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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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September 19, 2019, 05:46:20 AM
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Quote from: Naida_BR link=topic=5163249.msg52495540#msg52495540

Such an unexpected result for Real Madrid. I was kind of sure that they won't be able to win this match but not to lose with so much scoring difference.
I think that Zidane is already in a bad position even if it is still early on the season.

I am actually not surprised if Real Madrid lost. It's just that they lost with a lot of goals. Another bad season for real Madrid, Real Madrid like losing his game. Be it a Domestic or Champions League match. At this rate, chances are that Real Madrid will fast the title again.
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September 19, 2019, 05:58:52 AM
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Paris did a great job yesterday but the thing with the VAR is like the law in Balkan countries,it is applied on poor people without support and rich ones get away by bribing the officials.

When Paris asked for VAR it was given to them by the referee and it was correct to void the goal however when Real scored a regular goal because Benzema didn’t touch the ball the VAR was not given to Real.I am not saying Paris did not deserve to win they played better than Real all the time but I want to point out we have still flaws in the system.

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September 19, 2019, 06:02:46 AM
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Paris did a great job yesterday but the thing with the VAR is like the law in Balkan countries,it is applied on poor people without support and rich ones get away by bribing the officials.

When Paris asked for VAR it was given to them by the referee and it was correct to void the goal however when Real scored a regular goal because Benzema didn’t touch the ball the VAR was not given to Real.I am not saying Paris did not deserve to win they played better than Real all the time but I want to point out we have still flaws in the system.

Things like this have often happened in other big matches. And that really hurts, but behind it all we have to see the whole game PSG and Real Madrid. PSG dominates the game more, in fact I don't see Real Madrid as a big European team that can compete. And I must also admit that PSG deserved to win the match.
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September 19, 2019, 06:17:23 AM
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Did anyone watch RB Salzburg vs. Genk? WTF happened there, a 6:2 is very impressing and I wouldn't have expected such an outcome. Salzburg seems to be highly motivated, it's their first CL-season AFAIK. Very looking forward to the Liverpool match in two weeks, I am very excited if they can approve their top form.

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September 19, 2019, 06:39:57 AM
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PSG make the game look so easy and Neymar must think this time he can finally taste a medal for champions league but for me, Real cannot be the measuring stick anymore. They are just such a broken team right now. They will still progress I guess,,, but imagine if they meet a full squad of PSG what would the score have been?

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September 19, 2019, 07:34:41 AM
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Was the PSG RM match real. To be honest I didnt expect to see RM losing with such ease. At least I expect to see them score once at least.
Shame bu this is football, maybe it better for PSG to play without Neymar they play so much better, they should sell him this summer it would be better for them but seems like are more for the marketing money then him play.
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September 19, 2019, 08:02:25 AM
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I just don't understand why referee didn't gave penalty when Juve player touched ball with hand.
Because the ball was kicked towards his arm from about 1-2 meters out. There was nothing he could do. He didn't make any movement towards the ball, his teammate kicked it at him. Not a penalty in my opinion and good decision by the ref and the VAR.

I read a great comment yesterday night on one of the Juve social media sites that talked about the performance of Juventus with Khedira and without him.
Juventus was 3:0 up in Serie A, Khedira got substituted and Juventus conceded 3 goals.
They were also leading 2:0 VS Atl. Madrid, Khedira gets substituted and they concede two goals.   

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September 19, 2019, 08:33:17 AM
Last edit: September 19, 2019, 09:04:32 AM by coinlocket$
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So yesterday I saw the Juventus' match and I noticed many positive things.
Going to play the Sarri Ball in the house of is not easy even considering that a few months here Juventus had lost 3 to 0.
We were winning 2-0! They also could score the 3rd!

I do not agree with Pmalek about Khedira.
The fact that Juve has 5 goals with Napoli and Atletico from 3 to 0 towards 3 to 3 and from 2 to 0 to 2 to 2, is not due to Khedira's replacement.
Four of these five goals (like many others were taken during the preseason) are practically the same. They are goals taken from a standing kick.

The problem with these goals is the change introduced and wanted by the new coach Sarri.

With the old coach Allegri, Juventus defended to man, as well as with Conte. Juventus did it for eight years. This is his mentality.

Sarri wants a new, different way of defending. He wants to defend to zone, I think that's the reason. The change in the way of defending. They must learn to do it or, if they fail to do so, they must return to defend to the man in the area.

On actions during this official season the Juventus, so far, taken 1 goal in 4 games, all the other goals (4) have been practically the same and generated on the situation with a free-kick and defence deployed.


