[Discussion] The International 2019: Dota 2 World Championship

[GreatArkansas]

The International 2019 Groups.
What do you think?

The Group A is quite difficult, Team Liquid, 2017 The International Champion and Team Secret are there,  the Dota Pro Circuit 2018-2019 Top 1.
And also, two Philippines based team are in Group A with some higher tier teams.

Group B much exciting to me, but our recent The International 2018 is here the OG. Being included in Group B for OG will make them safe for another Championship for this The International? Exciting.

[stomachgrowls]

The International 2019 Groups.
What do you think?

The Group A is quite difficult, Team Liquid, 2017 The International Champion and Team Secret are there,  the Dota Pro Circuit 2018-2019 Top 1.
And also, two Philippines based team are in Group A with some higher tier teams.

Group B much exciting to me, but our recent The International 2018 is here the OG. Being included in Group B for OG will make them safe for another Championship for this The International? Exciting.

That group A is a hell for those Asean teams like TNC and Mineski.Imagine on having Secret,Liquid,LGD and Newbee? They cant beat up those teams but lets see on how they would give a fight.

For Group B,OG and EG is there and the rest isnt really that a threat.I'll seeing on how Navi would perform this TI 9 yet it didnt able to get in on last year international and also in previous years 2018,2017...

[boyptc]

Alright the group stage is now out, this is exciting. Few more hours and let's get it on.

I don't want to assume that 'this team can't win'. This is Dota 2 and everything can happen. Both group stage are exciting, I'm more tuning in for the underdogs.

[Darker45]

Watching TNC Pro Team vs. Keen Gaming right now. They are currently picking their heroes.

My bet goes to TNC. Let us see who will be the better team.

Edit: Sweet victory for TNC! Game 1 was an easy game. Game 2 was a triumphant come-back.

[crwth]

Watching TNC Pro Team vs. Keen Gaming right now. They are currently picking their heroes.

My bet goes to TNC. Let us see who will be the better team.

You are right! Keen has the lead with the net worth because of alche but the victor is still TNC. Congrats to them.

[Darker45]

Watching TNC Pro Team vs. Keen Gaming right now. They are currently picking their heroes.

My bet goes to TNC. Let us see who will be the better team.

You are right! Keen has the lead with the net worth because of alche but the victor is still TNC. Congrats to them.

The wiser moves of TNC changed the entire game. Keen's lead which started so early was not maximized.

[Ranly123]

Watching TNC Pro Team vs. Keen Gaming right now. They are currently picking their heroes.

My bet goes to TNC. Let us see who will be the better team.

Edit: Sweet victory for TNC! Game 1 was an easy game. Game 2 was a triumphant come-back.

Nice game between keen gaming and tnc lately. But when TNC matched with minesky, they cannot seem to catch the Game and lost. Anyways, I am still wanting to see TNC climb up the stage to win this ti9.

[boyptc]

Nice game between keen gaming and tnc lately. But when TNC matched with minesky, they cannot seem to catch the Game and lost. Anyways, I am still wanting to see TNC climb up the stage to win this ti9.

TNC use to lose against the Mineski, most of the time.

They can beat higher tier teams like PSG.LGD, NIP and other good teams. But with Mineski, they've always ended up losing against them.

[Darker45]

Nice game between keen gaming and tnc lately. But when TNC matched with minesky, they cannot seem to catch the Game and lost. Anyways, I am still wanting to see TNC climb up the stage to win this ti9.

TNC use to lose against the Mineski, most of the time.

They can beat higher tier teams like PSG.LGD, NIP and other good teams. But with Mineski, they've always ended up losing against them.

Which made me puzzled. I really don't understand why TNC cannot beat Mineski. Mineski is really no match for TNC if you do all the technical analyses of their previous games. Mineski gaming is almost equivalent to garbage gaming and yet TNC always succumb to them. TNC can make glorious come-backs just what they did yesterday against Keen and yet they seem helpless against Mineski. Mineski is like their kryptonite. 

[boyptc]

Nice game between keen gaming and tnc lately. But when TNC matched with minesky, they cannot seem to catch the Game and lost. Anyways, I am still wanting to see TNC climb up the stage to win this ti9.

TNC use to lose against the Mineski, most of the time.

They can beat higher tier teams like PSG.LGD, NIP and other good teams. But with Mineski, they've always ended up losing against them.

Which made me puzzled. I really don't understand why TNC cannot beat Mineski. Mineski is really no match for TNC if you do all the technical analyses of their previous games. Mineski gaming is almost equivalent to garbage gaming and yet TNC always succumb to them. TNC can make glorious come-backs just what they did yesterday against Keen and yet they seem helpless against Mineski. Mineski is like their kryptonite. 

