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July 11, 2019, 09:23:01 AM
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Hey everyone,
Im new here and with the BTC things.
I made yesterday my first transfer of 68$, which looks like it stuck ( blockchain.info)
If any1 can help me mine that, I can pay 1$ fees.
my transfer id: 5687454885313ecd7f980e248383be1c1d2358537a948cc674cafb1782e0f82a
thanks, roy.

Btw, just now saw that there is post not using blockchain.info anymore Sad too late for me
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July 11, 2019, 09:25:11 AM
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You paid 1.013 sat/B which means to confirm this transaction, it will take quite long time. However do not worry this will be confirmed eventually. I am also wearing the same shoes like you. I also have a transaction of 1 sat/B from the last two days and I am not worried at all. Right now my tx position in mempool is 17.86MB from tip and I am pretty sure your one is too.

If you are in hurry then you can increase the fees but if you are not in a time sensitive position then don't mind. Just leave it as it is now.

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July 11, 2019, 09:33:54 AM
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~snip~

Btw, just now saw that there is post not using blockchain.info anymore Sad too late for me

Is this your wallet or you are talking about exploring the transaction you have posted above?

If you are using blockchain.info (currently it's basically blockchain.com) as your wallet then I would say it is safer to use a desktop wallet than to use a web wallet. You can use Electrum, very easy to use.

However, if you are talking about exploring the tx above then there are nothing much to discuss. blockchain.com is just an explorer here and like them there are many explorers already exist. Example: blockchair.com, chain.so and so on.

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July 11, 2019, 09:36:33 AM
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If any1 can help me mine that, I can pay 1$ fees.
You might be able to use RBF (Replace by Fee) or CPFP (Child pays for Parent, assuming 1fNh9H58oKapPnGm8b7HZAK4yZh9mdkVC is your change address), but I'm not sure how to do exactly this on blockchain.info's web wallet.

Alternatively, if you're not in a hurry, wait for the weekend. Usually, the required fee is lowest on Sunday, so I expect your transaction to confirm in 3 days.

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July 11, 2019, 09:47:14 AM
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Thanks everyone, you guys awesome! So fast replied.
I actually need it as fast as I can get. I tried to check increase the fees at the web but I didn't see the option there. I don't care to pay more, just didn't know before how it works😥
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July 11, 2019, 10:15:56 AM
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The recommended fee at the moment for a relatively fast transaction is now between 5-10 Sat/Byte according to https://coinb.in/#fees
In the future you can use that as a reference when deciding what fees to enter.
Unless there is a new and sudden jump in the price it might get confirmed by tomorrow morning.

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July 11, 2019, 10:29:10 AM
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Thanks everyone, you guys awesome! So fast replied.
I actually need it as fast as I can get. I tried to check increase the fees at the web but I didn't see the option there. I don't care to pay more, just didn't know before how it works😥
As what mentioned by LoyceV if the other address is also on your blockchain wallet you can do CPFP since they allow spending unconfirmed coins. To do that you need to send all of your balance to another address or use the same address if you like but with a very higher transaction fee so that the other transaction with the low fee will be mined at the same time.  

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To do that you need to send all of your balance to another address or use the same address if you like but with a very higher transaction fee so that the other transaction with the low fee will be mined at the same time.
Correct. But since the remaining amount is only 0.00005090 BTC, there's not much to work with. It could be "burned" as fee entirely (the value is less than the 1 dollar OP wants to spend on it), but I doubt blockchain.info allows that.

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July 11, 2019, 10:47:25 AM
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Perfect time to test and see if any of the old accelerators still work! I just put your tx through Antpool's (free) accelerator, it must have been over a year since I last used but it still seems to work as before. Accepted the tx but no way of knowing if they really do line it up. We'll know if this confirms later and it's in an Antpool block I guess, not that that's confirmation it worked?

20 hour old transaction with pool at 30k unconfirmed... of which 23k are 1-2 sat/byte in fees.

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July 11, 2019, 11:00:54 AM
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Perfect time to test and see if any of the old accelerators still work! I just put your tx through Antpool's (free) accelerator, it must have been over a year since I last used but it still seems to work as before. Accepted the tx but no way of knowing if they really do line it up. We'll know if this confirms later and it's in an Antpool block I guess, not that that's confirmation it worked?

20 hour old transaction with pool at 30k unconfirmed... of which 23k are 1-2 sat/byte in fees.

