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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129809 times)
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September 29, 2019, 06:14:58 PM
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so Barcelona should pay attention to the defense area and I think it will help them to return UCL trophy to their ShowCase.They need to do well in away matches too.

If talking about returning the UCL trophy to Barcelona, it seems less convincing for this season. You are right, their defense must be rethought and unfortunately their defense is not heeded or they are always convinced, CB is now able to deal with defense problems. Actually this is a fact, that Barcelona are always strong in the front line and inversely proportional to their back line.

It is too soon to say anything. Even in 2018-19 season, Barcelona had rough start in defence with Umtiti getting injured and Lenglet getting red card in his first game. Pique was making huge mistakes and cost 4 points to Barcelona. But as season progressed, defensive duties turned better and Barcelona had pretty fine last season except Liverpool disappointment.
Similarly, I feel defensive crisis will soon get over this season too. In one or two months, Umtiti will be ready. Also, rumours are out there that Barcelona is planning to sign Rugani in winter window. So they will have quite number of choices in defence by the start of next year when important matches will be played.
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September 29, 2019, 09:10:26 PM
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so Barcelona should pay attention to the defense area and I think it will help them to return UCL trophy to their ShowCase.They need to do well in away matches too.

If talking about returning the UCL trophy to Barcelona, it seems less convincing for this season. You are right, their defense must be rethought and unfortunately their defense is not heeded or they are always convinced, CB is now able to deal with defense problems. Actually this is a fact, that Barcelona are always strong in the front line and inversely proportional to their back line.

It is too soon to say anything. Even in 2018-19 season, Barcelona had rough start in defence with Umtiti getting injured and Lenglet getting red card in his first game. Pique was making huge mistakes and cost 4 points to Barcelona. But as season progressed, defensive duties turned better and Barcelona had pretty fine last season except Liverpool disappointment.
Similarly, I feel defensive crisis will soon get over this season too. In one or two months, Umtiti will be ready. Also, rumours are out there that Barcelona is planning to sign Rugani in winter window. So they will have quite number of choices in defence by the start of next year when important matches will be played.
I still think Liverpool has the best chance to win the champions league this season along with Juventus and Barcelona. But I think Liverpool is still a step ahead in terms of team chemistry and general play. Group stage is very crucial for Liverpool though as they always struggle to get through. Juventus has a tough group and Barcelona still has defensive issues. The group stage is very crucial and December might give a better picture for the knockouts.
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September 30, 2019, 02:19:12 AM
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Barcelona has always focused on improving the quality of the midfielders so that the attackers and the money they spend is very much on that position. But, they forget that the quality of their defender is not good.

 
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September 30, 2019, 03:53:36 AM
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so Barcelona should pay attention to the defense area and I think it will help them to return UCL trophy to their ShowCase.They need to do well in away matches too.

If talking about returning the UCL trophy to Barcelona, it seems less convincing for this season. You are right, their defense must be rethought and unfortunately their defense is not heeded or they are always convinced, CB is now able to deal with defense problems. Actually this is a fact, that Barcelona are always strong in the front line and inversely proportional to their back line.

It is too soon to say anything. Even in 2018-19 season, Barcelona had rough start in defence with Umtiti getting injured and Lenglet getting red card in his first game. Pique was making huge mistakes and cost 4 points to Barcelona. But as season progressed, defensive duties turned better and Barcelona had pretty fine last season except Liverpool disappointment.
Similarly, I feel defensive crisis will soon get over this season too. In one or two months, Umtiti will be ready. Also, rumours are out there that Barcelona is planning to sign Rugani in winter window. So they will have quite number of choices in defence by the start of next year when important matches will be played.
I still think Liverpool has the best chance to win the champions league this season along with Juventus and Barcelona. But I think Liverpool is still a step ahead in terms of team chemistry and general play. Group stage is very crucial for Liverpool though as they always struggle to get through. Juventus has a tough group and Barcelona still has defensive issues. The group stage is very crucial and December might give a better picture for the knockouts.
I fully support Juventus but at this stage of the group Juventus have opponents like Atletico Madrid, for other groups I support clubs from other Serie A and hope the final match comes from an Italian club.

