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July 22, 2019, 09:29:32 PM
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Hey everyone! I have just started a new telegram channel that sends signals for only BTCUSD longs and shorts (I will be adding some alts soon). I have been using this trading strategy for awhile now and am happy to share it with you guys! Here are the results from the most recent trades -

READ THE RESULTS LIKE THIS: Date - Type - MAX Gain, Stop Loss
If the stop loss has a '+' in front, that means that the stop loss was positive (you would be guaranteed profit). The max gain is what you would get if you sold at the perfect time, which obviously you wouldn't, so don't expect to get that high of a gain, but it does show you up to what point you could have taken. I only send a signal for the entry point, I do not give targets or sell signals (except stop loss). Stop loss happens whenever it goes from long to short or vice versa. These signals are always in either a long or short position. I highly recommend that you do your own research for each signal and not just blindly follow them, you shouldn't take every signal.

June 16th - Long - 5.05%, +2.20%
June 17th - Short - 0.74%, -1.24%
June 17th - Long - 2.03%, -0.45%
June 17th - Short - 3.50%, +1.43%
June 18th - Long - 1.06%, -0.55%
June 19th - Short - 0.13%, -0.65%
June 19th - Long - 2.71%, +1.15%
June 20th - Short - 0.10%, -1.21%
June 20th - Long - 20.13%, +11.89%
June 22nd - Short - 1.17%, -3.52%
June 22nd - Long - 0.64%, -2.41%
June 23rd - Short - 0.60%, -1.75%
June 23rd - Long - 5.10%, -0.09%
June 23rd - Short - 1.61%, -1.83%
June 24th - Long - 5.12%, +1.72%
June 25th - Short - 0.71%, -1.96%
June 25th - Long - 22.50%, +10.70%
June 26th - Short - 9.33%, -3.41%
June 26th - Long - 0.33%, -8.67%
June 27th - Short - 12.79%, +5.05%
June 28th - Long - 10.82%, +3.51%
June 28th - Short - 2.58%, -2.83%
June 29th - Long - 2.71%, -0.31%
June 29th - Short - 10.89%, +6.77%
July 1st - Long - 0.33%, -3.09%
July 1st - Short - 7.31%, +1.37%
July 1st - Long - 0.73%, -3.92%
July 1st - Short - 5.15%, -0.46%
July 2nd - Long - 13.23%, +8.24%
July 3rd - Short - 0.23%, -3.47%
July 3rd - Long - 5.29%, +0.88%
July 4th - Short - 0.33%, -2.61%
July 4th - Long - 0.29%, -2.47%
July 4th - Short - 7.03%, +2.43%
July 5th - Long - 1.40%, -1.26%
July 5th - Short - 1.04%, -1.06%
July 5th - Long - 0.22%, -1.76%
July 5th - Short - 2.40%, -1.14%
July 5th - Long - 4.75%, +1.96%
July 6th - Short - 3.18%, +0.67%
July 7th - Long - 1.17%, -1.39%
July 7th - Short - 0.27%, -2.16%
July 7th - Long - 1.80%, -0.62%
July 7th - Short - 0.12%, -1.44%
July 7th - Long - 0.13%, -0.59%
July 8th - Short - 0.35%, -0.68%
July 8th - Long - 11.44%, +6.73%
July 9th - Short - 1.09%, -2.65%
July 9th - Long - 5.05%, +1.72%
July 10th - Short - 12.63%, +7.66%
July 11th - Long - 0.35%, -3.74%
July 11th - Short - 3.77%, -0.69%
July 11th - Long - 4.48%, +1.43%
July 12th - Short - 6.71%, +1.54%
July 13th - Long - 0.60%, -1.27%
July 13th - Short - 12.61%, +8.03%
July 15th - Long - 6.83%, +2.77%
July 16th - Short - 14.84%, +9.47%
July 17th - Long - 3.65%, +0.90%
July 18th - Short - 4.51%, -2.08%
July 18th - Long - 8.74%, +3.38%
July 19th - Short - 1.49%, -1.98%
July 19th - Long - 6.11%, +2.29%
July 20th - Short - 3.61%, +1.25%
July 21st - Long - 1.14%, -0.58%
July 22nd - Short - 4.24%, -

