[New Zealand] Far-right extremism to be included in official terror warnings

[bluefirecorp_]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/far-right-terror-warning-uk-islamist-security-threat-attack-a9017296.html

After US's MAGA bomber, we're seeing more and more radicalized right-wing loonies. Finally classifying them as terrorists sounds like a good plan. These nut jobs can't be civil in political discourse, so they have to resort to violence.

[TECSHARE]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/far-right-terror-warning-uk-islamist-security-threat-attack-a9017296.html

After US's MAGA bomber, we're seeing more and more radicalized right-wing loonies. Finally classifying them as terrorists sounds like a good plan. These nut jobs can't be civil in political discourse, so they have to resort to violence.

This is an interesting narrative. Funny when I go on youtube and put in the words "ANTIFA ATTACKS" I am treated to endless hours of footage of these leftist groups engaged in violence and general criminal activity. Some how I can't seem to find the same for this invisible scourge of this right wing terrorist uprising. Just a week ago some one who was a self proclaimed member of ANTIFA armed with a rifle attacked an ICE facility with maltov cocktails before being shot to death. How long ago was that fake bomb guy and you are still screaming from the mountain tops about it? Leftist violence is regular, full of actual injuries, and under reported. "right wing" violence is sporadic, blown out of proportion, and over reported. Leftist violence has been a regular occurrence since at least 2016. If you are against political violence just perhaps we should look at groups like ANTIFA which actively and openly are engaged in criminal activity, assaults, attempted murders, attacks on government facilities, etc. Nah, lets ignore that because they found some wing bat who didn't injure anyone a year ago with a Trump hat.

[bluefirecorp_]

This is an interesting narrative. Funny when I go on youtube and put in the words "ANTIFA ATTACKS" I am treated to endless hours of footage of these leftist groups engaged in violence and general criminal activity. Some how I can't seem to find the same for this invisible scourge of this right wing terrorist uprising. Just a week ago some one who was a self proclaimed member of ANTIFA armed with a rifle attacked an ICE facility with maltov cocktails before being shot to death. How long ago was that fake bomb guy and you are still screaming from the mountain tops about it? Leftist violence is regular, full of actual injuries, and under reported. "right wing" violence is sporadic, blown out of proportion, and over reported. Leftist violence has been a regular occurrence since at least 2016. If you are against political violence just perhaps we should look at groups like ANTIFA which actively and openly are engaged in criminal activity, assaults, attempted murders, attacks on government facilities, etc. Nah, lets ignore that because they found some wing bat a year ago with a Trump hat.

False flag operations by right-wing shills, as well as fake videos and fake news sites

As opposed to these far right wing radicals literally committing mass murders which are documented heavily.

But you know that, being a state agent, don't you Mr. Techshare, the spam-a-lot king

[TECSHARE]

This is an interesting narrative. Funny when I go on youtube and put in the words "ANTIFA ATTACKS" I am treated to endless hours of footage of these leftist groups engaged in violence and general criminal activity. Some how I can't seem to find the same for this invisible scourge of this right wing terrorist uprising. Just a week ago some one who was a self proclaimed member of ANTIFA armed with a rifle attacked an ICE facility with maltov cocktails before being shot to death. How long ago was that fake bomb guy and you are still screaming from the mountain tops about it? Leftist violence is regular, full of actual injuries, and under reported. "right wing" violence is sporadic, blown out of proportion, and over reported. Leftist violence has been a regular occurrence since at least 2016. If you are against political violence just perhaps we should look at groups like ANTIFA which actively and openly are engaged in criminal activity, assaults, attempted murders, attacks on government facilities, etc. Nah, lets ignore that because they found some wing bat a year ago with a Trump hat.

False flag operations by right-wing shills, as well as fake videos and fake news sites

As opposed to these far right wing radicals literally committing mass murders which are documented heavily.

But you know that, being a state agent, don't you Mr. Techshare, the spam-a-lot king

Well documented eh? Then you should have no problem producing any of them with sources should you? Please do. I am a state agent now eh? Shit, I haven't been getting my paychecks. Who do I contact to get my back pay? BTW its Tecshare, I know spelling words which are literally right in front of you is hard, but please try.

