Will Merits get wasted if the account is banned?

Recently, one of my friends' bitcoin talk account got banned without any reason. He had earned 3 merits for his posts. He felt very bad about that. I felt that if any account is banned, atleast some message should be displayed with proper reason for the Ban or a warning before a Ban. This will help them to know how they can improve on that.

Also, I have one doubt, all the merits he earned is it lost? Can he transfer to others?

Merited are wasted by merit sources every day because they do not find good posts to merit..

Your "friend" probably plagiarized content, which is the main reason for ban. If that is the case, it is over for him. If not, he can try to open a thread on meta and ask moderators to review his case.

However, the earned merits cannot be transferred in any case.

Quote from: Polina_21 on July 21, 2019, 04:14:15 PM

Can he transfer to others?

If we were able to transfer merits after a ban, where would your "friend" transfer his old merits? :thinking: Huh

To op.
Mind to share with us your friend account names? Perhaps we can check it together.

And what kind of banned notification your friend have? Is it permanent ban or perm-band?

Quote from: bitmover on July 21, 2019, 04:23:41 PM

Your "friend" probably plagiarized content, which is the main reason for ban. If that is the case, it is over for him. If not, he can try to open a thread on meta and ask moderators to review his case.

However, the earned merits cannot be transferred in any case.

Agree. Ask your friend (refers to OP) to create clarification thread in meta.

If I am not mistaken, your friend can still log in to his or her account even after being banned. Why not tell him or her to try to send 1 merit to you? In that way, we will also know who your friend is and find out the real reason for the ban.

Quote from: rosezionjohn on July 21, 2019, 04:40:41 PM

Banned accounts can't merit anymore, when merit system was introduced, it was possible to send merit from a banned account, but later, theymos fixed this bug. Otherwise, many more spambies could make higher rank accounts.

Quote from: arbiter5 on July 21, 2019, 04:24:58 PM

Quote from: Polina_21 on July 21, 2019, 04:14:15 PM

Can he transfer to others?

If we were able to transfer merits after a ban, where would your "friend" transfer his old merits? :thinking: Huh

Yea its better to lock down merits on banned accounts forever,once blocked its gone

Unfortunately its a yes, it will be another kind of spamming if banned accounts have the access to send out merits,just think about what will happen

I have not seen that banned accounts can send their sMerits out to others or not? Banned accounts can be used in view-mode only, and can not post anything, but to send sMerits, how about that? Just curious that banned accounts can be able to see Merit button or not, if they can see it, they can send their sMerits. If they can see Merit button, but can not send their sMerits, it is a bug of forum, and should be fixed by disbable merit button with banned accounts (permanently banned ones). For accounts that don't receive a single merit, they don't see Merit button. Lips sealed

Quote from: Polina_21 on July 21, 2019, 04:14:15 PM

Awww my kiddo, 3 merits Huh

Ummaaahh!!!!
The oldest and most reasonable cause for getting banhammered these days is plagiarism. Tell me one thing, even if he gets to:

1. Transfer his merits to someone else

Then he would probably misuse them by making a new account and sending all to themselves or to you, maybe?

2. Find and merit good posts

Oh no! But I am ~~banged~~ banned, why would I take the pain of doing that? Get lost you all, I am done (that banned guy's responses).

Surely it was wasted and by the way, moderators will not ban users without any reason, if it's permabanned that means he did plagiarized a content. AFAIK the reason for the ban is indicated on the account of the user and there is an email there to appeal for the ban.

Don't make some doubt over it, if the ban is deserved for him that's it, he can appeal though but he/she present that himself/herself is an asset to the forum. Ban members can't transfer it, why ask about it? Do you need those sMerits? Earn those in your own way.

Quote from: bitmover on July 21, 2019, 04:23:41 PM

However, the earned merits cannot be transferred in any case.

Good to know if this is true, because they might just sell their merits since their accounts are not already usable in the forum.

Quote from: Polina_21 on July 21, 2019, 04:14:15 PM

Recently, one of my friends' bitcoin talk account got banned without any reason. He had earned 3 merits for his posts. He felt very bad about that.

So he didn't feel bad about being banned, only about the 3 Merits? Let me guess: he can easily create another account, but getting more Merit is difficult? Just to be clear: creating another account to post anywhere else than in a ban-appeal thread is not allowed after a ban.

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Also, I have one doubt, all the merits he earned is it lost?

Those Merits aren't lost, they're still used to highlight good posts.

Example:

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Merit received by ~~vphasitha01~~ Banned! from January 24, 2018 until July 19, 2019 (source)

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Quote from: Polina_21 on July 21, 2019, 04:14:15 PM

Recently, one of my friends' bitcoin talk account got banned without any reason.

99% of banned accounts are banned without a reason according to the banned users.

Quote from: Polina_21 on July 21, 2019, 04:14:15 PM

I felt that if any account is banned, atleast some message should be displayed with proper reason for the Ban or a warning before a Ban. This will help them to know how they can improve on that.

If it is a permanent ban he surely received a message saying that he was banned for plagiarism or spamming (those are the most common reasons) and an email address where he can appeal the ban.

I knew about the vphasitha01 because that guy and me was in the same race to Full Member rank. That guy actually hit Full Member rank before me, he/she is actually a constructive user, so I am curious why he/she banned permanenty. He/she even did not care to create ban appeal. I don't know that he/she knew about new procedure to unban constructive users whom have good net-effects or not. If yes, he/she might come back and create ban appeal.

He got a message saying that he is permanently banned probably due to spam or plagiarism. Attaching the image of the message he received -

And how and where he can create appeal on "Meta"? He did appeal on the email provided on the image but he did not get any response from them.

He tried giving merits to others and he is not able to give them as well, the merits are wasted.

Quote from: tranthidung on July 22, 2019, 04:31:11 PM

Yes, he can see the Merit button but he is not able to send sMerits to any posts. That is the problem!

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He felt bad that his account is banned even after not spamming or doing anything wrong. And where is the ban-appeal thread? Where he can find that?

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Also, I have one doubt, all the merits he earned is it lost?

Those Merits aren't lost, they're still used to highlight good posts.

But he tried to send his merits to some good posts but he was not allowed to send it.

Quote from: Polina_21 on July 24, 2019, 02:49:27 AM

And how and where he can create appeal on "Meta"?

Creating only one account, and use only that account to create a ban appeal thread in Meta board.
Remember to give enough basic details of banned account:
- Account name
- Profile link
- Ban message, that includes type of bans (temporary or permanently); and potential reasons of bans (spamming, plagiarism, etc.).
- Most constructive posts and / or threads that user made before the ban. It will gives forum moderators proofs to assess that user's net effects. Staffs will do their own research, but it is also helpful if that user can show off his or her most constructive things. If he or she even can not find a single constructive post or thread, it means that user does not have good net effect.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg51830829#msg51830829
That is the report of @Heisenberg_Hunter to the newbie member Jace Lee as you input it on the image below of who the member is.

Quote from: Polina_21 on July 24, 2019, 03:18:05 AM

He felt bad that his account is banned even after not spamming or doing anything wrong. And where is the ban-appeal thread? Where he can find that?

@Polina_21 your friend really did plagiarism, he can appeal though by creating a new account in the forum but posting is solely to the appeal and nothing else.