Livecoin participants should be tag?

[Hhampuz]

I'm sorry, who are you again? Did not realize I had to work around YOUR schedule. In time, I'll do it, today has just begun and quite frankly I have better things to do .

"Fair and not afraid" are interesting choices of words though. I assume you've already posted in this thread from your main account but why keep hiding behind the alt? Tell us how you really feel, from your real account, please.

Good excuse Hhampuz, keep dragging I have an alt account, just be fair as a DT and we will have no problem.

You are starting to sound like another mouth breather that keeps preachign about "be fair and transparent". Hmm, it couldn't be, could it?

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[No HATE]

I'm sorry, who are you again? Did not realize I had to work around YOUR schedule. In time, I'll do it, today has just begun and quite frankly I have better things to do .

"Fair and not afraid" are interesting choices of words though. I assume you've already posted in this thread from your main account but why keep hiding behind the alt? Tell us how you really feel, from your real account, please.

Good excuse Hhampuz, keep dragging I have an alt account, just be fair as a DT and we will have no problem.

You are starting to sound like another mouth breather that keeps preachign about "be fair and transparent". Hmm, it couldn't be, could it?

Time for me to relax and wait for another tomorrow, I get back to you soon.

EDIT1: Tagged all members that applied on the first page, will do 2nd page tomorrow.

After that, start tagging sportsbet and bitcasino too, and double tag for BitBustah for applying livecoin and wearing yobit signature. 

[guoyu78]

My opinion: I, dont, care.

It's a terrible idea. You can't demand to remove a scam accusation before resolving the issue. That's not how any of this works.

You people are role-model to me. I respect you both. Without your support, I know I will not be able to execute this idea. I am completely new to scam accusation/ reputation boards and honestly I am not aware of what are the practices being followed here. I give up my struggle.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

After that, start tagging sportsbet and bitcasino too, and double tag for BitBustah for applying livecoin and wearing yobit signature. 

1.) Post from your main account & stop being a coward
2.) Stop shit stirring & tarring us all with the same Livecoin brush
3.) I am so close to leaving your shitty account red trust & if I found out what your main account is I’ll create a flag against it.

[Vadi2323]

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2.) Stop shit stirring & tarring us all with the same Livecoin brush
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There is a useful thing from all of that. We see who is who and what worth the trust system in English board - campaign managers with trust from their slaves.

[yahoo62278]

After that, start tagging sportsbet and bitcasino too, and double tag for BitBustah for applying livecoin and wearing yobit signature. 

1.) Post from your main account & stop being a coward
2.) Stop shit stirring & tarring us all with the same Livecoin brush
3.) I am so close to leaving your shitty account red trust & if I found out what your main account is I’ll create a flag against it.

1. I agree with
2. Everyone has an opinion, can't stop that from being posted
3. This would be textbook trust abuse

[DarkStar_]

After that, start tagging sportsbet and bitcasino too, and double tag for BitBustah for applying livecoin and wearing yobit signature.  

I'm still waiting for a link to a valid unresolved Sportsbet scam accusation. I'm also still waiting for you to deposit your life savings into TradeSatoshi, since any scam exchange would have been taken down by authorities, and even though TradeSatoshi has clearly stolen people's money, they are not a scam because they are still online.

No point arguing further here for me if you're just going to ignore my arguments.

3.) I am so close to leaving your shitty account red trust & if I found out what your main account is I’ll create a flag against it.

This is why people post with alts.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

After that, start tagging sportsbet and bitcasino too, and double tag for BitBustah for applying livecoin and wearing yobit signature. 

Don't you realize first, that people are human and only have a limited amount of time to spend on any given endeavor, and second, that one has to choose one's battles? 

It isn't as if sportsbet, bitcasino, Yobit, and Livecoin are exactly the same.  Opinions on each one's scammy-ness may vary, and that will certainly affect which ones get tagged and by who.  Don't blame Hhampuz for tagging Livecoin's campaign participants, because I'm sure you knew it was going to happen from at least one DT member.  Obviously Hhampuz thinks they're a scam and has done what he thinks is right.  He has no obligation to express an opinion on Yobit, bitcasino, or sportsbet just because he took a stand against Livecoin.