[bluefirecorp_]

Well documented eh?

Someone didn't read the news article in OP. Perhaps you should head back to gradeschool where you learn to read posts before commenting Mr. Spam king

[TECSHARE]

Well documented eh?

Someone didn't read the news article in OP. Perhaps you should head back to gradeschool where you learn to read posts before commenting Mr. Spam king

As I expected, you can't. Maybe you should learn what a source is, I will go back to grade school as soon as you get out of your jammies, make your lunch, and get in the car so I can drop you off there.

[bluefirecorp_]

Oh, look, right wing media radicalizing people.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/23/fox-news-helped-radicalize-domestic-terrorist-cesar-sayoc-say-his-lawyers/

Kinda interesting how many people actually fall for the right-wing propaganda, honestly.

[TECSHARE]

Oh, look, right wing media radicalizing people.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/23/fox-news-helped-radicalize-domestic-terrorist-cesar-sayoc-say-his-lawyers/

Kinda interesting how many people actually fall for the right-wing propaganda, honestly.

First of all, you are still talking about the same guy. Second of all, are we talking about terrorism or "radicalizing media"? I know you frothing leftists have trouble distinguishing between speech and action, but I can source countless incidents of left wing violence resulting in physical harm of human beings. So far you have been talking about one loon who never intended to, nor actually injured anyone. Please, do source a few acts of "right wing" violence resulting in injury in recent times. If it is such an increasing issue, this should not be hard should it?

Here have a few sources of left wing violence resulting in injury just to demonstrate my point:


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/steve-scalise-congress-shot-alexandria-virginia.html
https://reason.com/2019/06/29/antifa-andy-ngo-mob-milkshake-violence/
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235
https://www.theepochtimes.com/69-year-old-anti-fascist-dies-after-attacking-immigrant-detention-facility-on-eve-of-planned-deportations_3001511.html
https://www.dailycal.org/2018/08/10/former-college-professor-takes-3-year-probation-plea-deal-assault-case/
Antifa Professor Eric Clanton Gets 3 Years Probation, Felony Charges Dropped https://www.bitchute.com/video/hU8PKxdU_0s/
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/1/two-more-oregon-men-left-bloody-antifa-attack-port/
Antifa Attacks Old Man With Crowbar in Portland https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=khwFr_1561918078
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/02/15/rohrabacher-staffer-71-knocked-unconscious-by-group-delivering-valentines-day-cards/
https://billypenn.com/2018/11/17/jewish-man-mistakenly-identified-as-proud-boy-attacked-at-right-wing-rally-in-philadelphia/
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/12/18/im-mexican-marines-bewildered-after-being-called-nazis-beat-up-by-alleged-antifa-mob/


You will notice the left likes to attack old people who can't defend themselves a lot, also they prefer to attack in groups... could it be because they are so weak and scared they have to pick targets for their indiscriminate rage that can't fight back?

[Spendulus]

Oh, look, right wing media radicalizing people.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/23/fox-news-helped-radicalize-domestic-terrorist-cesar-sayoc-say-his-lawyers/

Kinda interesting how many people actually fall for the right-wing propaganda, honestly.

Fox News isn't "right wing," and it isn't "propaganda."

What "say his lawyers" is not factual.

[bluefirecorp_]

Fox News isn't "right wing," and it isn't "propaganda."

Mr. Sayoc at a Trump Rally
Mr. Sayoc began watching Fox News religiously and following Trump
supporters on social media. He became a vocal political participant on Facebook,
something he had not done previously. He was not discerning of the pro-Trump
information he received, and by the time of his arrest, he was “connected” to hundreds
of right-wing Facebook groups. Many of these groups promoted various conspiracy
theories and, more generally, the idea that Trump’s critics were dangerous,
unpatriotic, and evil. See Ex. V (excerpting social media posts that Mr. Sayoc received

Ah, more right wing conspiracy; "facts of the case don't matter!'

[TECSHARE]

Fox News isn't "right wing," and it isn't "propaganda."

