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rohood
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July 04, 2019, 08:20:36 AM
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User: von Bahl
link - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2612673

His telegram: bahl738756

A link to prove that this is indeed his telegram, he likes to play with the order of numbers in the telegram name and say he has impostors:

https://imgur.com/8YuJ7JU


in short:

The guy walks around the forum and offers Amazon gift cards for sale.
I turned to him and asked to buy a gift card for Amazon Germany.
He said he sells them at 75%.
I told him we would start with a gift card of 50 EUR.

He referred me to Paxful while relying on their support for the sellers.
(Screenshot: https://imgur.com/1nPudzS)

I did not have an account there and I told him I would open one.
Luckily, I encountered an error signing up and was unable to create an account on Paxful.

I told him that if he had a 25 euro card, I would risk being paid without escrow,
He said he did not have a 25 EUR card.

Then I suggested that he sell me a 50 EUR card without escrow but get only half the payment (19 EUR) in advance, he would send the card, and after I redeem it I would send him the second half of the payment (18.5 EUR).

He agreed.

I sent him 19 EUR
(8da1a1738f5cfe255509d92e7c8a6ef51c9b76fa15b93c8abcf27102734bf57b)

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/8da1a1738f5cfe255509d92e7c8a6ef51c9b76fa15b93c8abcf27102734bf57b

Proof that this is his wallet address:
https://imgur.com/a/xwbjJuW

He sent me a photo of a gift card. I redeem it into an account and of course, I got an error.
I sent him a screenshot of the error.
He apologized and said that his partner had made a mistake and gave him a card that suited Amazon USA and not Amazon Germany.
He offered me a refund of the Bitcoin. I gave him my wallet address and, you will not believe it, he handed me the Bitcoin !!

(7f615905cba62500c143334a345857c7b9145d6d480c0027a2e9e11ff0f41b52)
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/7f615905cba62500c143334a345857c7b9145d6d480c0027a2e9e11ff0f41b52

It was a reassuring step, a sly cheater, Why should he steal only 19 euros if he can make me trust him and steal more?

But fortunately, I decided that 19 euros were the maximum amount I was willing to risk.

Two days later, I turned to him again and asked him to sell me a 50 EUR card on the payment terms I had agreed upon.


Apparently he understood that he could not get more of that amount of money, He agreed, I sent him another 19 euros
(4583f7c2efb72ad142cf7b06262890fc1563a13039223ff3d6778803e41bfbb5)
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/4583f7c2efb72ad142cf7b06262890fc1563a13039223ff3d6778803e41bfbb5

And since then I never heard from him again and after a while, he deleted the chat.

These 19 euros will be my tuition. I'm sorrier for the waste of time in three days of talking to this deceiver.

If you want to see most of my conversation with him, you can look at these screenshots in order:

https://imgur.com/v0rqGoR
https://imgur.com/PMyXN4g
https://imgur.com/g9dvAFh
https://imgur.com/ydUdwJ1
https://imgur.com/QvwXCDe
https://imgur.com/yVbJzzZ
https://imgur.com/6RXaPZC
https://imgur.com/eFqMcgI
https://imgur.com/v49z8NQ
https://imgur.com/bylHDIi
https://imgur.com/RuKy21I
https://imgur.com/e8BUS1V
https://imgur.com/78A7M4G
https://imgur.com/odowdkS
https://imgur.com/s2B29vl
https://imgur.com/o1IMYwW

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July 04, 2019, 08:34:13 AM
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Sorry for your loss.

Why did you wait 2 weeks to create this scam accusation? Were you hoping for him to send you the gift card ?


I have left him a negative rating. If you start a flag against him, i will support it.

Let's see whether he replies to it or not (i guess he won't since it is just a newbie account and he probably will use a new one to scam people).
Don't do business with newbies without an escrow.

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July 04, 2019, 10:02:19 AM
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No, I did not hope he would send me the card.

I just did not have the strength to open an accusation, formulate a message, upload the pictures, etc. The guy has already wasted enough of my time.

But this week I saw that he was bouncing off his sales post and I wanted to prevent other people from being scammed.

The truth is that he can still keep lying, because he managed to delete one of his messages on Telegram where he gives me the second wallet address to which I sent the other 19 euros.

But here it is not a court, I just hope that other people will see and be careful.
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July 04, 2019, 10:27:06 AM
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But here it is not a court, I just hope that other people will see and be careful.

I left a negative too for this user. I will suggest you to create a flag too so that other can easily spot this scammer. Sorry to hear you lose. Consider this as a lesson of not using proper security measurement. Always use escrow for your safety.





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August 01, 2019, 02:04:19 PM
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giving this a bump, user is still active bumping his thread and trying to scam
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August 02, 2019, 07:53:08 AM
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You can create a typ3 flag (violated written contract) against him. This will result in a big warning banner being displayed above all of his threads.

Visit his profile -> Click on 'trust' -> At 'negative feedback' -> click 'add a flag' -> choose the 2nd or 3rd.

You will find support for this flag, here.



Edit: BTW, that is my 4000th post on this forum  ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪

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August 02, 2019, 10:42:06 AM
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Edit: BTW, that is my 4000th post on this forum  ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪
It was a great milestone. I just had mine few days ago so I understand the feeling 🤪

Anyway, back to the topic, I tagged the user and I agree with bob123 that create a flag. The tag is not enough for this user a red warning sign will do the job better.

Sorry to hear you loss OP

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August 02, 2019, 02:50:58 PM
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Flag created please "support":  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=548



You can create a typ3 flag (violated written contract) against him. This will result in a big warning banner being displayed above all of his threads.
Unfortunately only for Newbies and those not logged in.


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