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February 15, 2025, 04:14:53 AM
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New Zealand and Pakistan won three consecutive matches on their home ground and became champions. New Zealand's team performance was quite good, especially thanks to Williamson for his captaincy. The New Zealand team had a strong team consisting of batsmen and bowlers, due to which New Zealand scored over 300 runs in every match. Even if Pakistan had scored 300 runs in the final, it would not have been difficult for New Zealand to win.

Recently New Zealand is performing exceptionally well in sub-continental conditions. They won the test series in India by a margin of 3-0, and that put India out of contention for the WTC finals. And now they have become the champions in Pakistan. And they achieved all this without much support from the spinners. New Zealand is heavily dependent on seamers, and this time experienced pacers such as Trent Boult and Tim Southee were absent. But then, Will O’Rourke and Mitchell Santner carried out their duties extremely well.


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February 15, 2025, 09:13:35 AM
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I think there are many reasons for Pakistan's match, one of them being their poor batting line-up. Pakistan don't have any confident players who can win the match Mohammad Rizwan and Salman Ali Agha are giving good performances but it is not the intention of all the other players to show the responsibility.

Yesterday Pakistan once again lost their fans hopes, I think Babar Azam should not open the game in the Champions Trophy, he is a good player as one down as he is used to it before and scoring well, he could open in T20 and in ODI, Test matches he needs to come in one down and then maybe he is able to make a partnership and steady the pressurized situation while scoring well. Salman Ali Agha has good position in the playing 11 and also Muhammad Rizwan, which is why they both are playing with consistency and in good form but Babar Azam is unable to adjust himself as an opener.

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February 15, 2025, 09:32:45 AM
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Final squads are out for every team and few things to note

- Big names are missing out (mainly seamers)
- The batting core is intact for almost every team except Australia because it's going into a transition phase.

* Afghanistan is Afghanistan. They will upset everyone on their day and are incredibly capable of bottling up from winning positions.
* Australia looks depleted but these folks are an ICC tourney juggernaut.  
* No hopes for Bangladesh
* England has talent and many match winners in the squad but looks ridiculously out of form unit and spin is their major nemesis.
* India are gambling heavily on spin because they are playing in Dubai, batting is stacked and probably the strongest on the list but the inexperienced seam department is a big worry.
* Kiwis looks more balanced squad in the list but not a favorite.
* Pakistan is an upgraded and expensive version of Afghanistan and they have almost all the fronts covered, except spin.
* Proteas is good but c'mon it's an ICC tournament and we have seen this movie countless times.







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Ireland's rapid wicket-falling left them all out until the last over, which led to Ireland losing the match by 49 runs. Ireland's batting weakness was most evident in the opening batsman Balbirnie, who was dismissed early, which left the Irish batsmen vulnerable.
 And the most vulnerable were the top-order attacking batsmen, Curtis Campher and Harry Tector, who were both in the game for a long time but failed to make any headway in terms of runs. If they had both scored more than half-centuries, then the victory would have been assured on the batsmen who followed.

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February 15, 2025, 01:29:10 PM
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Ireland's rapid wicket-falling left them all out until the last over, which led to Ireland losing the match by 49 runs. Ireland's batting weakness was most evident in the opening batsman Balbirnie, who was dismissed early, which left the Irish batsmen vulnerable.
 And the most vulnerable were the top-order attacking batsmen, Curtis Campher and Harry Tector, who were both in the game for a long time but failed to make any headway in terms of runs. If they had both scored more than half-centuries, then the victory would have been assured on the batsmen who followed.
The match result you have highlighted here between Ireland and Zimbabwe was actually the first ODI between them. I was almost certain that Ireland would win this match against Zimbabwe, as they also have one of the best batsmen in their team. Actually, I am referring to Ireland's Harry Tector here because this batsman is already ranked number four in the ICC ODI rankings.