 
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September 30, 2019, 05:26:02 AM
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so Barcelona should pay attention to the defense area and I think it will help them to return UCL trophy to their ShowCase.They need to do well in away matches too.
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It is too soon to say anything. Even in 2018-19 season, Barcelona had rough start in defence with Umtiti getting injured and Lenglet getting red card in his first game. Pique was making huge mistakes and cost 4 points to Barcelona. But as season progressed, defensive duties turned better and Barcelona had pretty fine last season except Liverpool disappointment.
Similarly, I feel defensive crisis will soon get over this season too. In one or two months, Umtiti will be ready. Also, rumours are out there that Barcelona is planning to sign Rugani in winter window. So they will have quite number of choices in defence by the start of next year when important matches will be played.
I still think Liverpool has the best chance to win the champions league this season along with Juventus and Barcelona. But I think Liverpool is still a step ahead in terms of team chemistry and general play. Group stage is very crucial for Liverpool though as they always struggle to get through. Juventus has a tough group and Barcelona still has defensive issues. The group stage is very crucial and December might give a better picture for the knockouts.

For me, Juventus isn't even among Top 5 contenders of winning Champions League this year. They have very less attacking prowess, I doubt if Juventus would be able save its domestic title (Inter Milan is on fire this season) let alone Champions league.
Liverpool lost their first group match against Napoli but it cannot be taken as much concern because like Barcelona, Liverpool too have bad away match reputation. But once they play at Anfield, story changes altogether. Also they have two weak teams in group so i won't be surprised if Liverpool win all of their next 5 games in group-stage.
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September 30, 2019, 11:59:52 AM
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For Barcelona I think this session is very prestigious for this Spanish champion, last couple of years they lost their destiny in this UCL in the away match, it's really unbelievable to lose by conceding more than 3 goals in the last three sessions, it's really incredible for their fans, Lol. so they are trying to make a good combination both home and away game by signing some shining star like Grizzman and de young, but their defensive line is not stronger as they have forward lined up. so Barcelona should pay attention to the defense area and I think it will help them to return UCL trophy to their ShowCase.They need to do well in away matches too.

English clubs are favorites. Liverpool can do that one time again or maybe Guardiola with Manchester City can win
For sure Barca Real or even Atletico will count
Or maybe we will have mega surprise and PSG gonna win.That could be something

 
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September 30, 2019, 12:17:48 PM
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Or maybe we will have mega surprise and PSG gonna win.That could be something

I honestly doubt PSG can progress further than quarter-finalist. They didn't perform that well, and in some matches, they got 'lucky' because Neymar, which in fact, is evident not going to stay in PSG if he has the chance to leave.

Last season they failed to progress further because of Man United. If they see another team that's better than Man United (especially considering how bad MU is right now), then it would be a tough game.
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September 30, 2019, 12:37:03 PM
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Or maybe we will have mega surprise and PSG gonna win.That could be something

I honestly doubt PSG can progress further than quarter-finalist. They didn't perform that well, and in some matches, they got 'lucky' because Neymar, which in fact, is evident not going to stay in PSG if he has the chance to leave.

Last season they failed to progress further because of Man United. If they see another team that's better than Man United (especially considering how bad MU is right now), then it would be a tough game.

This year I think they can progress further than quarter finals based on what I have seen in their first game,a really great football show and a great win against Real Madrid.I think they are capable of progressing and I think they may even reach the finals,Mauro Icardi is a great forwarder and together with Cavani can be a goal mean machine.

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September 30, 2019, 12:43:50 PM
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PSG finally invested a bit into their midfield and it is showing on the pitch. I think that this season they will be amongst favorites but weak league and lack of games where they need to defend will again be their biggest problem. They simply cannot prepare for big CL games by playing Ligue 1.

