Impossibility of a gambling system (Why methods don't work)

[Ucy]

There are some types of gambling that are fairly predictable.
I am not grounded in the things of gambling but I would categorize it in two based on my little understanding:  

1. Probability based gambling.
There is no known way, strategy or method of predicting probability based gambling. This is based on luck.

2.  Skill based gambling .
While the skill-based gamblings have important factors that make them fairly predictable. Ability to predict this type of gambling can improve with time.

[Twinkledoe]

If a specific method works or will work in gambling then no casino or website will be established. It purely depends on your luck to win or not. Even mathematicians can't or even tried to beat a gambling system.

Totally agree. If a mathematician or genius already created the solution to beat the house, I would say more gamblers are getting rich. Yet, the number is still the same. Very few has their luck in this system. Martingale might work but it doesn't work all the time. Luck is still the major player here.

[pixie85]

I stopped applying methods or anything that can give me a so-called winning edge because honestly, it will not come, you will just go and chase your losses, you will just keep adding more funds to your bet in the hope that you can regain what you have lost, but unfortunately that's not going to work, so instead of having fun you will end up dissatisfied.

Same here. We learn as we go. When I heard of martingale and other strategies I couldn't keep on playing like normal without trying them out. I saw people saying that they don't work but i was like that child that has to touch and get burned to learn. I did just that and now I know what not to do

Sometimes you regain the loss and sometimes you don't. There are stories of people who lost everything went to the bank and back to the casino and won it all back. It's never only black or white in gambling and in life.

[nakamura12]

Methods are not 100% won't work because no one else will be able to have a chance in beating the house edge of a gambling system even if your chance of winning or losing to that game is 50/50 but still it is not possible to do it. Gambling is really base on pure luck whether your a lucky winner or a loser.

[Maslate]

Methods are not 100% won't work because no one else will be able to have a chance in beating the house edge of a gambling system even if your chance of winning or losing to that game is 50/50 but still it is not possible to do it. Gambling is really base on pure luck whether your a lucky winner or a loser.

Yeah, it is big impossible to take down the house and win over them cause that is something how it made. For out of 10 persons, it probably 1 only win and the others will lose. How's is that fair? Of course not but that is gambling and even we complain about not winning all the time we gamble ain't no sense at all. We don't have luck but the other will.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

if we talk about gambling in the dice I agree with that. because dice is pure of luck. different from poker which is combined with the mental and mind of the players which are still balanced by theory and logic and all possibilities. but each game has its own advantages and disadvantages. I myself prefer to make gambling only for entertaining games not to be serious about doubling the main money.

[jake zyrus]

In this kind of games, "methods" don't usually work, and won't give you an assurance that you'll win. Since it's a pure luck, and I guess you can include your gut feelings or intuition. We don't have to overthink when it comes to playing like this, like computing and doing math. Just trust your gut feeling, i guess.

[Haunebu]

2.  Skill based gambling .
While the skill-based gamblings have important factors that make them fairly predictable. Ability to predict this type of gambling can improve with time.

A better way to define skill based games is basically the ability to rely on your skill heavily and luck is involved in a small way. Skill based games like Poker etc are great for experienced players only.

Newbies tend to get wiped out easily in these games. I personally prefer sports betting over luck based gambling since you get favorable results more often.

[o48o]

Simplified answer would be: you can't beat the house edge because it's based on maths, circumventing mathematical probabilities is just something humans like to think that they can do.

[swogerino]

I read a thread today that a man won the lottery 12 times and he did so by creating an algorithm and he managed to do it so the system can be beaten but it take a genius to do it.Almost all normal gamblers who know nothing of algorithms they just play their way and although many of them say they know the secret they don't.I agree that everyone should play the way they feel more comfortable playing.Gambling should not be stressful otherwise addiction is right behind the door.

[bernardos]

If there was a method that worked to beat the house edge there would be or there are already rules that would make the method illegal.
All these games are well thought out and developed by a team of intelligent individuals who have already considered all methods to beat the odds before the games were released.

[yvesp110]

You went through so much thinking and trouble when it all boils down to a simple fact: If there was a method to have a sure win (at least on average) it'd be seen as a flaw and immediately patched up by the operator.
I can't deny the possibility that some loopholes could appear in new games that were not tested before, but the games are usually too simple mathematically to have any overlooked flaw.

sIt is very important to understand the presence of probability in gambling. You just cannot have a strategy or formula to win all the games you participate in. It is nothing theoretical but up to a great extent practical and I think even the rick people in the industry would accept it to be challenging. Having good exposure to a particular game can give you an edge however.

[tsaroz]

There's no actual 50/50 chances. The chances are always below 50 as there's always a house edge involved.
Wining as an individual is not an impossible task as it totally depends on the luck. But our instinct won't make us just withdraw our wining and leave gambling. A person who has won would again come back to gamble until he lose all his winnings.