Naturally it was easy to assume that he might play well in this match but unfortunately he could not extend his innings in this match. Moreover, Zimbabwe's victory against Ireland in the ODI match after losing the Test match may be a good sign for them. Zimbabwe is still in the lead in terms of winning this series.
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February 15, 2025, 01:36:20 PM
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New Zealand and Pakistan won three consecutive matches on their home ground and became champions. New Zealand's team performance was quite good, especially thanks to Williamson for his captaincy. The New Zealand team had a strong team consisting of batsmen and bowlers, due to which New Zealand scored over 300 runs in every match. Even if Pakistan had scored 300 runs in the final, it would not have been difficult for New Zealand to win.
The Final match of the Tri-Nation Series was played between Pakistan and New Zealand. Fakhar Zaman and Babar Azam played as openers. The audience had a lot of hopes that these players would perform better and let Pakistan win this match, but New Zealand bowler Will O'Rourke created trouble for Pakistan to set a big target. He got 4 wickets in this match. Pakistani batting lineup was destroyed badly by New Zealand bowlers. Pakistan scored just 242 runs as a target. On the other hand, New Zealand opened their batting with Will Young and Devon Conway, a partnership of 53 runs. In this final match, Pakistan bowlers failed to get wickets. Naseem Shah got 2 wickets. New Zealand was in form and chased the target with just a loss of 5 wickets.

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February 15, 2025, 01:43:07 PM
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* Afghanistan is Afghanistan. They will upset everyone on their day and are incredibly capable of bottling up from winning positions.
* Australia looks depleted but these folks are an ICC tourney juggernaut. 
* No hopes for Bangladesh
* England has talent and many match winners in the squad but looks ridiculously out of form unit and spin is their major nemesis.
* India are gambling heavily on spin because they are playing in Dubai, batting is stacked and probably the strongest on the list but the inexperienced seam department is a big worry.
* Kiwis looks more balanced squad in the list but not a favorite.
* Pakistan is an upgraded and expensive version of Afghanistan and they have almost all the fronts covered, except spin.
* Proteas is good but c'mon it's an ICC tournament and we have seen this movie countless times.
Great analysis overall. South Africa could end up surprising everyone while the Kiwis are the frontrunners for the trophy if you ask me. Afghanistan might end up winning against some big favorites, but they won't go all the way.

Pakistan are on a rollercoaster as usual while England are weak as hell. Bangladesh is Bangladesh while India and Australia are the usual favorites.

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February 15, 2025, 02:08:25 PM
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New Zealand and Pakistan won three consecutive matches on their home ground and became champions. New Zealand's team performance was quite good, especially thanks to Williamson for his captaincy. The New Zealand team had a strong team consisting of batsmen and bowlers, due to which New Zealand scored over 300 runs in every match. Even if Pakistan had scored 300 runs in the final, it would not have been difficult for New Zealand to win.
The Final match of the Tri-Nation Series was played between Pakistan and New Zealand. Fakhar Zaman and Babar Azam played as openers. The audience had a lot of hopes that these players would perform better and let Pakistan win this match, but New Zealand bowler Will O'Rourke created trouble for Pakistan to set a big target. He got 4 wickets in this match. Pakistani batting lineup was destroyed badly by New Zealand bowlers. Pakistan scored just 242 runs as a target. On the other hand, New Zealand opened their batting with Will Young and Devon Conway, a partnership of 53 runs. In this final match, Pakistan bowlers failed to get wickets. Naseem Shah got 2 wickets. New Zealand was in form and chased the target with just a loss of 5 wickets.

New Zealand had a loss of an early wicket at the start when Will Youngs was out on 5 but after that loss, New Zealand did not lose any further wickets and faced no problem in chasing this total and becoming the champions.



