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July 25, 2019, 11:58:15 PM
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Even we are just holding after buying potential couns,  we can simply make money around of it. There is no need to put our self and money into risk if we don't know anything about in gambling or in trading.  But we can move our funds pretty easy and make big gains.
In the other way also,  we can participate in signature campaign and bounties.
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July 26, 2019, 12:06:15 AM
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Pay attention to the word HYIP put into OP's statement. Anybody knows HYIPs are ponzis and therefore equivalent to Gambling (you gamble that you are early enough to make sure you get paid). In this case, you hope you buy the coins at a price higher than everyone else or to make enough stakes to gain profit,,, that is still gambling.
From my understanding, a HYIP stands for High Yield Investment Plan. If you are earning a return of 1% a day, doesn't it constitute calling this a HYIP?
Yes you are right but in my experience, there are no HYIP projects that didn't last long. I have browsed some of the HYIP investment schemes already and did observed some of them and they didn't last long. Yes they are paying but it is just from the start and after months, they can't pay their investors so in the end HYIP CAN become a scam.

 
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July 26, 2019, 12:38:11 AM
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Pay attention to the word HYIP put into OP's statement. Anybody knows HYIPs are ponzis and therefore equivalent to Gambling (you gamble that you are early enough to make sure you get paid). In this case, you hope you buy the coins at a price higher than everyone else or to make enough stakes to gain profit,,, that is still gambling.
From my understanding, a HYIP stands for High Yield Investment Plan. If you are earning a return of 1% a day, doesn't it constitute calling this a HYIP?
Yes you are right but in my experience, there are no HYIP projects that didn't last long. I have browsed some of the HYIP investment schemes already and did observed some of them and they didn't last long. Yes they are paying but it is just from the start and after months, they can't pay their investors so in the end HYIP CAN become a scam.
I agree. Only time will tell how long this project will last.

But, with the way I structured it, I believe it will be around for a long time.
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July 26, 2019, 01:48:08 AM
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Even we are just holding after buying potential couns,  we can simply make money around of it. There is no need to put our self and money into risk if we don't know anything about in gambling or in trading.  But we can move our funds pretty easy and make big gains.
In the other way also,  we can participate in signature campaign and bounties.
crypto trading is not difficult. if you can't on a daily basis it might be possible to do the price parameters. very fast to profit from trading. but in gambling I'm not sure ordinary people who don't have the skills to gamble can benefit.


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July 27, 2019, 06:14:58 AM
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If you think about it, you don't need others to join to make money. Here's why:

- The less people who join, means the fewer number of UCIF are being staked. This means that the Dividend Pool, can keep paying longer before the pool starts to run low. When the Dividend Pool gets low, the token holders would just need to initiate a Buyback to refill the Dividend Pool.

- The Buyback Pool will create a sell floor 1 TRX for the token.

- After the ICO, the token holders can sell the dividends in the TRX Auction House for whatever price they like. Only the token holders would be in command of the price, not an exchange, so the price can't be manipulated.

- Who would want to buy the token? Whoever wants to earn a 1% per day ROI.

- When the token is bought, TRX gets locked up. What will happen to the price of TRX with 100,000,000 taken out of circulation?

so, in  conclusion:

DO NOT BUY THIS TOKEN!! YOU ARE BEING SCAMMED! THIS IS A PONZI! YOU WILL LOSE EVERYTHING! STAY AWAY!!!  Grin
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July 27, 2019, 12:01:10 PM
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Even we are just holding after buying potential couns,  we can simply make money around of it. There is no need to put our self and money into risk if we don't know anything about in gambling or in trading.  But we can move our funds pretty easy and make big gains.
In the other way also,  we can participate in signature campaign and bounties.
crypto trading is not difficult. if you can't on a daily basis it might be possible to do the price parameters. very fast to profit from trading. but in gambling I'm not sure ordinary people who don't have the skills to gamble can benefit.

That will work well for people who can learn to trade, but for people who don't want to learn about trading, they will think that crypto trading will be difficult to learn and they will not learn more. It is hard to earn money without trading or gambling and maybe the chance for us to make that money if from the investment option. We can invest in cryptocurrency, especially if we can invest in bitcoin and altcoin, but you need to think about how long you will cash out the investment.

