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July 23, 2019, 07:43:49 AM
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Hindi ko alam kung ako lang ang nakararanas nito ngunit kulang kulang 100 posts na and nabura sa akin nitong linggo lamang na ito at patuloy pang nabubura sa tuwing nag popost ako. Hindi ko din alam kung may self moderator ako at nakaabang lang sa mga pinopost ko para burahin. Ngunit narito ang ilan sa aking mga nalaman kung bakit marahil nagkaroon ng ganitong pangyayari sa forum.

1. Nagkakaroon daw ng forum cleaning ang mga moderator at binubura ang mga spam posts at topics na umuulit lamang sa forum.

2. Lahat ng mga off topic posts ay binubura.

3. Sabi nila, yung mga may "i agree", "i think" or "the bitcoin now is _" yung mga binubura dahil hindi ito nakaka dagdag ng idea sa topic.

4. Tingin ko ay kasama na dito yung mga burst posts or posts kung saan higit sa isa sa loob ng isang oras.

5. Pag uulit ng ideya na nabanggit na. Kadalasan ay sa mga posts na maraming pages na.

Sadyang nakakalungkot lalo na't kung mayroon kang sinasalihan na campaign at required ang bilang ng posts per week ngunit kung iisipin at tama lang naman para ma improve pa lalo ang quality posts sa forum.

Ano ba ang dapat nating gawin?

1. Improvement and quality posts. Yung tipong kailangan mong magbigay mg halimbawa kung kinakailangan upang makapag ambag ng kaalaman.

2. Kung agree kana sa isa sa mga comment doon ay wag mo nang ulitin ang sinabi nya.

3. Ugaliing magbasa di lamang ng title at topic kundi pati narin ang mga comments.

4. Kung sa tingin mo ay may kapareho nang topic ang iyong cocommentan ay wag mo na itong ituloy. Malamang ay buburahin nadin ng moderator ang spam topic na iyon.


Sana lang ay nakatulong at sa ngayon ay masaya naman ako dahil natuto ako sa mga pagkakamali na ginawa ko noon.
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July 23, 2019, 07:59:12 AM
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I should avoid posting starting from I think, and I agree, LOL..
I have some deleted post also, like you it has also reduce my post count.

Thanks for the tip anyway, I had no idea until you posted the possible reasons.
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July 23, 2019, 08:36:59 AM
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I should avoid posting starting from I think, and I agree, LOL..
I have some deleted post also, like you it has also reduce my post count.

Thanks for the tip anyway, I had no idea until you posted the possible reasons.

Recently nangyari na din ito sakin twice na, madaming nabura sa mga past na post ko kumbaga masasabi mo na nahalukay kasi matagal na siguro by thread ang burahan nila kaya madami ang post na nabura. Mababasa naman yan sa meta section at yan talaga kadalasan ang dahilan.
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July 23, 2019, 08:53:50 AM
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Itong mga nakaraang araw sobrang dame ren ng post na nabura sakin, i also wonder why pero looking at the Meta board, malalaman mo na naglilinis talaga ng forum or moderator or may active na nagrereport sayo. Sa ngayon kailangan pa natin galingan sa pag post, para naman hinde sobrang dami ang mabura. Great tips mate, salamat sa pag open ng thread na ito.
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July 23, 2019, 09:02:51 AM
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Nagiging problema ang mga 'deleted posts' sa mga members ng forum KUNG ang tingin nila dito ay ang TANGING paraan upang makakuha ng pera. Oo, makakuha ka dito ng mga bitcoins or altcoins pero dapat ang mindset natin is tulungan ang bawat members at mag supplement ng mga information para mas lalong maging informative itong forum.

Ang mga bitcoins na nakukuha natin sa mga signature campaign ay produkto na lang ng pag-tulong natin. Kaya ang dahilan kung bakit nagkakaroon ng mga madaming deleted posts ay kung nag popost ka upang ma-satisfy ang campaign conditions of doing 20 per posts without even being relevant sa topic.