By the way, tomorrow they will play the warm up match against Afghanistan for Champions Trophy and when we see that New Zealand can bat Pakistan and South Africa multiples times so I don't think they will lose against Afghanistan. Let's see what will happen, although New Zealand is in their such good form and likely to break many records this year as per my prediction  Wink

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New Zealand and Pakistan won three consecutive matches on their home ground and became champions. New Zealand's team performance was quite good, especially thanks to Williamson for his captaincy. The New Zealand team had a strong team consisting of batsmen and bowlers, due to which New Zealand scored over 300 runs in every match. Even if Pakistan had scored 300 runs in the final, it would not have been difficult for New Zealand to win.
The Final match of the Tri-Nation Series was played between Pakistan and New Zealand. Fakhar Zaman and Babar Azam played as openers. The audience had a lot of hopes that these players would perform better and let Pakistan win this match, but New Zealand bowler Will O'Rourke created trouble for Pakistan to set a big target. He got 4 wickets in this match. Pakistani batting lineup was destroyed badly by New Zealand bowlers. Pakistan scored just 242 runs as a target. On the other hand, New Zealand opened their batting with Will Young and Devon Conway, a partnership of 53 runs. In this final match, Pakistan bowlers failed to get wickets. Naseem Shah got 2 wickets. New Zealand was in form and chased the target with just a loss of 5 wickets.
New Zealand is more strong team other than Pakistan and South Africa teams. New Zealand man played a good final match and their performance was very amazing. I hope Pakistan they will play better in the upcoming trophy ICC magges. New Zealand won the all matches. Pakistan play well in the previous match but this time they played very poorly. This time New Zealand players proved themselves by playing a good match. The final match between Pakistan and  New Zealand was held at National Stadium . New Zealand won game by total runs for 243 and wining the match. Pakistan team set a record total 242 runs and lost the match. New Zealand won by 5 wickets and 28 balls . The  best batting performance in New Zealand man team was by Daryl Mitchell  scored 57 runs and 58 balls hitting 6 fours and 0 sixs. Congratulations to New Zealand for their upcoming matches.











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Indeed, in this ODI Tri-Series, New Zealand has proven very well how strong a team they are. Their performance in each match was the best. New Zealand's performance was the best in both bowling and batting. And New Zealand was in great form in their final match as well.

In the final match, Pakistan team was able to score 242 runs in their innings in 49.3 overs, Pakistan team played the match at their best. Mohammad Rizwan could not perform very well in their innings, because he scored only 46 runs in 76 balls, where as a total bolls rate, the number of runs is very low. However, Mohammad Rizwan was the highest scorer of their innings.

New Zealand performed in their innings without any pressure, they continued to play calmly, Daryl Mitchell performed very well, he scored 57 runs in 58 balls, besides every player of New Zealand performed great. They lost a total of 5 wickets, and secured victory by scoring 243 runs in 45.2 overs.

New Zealand's performance in this series was the best, the biggest thing is that Pakistan team lost their home series, which is really bad for them. However, New Zealand is going to do more better in the future.

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Ireland's rapid wicket-falling left them all out until the last over, which led to Ireland losing the match by 49 runs. Ireland's batting weakness was most evident in the opening batsman Balbirnie, who was dismissed early, which left the Irish batsmen vulnerable.
After defeat in test series finally Zimbabwen side able to seek revenge from Irish in first match of ODI series, Zimbabwe wasn't looking strong enough to score such high but surprisingly one of his young opener Brian Bennett done ordinary performance and smashed rest of opponent bowlers and scored a very handsome innings of 150+  and thus through partnership with his captain they put enough number on board. While on the other hand Ireland were on trouble from strat of the innings, as one of thier opener departure with golden duck while rest of thier batter struggle due to phenomenal spell of B. Muzarabani, R. Ngarava and rest of bowlers and even Irish having strong lineup still they unable to match the required. Looking forward to thier upcoming interesting matches

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February 15, 2025, 06:09:58 PM
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Finally New Zealand won this match and the final by 5 wickets. They were the better team and they deserved this win. New Zealand remained unbeaten in this tournament. The next time these two teams will meet again, it will be same ground, same format but a different tournament, yes it will be Champions trophy first match in a few days time.

Pakistan bowlers bowled reasonably well in this match. Naseem Shah took 2 wickets and most of the bowlers took a single wicket but the runs to defend were very few. Abrar Ahmed was too much expensive and he was wicketless in his 10 overs.