Anyway, this is still a great result but it could be better especially since they scored in the last 5 minutes.

Imagine if Ronaldo scored on his solo action at 94°! Cheesy

Real destroyed by PSG, if they will lose a game again they can risk the qualification!



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September 19, 2019, 09:02:51 AM
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Don’t get too excited about PSG guys, they always look like they could be a serious threat in the CL at the start but then choke when it gets serious. Real will still qualify from that group, I am certain of it.

Elsewhere, great comeback by Atleti at home to Juve, that showed some real balls.

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September 19, 2019, 10:57:58 AM
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@tomahawk9 if you had seen how Tottenham have been playing in the premier league this season, then you would not have been surprised by thier draw in yesterday’s match.
I did watch some of their games in the EPL and yeah they've been pretty underwhelming, I just thought they would change their mentality once the CL started, but it seems like they're still figuring out what to do on the pitch...But fair play to Olympiakos, I've heard they were pretty good in the 2nd half and deserved the win.

Who would have thought that Real Madrid would be defeated so easily, and I can’t help but wonder if they continue loosing matches will Zidane get the sack?.
Absolutely. He already lost all the credit he had before during the pre season and the clunky start in La Liga.

Don’t get too excited about PSG guys, they always look like they could be a serious threat in the CL at the start but then choke when it gets serious.
Yep, that's been the case in the last few seasons they've been in the Champions League. They'll face Galatasaray away in the next matchday, watch out for a upset there, this turkish team is different beast when playing at home.

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September 19, 2019, 02:59:37 PM
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Don’t get too excited about PSG guys, they always look like they could be a serious threat in the CL at the start but then choke when it gets serious.
Yep, that's been the case in the last few seasons they've been in the Champions League. They'll face Galatasaray away in the next matchday, watch out for a upset there, this turkish team is different beast when playing at home.

Agreed, PSG flatter to deceive at this level and the team doesn't seem to be in a better position than last year..
The crowd welcome in Turkey will be dialled right up, but the Galatasaray team are not what they were twenty years ago in terms of quality. Great spectacle though.

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September 19, 2019, 03:06:02 PM
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Quote from: Naida_BR link=topic=5163249.msg52495540#msg52495540

Such an unexpected result for Real Madrid. I was kind of sure that they won't be able to win this match but not to lose with so much scoring difference.
I think that Zidane is already in a bad position even if it is still early on the season.

I am actually not surprised if Real Madrid lost. It's just that they lost with a lot of goals. Another bad season for real Madrid, Real Madrid like losing his game. Be it a Domestic or Champions League match. At this rate, chances are that Real Madrid will fast the title again.

Well, it is actually very sad for Real Madrid spending so much money on forwards and they are not able to score even one goal.
I think that Madrid fans in Spain would not let it be so easy for Zidane. If the frustration begins, then the administration is going to try find a solution to alleviate the pain and sacking the manager is always the first step to this.
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September 19, 2019, 04:08:58 PM
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When Paris asked for VAR it was given to them by the referee and it was correct to void the goal however when Real scored a regular goal because Benzema didn’t touch the ball the VAR was not given to Real.I am not saying Paris did not deserve to win they played better than Real all the time but I want to point out we have still flaws in the system.

Firstly, clubs do not ask for VAR, it stands for video assistant referee, and there are officials who follow the game from a monitor and decide to act when the referee appears to make a clear error (only applies in game changing situations).
Benzema may not have touched the ball, but he arguably was interfering with play by blocking the keepers line of vision.

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September 19, 2019, 04:24:06 PM
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Incredible first half in Zagreb, Dinamo is completely dominating Atalanta and leads 3:0.

I knew that Dinamo will have chance against Atalanta but i didn't see this coming. They are good team, with one of the best  young players in Europe ( Dani Olmo) but i didn't expect this. I really hope they can continue like that in the 2nd half.

Bare in mind, Atalanta finished 3rd last season in Serie A, while scoring most goals (77) , so they are far from bad team, and that shows how good Dinamo Zagreb can be.




On the end, 4:0 for Dinamo Zagreb  Grin Grin
I believed that Dinamo have chances in this game but this was beyond all expectations.
Now they seem to have a very good chance of being second in the group, behind Manchester.
Olmo is a fantastic player and will soon be worth much more than the current € 40 million euros.
Watch him carefully!
Italian football, with the exception of Juventus, seems to be in deep crisis already long time.


