Is the Risk worth strengthening our economy ?

[fiulpro]

Hey

Let me just start out by saying how our economy grows ? We make something in the industries , we market it , we also export it , it brings benefits for the countrie's economy.

Do you guys know about Mica ?

It is a mineral used everywhere , from the beauty industry to the toothpastes , shampoo's everything . India is a country with the richest mines of Mica , they inturn supply it to other countries.

But why am I wasting your time about all this information?

Well unfortunately the one's mining Mica is are not the industries or some big machines , it is actually kids. From the age of 4-5 they start doing labour and these mines are unregulated , being run by people hiding from the eyes of law , they actually bribe the officers and they run amok doing illegal things .

Unfortunately due to poverty people have no other choice , they don't force their kids to go but to even get a quarter a day means life and death situation for them.

What are the consequences ?
  * Kids start working from such an early age that they have no access to school
  * No education , No good living facilities , they often fall ill due to poor sanitary conditions
  *Sometimes the mines ,they collapse , small kids die and people just hide this to not create a uproar .
  * Some get respiratory diseases and suffer for lifetime.

In their age to play with toys , they work using a shovel much heavier than their weight .

Do we ever take A moment to see if the products we are using are Mica free ? You may never know where it came from . Maybe we all are just unfortunately the cause they have to go and work daily .
We aren't employing them , we are leaving them to die at the cost of cheap products available to us.

I want everyone here to take a moment and think about what we indirectly are doing to their childhood,is this actually worth making the economy sustainable ?
The poor people without education just keep revolving in the cycle of poverty and their kids also happen to have same fate.
This is so unfortunate for them but we can actually make their lives a little better .

* Urging the government to give better wages and opening more jobs for them
*Making sure to not use products containing Mica or at least making sure that they are cruelty free .
*Throwing these bribe taking officials in Jail
*Maybe we could help those poor families not by giving money but by telling them about how they can teach their kids for free in government schools and encouraging them.

Mica is very important economically , it is like the cement of the beauty industry but let's just protect the kids who suffers massively from their side effects.

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[fiulpro]

This is a good answer to those who claim that the cryptocurrency will soon be ubiquitous or even the only means of payment. It is good to live in a developed industrial center and in an apartment with all the conveniences to fantasize about how a cryptocurrency will quickly spread throughout the world, because everyone wants to use it. Such people are far from real life, which flows in countries of relatively low incomes of the population.

It's harsh but true.
Actually , maybe we just need to strengthen our economy first, make living conditions far more accessible and hygienic for the poor people who are endlessly revolving in the viscous cycle of death and poverty.
Then if we could provide free internet after offcourse providing proper meal for them and free mobile devices, then only we can dream of a future like that.
Only if they could study first , then maybe Bitcoins can even provide jobs for them but primarily more important is how we get there.

[timerland]

Do we ever take A moment to see if the products we are using are Mica free ? You may never know where it came from . Maybe we all are just unfortunately the cause they have to go and work daily .
We aren't employing them , we are leaving them to die at the cost of cheap products available to us.

I want everyone here to take a moment and think about what we indirectly are doing to their childhood,is this actually worth making the economy sustainable ?
The poor people without education just keep revolving in the cycle of poverty and their kids also happen to have same fate.
This is so unfortunate for them but we can actually make their lives a little better .

* Urging the government to give better wages and opening more jobs for them
*Making sure to not use products containing Mica or at least making sure that they are cruelty free .
*Throwing these bribe taking officials in Jail
*Maybe we could help those poor families not by giving money but by telling them about how they can teach their kids for free in government schools and encouraging them.

These are the obvious steps to take, on paper. However, when it comes to execution, given the lucrative profit margins for businesses that hire child workers it's simply unfeasible to expect that everyone will comply with regulations, which I'm fairly sure has already been implemented.

Plus, do you really think that just by "urging the government to give better wages" to children, that they're actually going to receive better wages? Govermnents can impose all sorts of minimum wage regulations, enterprise agreements, whatever; but do you really think that employers are going to care, or that a black market for child labour won't simply form?

It's a huge issue that requires structural reforms that I don't see can happen in a short period of time, and certainly not as easily as you may think.

[romero121]

Not only in India, such child slavery is prevailing around the globe. Recently saw similar incident with an African country where children never go to schools. They are always on the gold mines. With what they get they make their living, even if they get good sum of gold they don't know to find a trader and sell it. The intermediate person fix the price for the gold and he gets big selling it. Maybe someday God willing this needs to change and everyone should be fulfilled with their basic life needs.