I'm still waiting for a link to a valid unresolved Sportsbet scam accusation. I'm also still waiting for you to deposit your life savings into TradeSatoshi, since any scam exchange would have been taken down by authorities, and even though TradeSatoshi has clearly stolen people's money, they are not a scam because they are still online.

This kind of proves my point.  Everyone has a different view on what's a scam.  I happen to think Yobit isn't truly a scam exchange, but I know very well that many people disagree with me.  OP, things are not as black and white as you'd like them to be.

[AB de Royse777]

After that, start tagging sportsbet and bitcasino too

LOL excuse please. This is coming from butthurt, isn't it?

Check the gambling section especially the cricket threads. I am a sportsbet and bitcasio customer and with them from ages. I never had any problem with them. And I am fairly a high stake gambler. I never got scammed by them, they never keep me hostage for anything. By the way, I am not a paid shill for them too. I am speaking my mind here.

Anyway, do you really realize that you are not making much sense in this entire post. If a company keep hostage their customers, threat them with the money they are holding for them then how are you going to trust them? How the hell you are going to promote them? What is your benefit to let more people to be the same victim of hostage by advertising them in your (main account) signature?

Oh yeah! I got it!
0.02BTC a week :-D
Shame buddy. You are not speaking for Livecoin or seeking fairness. You are speaking for your personal gain. Stop it!

I'm still waiting for a link to a valid unresolved Sportsbet scam accusation. I'm also still waiting for you to deposit your life savings into TradeSatoshi, since any scam exchange would have been taken down by authorities, and even though TradeSatoshi has clearly stolen people's money, they are not a scam because they are still online.

Too bad, isn't it but here take a review (kind of) above about sportsbet :-) I didn't want to but I had to, to prove a point.

Obviously Hhampuz thinks they're a scam and has done what he thinks is right.

Don't forget that same Hhampuz was defending for them at the beginning and wanted to correct them but they never cared so Hhampuz did that was meant to be done and I am with him.

[Vadi2323]

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2.) Stop shit stirring & tarring us all with the same Livecoin brush
...

There is a useful thing from all of that. We see who is who and what worth the trust system in English board - campaign managers with trust from their slaves.

Typical positive trust in English board is "Campaign payment made on time, thank you I hope you'll apply me again, mister"

[LFC_Bitcoin]

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2.) Stop shit stirring & tarring us all with the same Livecoin brush
...

There is a useful thing from all of that. We see who is who and what worth the trust system in English board - campaign managers with trust from their slaves.

Tipical positive trust in English board is "Campaign payment made on time, thank you I hope you apply me again, mister"

Another butthurt Russian shit poster who can’t get enrolled in a signature campaign so starts to attack others who are & the campaigns too.

Why do guys refer to yourselves as ‘we’.

You’re very involved in this thread aren’t you?
Any chance the OP is your alt?


Lol at your post history, very busy moaning about Livecoin aren’t you - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=399366;sa=showPosts

Edit - You used to post for Yobit lol

[Vadi2323]

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2.) Stop shit stirring & tarring us all with the same Livecoin brush
...

There is a useful thing from all of that. We see who is who and what worth the trust system in English board - campaign managers with trust from their slaves.

Tipical positive trust in English board is "Campaign payment made on time, thank you I hope you apply me again, mister"

Another butthurt Russian shit poster who can’t get enrolled in a signature campaign so starts to attack others who are & the campaigns too.

Vicious mind does vicious interpretations. Everyone understands things to the extent of his(her) cynicism.

Why do guys refer to yourselves as ‘we’.

Who we are? We are the community.

Lol at your post history, very busy moaning about Livecoin aren’t you - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=399366;sa=showPosts

Edit - You used to post for Yobit lol

What else did I do, signed whore?

[No HATE]

After that, start tagging sportsbet and bitcasino too, and double tag for BitBustah for applying livecoin and wearing yobit signature. 

1.) Post from your main account & stop being a coward
2.) Stop shit stirring & tarring us all with the same Livecoin brush
3.) I am so close to leaving your shitty account red trust & if I found out what your main account is I’ll create a flag against it.

