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July 13, 2019, 03:15:56 AM
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its not excatly his fault in some sort of level yes but not fully the web is domainted by scams and tons of people fall this traps,

do you know how much people out there that invested in xrp and wait it to hit 50 usd which never will happen and they even dont listen to smart people which mean his brother in much more great position and not fully blind.

simple equation , example

max supply x price per coin = market cap

100B coins x 10 usd per coin = 1 trillion(1000B) market cap , to hit only 10 usd per coin for xrp and people wait for 50 usd.
21M coins  x  11,743 usd per coin = 209B market cap -- bitcoin



Nice example but did you read his post?

He said his brother invested in "Bitcoin Dice", that is gambling and not an altcoin. It is his Brother' fault. Why would you even invest there when you know that that is the only way you can help your sister. I know that they are desperate, but gambling? Really? There are a lot of ways you can help your sister and the first of them is loans, there is no way that there is no agency in their country that has no loans.
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July 13, 2019, 03:18:55 AM
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its not excatly his fault in some sort of level yes but not fully the web is domainted by scams and tons of people fall this traps,

do you know how much people out there that invested in xrp and wait it to hit 50 usd which never will happen and they even dont listen to smart people which mean his brother in much more great position and not fully blind.

simple equation , example

max supply x price per coin = market cap

100B coins x 10 usd per coin = 1 trillion(1000B) market cap , to hit only 10 usd per coin for xrp and people wait for 50 usd.
21M coins  x  11,743 usd per coin = 209B market cap -- bitcoin



Nice example but did you read his post?

He said his brother invested in "Bitcoin Dice", that is gambling and not an altcoin. It is his Brother' fault. Why would you even invest there when you know that that is the only way you can help your sister. I know that they are desperate, but gambling? Really? There are a lot of ways you can help your sister and the first of them is loans, there is no way that there is no agency in their country that has no loans.


i explained that his brother situation is better then the blind people of xrp.....he is much more in great position compare to dumbers that are fully blind and addicted in different way to much more big crap shit.

you know with gambling its end some where with xrp its long stable scam which in the end they do slow exit scam hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

they hold the biggest wallets
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July 13, 2019, 03:26:13 AM
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as long as you can not even figure out the root of the problem, you will not be able to solve your problem and move on with your life and have better days. you are in a way trying to find someone or something to blame instead of looking where the problem was.
all your issues stem from gambling addiction of your brother and as long as you are not admitting it, you will have problems. you have to accept it and seek professional help. it is not the end of the world!

the root problem is not only his problem the ROOT PROBLEM is that the web is domainted by scams/crap shit = google

then why not everyone else is not being scammed?
existence of scams is as old as human history, it is not just on the internet! and for thousands of years there have been people who have been scamming others and there have been gullible people who fell for their schemes. none of it has anything to do with bitcoin though!

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July 13, 2019, 04:54:09 AM
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My family prepared everything, from savings and family support. And loans lasted nearly ten years. All to prepare for treatment for the next week. Sometimes I wonder what money is, why it is so difficult for poor people like us. I don't blame anything, I just wish I had more time. It may be a few months for me to seek sponsorship from organizations to save my sister. I can't believe everything has happened in the past days.
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July 13, 2019, 05:05:41 AM
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He is not human. He is a demon. He may be wrong but he must speak up so we can find a way. It was not yesterday and everything could not be resolved in a few days. As I said, our whole family has extremely low income, and that money is also borrowed from the bank to make up for it.

2 days I tried to go online and find out what he said. Does he know what he lost to do, and I may have a chance to get it back.

I do not believe that a person can exchange anything real, to get something invisible and worthless. I do not understand. I really do not understand.
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July 13, 2019, 05:37:27 AM
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as long as you can not even figure out the root of the problem, you will not be able to solve your problem and move on with your life and have better days. you are in a way trying to find someone or something to blame instead of looking where the problem was.
all your issues stem from gambling addiction of your brother and as long as you are not admitting it, you will have problems. you have to accept it and seek professional help. it is not the end of the world!

the root problem is not only his problem the ROOT PROBLEM is that the web is domainted by scams/crap shit = google

I can't agree that the web is DOMINATED by scams.Yeah,there are a lot of scams and there always will be,but there are lots of ethical online businesses,who truly care about their customers.
OP's brother is a gambling addict and it's not bitcoin's fault or some online crypto dice game or casino's fault that he is a gambling addict.It's all about self-control and self-awareness.