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July 23, 2019, 09:51:23 AM
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I'm relieved to know na hindi ako nag-iisa sa experience na ito.

Last week, madaming post din ang nadelete sa akin. At hindi lang iyon nakakakungkot, kundi nakakafrustrate din. Mapapaisip ka na lang talaga ng "Bakit?" Hindi ko nalalaman ang pinakang dahilan dahil iisa lang naman ang sinasabi sa notification kapag nadedelete ang post.

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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

Talagang nakapanghihinayang tuwing nababasa ko ang message na 'yan. But with the frustration also comes the introspection, evaluation of my self and my posts; kung ano ba ang kulang ko at ang dapat kong gawin. And it all comes down to one thought:
"Kailangan, mas galingan ko pa."

I admit, I tend to just post without giving proper thought of what I should say sometimes. At isa yun sa mga bagay na narealize ko na dapat kong baguhin dahil ayaw ko na madeletan ng post. And I'm positive that it will also lead to posting quality posts. Because, after all, mistakes give us the opportunity to learn something new.

I also want to share my mantra to everyone:
GIVE IT YOUR BEST SHOT DAHIL MINSAN, WALA NG NEXT TIME.

Hope this also helps! Smiley
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July 23, 2019, 10:26:18 AM
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I'm relieved to know na hindi ako nag-iisa sa experience na ito.
Oo naman, I'm pretty sure na lahat naman tayo ay napagdaanan na yan. Though it was normal hindi ibig sabihin nito ay dapat natin ipag walang bahala ito sapagkat makakasanayan natin. Kung may madelete na post sa atin then find out why (like what have you said) kasi kung hahayaan nating ganun then there will be no improvement at all. Andun pa din yung habit of bad posting dahil mas pinili mo na hindi itama ang pagkakamali.

That is why reporting to mods is very important regarding this matter. Kaunti ang mods para totally malinis ang bawat sulok ng forum na ito kaya lubhang vital ang mga good members na tulad natin para maisagawa ito. It's our duty to report a particular post if it strongly violates a rule, huwag na sana natin hayaang bumalik ang toxicity na bumalot dito especially nung hindi pa naiimplement ang Merit System because it really sucks, yung feeling na nawawala na ang essence of being a forum where all of its members interact with sensible discussions dahil tila ba naging malaking spam area na lang itong forum.

Since nabanggit ko na yung pagreport sa mga mods, I think isa din yun sa mga dahilan kung bakit tayo nadedeletan ng post (just based on my own experience Smiley). One time kasi ay may pinuna akong member sa international board na nag necropost, imagine almost one year ang gap ng post niya at last reply  Undecided. After ko magreply on the same thread patungkol sa violation nya, several minutes lamang ay hindi ko na nakita yung post ko sa history ko which means na nadelete ang buong thread. Honestly, I didn't felt bad that time but happy instead. Hindi na baleng madelete yung post ko because at least nakatulong ako somehow sa paglinis ng forum Smiley.
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July 23, 2019, 11:21:02 AM
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Ika-limang pwedeng gawin:

Do not try to quote and correct someone's comment na mali or spam na. Ang tendency kasi is mabubura din lang yun comment na yun at magiging irrelevant na din yung reply mo kaya malamang buburahin din. Mainam na i-report na lang sa moderator.
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July 23, 2019, 11:58:18 AM
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Since si @Bttzed03 inputted the 5th thing to do, ito ang pang anim na dapat na gawin. "Avoid to post mostly sa mga spam mega-threads" namely:
1. Bitcoin Discussion
2. Altcoin Discussion
3. Announcements (Altcoins) etc.,

I'm pretty sure na doon nanggagaling ang cleanup sa mga deleted posts na nangyayari ngayon sa forum.
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July 23, 2019, 12:08:13 PM
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Since si @Bttzed03 inputted the 5th thing to do, ito ang pang anim na dapat na gawin. "Avoid to post mostly sa mga spam mega-threads" namely:
1. Bitcoin Discussion
2. Altcoin Discussion
3. Announcements (Altcoins) etc.,

I'm pretty sure na doon nanggagaling ang cleanup sa mga deleted posts na nangyayari ngayon sa forum.