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September 19, 2019, 04:40:16 PM
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On the first matchday Napoli made an upset win against Liverpool. Truly a disappointing thing to see for any Liverpool fan out here watching their first match in the Champions League. Napoli took advantage of their mistakes and turned it into quick goals. The first one was an awful defending made by Robertson that lead to theam having a penalty and the second one was really a careless move of thinking that even if its the full time they could be careless as much as possible. If I'm a Liverpool fan I would trult be disappointed in this upset win for Napoli.
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September 19, 2019, 04:54:27 PM
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Real and PSG will qualify together man, Galatasaray and Brugge literally has no chance surviving in that group and they will race for the UEFA cup for sure, if one of them becomes the third team they will be happy that their European tournament life continues and will not go back home.

PSG and Real will however not even worry about what they will do, of course they worry about the future parts of the cup but for now they are not even caring up this part of it since they know they will be first or second, the worst thing for them would be being second at this point since that would mean they will face a better rival on the next round. Yeah maybe PSG won against Real Madrid but do you really think Galatasaray or Brugge could beat Real madrid in the next games?

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September 19, 2019, 04:59:51 PM
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Anyway, I had a good first two nights. LOST 2 parlays in a row (thanks Liverpool and Real, but also Juventus and Barca, none could win!). Also lost a Lille upset but won my 10/1 Lokomotiv bet to put me in very good profit.

Now who said the group stages were predictable eh?
I still think the group stages are very much predictable because if we go back to some of the teams mentioned like take Liverpool....I think this one was a tough one because they had too much on their plate,first they had and have to defend their UEFA title and secondly they are epl leaders who have a tough match over the weekend which are says they played under pressure and I see these guys to be slow starters in such competitions.

Real Madrid well the Ronaldo magic is missing and playing against a PSG side that looks hungry for such a trophy they stood no chance knowing they aren't in their best of forms.
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September 19, 2019, 05:29:53 PM
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Real and PSG will qualify together man, Galatasaray and Brugge literally has no chance surviving in that group and they will race for the UEFA cup for sure, if one of them becomes the third team they will be happy that their European tournament life continues and will not go back home.


I am very happy with predictions like this. Not happy if this happened, but if it did not happen. Galatasaray and Brugge are not favorites to pass the next round. They might surprise you later, that's what I feared from your prediction. Even PSG or Real Madrid also have a chance not to qualify, so we just enjoy every moment.
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September 19, 2019, 05:41:27 PM
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Incredible first half in Zagreb, Dinamo is completely dominating Atalanta and leads 3:0.

I knew that Dinamo will have chance against Atalanta but i didn't see this coming. They are good team, with one of the best  young players in Europe ( Dani Olmo) but i didn't expect this. I really hope they can continue like that in the 2nd half.

Bare in mind, Atalanta finished 3rd last season in Serie A, while scoring most goals (77) , so they are far from bad team, and that shows how good Dinamo Zagreb can be.




On the end, 4:0 for Dinamo Zagreb  Grin Grin
I believed that Dinamo have chances in this game but this was beyond all expectations.
Now they seem to have a very good chance of being second in the group, behind Manchester.
Olmo is a fantastic player and will soon be worth much more than the current € 40 million euros.
Watch him carefully!
Italian football, with the exception of Juventus, seems to be in deep crisis already long time.



Regarding Dinamo Zagreb being 2nd in the group, while being possible, i don't think that it will happen. They have good chance for being 3rd though and continuing in Europa league. That would also be a very good result.

But maybe i'm just too cautious  as i got used to disappointments when it comes to Dinamo Zagreb and Euro games, i would say that this generation is even better than the one in the late 90s with Viduka, Prosinecki, Cvitanovic..

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September 19, 2019, 07:06:14 PM
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Paris did a great job yesterday but the thing with the VAR is like the law in Balkan countries,it is applied on poor people without support and rich ones get away by bribing the officials.

When Paris asked for VAR it was given to them by the referee and it was correct to void the goal however when Real scored a regular goal because Benzema didn’t touch the ball the VAR was not given to Real.I am not saying Paris did not deserve to win they played better than Real all the time but I want to point out we have still flaws in the system.

What are you talking about? Real Madrid isn't a "poor" club and it's silly to think about that. Asking for a referee for a VAR will always depend on how he views things if it's really necessary and the referees have their own biases towards every given situation sometimes if he isn't sure about the play then he could personally ask for VAR, if you have proof that there is a bribe going on then I'll believe you but just by trusting your word about it would just make you look like a salty fan believing that their team lose because the referee is favoring the other team.

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