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July 13, 2019, 08:03:50 AM
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What a risk, well every thing in life has a reason, base on the information your little brother had in crypto, by apply in gambling form with a cryptocurrency without going further knowledge how it works, moreover, its only smart people that always have advantage in gambling.
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July 13, 2019, 08:16:56 AM
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Another story blaming Bitcoin. When will people realize that we are the only ones responsible for the things that happen to us? That there is no one or nothing to blame but ourselves? Because it seems to me that most people like playing the 'blame game'.

We always have a choice, you know. And your brother is no exception. He also has a choice. Guess he just chose wrong and used Bitcoin not in a good way. I feel bad with what you are going through. But everything happens for a reason. You're given that life because you are strong enough to live it. Remember that. And enough with the thought that bitcoin ruined your family.

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July 13, 2019, 08:39:38 AM
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If all these really happened? Then it is sad story and maybe your family is under the influence of something that is bigger  than you and that force negative energy towards you and family that bring about misfortune. Bitcoin or dice has not contributed anything to the negative side of life that you and your family is experience as the same bitcoin has help me to come out of poverty and I am rich today because of it. Maybe your brother did not spend time to know how things work in cryptocurrency before investing into it and lose. However, I sympathize with your family and you guys need to change you mindset for things to change and that is the greatest secret of life.
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July 13, 2019, 09:38:44 AM
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Your title is missleading, your brother gambled your family`s funds away, it has nothing to do with bitcoin. It has to do with your brothers gambling problem.
Although, These bitcoin casinos do not check ID and you would win a court case vs them if your younger brother was underage making the bets.

However some examples of your title being true.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/bitcoin-robbery-torture-cryptocurrency-netherlands-a8807986.html
https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2018/12/141982-bitcoin-trader-abducted-tortured-robbed-in-south-africa/
http://www.iheartradio.ca/cjad/news/brothers-tied-up-sprayed-with-bleach-during-bitcoin-tech-robbery-1.3688714
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/20/17882636/zaif-japanese-bitcoin-exchange-cryptocurrency-digital-wallet-60-million
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/07/1-point-1b-in-cryptocurrency-was-stolen-this-year-and-it-was-easy-to-do.html
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-crime/article/2129665/hong-kong-bitcoin-trader-lured-bogus-meeting-and-robbed
https://cryptoslate.com/physical-bitcoin-attacks-and-burglaries-on-the-rise/

^ just type bitcoin robbery into google there is 100`s of the stories now and 1000`s upon 1000`s not reported.

and exchange/email hacks, lead to people suffering and losing all of their savings and yes it actually related to bitcoin.

As for your title, My email got hacked, The hacker pretended to be me to my Dad, stole my Dads coins from a exchange and mine. I did not talk to my Dad for a few years after that, he was convinced it was me because of the social engineering the hacker did and I thought it was some random person who turned out the hacker hacked their email I bet and social engineered me, leaving me almost killing the wrong person. Ah, well what can you do. Just be aware this shit happens I guess.

Know they will pay, they will live the lives of the ones they stole or killed from. They will feel their own negative energy and hurt themselves. They will rob themselves and shoot themselves until they get it. They will live in the other persons blockchain to see it from their side. They will mod themselves and silence themselves.  Anyone they told to shut up, they will tell themselves to shut up for they will be that person. It is the only way.

Do you know the way? I know the way.
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July 13, 2019, 10:33:57 AM
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I’m so sorry for your situation and for what your brother did. Well, it is not yet the end of the world, as long as there is tomorrow there is still hope. I believe that your brother didn’t do it for the purpose of hurting your family specially your sister and mom but probably he somehow wanted to end the sufferings of the whole family for good so he tried to put the family’s money into risk and he did lost it. He just made a wrong approach that made him lose the money which is intended for your sister’s treatment. Don’t give up folk, tomorrow maybe a better day for you and your family.
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July 13, 2019, 02:21:33 PM
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I really thank you for your understanding. Two days I often find a way to learn about Bitcoin, how my brother lost that precious amount. And now I know it was really lost, but never regained it.
We did not give up, but we could not do anything. We tried our best, worked without rest and thanks to the help of social banks to have money to treat my sister at the time of gold surgery.
Now I may have to accept it. Accept the loss of a person who does not love, is my younger brother. I will never forgive him for the rest of his life.

But I could not bear to see my sister's pain. That problem should have been resolved next week. In surgery and treatment there is always a chance of success, albeit small but still at 10-20 or 30%. However, for my sister now is 0%, a perfect number, because she has no chance to get it.
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July 13, 2019, 02:35:32 PM
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Today I will be allowed to spread my heart because perhaps there is almost no way to solve it. I just want to ask what Bitcoin is, what Dice is, and why it ruins my family like that.