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July 27, 2019, 02:21:13 PM
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There are so many ways to make money and investment is the right choice, but all that still needs a lot of consideration and analysis before determining where our money will be invested while leaving gambling is something we really need to stay away from because it is a less commendable act.

I agree with you, indeed investment is better than we use our coins to gamble. because basically gambling is not good for us personally so we have to choose positive versus negative things
Investing is really a good way to make money, but here, this topic owner wants to make money without going through too risky methods, no trading and no gambling, which means investment will not be suitable for him when it has many similarities. What we should recommend to him is probably the stable work outside of life or the work that uses efforts to make money, not to bring money to the game, that could be content creation, translation and working with projects, or simply, focusing on valuable airdrops

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July 27, 2019, 03:16:33 PM
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I agree with you, indeed investment is better than we use our coins to gamble. because basically gambling is not good for us personally so we have to choose positive versus negative things
it's better, but when you feel the benefits of a one-time gamble, you will do it again. making money from gambling does make a hobby from someone. but trading is indeed more profitable if you want to make more money.

trading will always better than gambling in all sides my friend
for me if we want to make money without trading or gambling, just buy some POS coins, such as PIVX, XSN or others, then keep it in your wallet,,
so, you will get rewards while you holding  Wink

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July 27, 2019, 04:08:50 PM
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trading will always better than gambling in all sides my friend
for me if we want to make money without trading or gambling, just buy some POS coins, such as PIVX, XSN or others, then keep it in your wallet,,
so, you will get rewards while you holding  Wink
it takes a long time to gather a lot of profits. besides, altcoin doesn't have a good guarantee for the long term. they can fall anytime they die.

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July 27, 2019, 08:53:33 PM
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trading will always better than gambling in all sides my friend
for me if we want to make money without trading or gambling, just buy some POS coins, such as PIVX, XSN or others, then keep it in your wallet,,
so, you will get rewards while you holding  Wink
it takes a long time to gather a lot of profits. besides, altcoin doesn't have a good guarantee for the long term. they can fall anytime they die.
What about withdrawing all gains/profits before it gets cleared by the market?

I was never successful to catch the big swings on the bull run due to my own mistake: Second order confirmation. Every breajout is the fake breakout, ever continuation is the trap, all candlesticks wicks are the stop hunting by the market makers for me. Market makers know us deeply and traders not only fail because of natural mistakes.

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July 28, 2019, 08:42:29 AM
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The website right now is incredibly crude and does not look like a professional business at all...

Having said that, Tron Network definitely needs a greater diversity of projects beyond gambling & betting games, so I sent you my TRX address just in case UCIF develops into something substantial...

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July 28, 2019, 12:12:47 PM
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of course you can join the world of bounty campaigns because that's where we can get prizes in the form of coins / tokens that can be exchanged into money, and the results are also quite large in the campaign bounty if in my opinion to get a good project is difficult
work on the bounty and get a paycheck after the bounty is finished and then we will still trade here to get bitcoin or ethereum before becoming money. there is still trading here.
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July 28, 2019, 02:57:26 PM
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I agree with you, indeed investment is better than we use our coins to gamble. because basically gambling is not good for us personally so we have to choose positive versus negative things
it's better, but when you feel the benefits of a one-time gamble, you will do it again. making money from gambling does make a hobby from someone. but trading is indeed more profitable if you want to make more money.
I think trading is also included in investment, right? gambling is indeed very addictive, but here we talk about ways to profit other than that both ways. I am a vlogger and blogger, apart from my hobbies, it turns out that advertising business is very profitable, you have to try it
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July 28, 2019, 08:32:30 PM
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trading will always better than gambling in all sides my friend
for me if we want to make money without trading or gambling, just buy some POS coins, such as PIVX, XSN or others, then keep it in your wallet,,
so, you will get rewards while you holding  Wink
it takes a long time to gather a lot of profits. besides, altcoin doesn't have a good guarantee for the long term. they can fall anytime they die.

Hold is not a complete risk, the holder must know how long he should hold altcoin. And how their goal for that investment is, should not hold a non-calculation way
Being a hodler would just only fit if you do see on a project that can potentially be an innovative one or can last up for long term and just like what bitcoin did.

Selling out or having a target on when it  should be done must really be set up rather than missing out possible profits when the market rose up.Hodling too much do have its cons so better to be wise on when to get out.