That's easy to say, those boards are popular because the discussion is generic, when it comes to technical kind of discussion, we only have a small number of members here who can participate. I think we just have to be careful, posting in any board is not a problem as long as we don't spam.

Actually, I believe that not all deleted posts are spam, there are also ideas with that post and I suggest that when mods sees the topic is not  relevant anymore, they just lock the thread but never delete it.
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July 23, 2019, 12:43:35 PM
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Ang active ng moderator ngayon sa pag delete, kahit anong on topic post siguro nate madedelete paren, kasi maraming post talaga ang nadedelete kahit on topic naman. Siguro ito na ang new way para maecourage tayo na mag post ng magaganda, wag ka magalit if maraming post ang nadedelete gawin nalang natin itong inspirasyon para gawin ang tama.
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July 23, 2019, 01:24:40 PM
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2. Lahat ng mga off topic posts ay binubura.
Not all.
Why? Not all off topic comments are irrelevant. Ang iba ay mayroong saysay at may silbi kumpara sa ibang komento kahit na ito ay off topic.

I sometimes do this, whenever I feel like doing it,... (Trolling)
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July 23, 2019, 01:27:37 PM
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mukhang aktibo na nga ang mga moderator sa pag delete ng post natin mostly sa mga mega threads, well wala na tayong magagawa kundi pagbutihin nalang natin sa susunod na post. Minsan naghihinayang ako ma delete ang post ko isa o apat na posts sa isang linggo pero sayo OP aabot ng 100 posts?  Shocked anyway salamat sa tips.
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July 23, 2019, 01:40:30 PM
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2. Lahat ng mga off topic posts ay binubura.
Not all.
Why? Not all off topic comments are irrelevant. Ang iba ay mayroong saysay at may silbi kumpara sa ibang komento kahit na ito ay off topic.

I sometimes do this, whenever I feel like doing it,... (Trolling)
You can’t be sure on that mate, if the moderator see that it can also be deleted. I saw a lot of throilling comments especially if the OP is just a troll but most of them are already deleted so wala talagang ligtas sa ngayon. Active ang mga moderator, siguro ito na ang task nila to delete thousands of post every week.

Advice ko lang magcomment dun sa mga topic na interesado ka, para alam mo kung ano ang sasabihen mo at para hinde ka maligaw ng landas.  Smiley
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July 23, 2019, 01:51:28 PM
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2. Lahat ng mga off topic posts ay binubura.
Not all.
Why? Not all off topic comments are irrelevant. Ang iba ay mayroong saysay at may silbi kumpara sa ibang komento kahit na ito ay off topic.

I sometimes do this, whenever I feel like doing it,... (Trolling)

This may be your personal idea. But as far as my own interpretation is concerned off-topic=irrelevant=nonconstructive.



Here is what the Global Moderator mprep has to say as regards off-topic posts:

2. No off-topic posts.



Meanwhile, another Global Moderator has this advice:

Before you post in a thread I would ask yourself is this really helpful or constructive...?

I guess a troll post is not.



And most importantly, Theymos, an administrator of this forum, is very clear about off-topics:

Off-topic replies have become a big problem. From now on, I will be deleting such replies without notice, forum-wide. If your replies disappear, this is probably why.

All replies must respond to the topic's original post in some way, even if they are replying to an on-topic reply. If your reply has nothing to do with the topic post, either add some content that is relevant or create a new topic.

Please report off-topic posts as soon as you see them.


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July 23, 2019, 02:23:01 PM
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I guess a troll post is not.
Just like what I've said, Not All.

From my own perception:
Posts are getting deleted because they're irrelevant,not helping, not contributive...(So yes, we have some things in common, but still Not all) Troll posts aren't just pure useless, they some what bring entertainment,...

