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July 04, 2019, 06:08:52 PM
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All these nonsense coming from Faketoshi CW are getting pretty boring, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto he does not have 1.1 million BTC in his pocket. He's so brilliant scientist that he forgot how important is to backup private keys, so he can not prove anything.

And Kleiman wasn't Satoshi either, because if he was, someone would find some evidence already, but no one did. I don't follow the drama too closely, but from what I understand, CSW now claims that he and Kleiman were Satoshi together, and that 1 million coins is now held by some trust, which is laughable, because the real Satoshi would never do such a stupid thing as to entrust his coins to someone else- Bitcoin was created to be your own bank.
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July 04, 2019, 06:50:20 PM
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You know, what must happen now is for CSW to make a statement like John McAfee and promise us that he would eat his dick, if something like this does not happen. He is making these wild announcements and statements without any repercussions and that makes him dangerous.

The courts must deal with him and get rid of him, because he is a nuisance and there are gullible people out there that fall for his nonsense. We know he is full of sh@#$, so we ignore his rubbish statements, but it takes time to counter and repair the damage that statements like this does to the people that fall for this.  Angry
It's really shame how these people act, they want to have reputation but at the same time act like a trolls but they are it in reality. Then all hate comes on bitcoin, this coin achieved something that they can't ever achieve and for this reason they hate it and create shit altcoins, then do bad propaganda against bitcoin but as always, they fail and fail. I think no one gives a shit what they think or say, to my mind their posts must be automatically considered as a spam by social networks Cheesy

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July 04, 2019, 07:30:48 PM
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All these nonsense coming from Faketoshi CW are getting pretty boring, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto he does not have 1.1 million BTC in his pocket. He's so brilliant scientist that he forgot how important is to backup private keys, so he can not prove anything.

And Kleiman wasn't Satoshi either, because if he was, someone would find some evidence already, but no one did. I don't follow the drama too closely, but from what I understand, CSW now claims that he and Kleiman were Satoshi together, and that 1 million coins is now held by some trust, which is laughable, because the real Satoshi would never do such a stupid thing as to entrust his coins to someone else- Bitcoin was created to be your own bank.
Trusts exist for a reason. Ask the queen of England, she will tell you that she owns some dirty underwear and thats it, everything else is in a trust.

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July 04, 2019, 10:47:29 PM
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Trusts exist for a reason. Ask the queen of England, she will tell you that she owns some dirty underwear and thats it, everything else is in a trust.

What was the point of creating Bitcoin, then? If you read the whitepaper, the point was to eliminate trusted intermediaries and custodians like trusts. Wright's convoluted excuses contradict the whole premise.

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July 05, 2019, 06:25:55 AM
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Trusts exist for a reason. Ask the queen of England, she will tell you that she owns some dirty underwear and thats it, everything else is in a trust.

What was the point of creating Bitcoin, then? If you read the whitepaper, the point was to eliminate trusted intermediaries and custodians like trusts. Wright's convoluted excuses contradict the whole premise.

He trusts mathematics. It seems as if the trustee is Bitcoin itself as no person knows or hold address, keys to be able to access coins.
Using trusted intermediaries to sent coins is another issue.

btw  2 trusts exist with a total of 1.9 Million to able to use/sell if David followed protocol
Trust I 1.1 M
Trust II 0.8 M
Al the trust is with David. 
The court case is all about what percentage was Davids share, if any at all.
The real Bum in the whole thing is Davids brother Ira, never visited his dying brother in hospital or at home, initially voluntary forfeited the inheritance and has disposed of  Davids computer equipment. Only after Craig contacted Davids father at told him to hold on to the Computer equipment as its valuable (to late, Ira already dumped it) greedy Ira now things he is entitled to 10 Billion even so he has absolutely nothing to do with Bitcoin.

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July 05, 2019, 10:28:17 AM
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Are those the same documents from 2011 or 2012 that was later exposed as fake, because the font that was used was not invented until 2015?

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July 05, 2019, 12:12:51 PM
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This guy doesn’t know when to stop does he Cheesy
He’s been asked to sign a message from an early address (holding many coins) to prove that he is Satoshi & he can’t. He makes up a load of crap excuses as to why he can’t.

If he can’t sign a message to prove he has access to 1 million BTC then how is he going to send them to an exchange to sell them?

The guy is a total fraudster Grin

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July 05, 2019, 01:22:03 PM
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Craight is a really funny person, let's say even he wouldn't access to any bitcoins and old accounts on forums. He could ask to confirm his identity as Satoshi thanks to many PMs with Gavin, Theymos, Sirius from the early stage, but he never did it, why? because he can'T. Moreover, his plan to overload BTC network is the dumbest idea, instead of letting people sell their BTC in panic and really damage the whole ecosystem, he would do a giveaway for those who would put buy limits on few bucks...do it mate, I'm waiting Smiley
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July 05, 2019, 02:08:01 PM
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Are those the same documents from 2011 or 2012 that was later exposed as fake, because the font that was used was not invented until 2015?

How was that really 'exposed' ? Did you see proper forensics ?

Nope - just folled the herd   Roll Eyes

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July 05, 2019, 02:18:12 PM
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This guy doesn’t know when to stop does he Cheesy
Why would he? All this negative publicity makes him even more of a cult leader amongst mentally challenged individuals, and there are quite a few of them.

He’s been asked to sign a message from an early address (holding many coins) to prove that he is Satoshi & he can’t. He makes up a load of crap excuses as to why he can’t.

If he can’t sign a message to prove he has access to 1 million BTC then how is he going to send them to an exchange to sell them?
He's clearly playing a long term game here. He doesn't mind going back and forth for plenty of more years without providing evidence (which he obviously doesn't have). The longer he can do the same thing, the more popularity he will gain because people will continue talking about him, news outlets will continue to report about him, etc.