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July 28, 2019, 09:30:56 PM
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What ponzi runs on smart contracts AND blockchain? And do they show you where your money is going like this? https://tronscan.org/#/address/TUz5tM97V4hDVvqyZYZExzn5Kcr8Lada6J

There's always a first.

No one can shut it down or run away with the funds. That's the beauty of it being a dapp running on smart contracts.

If works now it will work forever because no one can change the code.

Did any knowledgeable person verify the code to see if you don't have an access or a way to modify the system?

The website right now is incredibly crude and does not look like a professional business at all...

Having said that, Tron Network definitely needs a greater diversity of projects beyond gambling & betting games, so I sent you my TRX address just in case UCIF develops into something substantial...

He won't send you anything or not enough for it to be worth it. If he sends you anything it will only be to get reputation on the forum and be able to run the scheme.
The website doesn't look professional because it isn't. It's a crude spider web meant for the dumbest and laziest of flies Wink
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July 28, 2019, 09:50:52 PM
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What ponzi runs on smart contracts AND blockchain? And do they show you where your money is going like this? https://tronscan.org/#/address/TUz5tM97V4hDVvqyZYZExzn5Kcr8Lada6J

There's always a first.

No one can shut it down or run away with the funds. That's the beauty of it being a dapp running on smart contracts.

If works now it will work forever because no one can change the code.

Did any knowledgeable person verify the code to see if you don't have an access or a way to modify the system?

The website right now is incredibly crude and does not look like a professional business at all...

Having said that, Tron Network definitely needs a greater diversity of projects beyond gambling & betting games, so I sent you my TRX address just in case UCIF develops into something substantial...

He won't send you anything or not enough for it to be worth it. If he sends you anything it will only be to get reputation on the forum and be able to run the scheme.
The website doesn't look professional because it isn't. It's a crude spider web meant for the dumbest and laziest of flies Wink
I beg to  differ

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Tron Auction House (TAH Coin) ICO
For the Horde!

Misson:  To provide a zero fee, decentralized, "World of Warcraft" (WoW) like  cryptocurrency auction house where TRC Token holders can exchange their tokens with other token holders. This eliminates keeping your coins on an exchange.

How it Works:  The token holders will navigate to the Tron Auction House Dapp website on the Chrome browser with the TronLink Chrome Extension installed and running. In the Dapp, the TRC Token holders can trade with other holders in a WoW style auction house for zero fees.

Purpose of ICO:  To raise funds in order to build the Auction House. After purchasing the TAH coins, the token holders can stake the tokens and start earning dividends and commissions.

TAH Coin Staking:  The coins can be staked in order to earn dividends and generate commissions. When the coins are staked, the TAH coins will be distributed as follows:

   1% to the TAH Dividend Pool
   1% to the Referral
   1% to Marketing
   1% to Development
   96% of the deposit will get credited to the investor. The investor will then begin  earning dividends at rate of 0.000000115741 TAH every second (1% every 24 hours.)

TAH Coin ICO Details:  The ICO sale will run for 90 days or until all the tokens are sold; whichever comes first. The TAH Coins will be a Tron TRC 20 token. There will be limit of 400,000,000 ever created. 100,000,000 coins will be sold for 1 TRX each. 200,000,000 will go to the TAH Dividend Pool and 100,00,000,000 TAH coins will be held in reserves.  All funds raised in TRX will go to the TAH Buyback Pool.

TAH Coin Buyback Pool:  In addition to trading TAH tokens in the auction house, the token holders can resell their coins to the TAH Buyback Pool for also 1 TRX each.  When a Buyback is initiated, the TRX will be distributed as follows:

   1% to the Buyback Pool
   1% to the Referral
   1% to Marketing
   1% to Development
The investor will receive 96% of the buyback in TRX. 100% of the TAH from the buyback will go back to the TAH Dividend Pool.

Addendum 1: The TAH credited balance can be withdrawn at anytime and the TAH dividends can be withdrawn after the accumulation of 1 TAH.

Giving the Power Back to the Token Hodlers!
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July 28, 2019, 10:39:40 PM
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Yea, I know that my dapp is "unproessional" looking, but it fucking works.
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"First, they fight you." ...
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Anyone want to add to this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Tronix/comments/ci2jvl/how_to_tell_if_your_project_is_a_ponzi
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