1. I agree with
2. Everyone has an opinion, can't stop that from being posted
3. This would be textbook trust abuse

1. and 3

3.) I am so close to leaving your shitty account red trust & if I found out what your main account is I’ll create a flag against it.

This is why people post with alts.

LFC_Bitcoin who trusted you? Making a flag for expressing my opinion, am I scamming the community?

2. I agree with.

I'm still waiting for a link to a valid unresolved Sportsbet scam accusation.

21.5 BTC TAKEN BY SPORTSBET.IO
Lutpin and Zepher tagged them. Zepher is dead but still added in the trust system, ohh boy,, you have a dead trust system. EXCLUDE HIM ALREADY.

bitcasino.io The brother or the sister company.

[DarkStar_]

I'm still waiting for a link to a valid unresolved Sportsbet scam accusation.

21.5 BTC TAKEN BY SPORTSBET.IO
Lutpin and Zepher tagged them. Zepher is dead but still added in the trust system, ohh boy,, you have a dead trust system. EXCLUDE HIM ALREADY.

bitcasino.io The brother or the sister company.

For like the fourth time, the accuser was trying to do a double spend attack, they reached a mutual agreed upon settlement and no financial damage was caused (15 BTC deposit was returned). If Zepher's ratings are still accurate, there's no reason to exclude them. Your alt doesn't have Zepher excluded and I bet your main account does either. If you feel that Zepher's ratings aren't accurate, exclude them from your own network and problem solved.

Show me how the user suffered no damages with Livecoin.

[No HATE]

I'm still waiting for a link to a valid unresolved Sportsbet scam accusation.

21.5 BTC TAKEN BY SPORTSBET.IO
Lutpin and Zepher tagged them. Zepher is dead but still added in the trust system, ohh boy,, you have a dead trust system. EXCLUDE HIM ALREADY.

bitcasino.io The brother or the sister company.

For like the fourth time, the accuser was trying to do a double spend attack, they reached a mutual agreed upon settlement and no financial damage was caused (15 BTC deposit was returned). If Zepher's ratings are still accurate, there's no reason to exclude them.

OP did not confirm, hence scam accusation is still open. You admitted that ratings are accurate, that's contradictory.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=832366 (check again, and re phrase your statement)

How about this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=207035? You think lauda and Stunna are liars?

[DarkStar_]

OP did not confirm, hence scam accusation is still open. You admitted that ratings are accurate, that's contradictory.

See:

thank you all, I have not forgotten my promise to reward community members who have assisted me.

I will provide a detailed update to the community on the situation tomorrow once I receive my 15 BTC.

He never did bother with an update but I'm assuming he received his funds as he didn't complain the next day. Zepher's ratings are primarily accurate from what I've seen but obviously I can't guarantee the accuracy of all of them.

How about this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=207035? You think lauda and Stunna are liars?

BitCasino has made poor decisions in the past but overall seem to be much better now, with a 8.05 rating on AskGamblers. I'm not going to start attacking people advertising Bitcasino for something that happened 2 years ago. I've never stated that my decision to ban those who apply to Livecoin was permanent either; forgiveness is a thing.

I do think you're a liar - you still haven't shown me that you're willing to stand behind your statements and deposit a significant amount to TradeSatoshi, a totally legitimate exchange that despite blocking and stealing customer funds, has not been seized by authorities and thus are 100% legitimate by your reasoning.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Won’t let me quote from that thread but this is post #2081 in the thread you linked written by Stunna-

‘Would you be willing to disclose how much you've paid askgamblers so far? How are they an 'independent third party'. Also, you didn't answer the majority of my question, in order to avoid these steady complaints why not just enforce a software limit or make terms much more clear and practical.

Via your Terms & Conditions you guys are *potentially* in the right legally, but from an ethics/business standpoint this type of confiscation is super dishonest and unfair. If this happened to me, I would feel scammed. All your websites are engaged in this type of behavior: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1863248.msg18527694#msg18527694’


Are you retarded or something?
Stunna is a competitor, he’s trying to bad mouth the competition. Lauda has literally just copied Stunna’s trust rating.
Stunna then goes on to basically admit. he’s talking shit.

