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July 11, 2019, 07:23:05 AM
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Disgusting you name it Xapo wallet Im already downloaded it. until now still here in my phone. But thanks i never use it anyway. Backup phrase is very important including the exporting function. if xapo doesnt have these features will its outdated already. But i think there is some loyal users still using it. because Xapo was already exist before i join in the crypto-space. just look around there is too many wallets already exist with cool tech features.
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July 11, 2019, 07:39:56 AM
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It turned out that my guess was right, I had always avoided various mobile wallets. But if there's no backup phrase, at least choose the one that give control to private key for each address that we have, like what blockchain wallet doing. I'm still new using it, and I just use it to get XLM airdrop before and then I remove it.

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July 11, 2019, 07:48:31 AM
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Not all mobile wallets have backup ,just because they are available for your smartphone doesnt mean they are reliable
Do not use mobile wallets with just username and passwords ,they are called online wallets ,they have no backup phrase or private keys.
For example I lost my bitcoin to xapo wallet since 2018 and they denied me of my coins after sending them mails.
Mobile wallet are easy developing by everyone to scaming use popularity bitcoin, I saw on playstore has alot of mobile wallet 'shit wallet' and use Bitcoin as key search on playstore. You have to go https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet and choose one there for mobile wallet
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July 11, 2019, 09:02:30 AM
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I just don't use mobile wallets at all, they're a huge security risk IMO.
Mobile platforms are riddled with malware and the security of most mobile wallets leaves a lot to be desired.

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July 11, 2019, 01:45:52 PM
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Not all mobile wallets have backup ,just because they are available for your smartphone doesnt mean they are reliable
Do not use mobile wallets with just username and passwords ,they are called online wallets ,they have no backup phrase or private keys.
For example I lost my bitcoin to xapo wallet since 2018 and they denied me of my coins after sending them mails.
That is quite unfortunate. Although, i have been in the crypto space for quite some time now and i never knew and cared about this.
Most if the times, we clamour to have mobile wallets, but which sometimes can be used against one.
Some even promise to airdrop and tell you to download their wallets. Out of every 100 persons that download it, 5 of them might be noob and go ahead to store their coins on them.
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July 11, 2019, 02:01:33 PM
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I would stay away from any software that do not provide a backup security, especially software that is related to crypto currencies. You should always have a private key, a buckup phrase and a password to stay completely safe.
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July 11, 2019, 09:55:53 PM
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This is very good advice especially for newbies who do not know better, when I started this cryptocurrency journey, I was just opening random wallets and didn't even know to back them up, for example my blockchain wallet was opened with my email and password back in the days and I didn't even back it up until like 3yrs after opening the wallet, even if you open a wallet with backup phrase, Endavour to always store your keys very carefully and preferably the old fashioned way of writing it down in multiple places offline and store them in secure locations that you can easily remember.

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July 11, 2019, 09:59:42 PM
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For example I lost my bitcoin to xapo wallet since 2018 and they denied me of my coins after sending them mails.
Sorry about your loss with xapo, I've used them before but didn't deposit that much. Your reminder about not using online wallets is actually true, there are newbies these days that prefer to use such wallets because they think it's reliable and they are strong in security but the reality is they are not. If something turns badly, you'll be left behind together with your coins and you don't have a way to claim it.

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July 11, 2019, 10:16:59 PM
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Totally I have similar thought with you. Security of the online wallet must be important and we must have the secure backup, at least two ways authentication in order to avoid some bad things happen. So sad to hear what you experienced. However, so far, an online wallet is actually risky. But of course, it sometimes becomes the only choice and we must use it. Activate the other secure authentication to enter your online wallet and ensure that you can keep and secure the ways.
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July 11, 2019, 10:28:36 PM
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You have said the truth the way it is. Most people are to understand everything about blockchain and the reason why private keys or backup phrase is very important, as it is these keys or phrases that gives the user of that wallet the power to do whatsoever he wants while maintaining his privacy at all times. So any wallet no matter the developer without private keys or backup phrase should be kept at a distance as it is not worthy to be used because the developers can access the user's funds.