HOW TO USE THESE SIGNALS
The signals are all based on the 5m time period. If you receive a signal for a LONG, look at the 5m chart and place your initial stop loss at the LOWEST point of the previous SHORT signal. If you receive a signal for a SHORT, put your initial stop loss at the HIGHEST point of the previous LONG signal. After about 15 minutes (3 candles), you can lower your stop loss about 10-12 dollars, then every candle after that lower it about 1-1.5 dollars. Of course you don't have to do it every candles, you can wait like 10 candles and then lower it like $20 or something. Whenever I'm available I will also periodically update you guys with the exact stop loss price to put in. These signals are based on the Coinbase chart on TradingView, but you can use whichever exchange you want, as most have the BTCUSD price very similar. I recommend using one where you can long and short. I personally am using Bybit, but I also think Bitseven is a good one for high leverage. There is also Kraken and now Binance allows margin trading as well. I think Bitfinex does as well. I would avoid Bitmex, I have heard its a terrible exchange (if you want to use 100x leverage, I recommend Bybit or Bitseven). I used to use 100x leverage with 10% of my account, but now use 25x leverage with 40% of my account (which lets me trade with the same amount anyway) so that my liquidation price is lower than my stop loss. If you want to use 100x leverage, make sure you have cross/auto margin replenishment enabled as the trades can hit your liquidation price before profit sometimes. Of course you don't even have to use margin for these signals (except for shorting, you can just use like 2x), and still be very profitable. I don't recommend selling in the negative unless it hits the stop loss (i.e. flips from long to short or vice versa).

For take profit I recommend the following -
0.2% to 0.25% for conservative, 0.5% for normal risk, and 1%+ for high risk


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1 week - $50
1 month - $100
3 months - $250
6 months - $450
12 months - $800

I accept payment either in bitcoin OR PayPal (PayPal has seller protection, so you don't have to worry about scam, which of course I'm not).

If you are interested or have any questions message me on Telegram, my username is @jobo44. Or you can message me on here, but I will probably reply faster on Telegram. You can also join my public chat group to discuss bitcoin and the signals here - t.me/ultimatebtccalls

Thanks everyone! Smiley
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July 22, 2019, 11:16:31 PM
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for promotions usually new members get free offers.
it's hard to get trust about trading signals, you should give testimonials.The altcoin trade must be considered.

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July 22, 2019, 11:26:48 PM
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for promotions usually new members get free offers.
it's hard to get trust about trading signals, you should give testimonials.The altcoin trade must be considered.
Yeah I understand that, I literally just started it so I don't have any testimonials. I guess I will have it so that new members get a free 7 day trial, that should help. I will probably add some of the bigger alts soon, like ETH, XRP, and maybe LTC.

Added free 1 week trial for new members!
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July 23, 2019, 11:35:38 PM
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for promotions usually new members get free offers.
it's hard to get trust about trading signals, you should give testimonials.The altcoin trade must be considered.
Yeah I understand that, I literally just started it so I don't have any testimonials. I guess I will have it so that new members get a free 7 day trial, that should help. I will probably add some of the bigger alts soon, like ETH, XRP, and maybe LTC.

Added free 1 week trial for new members!
ok let's see how much profit you can give.
I will help spread this information, hope my friends are interested.

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July 24, 2019, 02:41:14 AM
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Thanks!

The short trade from the 22nd ended with the following results -
Max profit 6.08%, Stop loss +4.10%

Then I had two trades today -
Long - Max profit 1.31%, Stop loss 1.21%
Short - Max profit 3.62%, Stop loss N/A (still running)

Here is a link to a screenshot of my trades for proof -
https://imgur.com/a/oK7jz2a

I was very conservative with the long since it has been in a big downtrend lately, and could have ended up taking much more on the short, but I still increased my overall account by 9.8% today, so I can't complain!

Remember there is a 7 day free trial so you have nothing to lose!

My Telegram username is jobo44 or you can join my public chat room t.me/ultimatebtccalls
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July 25, 2019, 01:03:28 AM
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Yesterday's Short finished like this -
Max gain 3.83%, Stop loss +1.21%

Trade results from today so far -
Long - Max gain 0.91%, Stop loss 2.11%
Short - Max gain 1.22%, Stop loss 0.64%
Long - Max gain 4.93% (so far), Stop loss N/A (still running).

Some great trades lately! Remember I offer a 7 day free trial, just ask to join! My Telegram username is jobo44 and you can join my public chat group t.me/ultimatebtccalls

I plan on adding ETH and XRP signals tomorrow (they will be included with the BTC signals). Any questions feel free to ask! Smiley
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July 25, 2019, 11:52:21 PM
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Yesterday's long finished -
Max gain 5.15%, Stop loss +2.89%

Today only one trade so far -
Short Max gain 1.56% (so far), Stop loss N/A (still running)

My Telegram username is jobo44 and you can join my public chat group t.me/ultimatebtccalls

I also added ETH and XRP calls today! Smiley
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July 26, 2019, 02:46:55 AM
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I can't really tell what your entries, targets, and stop losses are. You should put your signals in a format where we can tell from the timestamps if these calls have been profitable.

There are some unattractive risk/rewards from the look of it, but I can't really tell what you're doing exactly. When you say "Stop loss N/A (still running)" does that mean you don't have a stop loss? You just decide to close at some point, based on your gut or something?