Did you miss post #2080 in that thread written by Kakmakr? I’ll help you out and highlight it because again I can’t quote it -

Why is this a warning to others not to deposit here? The guy clearly tried to cheat the system, by creating multiple accounts and that is against the ToS of the site. You cannot expect people to back you, if you tried to cheat the system and you got caught. If you were caught doing this in Brick n Mortar casinos, you would be bleeding on the side of the pavement in some back alley, back in the day.

These days, you are just escorted out of the premises and banned from the casino. If you lucky, the Police will not get involved  in this. ^hmmmmm^

I’ll advise you to stop clutching at straws in this thread, you’re embarrassing yourself.

[DarkStar_]

Won’t let me quote from that thread but this is post #2081 in the thread you linked written by Stunna-

The BitCasino claim is valid to my knowledge and BitCasino handled it very poorly. Do you really believe that it's okay for BitCasino to steal 20 BTC from a customer because he bet too high? There was no software restriction and it was buried in the T&C. It's technically legal but incredibly shady and unethical. I'm guessing it's technically legal for LiveCoin to not allow withdraws of specific coins due to wallet issues.

I get that you're wearing a BitCasino signature and feel the need to defend them, but BitCasino has done wrong in the past. Stunna's claims were valid regardless of anything else.

[No HATE]

He never did bother with an update but I'm assuming he received his funds as he didn't complain the next day.

Assumption does not play fair in the scam accusation, it's supported by evidence, not assumption.
I have no problem with you, you don't abuse the trust system and you express your opinion fairly.

BitCasino has made poor decisions in the past but overall seem to be much better now, with a 8.05 rating on AskGamblers. I'm not going to start attacking people advertising Bitcasino for something that happened 2 years ago. I've never stated that my decision to ban those who apply to Livecoin was permanent either; forgiveness is a thing.

Then forgive livecoin, they are scammy but not a scam exchange.
Scam accusation of livecoin happened a year ago also, but was raise this year for whatever reason, and hhampuz loss his job and now hhampuz want's the participants to loss their job. He doesn't know forgiveness like you, you are a good manager.

I do think you're a liar - you still haven't shown me that you're willing to stand behind your statements and deposit a significant amount to TradeSatoshi, a totally legitimate exchange that despite blocking and stealing customer funds, has not been seized by authorities and thus are 100% legitimate by your reasoning.

I don't need to show proof due to privacy reason but I did try using TradeSatoshi with a small amount because it's a high risk trading site.
Satisfied? It's how you deal with a high risk trading site like Livecoin but you don't stop them from operating like tagging participants taking their life in the forum.

Another non sense from this DT depending his 0.018 weekly. LOL

[DarkStar_]

He never did bother with an update but I'm assuming he received his funds as he didn't complain the next day.

Assumption does not play fair in the scam accusation, it's supported by evidence, not assumption.

When the original poster doesn't respond again, you kinda have to use assumption when it fits. Sportsbet.io also provided a transaction hash that was not disputed. Let's assume that I promised you 15 BTC and that I would send it tomorrow. Tomorrow comes, and I don't pay you. What do you do?
a) Stay quiet and completely ignore the situation even though it means you lose 15 BTC
b) Complain publicly that you weren't paid
c)

Then forgive livecoin, they are scammy but not a scam exchange.
Scam accusation of livecoin happened a year ago also, but was raise this year for whatever reason, and hhampuz loss his job and no hhampuz want's the participants to loss their job. He doesn't know forgiveness like you, you are a good manager.

Forgiveness comes in time, not instantly. I may consider re-accepting those who applied for Livecoin it in the future. Also, forum flags expire in 3 years - not in a few weeks. If I take some BTC from you, will you forgive me in a few days?

I don't need to show proof due to privacy reason but I did try using TradeSatoshi with a small amount because it's a high risk trading site.
Satisfied? It's how you deal with a high risk trading site like Livecoin but you don't stop them from operating like tagging participants taking their life in the forum.

I haven't tagged anyone. I've stated that I can see the reasoning behind tagging them, and thus won't exclude anyone who does. I personally won't be tagging anyone.