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July 11, 2019, 11:28:42 PM
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Do not use mobile wallets with just username and passwords ,they are called online wallets ,they have no backup phrase or private keys.

Exactly. Moreover, most of these online wallets are scams that appropriate your coins when you try to withdraw funds from your balance.

It should be noted that the smartphone is not a trusted device in general, but for Ethereum you can download from Google Play and install, for example, Cipher Browser, Toshi, Trust Wallet. These applications are safe and securely store the backup phrase or private keys in the Android's DATA folder. They also support iOS.
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July 12, 2019, 01:00:22 AM
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What wallets would that be?



Don't most wallets have a backup phrase?  I do know one that does not but how many are there?
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July 12, 2019, 07:16:25 AM
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I honestly do not trust mobile wallets at all. I use them only in extreme cases for any "through" transactions (that is, I received it and sent it right away), or if there is no access to a full-fledged desktop or hardware wallet.
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July 12, 2019, 07:49:19 AM
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Why don't you guys come and try https://eidoo.io/desktop-downloadWink
We are an HD(Hierarchical Deterministic) wallet with a 12-word backup seed from which you can extract your private key at any time. We do not store your password or your back-up seed, and your assets are stored on the blockchain, so as long as you have you back-up words you can install the wallet anytime and on any device.
We also have a Hybrid Exchange, the possibility to buy Crypto with Wire Transfer and Credit card and #Swipe2swap.
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July 12, 2019, 07:49:30 AM
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Not all mobile wallets have backup ,just because they are available for your smartphone doesnt mean they are reliable
Do not use mobile wallets with just username and passwords ,they are called online wallets ,they have no backup phrase or private keys.
For example I lost my bitcoin to xapo wallet since 2018 and they denied me of my coins after sending them mails.
Sorry about that, it is really risky to entrust our coin into a wallet that does not have backup phrase to recover account at any time, and there is nothing that the company you lost your coin to would have done to proof you are the rightful owner of the coin, if you cannot remember your password or your log in details.

I use exodus wallet, it is a desktop wallet though and I don’t think I have had any regret ever using this wallet, I have forgotten my password several times, but with the help of the my backup phrase, I was able to recover my wallet back, and I think people can check this EXODUS WALLET out, they really have nice features too, and you can exchange and swap some of your coins directly. Another great wallet that does not give any issue is the hard wallet, very reliable and cannot be hacked.

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July 12, 2019, 08:21:52 AM
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Any wallet without backup words or phrases have something fishy going on; that is to say the developers can access users funds or rather users have no control over there funds. Like you rightly said, making it available for your smartphone doesn't mean it's right to be used. We should learn of how to protect ourselves from all these unnecessary risks.

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July 12, 2019, 08:59:05 AM
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Using online wallet mostly means that users accept risks of losing their money, because they don't have full control of their wallets and private keys. In bad cases, when online wallet providers don't have good protection mechanism and /or have bad intention to steal money from their users, those users will lose their money stored in online wallets.

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July 12, 2019, 11:50:25 PM
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Backup phrase is like a key we use to secure our wallets thus making it ultimately ours and that is to say, if there is no backup phrase then we have no control over the said wallet. All those online wallets without this backup phrase is not trustworthy and there is no doubt about it, therefore the developers of that wallet can manipulate to get what they want. Let's be mindful of this important things.
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July 13, 2019, 07:30:35 AM
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Thanks for bringing this up and sincerely hope those who are making this mistake will learn from it. Any wallet without backup phrase strictly shows the wallet is in control by the developers and that is the truth. Backup phrase gives the users of that wallet the power to determine what happens within that wallet so what happens if there is none? The user remains powerless.
There are many trusted wallets out there, for every coin let's get the good wallet from the developers of that coin and not the ones we think is right thereby installing them.

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July 13, 2019, 07:57:29 AM
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For bitcoin, it's better to use Electrum mobile version which has its seed key. On the other hand, other android wallet for their own project like VenaPi which I'm using has also their private key.
Online wallet should be ignored, even coinbase and blockchain as well.

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