[avikz]

I completely agree with you about child slavery, it must end at all cost. But when you talk specifically about MICA mining, I may not agree entirely!! Let's look at some facts,

1. India is the 8th highest producer of MICA. China, Russia and even South Korea is way ahead of India.
2. The contribution of MICA mining in GDP is very insignificant and doesn't come in the top 10 list of mined minerals.

Child slavery is a big problem in India's mining industry. But the issue of child slavery comes from sheer poverty and not from Mining a mineral. Our politicians should have addresses this issue long back but they didn't do anything other than filing their own pocket. I am confident that the situation will remain same for another 100 years looking at the current government.

Now talking about the health issues. Marble mining causes more health issues than MICA or any other industry! 90% of marble laborers face respiratory issues due to lack of safety equipments. Do we ban marble mining as well?

Banning a product is not a solution to a problem. Rather we need a strict law to ensure that the manufacturers of beauty products pay a certain percentage of their revenue to the welfare of their labors and to ensure proper facilities to them! The companies making billions from beauty products need to ensure minimum safety equipments at their mines. Even though nothing is going to change overnight, but at least set us up to the right path!

If banning MICA can bring the solution to the child slavery, we need to ban Coffee products and Diamonds first! Do some research and you will understand why I am saying this!!

[Kakmakr]

The Child Labour (Prohibition and Regulation) Act, 1986 prohibits the employment of children below the age of 14 years in India. Source :
https://www.ilo.org/newdelhi/areasofwork/child-labour/legal-framework/WCMS_486746/lang--en/index.htm

So, if these mines are employing 4 to 5 year old children to do these jobs, they are breaking the law and you should highlight this issue and embarrass the Indian government on social media platforms. Blame the Indian government for not taking action against these practices.

B.t.w, how is this a Bitcoin related topic?

[Indamuck]

Many consumers pretend to care but they end up just buying the cheapest product they can get.  Capitalism's only goal is profit and morals are left behind.  I wish the world was so fixated on money being everything in life and cared more about helping others and not exploiting. 

[webtricks]

Do you think any steps taken by government will actually create difference? Few bunch of government representatives won't change anything until everyone below who are actually executing these steps become clean. We can't expect government to deliver unless we on our own don't stop corruption.

* Urging the government to give better wages and opening more jobs for them

First thing child labor till the age of 14 is banned in India. So when government can't even restrict such mining fields to recruit children, do you think government can make sure everyone get paid the minimum wage!
 

*Making sure to not use products containing Mica or at least making sure that they are cruelty free .

How can we forgo a required material which carries such an importance in the economy?

*Throwing these bribe taking officials in Jail

And who will track whether officials are taking bribes? Some kind of inspectors appointed by government right? And what if these officials further bribe those inspectors? This is vicious circle, we can't expect government to improve something until we improve ourselves.

[target]

What your country needs is a president that has a political will that won't accept bribe from the cronies of those who manages these mines. Mining results to destroying your resources like the mountains, I think the government can absolutely take more money from these mining companies but can still pay regular adults to work for them. India is a rich country, when you look at its culture its way older than Christ. If only the government can follow what China did,  India can prosper way better with its strategic location.

[shield132]

This is the world we created and product of what they become. That's very sad fact but you have money because others don't have, somehow we both can't have money, one of us must be out of it. There is nothing we can do to change it, that's sad but truth, some people make huge money by their work while they are still poor, we need to give them education but governments prefer uneducated people because such people are easier to control and manage as you wish. Also have you thought about it? Almost everyone knows that condition but does anyone care? Sadly no and 1-2 people can't change the world.

[Harlot]

Unfortunately Child Labor is legal in several countries and its a move that a lot of governments has done for their family to earn a living. Not only mica is the only thing the children are harvesting from there are several others as well and one of the biggest industries taking advantage of it are the chocolate producers a lot of African countries goes up to 40% of their workforce being kids under 18 years old being hired by international giants, its their way of cutting the cost down. I know its unethical that you are robbing these kids future but nothing has been done to solve it.

[BitHodler]

Many consumers pretend to care but they end up just buying the cheapest product they can get. 

I can't blame them for that. I'm a consumer myself and look to buy that what's cheap and decent of quality. We all are out to shop at places where we can get the most bang for our buck.

I'm sure many do care about the environment and other things related, but not enough to justify buying goods that are more durable and generally more expensive. It's just the way people are.