A good signal service will list entry/target/SL for every call. If you want to charge a paid subscription, you should provide free signals for a while (verifiable by timestamp) to show it's profitable.

Good luck!

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July 26, 2019, 02:56:31 AM
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I can't really tell what your entries, targets, and stop losses are. You should put your signals in a format where we can tell from the timestamps if these calls have been profitable.


Exactly, this is what I'm looking for, so it looks like some arbitrary numbers in the OP's post. And for those newbies out there who wanted to try it, they will be at lost specially then are not that adept.

Entry will be a good addition, at least we will see where you enter and the potential profit to gain, not just saying + this and that.

Stop loss N/A (still running)Huh

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July 26, 2019, 05:13:28 PM
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I can't really tell what your entries, targets, and stop losses are. You should put your signals in a format where we can tell from the timestamps if these calls have been profitable.

There are some unattractive risk/rewards from the look of it, but I can't really tell what you're doing exactly. When you say "Stop loss N/A (still running)" does that mean you don't have a stop loss? You just decide to close at some point, based on your gut or something?

A good signal service will list entry/target/SL for every call. If you want to charge a paid subscription, you should provide free signals for a while (verifiable by timestamp) to show it's profitable.

Good luck!

Hey, sorry for the confusion with how I have been posting them. I send the signal when you should enter, I will post a screenshot of my telegram signals so you can check the time exactly when they were sent. My signals are always in a long or short position, but I only recommend taking the signal if you get to it before it has already made its move in your direction (if I send a short signal and you don't see it for awhile, and by the time you see it, it has already moved a decent amount, then I don't recommend taking it. Same for longs). I do not send targets, as my signals are based on trending data, and I can't know how far the trend will go. So its up to you when to take profit. I use pretty high leverage, so most of the time I'm usually just looking for about a 0.2%-1% gain. If I get a long in an overall downtrend, I will either not take the signal, or aim for a small profit. Same with going short in an overall uptrend. But if I get a long or short in the same direction as the overall trend, I will try to take a bigger profit. For stop loss, if the signal is for a long, then set it to the lowest point that the previous short hit, vice versa for a short signal (highest point that the previous long hit). Once that is set, every new candle (all my signals are based on the 5m time frame) you can move your stop loss down by about $2-$5 (more in the beginning, then slow it down). If I'm available while a trade is going I will also update you guys with the exact stop loss to set. The exact stop loss is where a signal goes from long to short, or from short to long, so if you don't have your stop loss set perfectly, and your in a short when a signal to go long comes in, then you need to get out of the position. Same the other way.

Hope that explains it better, any more questions and I will be happy to answer them. Remember I offer a 7 day free trial, so if you want to join the signals then just ask. You can even just paper trade with them if you want to or something to see how they work. My Telegram username is jobo44 and my public chat is t.me/ultimatebtccalls

Here is a link to the screenshot of the trades (time is in Mountain standard time or UTC-6) - https://imgur.com/a/sQE5TPi

I know that it may seem a little more confusing than just having an entry/target/stop loss, but it has been working really well for me!
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July 26, 2019, 05:20:12 PM
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I can't really tell what your entries, targets, and stop losses are. You should put your signals in a format where we can tell from the timestamps if these calls have been profitable.


Exactly, this is what I'm looking for, so it looks like some arbitrary numbers in the OP's post. And for those newbies out there who wanted to try it, they will be at lost specially then are not that adept.

Entry will be a good addition, at least we will see where you enter and the potential profit to gain, not just saying + this and that.

Stop loss N/A (still running)Huh

See above, I explain more. I also posted a link to the screenshot with my signals so you can see the exact time (its in Mountain time or UTC-6). There is a stop loss set, the reason I have the 'N/A' is because the trade is still going, and the stop loss is always moving, so I can't post what it was until after the trade is finished. Any other questions feel free to ask Smiley
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July 26, 2019, 07:17:05 PM
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I do not send targets, as my signals are based on trending data, and I can't know how far the trend will go. So its up to you when to take profit.
You provide a service that appeals to those who aren't capable of doing their own research, so based on that it would make sense for you to at least provide them a certain range within it's smart to take profits.

I have seen similar signal sellers who do actually recommend where to take profits. People who don't know anything about trading see the price go up and think it will go up further and therefore not sell. We all know what happens next....

On a more positive note, it's good to see that you recommend people to avoid BitMEX. I am actually quite shocked to see how many people have problems with them after a bit more research.

If we put their overload error aside, another reason to avoid BitMEX is because of how the CFTC digging into their platform. I wouldn't want anybody to lose funds just because they assume they are safe because they aren't from the US.