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September 30, 2019, 01:01:10 PM
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PSG finally invested a bit into their midfield and it is showing on the pitch. I think that this season they will be amongst favorites but weak league and lack of games where they need to defend will again be their biggest problem. They simply cannot prepare for big CL games by playing Ligue 1.
Thats why it is very important when the domestic leagues every club plays in is very competitive, when there is a lot of competition in the local leagues, the clubs strive to do better each season and they better themselves as a result. PSG will undoubtedly win the Ligue 1 title again and the only place where they seem to be challenged is in the Champions League and that is not enough.
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September 30, 2019, 01:07:43 PM
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Any thoughts about Valencia - Ajax?

Still hoping that Ajax win but last weekend they didn't had such great game against Groningen. But it seems that in European matches they play a lot better then in the Eredivisie.

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September 30, 2019, 01:09:33 PM
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What do you guys think about Dinamo chances against Man. City? I know that City is probably in the top 10 or even top 5 teams in the world, but do you think that Dinamo have any chance to have at least a dignified defeat (I'm not sure if that's the right phrase  Smiley )? I'm talking about a chance to not get humiliated by losing 5-0 or more.

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September 30, 2019, 01:18:03 PM
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PSG finally invested a bit into their midfield and it is showing on the pitch. I think that this season they will be amongst favorites but weak league and lack of games where they need to defend will again be their biggest problem. They simply cannot prepare for big CL games by playing Ligue 1.
Thats why it is very important when the domestic leagues every club plays in is very competitive, when there is a lot of competition in the local leagues, the clubs strive to do better each season and they better themselves as a result. PSG will undoubtedly win the Ligue 1 title again and the only place where they seem to be challenged is in the Champions League and that is not enough.

It is true that Lique 1 is not that tough compared to the Spanish, EPL and Bundesliga but it is maybe a blessing on PSG to at least stay healthy. Last season was a big big disaster for PSG. Given an easier Lique 1 then playing time can be lessened on some key players. UEFA is the main goal here. A healthy PSG squad is a minimum quarter finals level of a team.


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September 30, 2019, 01:21:38 PM
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What do you guys think about Dinamo chances against Man. City? I know that City is probably in the top 10 or even top 5 teams in the world, but do you think that Dinamo have any chance to have at least a dignified defeat (I'm not sure if that's the right phrase  Smiley )? I'm talking about a chance to not get humiliated by losing 5-0 or more.
Hmm, this Man City vs Dinamo match play at Man City home, so i think it will be a hard match for Dinamo. I want to see the lineup for Man City first, if man city using their 2nd team or resting their key player then dinamo will not get humiliated.
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September 30, 2019, 01:27:24 PM
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What do you guys think about Dinamo chances against Man. City? I know that City is probably in the top 10 or even top 5 teams in the world, but do you think that Dinamo have any chance to have at least a dignified defeat (I'm not sure if that's the right phrase  Smiley )? I'm talking about a chance to not get humiliated by losing 5-0 or more.

Hmm, this Man City vs Dinamo match play at Man City home, so i think it will be a hard match for Dinamo. I want to see the lineup for Man City first, if man city using their 2nd team or resting their key player then dinamo will not get humiliated.

Yeah, you're probably right. If it was the first game, and Man City underestimated Dinamo then maybe (but only MAYBE) Dinamo would have a chance to draw against them. But since they saw what Dinamo did in the first game against Atalanta, I don't think they will underestimate them. But they could rest their key players...

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September 30, 2019, 01:33:30 PM
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PSG finally invested a bit into their midfield and it is showing on the pitch. I think that this season they will be amongst favorites but weak league and lack of games where they need to defend will again be their biggest problem. They simply cannot prepare for big CL games by playing Ligue 1.
This PSG has a very good squad in every position but when they play at UCL their appearance in my opinion is slightly decreased. because of that, they haven't been able to get to the semifinal stage.