Somewhere on this planet I have seen something like this:
"A Picture Sometimes meant a Thousand Words"

And another thing, is when you are about to describe or talks anything out of the bleu, but then again "it's merely" an off topic right? But it wasn't that irrelevant. Contributive? Of course it wasn't also.

What the Mods meant (IMO) for off topics are the ones who seems likely biased opinions, and hardly useless generic replies. Some jokes that aren't accepted when the whole thing is serious. Off Topics are not always bad, some are just going into their limits.

I'm well aware that sometime in the future my posts will be deleted, but still we can't deny the fact that off topics can pop up from nowhere. We just have a rule not to abuse it,

 
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Off-topic replies have become a big problem.

This only meant that it is being abused.
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July 23, 2019, 03:27:33 PM
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"Avoid to post mostly sa mga spam mega-threads" namely:
1. Bitcoin Discussion
2. Altcoin Discussion
3. Announcements (Altcoins) etc.,
Hindi rin. Totoo na maraming spam sa mga boards na ito pero meron pa din mga threads na maayos. Hindi mahalaga kung saan ka mag-post, kung sa tingin ng admin at moderators ay irrelevant at off-topic ang reply mo, mabubura pa din yun.


Actually, I believe that not all deleted posts are spam, there are also ideas with that post and I suggest that when mods sees the topic is not  relevant anymore, they just lock the thread but never delete it.
They are locking topics that are no longer relevant. They delete off-topic replies to relevant topics.
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July 23, 2019, 03:46:50 PM
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Ako rin mayroong mga post na nadelete sa akin nitong mga nakaraang araw iilan lang naman iyon, iaaply ko lahat ng mga tips at mga dapat iavoid na andito para hindi madelete ang aking post at I'll make sure na magiging on topic para hindi mabaawasan ang aking post dito sa forum.
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July 23, 2019, 11:01:34 PM
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"Avoid to post mostly sa mga spam mega-threads" namely:
1. Bitcoin Discussion
2. Altcoin Discussion
3. Announcements (Altcoins) etc.,
Hindi rin. Totoo na maraming spam sa mga boards na ito pero meron pa din mga threads na maayos. Hindi mahalaga kung saan ka mag-post, kung sa tingin ng admin at moderators ay irrelevant at off-topic ang reply mo, mabubura pa din yun.


Actually, I believe that not all deleted posts are spam, there are also ideas with that post and I suggest that when mods sees the topic is not  relevant anymore, they just lock the thread but never delete it.
They are locking topics that are no longer relevant. They delete off-topic replies to relevant topics.

Minsan di ko din alam ang basis nila. Yung mga okay naman na posts sa mga section na yan binubura din. Yung parang di na pwede mag comment kahit relevant naman yung sinasabi mo pero di naman nala lock yung topic. Mas okay siguro na mas lawakan nila dahilan at ipaliwanag ng maayos ang binubura nilang posts sa personal message di lang yung basta

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July 24, 2019, 02:10:48 PM
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I read some posts in meta kung bakit nade-delete ang mga ibang posts.

Some reason ay yung mga may quoted na posts niyo and if nadelete yun basically mawawalan na ng saysay yung posts niyo dahil nadelete yung qinuote niyo, which na it doesn’t add sa discussion or irrelevant.

E.g
Quote from: Ikaw
Quote from: Other user
Example 1
Example 2

Kapag yung ”Other user” ay na delete because of being irrelevant or does not have value to add in the discussion. Then, there’s no point na manatili pa yung posts niyo din because nabura na yung posts ni “Other user” na qinuote niyo.

And yung mga iba naman ay nasagot na yung topic and pa ulit-ulit na lang yung posts na naka re-phrase. I’m wishing to all my fellow countrymen to always strive everyday na mag improve, wag matakot magkamali.

sabi nga ni Michelle obama “Failure is an part of your growth... Don’t be afraid to fail.
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