I wouldn't say that Mineski's play style is garbage, they will not make it to the International if they are like that.

But I agree that Mineski seems to be the weakness of TNC. I think it's because that they used to know each others playstyle and Mineski knows how to counter the playstyle of TNC.

[NavI_027]

But I agree that Mineski seems to be the weakness of TNC. I think it's because that they used to know each others playstyle and Mineski knows how to counter the playstyle of TNC.

For me they are not definitely the weakness of TNC because we all knew that they're way stronger than that. Imagine, they can be able to beat OG but lose to their fellow countrymen; so funny to think, right ?. I also watched their game yesterday and as I read down the comments they said TNC intended to lose or in our term it was called "bigay" or "benta". Why they did such thing? No one knows but the most possible reason is to keep Mineski alive and got a higher chance for the Filipinos to win the championship (IMO).

[GreatArkansas]

I can't even believe that TNC is on top of group A standing, while on the Group B, the EG is really bleeding. What happened to the EG? Sleeping Dragon? I am still waiting for EG will be the top seeder on the Group B of the tournament.

And good news because most of the ASIAN teams are playing good, especially the TNC Predators and Mineski on Group A while Fnatic on Group B. I am rooting for them, especially on Mineski and TNC since in their group, high tier teams are their opponents. I'm so excited about the main stage games soon.

[boyptc]

But I agree that Mineski seems to be the weakness of TNC. I think it's because that they used to know each others playstyle and Mineski knows how to counter the playstyle of TNC.

For me they are not definitely the weakness of TNC because we all knew that they're way stronger than that. Imagine, they can be able to beat OG but lose to their fellow countrymen; so funny to think, right ?. I also watched their game yesterday and as I read down the comments they said TNC intended to lose or in our term it was called "bigay" or "benta". Why they did such thing? No one knows but the most possible reason is to keep Mineski alive and got a higher chance for the Filipinos to win the championship (IMO).

You misunderstood what I've said about they are the weakness of TNC. What I mean to say that they are used to lose against Mineski most of the time.

And even before when there's still Team Faceless, they can't win against that team.

[Darker45]

I can't even believe that TNC is on top of group A standing, while on the Group B, the EG is really bleeding. What happened to the EG? Sleeping Dragon? I am still waiting for EG will be the top seeder on the Group B of the tournament.

And good news because most of the ASIAN teams are playing good, especially the TNC Predators and Mineski on Group A while Fnatic on Group B. I am rooting for them, especially on Mineski and TNC since in their group, high tier teams are their opponents. I'm so excited about the main stage games soon.

Mineski has already got past TNC in the group A standing, currently at the 3rd rank. TNC is already at the 4th rank. Team Secret is still the number one, the only team that remains to be undefeated until now. I still am confused with the way Mineski won and lost their games. It seems to me that their games adjust to their opponents, getting better against better teams and stooping down low when up against not so good ones.

EG is not the only team with much expectations that turned out to be a poor performer. Team Liquid is also performing rather bad. At least as far as the first couple of days of the tournament is concerned.  OG and Vici are gonna be battling against the top spot in group B.

[boyptc]

EG is not the only team with much expectations that turned out to be a poor performer. Team Liquid is also performing rather bad. At least as far as the first couple of days of the tournament is concerned.  OG and Vici are gonna be battling against the top spot in group B.

Honestly, I've expected that Keen Gaming will be able to par with the high tier teams but this TI is full of surprises.

OG is consistent, Secret is consistent and a surprise from NaVi.

[MMysterious]

But I agree that Mineski seems to be the weakness of TNC. I think it's because that they used to know each others playstyle and Mineski knows how to counter the playstyle of TNC.

For me they are not definitely the weakness of TNC because we all knew that they're way stronger than that. Imagine, they can be able to beat OG but lose to their fellow countrymen; so funny to think, right ?. I also watched their game yesterday and as I read down the comments they said TNC intended to lose or in our term it was called "bigay" or "benta". Why they did such thing? No one knows but the most possible reason is to keep Mineski alive and got a higher chance for the Filipinos to win the championship (IMO).

People saying TNC gave that win to Mineski are either ignorants or just plainly casuals. Solid TNC and Mineski fans are always hostile to each other. Rumors is that even their team managements and players are trading trash talks when outside the camera and off the public. But still, there is no point in giving that game. It was just TNCs second game and Mineskis first, so no point that win keeps Mineski alive.

[boyptc]

But I agree that Mineski seems to be the weakness of TNC. I think it's because that they used to know each others playstyle and Mineski knows how to counter the playstyle of TNC.