 
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September 30, 2019, 01:59:08 PM
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What do you guys think about Dinamo chances against Man. City? I know that City is probably in the top 10 or even top 5 teams in the world, but do you think that Dinamo have any chance to have at least a dignified defeat (I'm not sure if that's the right phrase  Smiley )? I'm talking about a chance to not get humiliated by losing 5-0 or more.

Hmm, this Man City vs Dinamo match play at Man City home, so i think it will be a hard match for Dinamo. I want to see the lineup for Man City first, if man city using their 2nd team or resting their key player then dinamo will not get humiliated.

Yeah, you're probably right. If it was the first game, and Man City underestimated Dinamo then maybe (but only MAYBE) Dinamo would have a chance to draw against them. But since they saw what Dinamo did in the first game against Atalanta, I don't think they will underestimate them. But they could rest their key players...

I think that Dinamo have much better chance with Manchester  in the last match in the group,  in Zagreb.
I'm sure that Manchester will already secure first place in the group before this match and I think they will rest main players for other important games in national championship.
Only chance tomorrow for Dinamo is fact that some defense  players in Manchester are injured and can't play.

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September 30, 2019, 02:15:07 PM
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What do you guys think about Dinamo chances against Man. City? I know that City is probably in the top 10 or even top 5 teams in the world, but do you think that Dinamo have any chance to have at least a dignified defeat (I'm not sure if that's the right phrase  Smiley )? I'm talking about a chance to not get humiliated by losing 5-0 or more.

Hmm, this Man City vs Dinamo match play at Man City home, so i think it will be a hard match for Dinamo. I want to see the lineup for Man City first, if man city using their 2nd team or resting their key player then dinamo will not get humiliated.

Yeah, you're probably right. If it was the first game, and Man City underestimated Dinamo then maybe (but only MAYBE) Dinamo would have a chance to draw against them. But since they saw what Dinamo did in the first game against Atalanta, I don't think they will underestimate them. But they could rest their key players...

I think that Dinamo have much better chance with Manchester  in the last match in the group,  in Zagreb.
I'm sure that Manchester will already secure first place in the group before this match and I think they will rest main players for other important games in national championship.
Only chance tomorrow for Dinamo is fact that some defense  players in Manchester are injured and can't play.
I don't think Dinamo Zagreb has any chance against Man City. They are playing some really good football at the moment. Also Aguero was given rest at the weekend and I think he will definitely start with Bernardo silva and sterling. A really easy win for Man City in this fixture.
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September 30, 2019, 02:26:03 PM
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Only chance tomorrow for Dinamo is fact that some defense players in Manchester are injured and can't play.

I think that MC has adequate substitutions for each position, so the absence of two defensive players is almost no advantage for Dinamo. You probably think on Aymeric Laporte and John Stones, but I do not know how long they have been injured.

MC is currently machine for goals, and I doubt Dinamo can leave home without at least three goals in their net which would be no shame. But every team has its bad day and bad luck, so even though the chances are very small, no one should be written off in advance.

Decent preview about this game: https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/man-city/champions-league/preview/preview-man-city-vs-dinamo-zagreb-prediction-team-news-lineups_373330.html

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September 30, 2019, 02:30:11 PM
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PSG finally invested a bit into their midfield and it is showing on the pitch. I think that this season they will be amongst favorites but weak league and lack of games where they need to defend will again be their biggest problem. They simply cannot prepare for big CL games by playing Ligue 1.
This PSG has a very good squad in every position but when they play at UCL their appearance in my opinion is slightly decreased. because of that, they haven't been able to get to the semifinal stage.
Even though PSG have invested in their midfield ,they are very big bottle jobs when it comes to the knockout stage. I don't see them getting past teams like Atletico, Bayern, Juventus,City and Liverpool. I would call these teams have a better chance than PSG. Last year PSG were the favourites to go through against United but surrendered a two goal advantage at home, with a tougher opposition it would have been even worse.
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