I am the eldest brother of a poor family in Asia. My parents struggled and there was almost no time to rest, to earn a thousand dollars a year, which meant almost 2 dollars a day to sustain life. However, our life is still going on normally and I never stop happy when I think about my family. My younger brother and I, who are 2 years younger than me, at age 15 tried to work. However, the disaster happened to my family for 2 years. I don't understand why my brother could change and do such terrible things. Every night our family could not sleep. I don't understand when he learns something like bitcoin, or Dice, and since then he burned money for such things. I did not understand those things, and what it was but allowed me to despise them for breaking my family. He took everything away and that was contributing to killing his sister. While my little sister has suffered from a respiratory illness since she was a child, for many years our family has worked almost without rest so that she can treat her every month. You can understand almost the whole year we don't eat restaurants. Each family member for 1 year only bought 2 sets of work clothes, almost ten years without a holiday for the whole family. Everything saves to let my sister be healed. That's what we are motivated to never give up.

So you know, but the amount of savings in years now has disappeared. Our whole family could not eat and could not sleep. And the most heartbreaking thing that made us want to die was that my brother stole that money for Bitcoin Dice. He said that he wanted to invest, wanted to give his sister enough money to treat once until the end. Want a better life for the family. After that, it lost and eventually lost nothing. Despite my sister's regular treatment time, it was close.

My mother could not bear it, she thought she had lost her two children once. A sick daughter is deprived of her treatment, and a boy has turned into a devil. my mother is currently unable to walk and can only stay in bed. My father and I were like two small trees in the middle of a great storm. Today, some strangers came to the house to look for my brother to ask for money, and people took away many of the furniture to replace his debt, of course he escaped. My sister has long been optimistic and has fun in life. I know her pain and she always wants to give up, but she tries for her father, for her mother, for her brother. The opportunity to heal is difficult, but the opportunity for ill health is no longer available, and today the belief in everything to find is even harder. He left and left the darkest things for his family. Sometimes I wonder if he is still human? Should I kill him if I find him.

Today, I am no longer awake. And maybe I have no way to change everything. I just wish there was a miracle for my sister to have a chance tomorrow, she had suffered so many disadvantages since she was born. I wish I could exchange my life and health for her. I'm really exhausted. I was so tired that I could not live in this world.




i really felt you,please know that i will be praying for your sister and your mother's health, May the Lord heal them.
We are all going through something in life , but losing hope is not an option  still do your best to help your family.
I hope your brother could fight his addiction over gambling and be able to put his life back together. Just always pray for your brother too
I think he is tired too and just wanted to provide money too in the faster way he thought he could but the problem is he was not able to control his emotion and got addicted to it. The intention is good but the action is not.

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July 13, 2019, 02:52:27 PM
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I really thank you for your understanding. Two days I often find a way to learn about Bitcoin, how my brother lost that precious amount. And now I know it was really lost, but never regained it.
We did not give up, but we could not do anything. We tried our best, worked without rest and thanks to the help of social banks to have money to treat my sister at the time of gold surgery.
Now I may have to accept it. Accept the loss of a person who does not love, is my younger brother. I will never forgive him for the rest of his life.

But I could not bear to see my sister's pain. That problem should have been resolved next week. In surgery and treatment there is always a chance of success, albeit small but still at 10-20 or 30%. However, for my sister now is 0%, a perfect number, because she has no chance to get it.

I understand your feelings. Because of this I have actually experienced it. Please give me your BTC wallet address.
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July 13, 2019, 02:55:35 PM
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your title is very wrong, you can not blame bitcoin, you must blame your brother. bitcoin has no legs, no head and no arms... is just a code programmed by very smart people. bitcoin does not have any power to hurt people. Your brother was very reckless and mean. I'm sorry for your suffering
I think so, the responsibility lies with every user. everyone knows that investment will have risks, so if your brother loses it is not the fault of his investment but in every investor himself, thats why every investor must have a knowledge of the investment they will buy. Don't blame Bitcoin because every influence is on the responsibility of every investor
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July 13, 2019, 02:58:44 PM
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I really thank you for your understanding. Two days I often find a way to learn about Bitcoin, how my brother lost that precious amount. And now I know it was really lost, but never regained it.
We did not give up, but we could not do anything. We tried our best, worked without rest and thanks to the help of social banks to have money to treat my sister at the time of gold surgery.
Now I may have to accept it. Accept the loss of a person who does not love, is my younger brother. I will never forgive him for the rest of his life.

But I could not bear to see my sister's pain. That problem should have been resolved next week. In surgery and treatment there is always a chance of success, albeit small but still at 10-20 or 30%. However, for my sister now is 0%, a perfect number, because she has no chance to get it.

I understand your feelings. Because of this I have actually experienced it. Please give me your BTC wallet address.