I wish the world was so fixated on money being everything in life and cared more about helping others and not exploiting. 

You mean not so fixated on money, right? Our lives revolve around it, whether we like it or not, so we do prioritize money over most other things. Without it our life would suck. It's the center of everything.

I'm glad that there are wealthy individuals who do utilize a part of their wealth to finance cancer research, mental illness charities, etc. We all can do it, regardless of how small your donations are. I do it too and it feels good.

[RealMalatesta]

I have no idea what this has anything to do with crypto currency though. I mean the OP in his message didn't even tried to tie it with bitcoin or any other currency, he just talked about a sad fact that people are bad and they use little kids to make more profits and they take advantage of poor families in order to make even more profits instead of hiring regular adults to mine mica.

Now, that could be very bad and I understand that we should find a way to stop it but how do you propose we do it with crypto currency somehow? Should we create a mica free crypto somehow?

All cryptos are mica-free, they have nothing to do with it. Do you suggest we open a charity and donate to it so we can help families who send their kids to mica mines and make them take those kids back and pay their money ourselves so kids can go to school? I don't understand how this ties to crypto at all, totally irrelevant.

Sad and something should be done but irrelevant.

[Gibreil]

We cannot tell it unless it has been proven. If we talk about risk, it is an action taken inspite of uncertainty. In life sometimes we need to take a risk in order for us to grow. How can we test our strength if its just a word? We can't deny that crypto world is risky, well at first. If only people can adapt it, gradually it will go to what as we assume.

[whyrqa-1]

We cannot tell it unless it has been proven. If we talk about risk, it is an action taken inspite of uncertainty. In life sometimes we need to take a risk in order for us to grow. How can we test our strength if its just a word? We can't deny that crypto world is risky, well at first. If only people can adapt it, gradually it will go to what as we assume.

In most cases, I see that crypto-duty is positively affected by the financial condition of many people, but how it affects the economy suggest very difficult. In any case, there will be no practical evidence, then the conversation is practically not what.

[Oceat]

This is the problem of a corrupt country/government that need to have a quick resolution before it gets worse. Only your people will and can fix the problem of your own country, i don't if someone from your country turned a blind eye on this or they keep informing the people on what was happening with those kids at a very young age.

And for your question: it's not worth risking the lives of those innocent children just to work because they have no food to eat, it's their parents' job to give them food while they were growing. To strengthening your economy, you need a good leader that will stop all of those hidden and illegal businesses.

[TheCoinGrabber]

Unfortunately people got to eat and in many countries kids have to work to augment whatever small income their parents have. I remember one company just outright stopped using mica and switched to an artificial alternative (I believe it was LUSH cosmetics) but even that don't solve anything.

If everyone switched to synthetic then all these kids now don't have money and would be even hungrier. IMHO the solution is to regulate these mines to allow the kids to work in a safer environment as natural mica is slowly phased out and the communities reliant on it are switched to a different industry.

[1Referee]

To strengthening your economy, you need a good leader that will stop all of those hidden and illegal businesses.

It's easier said than done. In most cases a 'bad' leader makes place for one that's just as bad or even worse. At first they present themselves as the people's leader, but when they have what they got, the people suddenly don't mean anything anymore. Self enrichment, that's what they care about and it's so easy to participate in when the rest of the government is already used to these practices.

Also don't forget that the largest corporations within their countries are usually in it as well, and these corporations are where the money is at the end of the day.  

[Oceat]

To strengthening your economy, you need a good leader that will stop all of those hidden and illegal businesses.

It's easier said than done. In most cases a 'bad' leader makes place for one that's just as bad or even worse. At first they present themselves as the people's leader, but when they have what they got, the people suddenly don't mean anything anymore. Self enrichment, that's what they care about and it's so easy to participate in when the rest of the government is already used to these practices.

Also don't forget that the largest corporations within their countries are usually in it as well, and these corporations are where the money is at the end of the day.  

If no one will going to stand about it then their country will be in bloody chaos for the rest of their lives. Since they were in a shithole already, the people should have to choose which leader is ready to fight for them, a patriotic leader that is ready to face those bigger corporations just to shut them down if needed.

I know it's hard to find a leader like that but it is worth it if they ever find one and i've seen some country leader who does act like that just for the sake of the people on their country.

[Ranly123]

To strengthen an economy, it should start with the leaders and they should stop corruption and focus on improving the status of their countrymen. Now it's easy to say than done and all we can do is to hope that the leaders of our nation's will hear what is needed for their constitutes.