Thank you! And all the other guys that really tried to help❤, I guess the only way for me is the wait since i don't really understand that crypto language.
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July 11, 2019, 11:17:12 AM
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Correct. But since the remaining amount is only 0.00005090 BTC, there's not much to work with. It could be "burned" as fee entirely (the value is less than the 1 dollar OP wants to spend on it), but I doubt blockchain.info allows that.
That's true assuming that the OP only has that one UTXO left in their wallet... However, if they have other coins as well, then it wouldn't be that difficult.


I tried to check increase the fees at the web but I didn't see the option there.
It's right in the send dialog "Customize Fee":


Once you click that, you can set what you like:


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Correct. But since the remaining amount is only 0.00005090 BTC, there's not much to work with. It could be "burned" as fee entirely (the value is less than the 1 dollar OP wants to spend on it), but I doubt blockchain.info allows that.
That's true assuming that the OP only has that one UTXO left in their wallet... However, if they have other coins as well, then it wouldn't be that difficult.


I tried to check increase the fees at the web but I didn't see the option there.
It's right in the send dialog "Customize Fee":
https://i.imgur.com/RBYhA8k.png

Once you click that, you can set what you like:
https://i.imgur.com/51ZiWJ5.png

I can do it only before the payment, right? I guess it's too late now
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I can do it only before the payment, right? I guess it's too late now
Depends, did you blockchain.info enable RBF?

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{"txid":"5687454885313ecd7f980e248383be1c1d2358537a948cc674cafb1782e0f82a",,"[b]sequence":4294967295[/b]}],"
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So that probably means you aren't signalling for RBF, (RBF is, someone correct me if i'm wrong, anything <0xffffffff)  in which case, no you can't.

Another reason to switch to a software wallet.

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July 11, 2019, 04:09:10 PM
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However, if they have other coins as well, then it wouldn't be that difficult.
I can do it only before the payment, right? I guess it's too late now
not too late if you want to do CPFP transaction, but answer these questions first
- is the change amount 0.00005090 BTC back to your blockchain wallet?
- do you have more balance than that in your blockchain wallet?
if yes to both questions, then you can try perform CPFP transaction

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Hey!
To the first question, no, nothing came back to my account.
And the second question, I do have some more balance inside. I don't care pay even 5$ if there any service like that.
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Hey!
To the first question, no, nothing came back to my account.
And the second question, I do have some more balance inside. I don't care pay even 5$ if there any service like that.
If you want to do a CPFP, you'll probably need to

A. export your current blockchain.info wallet into electrum. Download electrum, get the seed from your blockchain.info wallet, check the BIP39 box, and you should be able to import your wallet.
B. Follow this guide, https://bitcoinelectrum.com/how-to-do-a-manual-child-pays-for-parent-transaction/

But this is only possible if you control the outputs that are being made here in this transaction. (Is that the case?)
(You could try CPFP the change address but i doubt that that 5000 sat is going to improve things.)





Or you could accelerate your tx:
https://pushtx.btc.com/unpaid/5687454885313ecd7f980e248383be1c1d2358537a948cc674cafb1782e0f82a

Which is definitely not worth it.

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Hey!
To the first question, no, nothing came back to my account.
And the second question, I do have some more balance inside. I don't care pay even 5$ if there any service like that.
If you want to do a CPFP, you'll probably need to

A. export your current blockchain.info wallet into electrum. Download electrum, get the seed from your blockchain.info wallet, check the BIP39 box, and you should be able to import your wallet.
B. Follow this guide, https://bitcoinelectrum.com/how-to-do-a-manual-child-pays-for-parent-transaction/

But this is only possible if you control the outputs that are being made here in this transaction. (Is that the case?)
(You could try CPFP the change address but i doubt that that 5000 sat is going to improve things.)





Or you could accelerate your tx:
https://pushtx.btc.com/unpaid/5687454885313ecd7f980e248383be1c1d2358537a948cc674cafb1782e0f82a

Which is definitely not worth it.

It's so complicated for me, I will wait until tomorrow, if not ill just pay 26$ to this site Sad And I thought using bitcoin is easy haha shame on me
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July 11, 2019, 05:32:14 PM
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To the first question, no, nothing came back to my account.
are you sure? did you manually set 2 destination addresses in your transaction
if you only send to 1 address, then the other output is a change address in your wallet

And the second question, I do have some more balance inside. I don't care pay even 5$ if there any service like that.
(You could try CPFP the change address but i doubt that that 5000 sat is going to improve things.)
he can use another input with that change amount in a CPFP transaction
I think blockchain wallet has coin control to do that, to include enough inputs
then boost the new transaction fee to cover both transactions

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July 11, 2019, 09:30:57 PM
Merited by LoyceV (2)
 #19

To the first question, no, nothing came back to my account.
You likely won't see it "come back"... it's a slightly misleading way to describe what change is. Your wallet will automatically detect that the 2nd output being created is being assigned to an address from your wallet, so it will recognise it as "change" and adjust your balances accordingly.

