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Bitfinex (tether) "lost" $850m
Tether lent (embezzled) almost a billion dollars to bail out bitfinex (tether)
Tether tells no one.
About half a year later, tether updates their TOS so that USDT is backed by "assets" The total "value" of the assets as measured in USD is supposed to be equal to the supply in USDT.
Tether is publicly called out by the NYAG for fraud and misuse of funds.
Tether admits that each USDT is only (at best) 74% backed.
We then discover that tether lends USDT and counts the loan as it's own backing. Tether refuses to ignore requests to verify holdings, only admitting they are insolvent when called out.
That's $2 fucking billion dollars in just 4 months. Just for the past 7days alone, they've printed $125,000,000. How is that possible? Just how?
Tether can print money with 0 oversight. So they do.
But their time will come, next court date with the NYAG is in 8 days.
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July 22, 2019, 07:32:30 PM Last edit: July 22, 2019, 08:08:01 PM by Facundito |
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They keep on doing nasty things because they are not regulated.
Now, if you were part of the powerful elite that controls the flow of money, would you remove the one single obstacle that currently caps bitcoin ecosystem's credibility? You wouldn't, right?
That's my suspicion for the moment – tether misbehavior serves elite's purposes.
Now the next question would be, what would happen after tether & bitfinex get shut down?
Would loss aversion drive insane new lows? or Would the market absorb the crash knowing that BTC is no longer capped?
Maybe is somewhere in between. I wonder who can really know that.
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July 22, 2019, 07:46:57 PM |
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The simplest justification for this from them would be that more and more people are investong and holding usdt that is why the supply of usdt is on the rise and this statement could be true because many people do stay in usdt and wait for perfect opportunity to enter market.
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July 22, 2019, 07:47:39 PM |
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Bitfinex (tether) "lost" $850m
Tether lent (embezzled) almost a billion dollars to bail out bitfinex (tether)
Tether tells no one.
About half a year later, tether updates their TOS so that USDT is backed by "assets" The total "value" of the assets as measured in USD is supposed to be equal to the supply in USDT.
Tether is publicly called out by the NYAG for fraud and misuse of funds.
Tether admits that each USDT is only (at best) 74% backed.
We then discover that tether lends USDT and counts the loan as it's own backing. Tether refuses to ignore requests to verify holdings, only admitting they are insolvent when called out.
That's $2 fucking billion dollars in just 4 months. Just for the past 7days alone, they've printed $125,000,000. How is that possible? Just how?
Tether can print money with 0 oversight. So they do.
But their time will come, next court date with the NYAG is in 8 days.
We can make thousands of comments and criticisms about Tether. But it continues to take full advantage of being the first. Today, there are more than one stablecoin on each exchange. And almost all of them have Tether!
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July 22, 2019, 07:56:55 PM |
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I believe many of the traders in centralised exchanges, they used to make final shot conversation to USDT and keep their funds safer in one level. So this USDT is one of the option for the traders to keep their funds in safest place.
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July 22, 2019, 09:04:05 PM |
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Does any of you choose to believe that Tether's credibility will end some day?
Tether has as much backing as Venezuelan Peso
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July 23, 2019, 04:26:37 AM |
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Does any of you choose to believe that Tether's credibility will end some day?
Tether has as much backing as Venezuelan Peso
I do believe about that. The credibility of tether already ended when it was avoiding the audit from the reliable party. It's not clear about where tether gets the money that makes the tether team able to print more and more money anytime. This just like a scammer that produce its own money.
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July 23, 2019, 04:39:06 AM |
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Bitfinex (tether) "lost" $850m
Tether lent (embezzled) almost a billion dollars to bail out bitfinex (tether)
Tether tells no one.
About half a year later, tether updates their TOS so that USDT is backed by "assets" The total "value" of the assets as measured in USD is supposed to be equal to the supply in USDT.
Tether is publicly called out by the NYAG for fraud and misuse of funds.
Tether admits that each USDT is only (at best) 74% backed.
We then discover that tether lends USDT and counts the loan as it's own backing. Tether refuses to ignore requests to verify holdings, only admitting they are insolvent when called out.
That's $2 fucking billion dollars in just 4 months. Just for the past 7days alone, they've printed $125,000,000. How is that possible? Just how?
Tether can print money with 0 oversight. So they do.
But their time will come, next court date with the NYAG is in 8 days.
Its called greed , nothing else. Tether runs by elite greedy people who like to make fool of public and newbies. They keep on minting new money out of thin air and saying that they don't want to do audit report by credible company . All their lies still does not let public abandoning them altogether. People will understand one day when tether will close when the regulated body will pounce on them . But again by then they might have minted and printed 10s of billions of dollars and have it stashed in bitcoins and many other privacy tokens. Tether people are the most cunning and smartest brain behind it. They will keep on printing those money until government do crackdown on them
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July 23, 2019, 04:50:39 AM |
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Tether can print money with 0 oversight. So they do.