For me they are not definitely the weakness of TNC because we all knew that they're way stronger than that. Imagine, they can be able to beat OG but lose to their fellow countrymen; so funny to think, right ?. I also watched their game yesterday and as I read down the comments they said TNC intended to lose or in our term it was called "bigay" or "benta". Why they did such thing? No one knows but the most possible reason is to keep Mineski alive and got a higher chance for the Filipinos to win the championship (IMO).

People saying TNC gave that win to Mineski are either ignorants or just plainly casuals. Solid TNC and Mineski fans are always hostile to each other. Rumors is that even their team managements and players are trading trash talks when outside the camera and off the public. But still, there is no point in giving that game. It was just TNCs second game and Mineskis first, so no point that win keeps Mineski alive.

Really? there are fans who said that TNC gave that win to Mski? how it can be? no doubt that Mineski has been a good team and how many times did they went to TI? About the trashtalks, I don't think that they are too unprofessional for that unless it's just a friendly trashtalk.

Accept it guys that whether they win or lose, accept defeat and victory. This is The International and every team is doing their best to get on the upper bracket seed to secure higher prize pot for their places.

[Janation]

Nice game between keen gaming and tnc lately. But when TNC matched with minesky, they cannot seem to catch the Game and lost. Anyways, I am still wanting to see TNC climb up the stage to win this ti9.

TNC use to lose against the Mineski, most of the time.

They can beat higher tier teams like PSG.LGD, NIP and other good teams. But with Mineski, they've always ended up losing against them.

Which made me puzzled. I really don't understand why TNC cannot beat Mineski. Mineski is really no match for TNC if you do all the technical analyses of their previous games. Mineski gaming is almost equivalent to garbage gaming and yet TNC always succumb to them. TNC can make glorious come-backs just what they did yesterday against Keen and yet they seem helpless against Mineski. Mineski is like their kryptonite. 

Don't say that, it is just that Mineski is also SEA team, that is why they know how TNC would do their strats.

Another thing is that Mineski is used to long game time, and they are usually making those comeback plays that would really surprise a lot of people. TNC is doing fine, Mineski is doing great but for me, Team Liquid is not that great this season and I don't know what is happening. w33 is a great player but it seems that it has the weak side and the strong side to them, do you think Matu is better than w33?

[Darker45]

But I agree that Mineski seems to be the weakness of TNC. I think it's because that they used to know each others playstyle and Mineski knows how to counter the playstyle of TNC.

For me they are not definitely the weakness of TNC because we all knew that they're way stronger than that. Imagine, they can be able to beat OG but lose to their fellow countrymen; so funny to think, right ?. I also watched their game yesterday and as I read down the comments they said TNC intended to lose or in our term it was called "bigay" or "benta". Why they did such thing? No one knows but the most possible reason is to keep Mineski alive and got a higher chance for the Filipinos to win the championship (IMO).

People saying TNC gave that win to Mineski are either ignorants or just plainly casuals. Solid TNC and Mineski fans are always hostile to each other. Rumors is that even their team managements and players are trading trash talks when outside the camera and off the public. But still, there is no point in giving that game. It was just TNCs second game and Mineskis first, so no point that win keeps Mineski alive.

Really? there are fans who said that TNC gave that win to Mski? how it can be? no doubt that Mineski has been a good team and how many times did they went to TI? About the trashtalks, I don't think that they are too unprofessional for that unless it's just a friendly trashtalk.

Accept it guys that whether they win or lose, accept defeat and victory. This is The International and every team is doing their best to get on the upper bracket seed to secure higher prize pot for their places.

Some TNC fans just couldn't accept the fact that they are given a 2-0 match by Mineski. Well, I don't think every single TNC fan is against Mineski. I believe that most of TNC's fans are also fans of Mineski, and even Fnatic.  Rumors of that game-selling are nothing but products of fans who couldn't make something rational from game results.

Anyway, so much for this rumor-mongering topic. TNC and Mineski are both great teams. Do I need to give you proof? First, the two teams were able to make it to TI9. Second, they are the only teams who were able to give Team Secret's unblemished record some nice scratch. And sadly, I lost some bucks out of those games.     

[boyptc]

Some TNC fans just couldn't accept the fact that they are given a 2-0 match by Mineski. Well, I don't think every single TNC fan is against Mineski. I believe that most of TNC's fans are also fans of Mineski, and even Fnatic.  Rumors of that game-selling are nothing but products of fans who couldn't make something rational from game results.

Anyway, so much for this rumor-mongering topic. TNC and Mineski are both great teams. Do I need to give you proof? First, the two teams were able to make it to TI9. Second, they are the only teams who were able to give Team Secret's unblemished record some nice scratch. And sadly, I lost some bucks out of those games.     

People from the SEA region are supporting the teams that originated from the SEA. But you can't blame those haters that can accept that fact that they've lost against Mineski.

However the good news is that both teams beat the most favorite team in the tourney, Secret.