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July 13, 2019, 08:13:06 AM |
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Should we not just simplify the list and name a single entry of: - the sham we currently pretend is government?
We'll be here all year listing all the different government bodies, politicians and so-called intelligence agencies.
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Lucius
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July 13, 2019, 11:40:46 AM |
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Well, that's actually all of the UN members states, but why should we trust or not to them when it comes to bitcoin? I have no positive opinion about UN, but I see Malta, Germany, Slovenia, Belarus as very friendly states toward cryptocurrency in general.
Fact that some country official twitter account (or President / Prime Minister) is follow some Donald or Hillary does not mean anything. I think many members of crypto community follow same people, just because they want to read something fun from time to time, and Trump tweets are sometimes very fun ( I am not follow him).
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July 13, 2019, 02:18:15 PM |
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You should add McAfee too. He's full of bs.😂 Anyway, Bitcoin is threatening their state by promotion of decentralization. So I always expect that someone will stand against it. We also knew that some people who stand against it are caught getting handful of Bitcoin. How ironic? Capitalism at it's finest. SMH
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July 13, 2019, 03:05:54 PM |
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I find Craig Wright and Roger Ver (and of course their minions) to belong at the very top of lists of entities to not trust. I'm more concerned about them than a government trying to protect its own incentives.
And below them, with a massive gap in between, we have con artists such as John McAfee. This dude is so unstable that he will betray the hand that fed him for so long just because of a change in his mood. Steer clear of him.
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July 13, 2019, 03:08:37 PM |
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People are offering to ass Jp Morgan (even though it's not a person) and McAfee. Honestly, clicking on the thread I also expected that kind of list of people. I would also add Craig Wright and Warren Buffett. But I agree with Lucius that it's unclear why the whole list of Member States of the UN is included. After all, each country has some supporters and some opposers, and not all of the leaders from these countries even made up their mind about Bitcoin. When it comes to trust and Bitcoin, though, I think we should not trust anyone in a sense that no reasonable predictions about what Bitcoin will be and how much will it cost can be made, no matter how bad or nice a certain person making these predictions is.
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July 13, 2019, 06:36:08 PM |
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You shouldn't be trusting anyone who is not yourself. That's kind of the point of the whole thing is it not?
I know it's a lot less convenient than letting someone else do it for you but perhaps everyone should pause briefly and ponder who they are trusting at present in their Bitcoininess. You might be balls deep in exchanges, SPV wallets, hardware wallets pushing updates you don't bother to check and more.
I like the idea of the proof of keys day or whatever it was. Perhaps there should be a trust audit day as well.
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July 13, 2019, 06:52:18 PM |
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i say when you cannot figure something yourself you need to relay on somebody like vitalik the founder of ethereum,
which mean even if billion people say to me this project is great and not scam and have hype(this is how the web dominated by scams) and vitalil say to me stay away ,i stand with him with closed my.
but it very rare to find people like vitalik
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July 13, 2019, 07:06:41 PM |
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Even non-bitcoiners don't trust governments, intelligence agencies and politicians, so what's the point of this thread? People also generally don't trust bankers, and a lot of cryptocurrency enthusiasts don't trust exchanges, but today's reality is that we have to live under the shadow of governments, we have to use banks, we have to vote and so on. Going off the grid is impossible for most people, revolution is extremely unlikely to happen, so slow change remains our best bet for making our society better.
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July 13, 2019, 08:22:52 PM |
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I don't know why do we even care for them. Why do we even need a list when we know this is what we want. We want them to buy Bitcoin and hold so we cannot say anything about it. We want them to join our community and realize what is the true power behind this technology. All they do is talk nonsense about this new technology and does not really follow what that se around the media.
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July 13, 2019, 10:55:16 PM |
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This confuses me. RealDonaldTrump? Do presidents have twitter accounts under their name? The account also has 52 million followers. It is so strange. Then you said the CIA and FBI. I mean come on that isn't really the CIA or FBI. I thought twitter banned fake accounts? How can these be real? I don't know what to believe but whoever controls that trump account and the others talk such nonsense. You shouldn't be trusting anyone who is not yourself. That's kind of the point of the whole thing is it not?
I know it's a lot less convenient than letting someone else do it for you but perhaps everyone should pause briefly and ponder who they are trusting at present in their Bitcoininess. You might be balls deep in exchanges, SPV wallets, hardware wallets pushing updates you don't bother to check and more.
I like the idea of the proof of keys day or whatever it was. Perhaps there should be a trust audit day as well.
You will have to trust someone at some point. You just need to be very careful.
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gentlemand
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July 13, 2019, 11:31:32 PM |
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You will have to trust someone at some point. You just need to be very careful.
You can vastly minimise the trust you're doling out with a bit more effort. Not all that many people are but the tools and learning are out there and further tools are being developed. The prime area where trust could do with being cut to the bone is exchanges and hopefully some day there'll be proper decentralised exchanges.
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July 13, 2019, 11:36:29 PM |
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I find Craig Wright and Roger Ver (and of course their minions) to belong at the very top of lists of entities to not trust. I'm more concerned about them than a government trying to protect its own incentives.
And below them, with a massive gap in between, we have con artists such as John McAfee. This dude is so unstable that he will betray the hand that fed him for so long just because of a change in his mood. Steer clear of him.
Those two are pretty much on the top of my list as well. I mean BCH and BSV? seriously? Anyways, those are heads of state, so it's obvious that they are distrusted at some point, they work in government so I wouldn't bother to read their tweets even if it concerns crypto.
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July 14, 2019, 02:04:59 AM |
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Add Facebook.
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July 14, 2019, 02:40:18 AM |
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Let us remain calm, everyone. We do not close our doors to anyone. We do not act like them, too aggressive and too hostile. It is understandable that these people will oppose Bitcoin for now. They will try their best to preserve the status quo. They have much benefit from it. They know however that the tide is on our side. Sooner or later, they will realize that a future designed for everyone is the future Bitcoin has always been proclaiming.
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July 14, 2019, 02:59:27 AM |
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what does UN and the government agencies have anything to do with bitcoin and whether you trust "them" about bitcoin or not?! that doesn't make any sense! they are not producing bitcoin or selling you bitcoin or even buying your bitcoin. it is all done by yourself and there is no trust involved in this world, the only trust is in the transparent and open source cryptography that is the backbone of bitcoin and nothing else.
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July 14, 2019, 05:26:12 AM |
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well i certainly don't trust 3-letter agencies and donald trump. but what about people who are actually involved with bitcoin? jihan wu, roger ver, stephen pair, craig wright, mike hearn, gavin andresen? people like this seem much more relevant.....
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July 14, 2019, 09:37:49 AM |
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They are politicians, bankers, and state governments. They do want to drop bitcoin because they are afraid that their country's currency will no longer be used and replaced by cryptocurrencies. We should not be affected by their words and tweets.
Except the banks could print unlimited money and sell at a loss or obtain all the supply for free pretty much like they do with everyone's work, goods, services and limited time with their unlimited $lavery supply Or just buy a shit load of asics and control dat network. The best play they could actually make right now, is Hijacking the price to the moon, so the average person can not obtain like they can, What they are doing is scare tatics and trying to get the supply through devaluation from weak hands, also a pretty solid tactic. The thing is they need the right balance, they need average people to have some of the supply, otherwise people will not use it.
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July 14, 2019, 09:42:58 AM |
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They are politicians, bankers, and state governments. They do want to drop bitcoin because they are afraid that their country's currency will no longer be used and replaced by cryptocurrencies. We should not be affected by their words and tweets.
Hi Ludmilla,I totally agree with your words!
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