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July 26, 2019, 07:54:13 PM
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I do not send targets, as my signals are based on trending data, and I can't know how far the trend will go. So its up to you when to take profit.
You provide a service that appeals to those who aren't capable of doing their own research, so based on that it would make sense for you to at least provide them a certain range within it's smart to take profits.

I have seen similar signal sellers who do actually recommend where to take profits. People who don't know anything about trading see the price go up and think it will go up further and therefore not sell. We all know what happens next....

On a more positive note, it's good to see that you recommend people to avoid BitMEX. I am actually quite shocked to see how many people have problems with them after a bit more research.

If we put their overload error aside, another reason to avoid BitMEX is because of how the CFTC digging into their platform. I wouldn't want anybody to lose funds just because they assume they are safe because they aren't from the US.
Ok thanks for the advice, I will come up with some set take profits to aim for depending on what your risk level is. I have never actually used Bitmex myself, I just heard you should avoid it like the plague lol. I personally use Bybit and its been great, I especially like how if your the market maker, you actually get paid a little instead of paying a fee to trade.
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July 27, 2019, 05:32:11 PM
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Here are the latest BTC trades -
Short from July 25th max gain was 3.02%, stop loss was +1.43%
July 26th long max gain was 0.81%, stop loss was 0.69%
July 26th short max gain was 0.16%, stop loss was 0.63%
July 26th long max gain was 4.40%, stop loss was +1.63%
July 27th short max gain so far is 6.77%, stop loss is currently +0.33%

Here are the latest ETH trades -
July 25th short max gain was 3.56%, stop loss was +1.04%
July 26th long max gain was 0.13%, stop loss was 1.27%
July 26th short max gain was 0.42%, stop loss was 1.13%
July 26th long max gain was 1.93%, stop loss was 0.07%
July 26th short max gain was 0.56%, stop loss was 1.57%
July 26th long max gain was 1.26%, stop loss was 0.49%
July 27th short max gain so far is 8.06%, stop loss is currently +1.61%

Here are the latest XRP trades -
July 26th long max gain was 4.35%, stop loss was +2.12%
July 27th short max gain so far is 5.02%, stop loss is currently +0.61%

Some great trades lately! I recommend the following for take profit -
0.2% to 0.25% if you want to be conservative, 0.5% for normal risk, and 1%+ if you want to be risky. It also depends on your exchanges fees, I use bybit and highly recommend it, as if you are the market maker (limit order) you get a fee rebate instead of paying a fee to trade. I personally use 40% of my account on each trade with 25x leverage (which is the same as using 10% of your account with 100x leverage), so just getting a gain of 0.2% will increase your account by 2% overall (if you didn't have fees). I offer a 7 day free trial, so you don't have to risk anything to try this out! My Telegram username is jobo44 and you can join my public chat t.me/ultimatebtccalls
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Latest trades for BTC -
Short from the 27th max gain was 6.85%, stop loss was +4.62%
Long on the 28th max gain was 0.63%, stop loss was 0.16%
Short on the 28th max gain was 3.98%, stop loss was 0.30%
Long on the 28th max gain was 2.24%, stop loss was 0.05%
Short on the 29th max gain was 1.50%, stop loss was 0.97%
Long on the 29th max gain was 0.68%, stop loss was 1.54%
Current Short max gain is 0.78%, stop loss is currently 1.59%

Latest trades for ETH -
Short from the 27th max gain was 8.06%, stop loss was +4.77%
Long on the 27th max gain was 1.02%, stop loss was 0.62%
Short on the 28th max gain was 0.42%, stop loss was 1.08%
Long on the 28th max gain was 0.65%, stop loss was 0.98%
Short on the 28th max gain was 5.47%, stop loss was 0.46%
Long on the 28th max gain was 2.77%, stop loss was 1.43%
Short on the 29th max gain was 0.34%, stop loss was 1.72%
Long on the 29th max gain was 0.47%, stop loss was 0.77%
Short on the 29th max gain was 1.12%, stop loss was 1.24%
Long on the 29th max gain was 0.90%, stop loss was 1.29%
Current Short max gain is 0.09%, stop loss is currently 1.70%

Latest trades for XRP -
Short from the 27th max gain was 5.02%, stop loss was +2.82%
Long from the 27th max gain was 0.31%, stop loss was 1.37%
Short from the 28th max gain was 2.63%, stop loss was 0.48%
Long from the 28th max gain was 1.98%, stop loss was +0.83%
Short from the 28th max gain was 1.65%, stop loss was 0.02%
Current Long max gain is 0.11%, stop loss is currently 0.91%

Recommended take profit - 0.2% to 0.25% for conservative, 0.5% for normal, 1%+ for risky

If interested my Telegram username is jobo44 and my public chat group is t.me/ultimatebtccalls
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