounties must be return to its previous state like 2016-2017 those abusive Bounty Managers whos practice unfair method must gain negative trust. join for the fight
Unfortunately, this often happens, and it usually always depends not from the bounty manager, but from the company that doing the bounty, because specifically in each bounty the rules are written that at any time the company that doing the bounty can change the rules and reduce the bounty pool, and with this of course, it’s very difficult to do something, but there is always a way out in such situations, namely, all bounty hunters need to get together and fight with the team of such companies.
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September 10, 2019, 04:38:10 PM |
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This is just a regular trick of how to pay less tokens to bounty participants, but unfortunately, they can do it. As we are starting to take part in bounties we are accepting the point that managers are allowed to change bounties in any direction that want to.
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Shouldn't there be a thread that could somehow provide some history on bounties? OP for this thread could solicit and update unbiased accounts on participation on past bounties by users and some form of feedback on how the bounties were managed can also be highlighted then possibly ranked. This 'abuse' could be prevented if bounty hunters are: (1)made aware of past schemes that have proven to be somewhat deceitful or unfair; and (2)encouraged to support current/future bounties managed by bounty managers who have a good track record.
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September 10, 2019, 05:34:06 PM |
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In most cases it's stated that the team and bounty manager have the right to alter rules or rewards. This doesn't necessarily mean rules should be altered to cheat bounty hunters promoting the project. Some change of rules are genuine but most are unfair. For instance, if total supply of coin was slashed, and total number of coins allocated for bounty is reduced, then it's OK. But if the reward is slashed for no reason, it's unfair.
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September 11, 2019, 05:50:03 AM |
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Lately more and more bounties are not following its own rules. By changing it after the campaign was finish and its unacceptable a form of abuse, decietful, dishonest, in the beggining the stupid terms and condition which is all favor to the team. It should be stop! the bounties must be return to its previous state like 2016-2017 those abusive Bounty Managers whos practice unfair method must gain negative trust. join for the fight
You should know that before you joined the campaign, yes they are abusing their participants but they already stated in their rules that they have an option to change the rules anytime and they are always changing it to favor their campaign, just pick the right bounty manager to run the campaign who will not connive with the developer.
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September 12, 2019, 06:35:06 AM |
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This is just a regular trick of how to pay less tokens to bounty participants, but unfortunately, they can do it. As we are starting to take part in bounties we are accepting the point that managers are allowed to change bounties in any direction that want to.
Points like that make bounty hunters unable to do anything. As bounty hunters, we can only surrender and accept the circumstances, because full authority is in their hands. But it's really unfair if when the bounty ends they cut down the allocation of bounty for no apparent reason, such a thing cannot be taken for granted, and will be very detrimental to bounty hunters who have been promoting their projects wholeheartedly.
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Yes, this is something I really hate and feel disrespectful. I think the bitcointalk forum should have control positions for bounties campaigns. I think people in the forum should really be respected and they should have the right to speak out about these injustices.
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Unfortunately, bounty hunters have no way to influence the final result of the distribution of coins and the conditions of generosity companies.
Bounty Hunters are not needed to influence the final results of distribution, All we care was the team and bounty rules must be followed in the first place! As the terms and condition will bind in the beginning til the End, Adding that the team and bounty Manager can change the rules anytime within the campaign period its binding, But when the term and rules will change after the campaign was already finish will thats another story and it will be an issue of honesty! the Perfect example was the "Digital Bits" Bounty Campaign! They twist and change the rules after the campaign was finished at first the binding rule was the distribution will commence after it was listed and it was not happen! they said that they will pay the campaign in Jan-March 2020! Thats why be careful to choose the right Bounty program.
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September 12, 2019, 08:58:09 PM |
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In fact, changing rules at the end of a bounty campaign can really be annoying and frustrating to bear and in a much perfect way, a great form of abuse. Though we do understand many times that bounty rules are subject to change but changing it after bounty hunters have promoted the projects is indeed a form of abuse and cheat.
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Changing the rules especially that of allocation can be frustrating because hunters worked looking at the earlier assigned payout. Projects needs to stop the change of rules at the end of the campaign.
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All hope that in a golden era like 2017 gift managers work with the rules that have been set since the beginning of the campaign without reversing the facts at the end of the gift. without seeing it can damage the prize participants who work for them, all are seen as the final scam and have the effect of being disappointed to join, because they are considered wasting time in vain with no clear results
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Even though there was a bounty managers that cheats their are also bounty managers that work on their rules and getting honest to the bounty hunters that signs to their company. Also bounty must be turn back to the year 2017 to make our bounty hunters safe into the company that they are applying.
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September 13, 2019, 12:59:51 PM |
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Unfortunately, this often happens, and it usually always depends not from the bounty manager, but from the company that doing the bounty, because specifically in each bounty the rules are written that at any time the company that doing the bounty can change the rules and reduce the bounty pool, and with this of course, it’s very difficult to do something, but there is always a way out in such situations, namely, all bounty hunters need to get together and fight with the team of such companies.
How would they do that when you know that everything we do is over the internet and to get people coordinated over the internet is something that is very bad, and the only way that I feel we can just stop all these abuse by these team and developers is to stop participating in some of those projects that cannot attest to the credibility of the developer or the project team, because many credible developer or project team would never cheat or do all those sort of rubbish at the end of the campaign. Most of those projects that do that are either scam projects or they end up being a bad project because if they cannot manage ordinary bounty campaign, how can they manage the whole project? So, I am not sure we can fight them but we can at least make little impression.
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sadly even that mean cheating the bounty manager can do anything they want. As bounty hunter whenever we join the bounty its mean we follow all the bounty manager rulers. All we can do just make thread here and mark the bounty hunter as cheater.
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