Also don't forget that CoinGeek's propaganda machine is running too, so there is no shortage of publicity. Mr F. Toshi is clearly not going to stop. Cheesy
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July 05, 2019, 02:19:48 PM
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Craig is definitely not the Satoshi Nakamoto but do know who Satoshi is. His claims now and not being able to prove his claims and accusation, it suggest he knows the real satoshi won't come to testify against him. So, the real satoshi could be Dave Kleiman, he was real close to Wright and is dead in 2013.
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July 05, 2019, 02:25:21 PM
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Craig is definitely not the Satoshi Nakamoto but do know who Satoshi is. His claims now and not being able to prove his claims and accusation, it suggest he knows the real satoshi won't come to testify against him. So, the real satoshi could be Dave Kleiman, he was real close to Wright and is dead in 2013.

Craig wasn't even around in early years to even interact over the internet with the anonymous "account" called satoshi let alone know the identity of the person in real life. not to mention that he is a nobody and there is no reason for him to even know it since he wasn't even aware of bitcoin before he began scamming people.

There is a FOMO brewing...
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July 05, 2019, 03:26:27 PM
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If he has the control of the address where more than 1M Bitcoin is on that address and he can sell it then I will believe that he is Satoshi.

We know that Satoshi is holding more than 1m Bitcoin in his address. Now if he really is satoshi then he must continue what he is planning and that is to sell it. SELL IT YOU FUCKING STUPID IDIOT!!!!!

Calm down. He don't have the private key to any of those wallets. Satoshi's wallets contain 980,000 BTC and Craig S Wright doesn't have the private key to move these coins to exchanges. This is just a scare tactic from him, to lower the exchange rate of BTC and to prop up his own shitcoin (Bitcoin SV). We should not fall in to this trap by purchasing BSV.
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July 05, 2019, 07:22:16 PM
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He trusts mathematics. It seems as if the trustee is Bitcoin itself as no person knows or hold address, keys to be able to access coins.
Using trusted intermediaries to sent coins is another issue.

According to his story, he doesn't control his own bitcoins. He trusted that other people would cooperate with him to recover his bitcoins. No back-ups or contingency plans. Just flat out trust.

The court case is all about what percentage was Davids share, if any at all.

This whole case is smoke and mirrors. I don't think it has anything to do with the Satoshi coins.

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July 05, 2019, 07:41:36 PM
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Are those the same documents from 2011 or 2012 that was later exposed as fake, because the font that was used was not invented until 2015?

How was that really 'exposed' ? Did you see proper forensics ?

Nope - just folled the herd   Roll Eyes

See the news:



While the presented deed of trust document is ostensibly dated Oct. 23, 2012, the metadata of the file indicates that the document was actually created after the death of Kleiman, as Palley found. The trust document apparently uses a 2015 copyright notice related to Calibri, the Microsoft Word font, indicating that the document could not be from earlier.

Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/craig-wright-uses-falsified-docs-to-prove-innocence-in-kleiman-case

Faketshi will eventually be unmasked as a big fake. He is a shame for the crypto world. for a guy who claims to be satoshi he's reveals to be a guy with serious mental problems


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July 05, 2019, 07:48:10 PM
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I think this is another FUD from CSW, he talks and brags too much, an honorable person doesn't behave this way. If it happens that he actually has such a volume of bitcoin which I doubt, we will gladly buy for a cheap price.
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July 05, 2019, 07:53:41 PM
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I think this is another FUD from CSW, he talks and brags too much, an honorable person doesn't behave this way. If it happens that he actually has such a volume of bitcoin which I doubt, we will gladly buy for a cheap price.
How you expect to get 10 Billion dollars from someone who does not have them? He gets sued.
Why would you even go to court, just to waste time?
Has everyone become brain dead.

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July 05, 2019, 08:53:11 PM
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This is just another sorry attempt to manipulate the market, if they are really hold 1 million btc they should be able to prove it, and if they do why are they selling it they know that selling right now will decrease the value so they will be losing instead of gaining because they won't be able to sell it all at once, i think that with the halving getting close people have been trying to buy as much bitcoin as they can in order to make profit when it takes place, and this lead to the price skyrocketing, so i think that they are saying this in order to make people believe that there will be a huge supply coming so they would stop buying and lead to a price drop, so they can then buy at a lower price than it is today.
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July 05, 2019, 09:10:20 PM
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I think this is another FUD from CSW, he talks and brags too much, an honorable person doesn't behave this way. If it happens that he actually has such a volume of bitcoin which I doubt, we will gladly buy for a cheap price.
How you expect to get 10 Billion dollars from someone who does not have them? He gets sued.
Why would you even go to court, just to waste time?
Has everyone become brain dead.

CSW is going to court because he wants his name in the headlines. He's so far lost in his own lie that there's nothing left to do but continue. Ever been drunk and played dare with friends? Half way through when you're doing the dare you realize this is stupid but you can't go back and let them know you've failed so you keep on going.

CSW is poorer than you think. I hope he loses the case against Kleiman and they prove he's a thief.
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I think this is another FUD from CSW, he talks and brags too much, an honorable person doesn't behave this way. If it happens that he actually has such a volume of bitcoin which I doubt, we will gladly buy for a cheap price.
How you expect to get 10 Billion dollars from someone who does not have them? He gets sued.
Why would you even go to court, just to waste time?
Has everyone become brain dead.

BSV's price benefits greatly from the endorsement of "Satoshi" even if Wright is later debunked. By all appearances, he's just using this drama as a ploy to temporarily create value out of thin air. It's a "pump and dump" so he and his associates can dump their BSV on naive investors.

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