Yup. And here's where all the problems with stable coins start. This is why all the hatred against stablecoins and so on. There's an old saying about high prices, the approx translation would be "It's not the one asking (the high price) the stupid one, it's the one who's paying that." We keep blaming Tether/Bitfinex, but they actually play with everybody's greed. Interesting that nobody speaks up asking all exchanges ban Tether, for example...
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July 23, 2019, 07:12:28 AM |
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it is partly because there is no law preventing them from printing any amount they like so they keep on doing it. but there is also another reason that people overlook and that is "demand". if you look at the altcoin market, it has been growing and more and more people have been demanding fiat markets so that they could trade their shitcoins with something that has a stable value. but since altcoin exchanges want to escape regulations and don't want to add fiat they have been adding stable coins. tether being the popular one, attracts people.
now considering the fact that when bitcoin falls, altcoins get dumped hard, they always want an stable coin to go to. and that increases the demand for tether and they have to print more of it to be able to answer to that demand.
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Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip. Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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July 23, 2019, 07:24:08 AM |
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Bitfnex needs USD for payments, but they cannot print USD. Printing a lot of USDT to buy BTC and liquidating them to USD help them do that. Only when they are investigated for deposit, will they sell the BTC for USD to prove it. Usually anytime bfn is requested to prove usdt deposit that massive amount of BTC is sold.
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July 23, 2019, 08:52:01 AM |
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That's $2 fucking billion dollars in just 4 months. Just for the past 7days alone, they've printed $125,000,000. How is that possible? Just how?
That is why we never have to invest on the centralized stable coins because they can print as much as they want but we can't do anything other than trusting they are printing with their limits.Hopefully their bubble will get bust soon. We should always use the Decentralised stable coins because we know what is happening exactly, even we have seen many negative feedbacks about the tether, everybody is very concerned about their supply which is a very bad idea to hold our assets in the tether. Is there any decentralized crypto? As far I know there is nothing exist like that. But keep suing the decentralized crypto no matter of the value is stable or not for your benefits.
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July 23, 2019, 09:00:59 AM |
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It is so unfortunate that bitfinex can be this as they keep creating more tether from no where and keep getting free funds and that has been the reason many has been worried over their token which might cause issue even the US is very much concern about it but I think soon there will be a solution in that regard.
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July 23, 2019, 09:02:46 AM |
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Why wouldn't it keep growing? Tether can create as many USD as it wants, even in countries with fully controlled economies subject to certain rules for currency expansion. Is there an easier way to make money? Moreover, there is no paper and printing costs like USD.
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July 23, 2019, 09:04:51 AM |
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I think creating more tethers good for cryptocurrencies. They use it only for buying crypto, this increase price of last
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July 23, 2019, 09:58:32 AM |
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That's $2 fucking billion dollars in just 4 months. Just for the past 7days alone, they've printed $125,000,000. How is that possible? Just how?
That is why we never have to invest on the centralized stable coins because they can print as much as they want but we can't do anything other than trusting they are printing with their limits.Hopefully their bubble will get bust soon. We should always use the Decentralised stable coins because we know what is happening exactly, even we have seen many negative feedbacks about the tether, everybody is very concerned about their supply which is a very bad idea to hold our assets in the tether. Is there any decentralized crypto? As far I know there is nothing exist like that. But keep suing the decentralized crypto no matter of the value is stable or not for your benefits. There is and that called bitcoin, but the fun fact about crypto when the network that called blockchain becomes truly decentralized but at the same time crypto comes in the exchange site as a party that destroys the decentralized that already built by the blockchain to get its value.
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July 23, 2019, 11:03:27 AM |
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Bitfnex needs USD for payments, but they cannot print USD. Printing a lot of USDT to buy BTC and liquidating them to USD help them do that. Only when they are investigated for deposit, will they sell the BTC for USD to prove it.
have you checked the supply of Tether ever before? i don't think so. i suggest you take a look at it. then check out bitcoin price. if they were really buying bitcoin with USDT then selling it for USD then bitcoin price should have fallen to $100 and less due to the sheer amount of sell pressure
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July 23, 2019, 03:09:31 PM |
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This is actually worrisome as I use tether for hedging on exchange during trading, I hope this does not mean that one day I may wake up to find out that 100usdt is not woth up to $50usd.
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July 23, 2019, 03:40:07 PM |
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Does nobody know about DAI stablecoin?
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July 24, 2019, 09:35:25 AM |
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Bitfnex needs USD for payments, but they cannot print USD. Printing a lot of USDT to buy BTC and liquidating them to USD help them do that. Only when they are investigated for deposit, will they sell the BTC for USD to prove it.
have you checked the supply of Tether ever before? i don't think so. i suggest you take a look at it. then check out bitcoin price. if they were really buying bitcoin with USDT then selling it for USD then bitcoin price should have fallen to $100 and less due to the sheer amount of sell pressure Of course it does not sell off in 1 time. 10m usdt is printed to buy btc for 6k, then sell btc for 8k. After returning 10m usdt, the excessed amount of usd is the received interest.
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