[Lanatsa]

It's a given fact and proven that no method works, you can win once but you cannot win every time, so why not just allocate funds relax and play the game, without forcing yourself to win in every bet, you'll not only going to enjoy it but you will have confidence in your ability to stop when it's time to stop.

That’s right, gambling is set it in a way where no methods or strategies that works and that can secure you a win. Gambling is more on luck and no matter how smart you are in creating a strategy, it won’t work, whether we like it or not, between the gambler and the owner, it’s the owner is the one getting rich while the gambler is becoming broke.

Just come to think literally if there were methods do exist then there would be no gambling sites on the first place yet these things will just bankrupt their business.

Its a total BS for people to think of this possibility yet it isn't possible on the first place but there were fools who do push up beyond on what they are trying to believe on.

[Aero Blue]

It's a given fact and proven that no method works, you can win once but you cannot win every time, so why not just allocate funds relax and play the game, without forcing yourself to win in every bet, you'll not only going to enjoy it but you will have confidence in your ability to stop when it's time to stop.

That’s right, gambling is set it in a way where no methods or strategies that works and that can secure you a win. Gambling is more on luck and no matter how smart you are in creating a strategy, it won’t work, whether we like it or not, between the gambler and the owner, it’s the owner is the one getting rich while the gambler is becoming broke.

Just come to think literally if there were methods do exist then there would be no gambling sites on the first place yet these things will just bankrupt their business.

Its a total BS for people to think of this possibility yet it isn't possible on the first place but there were fools who do push up beyond on what they are trying to believe on.

Yea this is the "logical" way to think about it. Same as the "too good to be true" mentality. If there was any "easy money", why would anyone work a job? I think it helps to look at it in a different way though, because sometimes people assume that they can "beat" the system, while others can't.

This is true in some scenarios for example, poker, where a lot of people just through away money, while others study and take calculated risks. Poker is a game that applies some skill though, unlike a truly random thing like dice.

[michellee]

Maybe there is a method which can work to defeat the system, but I don't think that every gambler can do that because that will require genius skills. We can only play gambling without having a big chance to win the games, but for sure, we only lose the money at all time. But I am sure that there is a person who can win the game with his luck and that happens only for a few people.

[Decimation]

Maybe there is a method which can work to defeat the system, but I don't think that every gambler can do that because that will require genius skills. We can only play gambling without having a big chance to win the games, but for sure, we only lose the money at all time. But I am sure that there is a person who can win the game with his luck and that happens only for a few people.

Well "genius" skills don't really matter either. There is no skill in a pure game of chance. So unless you are a guy who can exploit a website in order to figure out the hash algorithms, you aren't going to be able to do anything.

You are right though, some people are lucky, but luck only lasts for so long.

[South Park]

I have met a lot of people who like to gamble and that's cool but a majority of them say they "know the secret" they can "beat the system" it's wild for so many people to think they can edge out the house or there is a system that hasn't been figured out and blocked yet.

Honestly if you're looking for odd's martingale roulette could be it and just always bet on one color but make sure you have a hell of a large bankroll to rock it.

It is impossible to win with that strategy as well, casinos know of martingale and as such they put table limits, so at some point you are going to lose more money than what you can bet in a single spin of the roulette, also I do not understand why martingale is so attractive to people since you end up betting huge amounts of money just to recover your initial bet, I know that it gives the illusion that you cannot lose, but it is just that an illusion, and when you finally lose you lose all your capital.

[Naida_BR]

The reason why methods don't work is because you are out of luck. Most of the gambling is based on luck and one needs a very good luck to earn a fortune in gambling.
There are some strategies such as the methods but even that requires luck since many people lose their money despite applying the strategies.

So, if you don't get the methods work because of luck it is not about methods...
With your point you indicate that you don't need any method to win in gambling you just have to be lucky, which is a statement that I totally agree. No one can implement any specific strategy/method to win money from gambling.

[Betwrong]

I read a thread today that a man won the lottery 12 times and he did so by creating an algorithm and he managed to do it so the system can be beaten but it take a genius to do it.Almost all normal gamblers who know nothing of algorithms they just play their way and although many of them say they know the secret they don't.I agree that everyone should play the way they feel more comfortable playing.Gambling should not be stressful otherwise addiction is right behind the door.

Here we go again! So, is there a possibility that someone can invent a "winning method" or there is no such possibility? I think it is the latter because no genius can hack math. Read carefully the famous story how MIT students won $8 million in the Massachusetts Lottery, and you'll see that it happened because of the mistake of the organizers, not because of some miraculous(or genius) algorithm. The "mistake" was actually an intentional one, but that's another story. If you haven't read it, it's worth reading.

In short, even if someone had won 12 times in a lottery, he was just lucky and that's it. Don't buy his method, you will not increase your chances of winning by doing so. Don't buy any "winning methods" because they are no better than those you can invent by yourself.