Why? And for what? What do I do with Bitcoin. Over the years I didn't even have a girlfriend, because I didn't have the money to go on dates. I devoted all to this treatment. How do I spend money on that stupid thing? I even want to destroy it because of what's happening.
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July 13, 2019, 03:15:54 PM
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I really thank you for your understanding. Two days I often find a way to learn about Bitcoin, how my brother lost that precious amount. And now I know it was really lost, but never regained it.
We did not give up, but we could not do anything. We tried our best, worked without rest and thanks to the help of social banks to have money to treat my sister at the time of gold surgery.
Now I may have to accept it. Accept the loss of a person who does not love, is my younger brother. I will never forgive him for the rest of his life.

But I could not bear to see my sister's pain. That problem should have been resolved next week. In surgery and treatment there is always a chance of success, albeit small but still at 10-20 or 30%. However, for my sister now is 0%, a perfect number, because she has no chance to get it.

I understand your feelings. Because of this I have actually experienced it. Please give me your BTC wallet address.

Why? And for what? What do I do with Bitcoin. Over the years I didn't even have a girlfriend, because I didn't have the money to go on dates. I devoted all to this treatment. How do I spend money on that stupid thing? I even want to destroy it because of what's happening.

I have read a lot, but I really feel the pain through your every sentence. I am happy that you are angry, because I know for sure that is true.
Please calmly listen to me, as far as I know, everything your family prepares to lose, and it is for important treatment next week. I've experienced it before, money is not all but there are some extremely important moments that can save someone's life. So we need to have a community, there are times when we need help from others. I believe that many people like me, believe that just by passing this point, you will solve everything.
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July 13, 2019, 03:30:39 PM
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I have a son, maybe it's your age, so I really understand you. I am trying to help you, I know how you are through your story. I want to support you, this comes from my heart. It may not be much, but I still want to help you to overcome this difficulty. You must understand that cryptocurrency is also a great tool. Create an account to receive cryptocurrency, sell it to get money in your country. If you are lucky enough to receive help, you can receive money in 1 day.
1. Take 15 minutes to learn about Binance, and creating an account..
2. Access your account. Funds ---->> Deposit and find BTC, ETH, LTC which are common currencies.
3. Share your wallet address here.
I will help you as much as possible.
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I have a son, maybe it's your age, so I really understand you. I am trying to help you, I know how you are through your story. I want to support you, this comes from my heart. It may not be much, but I still want to help you to overcome this difficulty. You must understand that cryptocurrency is also a great tool. Create an account to receive cryptocurrency, sell it to get money in your country. If you are lucky enough to receive help, you can receive money in 1 day.
1. Take 15 minutes to learn about Binance, and creating an account..
2. Access your account. Funds ---->> Deposit and find BTC, ETH, LTC which are common currencies.
3. Share your wallet address here.
I will help you as much as possible.

Impossible. $ 10k, we have saved for years and borrowed 2 social banks this year. And next Tuesday, the treatment process has to start registration and payment.

God bless you for loving us. But maybe everything couldn't be changed anymore. Keep that money for your children. I really thank you.
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I have a son, maybe it's your age, so I really understand you. I am trying to help you, I know how you are through your story. I want to support you, this comes from my heart. It may not be much, but I still want to help you to overcome this difficulty. You must understand that cryptocurrency is also a great tool. Create an account to receive cryptocurrency, sell it to get money in your country. If you are lucky enough to receive help, you can receive money in 1 day.
1. Take 15 minutes to learn about Binance, and creating an account..
2. Access your account. Funds ---->> Deposit and find BTC, ETH, LTC which are common currencies.
3. Share your wallet address here.
I will help you as much as possible.

Impossible. $ 10k, we have saved for years and borrowed 2 social banks this year. And next Tuesday, the treatment process has to start registration and payment.

God bless you for loving us. But maybe everything couldn't be changed anymore. Keep that money for your children. I really thank you.

I know you have an aversion to cryptocurrency after what is happening but I want to ask you.
 - First, do you really love your sister? If it's true, then you have to try it even though it is your last chance.
  - Second, the person we want to help is your little sister, not anyone else. So please ignore all negative thoughts. Nobody here wants to trick you anything.
 - Third, when someone helps someone. They do not need repayment, which comes from the loving heart of people with people. Charitable things are always around, if not you, people like me will help others.
 - Stay awake, you have to do everything you can. I alone may not be able to help you, but many people may have a miracle. You are in a poor and low income place so you realize it's a huge amount. And to be honest, it's not a big amount for some people who do charity work in some places.
Let's quickly follow what I said above. Because of your sister.
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