Bitcoin isn't like "internet banking" where you say send $68 to X... and it creates a transaction that sends exactly $68 to X... Generally, your wallet "balance" is actually made up of several "unspent transaction outputs" (UTXOs). These can be of all different values... and most likely, none will be the exact value that you're trying to send to someone.

So you wallet will group several together until it has enough to be greater than or equal to "the value you're trying to send + transaction fee". In your instance, you tried to send $68.33 and it used a UTXO that was worth, $69.02. It then broke that up into the $68.33 output... the $0.66 "change" output... and the rest ($0.03) was spent on fees.

You can read more about how "change" works here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Change


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And the second question, I do have some more balance inside. I don't care pay even 5$ if there any service like that.
It isn't a service... you just create a new transaction that spends the unconfirmed output from the first transaction and use a large fee to cover both the original AND the new transaction so that a miner wants that large fee and has to include both your stuck transaction and the new high fee transaction to claim their prize Wink

It would appear that you've attempted CPFP: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/ee137508d705a0f8b45d25d92be306055da9ae535ef1b96c4235439b6b8a5913

Unfortunately, it hasn't really added toooo much in the way of a fee boost. I think the average fee you've paid across the 2 transactions is now about 10 sats/byte.

Total Size of txes: 226 bytes + 192 bytes = 415 bytes
Total fees paid: 0.00000226 + 0.00003840 = 0.00004066 BTC

Total fee rate: 4066 sats / 415 bytes = 9.8 sats/byte (which in new terminology is ~2.5 sats/WeightUnit because it's non SegWit)

While that is a bit better than 1 sat/byte, it's not "huge", but it is a lot nearer to the top of the pile, so hopefully your transaction will be confirmed in the next few hours.

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July 11, 2019, 10:10:57 PM
 #20

To the first question, no, nothing came back to my account.
You likely won't see it "come back"... it's a slightly misleading way to describe what change is. Your wallet will automatically detect that the 2nd output being created is being assigned to an address from your wallet, so it will recognise it as "change" and adjust your balances accordingly.

Bitcoin isn't like "internet banking" where you say send $68 to X... and it creates a transaction that sends exactly $68 to X... Generally, your wallet "balance" is actually made up of several "unspent transaction outputs" (UTXOs). These can be of all different values... and most likely, none will be the exact value that you're trying to send to someone.

So you wallet will group several together until it has enough to be greater than or equal to "the value you're trying to send + transaction fee". In your instance, you tried to send $68.33 and it used a UTXO that was worth, $69.02. It then broke that up into the $68.33 output... the $0.66 "change" output... and the rest ($0.03) was spent on fees.

You can read more about how "change" works here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Change


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And the second question, I do have some more balance inside. I don't care pay even 5$ if there any service like that.
It isn't a service... you just create a new transaction that spends the unconfirmed output from the first transaction and use a large fee to cover both the original AND the new transaction so that a miner wants that large fee and has to include both your stuck transaction and the new high fee transaction to claim their prize Wink

It would appear that you've attempted CPFP: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/ee137508d705a0f8b45d25d92be306055da9ae535ef1b96c4235439b6b8a5913

Unfortunately, it hasn't really added toooo much in the way of a fee boost. I think the average fee you've paid across the 2 transactions is now about 10 sats/byte.

Total Size of txes: 226 bytes + 192 bytes = 415 bytes
Total fees paid: 0.00000226 + 0.00003840 = 0.00004066 BTC

Total fee rate: 4066 sats / 415 bytes = 9.8 sats/byte (which in new terminology is ~2.5 sats/WeightUnit because it's non SegWit)

While that is a bit better than 1 sat/byte, it's not "huge", but it is a lot nearer to the top of the pile, so hopefully your transaction will be confirmed in the next few hours.


Wow mate, thank you so much!
So actually i did good that I tried to make another transaction with high fees?
And if I will add another transaction with high fees? Should it be even more better?
Sorry but I just feel so lost with this BTC world
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