Mr. Sayoc at a Trump Rally
Mr. Sayoc began watching Fox News religiously and following Trump
supporters on social media. He became a vocal political participant on Facebook,
something he had not done previously. He was not discerning of the pro-Trump
information he received, and by the time of his arrest, he was “connected” to hundreds
of right-wing Facebook groups. Many of these groups promoted various conspiracy
theories and, more generally, the idea that Trump’s critics were dangerous,
unpatriotic, and evil. See Ex. V (excerpting social media posts that Mr. Sayoc received

Ah, more right wing conspiracy; "facts of the case don't matter!'

Are we talking about Fox News or Facebook groups? Are you having trouble distinguishing the two? I am still waiting for your reply BTW.

[Spendulus]

Fox News isn't "right wing," and it isn't "propaganda."

Mr. Sayoc at a Trump Rally
Mr. Sayoc began watching Fox News religiously and following Trump
supporters on social media. He became a vocal political participant on Facebook,
something he had not done previously. He was not discerning of the pro-Trump
information he received, and by the time of his arrest, he was “connected” to hundreds
of right-wing Facebook groups. Many of these groups promoted various conspiracy
theories and, more generally, the idea that Trump’s critics were dangerous,
unpatriotic, and evil. See Ex. V (excerpting social media posts that Mr. Sayoc received

Ah, more right wing conspiracy; "facts of the case don't matter!'

Evidence for your crackpot theories really shouldn't come from lawyers struggling to defend some crazy guy.

You need to do better, not that that would cause your ideas to be taken seriously.

Fox News isn't "right wing," it's slightly to the right of center.

Definitely not propaganda. For you to say that indicates you don't know the meaning of the phrase.

[KingScorpio]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/far-right-terror-warning-uk-islamist-security-threat-attack-a9017296.html

After US's MAGA bomber, we're seeing more and more radicalized right-wing loonies. Finally classifying them as terrorists sounds like a good plan. These nut jobs can't be civil in political discourse, so they have to resort to violence.

everyone is an extremists eccept this in power in the central bank that hold the power they are correct, till they are being challenged and stripped of their financial power.

wait till "minorities" or "ethnic groups" start with their right wing extremism

[coolcoinz]

I agree that it's funny that they are warning about right extremism but completely ignoring the left. It's a similar situation to what the left is doing with crimes committed by muslims in the EU. They rarely give away the nationality and religion of the perpetrator and calling all of them "Asians".
These days when you're a patriot you are labeled a right extremist by the liberal media and when you are a nationalist you are labeled a terrorist. I say fuck that rhetoric. Not all of us want to live with your multicultural pot of fake equality.

[TECSHARE]

[Naida_BR]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/far-right-terror-warning-uk-islamist-security-threat-attack-a9017296.html

After US's MAGA bomber, we're seeing more and more radicalized right-wing loonies. Finally classifying them as terrorists sounds like a good plan. These nut jobs can't be civil in political discourse, so they have to resort to violence.

Well, terrorism is not placed to the left or right side.
It sounds like a good plan if all those extremists from any side they come, would be classified as potential threads to the country. The authorities already know who is a thread to the homeland, they just have to take measures before they do any illegal activity.

[Spendulus]

....They rarely give away the nationality and religion of the perpetrator and calling all of them "Asians". ....

This was first noticed when media coverage of the british sex grooming rings called them "Asians."

At the time and to this day I can't see Middle Easterners being correctly called "Asians." The Middle East on down through Africa is not Asia.

[squatz1]

This is an interesting narrative. Funny when I go on youtube and put in the words "ANTIFA ATTACKS" I am treated to endless hours of footage of these leftist groups engaged in violence and general criminal activity. Some how I can't seem to find the same for this invisible scourge of this right wing terrorist uprising. Just a week ago some one who was a self proclaimed member of ANTIFA armed with a rifle attacked an ICE facility with maltov cocktails before being shot to death. How long ago was that fake bomb guy and you are still screaming from the mountain tops about it? Leftist violence is regular, full of actual injuries, and under reported. "right wing" violence is sporadic, blown out of proportion, and over reported. Leftist violence has been a regular occurrence since at least 2016. If you are against political violence just perhaps we should look at groups like ANTIFA which actively and openly are engaged in criminal activity, assaults, attempted murders, attacks on government facilities, etc. Nah, lets ignore that because they found some wing bat a year ago with a Trump hat.

False flag operations by right-wing shills, as well as fake videos and fake news sites

As opposed to these far right wing radicals literally committing mass murders which are documented heavily.

But you know that, being a state agent, don't you Mr. Techshare, the spam-a-lot king

While yes, it's fair to say that people in Antifa aren't going out and shooting people up, or blowing people up, or any other sort of murderous terrorist activities. But I would still call attacking people terrorist activities without a doubt.

I don't think it's fair to say that far right wing extremism is the reason behind terrorism without saying that there are people on both sides that commit these atrocious acts. I don't think there's a particular political group that wants these things to happen -- these are loonies in every portion of the political spectrum doing these things.

Once we say that the left or the right is the only group behind these activities, all we're doing is further dividing ourselves.

[TECSHARE]

False flag operations by right-wing shills, as well as fake videos and fake news sites

As opposed to these far right wing radicals literally committing mass murders which are documented heavily.

But you know that, being a state agent, don't you Mr. Techshare, the spam-a-lot king

While yes, it's fair to say that people in Antifa aren't going out and shooting people up, or blowing people up, or any other sort of murderous terrorist activities. But I would still call attacking people terrorist activities without a doubt.

I don't think it's fair to say that far right wing extremism is the reason behind terrorism without saying that there are people on both sides that commit these atrocious acts. I don't think there's a particular political group that wants these things to happen -- these are loonies in every portion of the political spectrum doing these things.

Once we say that the left or the right is the only group behind these activities, all we're doing is further dividing ourselves.

It is fair to say? What the fuck are you talking about? What is all of this?

First of all, you are still talking about the same guy. Second of all, are we talking about terrorism or "radicalizing media"? I know you frothing leftists have trouble distinguishing between speech and action, but I can source countless incidents of left wing violence resulting in physical harm of human beings. So far you have been talking about one loon who never intended to, nor actually injured anyone. Please, do source a few acts of "right wing" violence resulting in injury in recent times. If it is such an increasing issue, this should not be hard should it?

Here have a few sources of left wing violence resulting in injury just to demonstrate my point:


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/steve-scalise-congress-shot-alexandria-virginia.html
https://reason.com/2019/06/29/antifa-andy-ngo-mob-milkshake-violence/
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235
https://www.theepochtimes.com/69-year-old-anti-fascist-dies-after-attacking-immigrant-detention-facility-on-eve-of-planned-deportations_3001511.html
https://www.dailycal.org/2018/08/10/former-college-professor-takes-3-year-probation-plea-deal-assault-case/
Antifa Professor Eric Clanton Gets 3 Years Probation, Felony Charges Dropped https://www.bitchute.com/video/hU8PKxdU_0s/
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/1/two-more-oregon-men-left-bloody-antifa-attack-port/
Antifa Attacks Old Man With Crowbar in Portland https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=khwFr_1561918078
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/02/15/rohrabacher-staffer-71-knocked-unconscious-by-group-delivering-valentines-day-cards/
https://billypenn.com/2018/11/17/jewish-man-mistakenly-identified-as-proud-boy-attacked-at-right-wing-rally-in-philadelphia/
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/12/18/im-mexican-marines-bewildered-after-being-called-nazis-beat-up-by-alleged-antifa-mob/


You will notice the left likes to attack old people who can't defend themselves a lot, also they prefer to attack in groups... could it be because they are so weak and scared they have to pick targets for their indiscriminate rage that can't fight back?

Also the Gilroy Garlic festival shooter was openly involved with ANTIFA. Of course they still call it "right wing" anyway. I agree this is 100% a divide and conquer strategy, but pretending as if the violence on "both sides" is the same is a false equivalency. The left is far more regularly violent and advocating openly for violence as the media runs defense for them while simultaneously taking every act of violence and claiming it to be the act of right wing nazis radicalized by the internet, so we need to take the guns and speech.

 

[squatz1]

It is fair to say? What the fuck are you talking about? What is all of this?

Fair to say was in reference to Antifa not commiting any major terrorist activity on US soil, this is more in reference to saying that they haven't shot at Americans, nor have they used suicide bombers, and so on and so forth.

That's not me saying that their conduct is okay. But it'd be unfair to compare them to a group like ISIS or something along those lines if you understand what I mean.