Shaheen and Naseem performance in the final game is reasonably well compared to how they have performed in the tournament. This is not a good sign for Pakistan that there main pacers are giving too much runs in tracks where Champions trophy will be played in few days. Kushdil Shah was given once again chance but he failed to take advantage of that. Babar Azam still unable to regain his lost form and is proving to be a liability on the team. In short, things are not looking good for Pakistan just before the Champions trophy.
But despite this, Pakistan has lost this match because their batsmen have not given a big target.  Pakistan has lost this final match at its own home. There were a lot of hopes from Pakistan in this match, but these hopes have been reduced by losing this match.  Pakistan batsmen have scored 242 runs in 50 overs which was very less for New Zealand.  New Zealand batsmen have won this match in 45 overs and also won this tri series.  New Zealand's performance was strong due to which they will win this match.  The runs were not stopped by Pakistan's bowlers, due to which they have lost these matches as well, their bowlers have taken only 5 wickets.

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Indeed, in this ODI Tri-Series, New Zealand has proven very well how strong a team they are. Their performance in each match was the best. New Zealand's performance was the best in both bowling and batting. And New Zealand was in great form in their final match as well.

In the final match, Pakistan team was able to score 242 runs in their innings in 49.3 overs, Pakistan team played the match at their best. Mohammad Rizwan could not perform very well in their innings, because he scored only 46 runs in 76 balls, where as a total bolls rate, the number of runs is very low. However, Mohammad Rizwan was the highest scorer of their innings.

New Zealand performed in their innings without any pressure, they continued to play calmly, Daryl Mitchell performed very well, he scored 57 runs in 58 balls, besides every player of New Zealand performed great. They lost a total of 5 wickets, and secured victory by scoring 243 runs in 45.2 overs.

New Zealand's performance in this series was the best, the biggest thing is that Pakistan team lost their home series, which is really bad for them. However, New Zealand is going to do more better in the future.

New Zealand is no doubt a strong team like South Africa but there dilemma is that both teams fail to perform in ICC tournaments. New Zealand so far has won only one mega event and that is ICC knockout tournament in 2000. Likewise South Africa is so good in bilateral series but they were not able to win any ICC event so far. It's time for both these teams to start performing well when it matters the most.

New Zealand has beaten Pakistan quite easily in the final and that tells how well both teams are prepared for upcoming ICC champions trophy. When there are players in the team like Faheem Ashraf and Kushdil shah along with Babar Azam then such results are very much expected.  

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Indeed, in this ODI Tri-Series, New Zealand has proven very well how strong a team they are. Their performance in each match was the best. New Zealand's performance was the best in both bowling and batting. And New Zealand was in great form in their final match as well.

In the final match, Pakistan team was able to score 242 runs in their innings in 49.3 overs, Pakistan team played the match at their best. Mohammad Rizwan could not perform very well in their innings, because he scored only 46 runs in 76 balls, where as a total bolls rate, the number of runs is very low. However, Mohammad Rizwan was the highest scorer of their innings.

New Zealand performed in their innings without any pressure, they continued to play calmly, Daryl Mitchell performed very well, he scored 57 runs in 58 balls, besides every player of New Zealand performed great. They lost a total of 5 wickets, and secured victory by scoring 243 runs in 45.2 overs.

New Zealand's performance in this series was the best, the biggest thing is that Pakistan team lost their home series, which is really bad for them. However, New Zealand is going to do more better in the future.
If we talk about the overall series, New Zealand has played very well against Pakistan, that's why they have been able to win this tri-series. In the first match of tri series the New Zealand batsmen have performed brilliantly. Gillian Phillips' century gave New Zealand the lead in the first match and the New Zealand team took that confidence to win the tri-series final against South Africa and Pakistan in the next matches. Salman Ali Agha scored a deep-dive for Pakistan scoring his maiden hundred and great performance in the overall series will be very good but Pakistan face difficult in batting order. Champion Trophy is about to start, Babar Azam should not play open, Babar Azam should play in middle order if Pakistan want to win matches.











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February 15, 2025, 08:34:37 PM
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New Zealand and Pakistan won three consecutive matches on their home ground and became champions. New Zealand's team performance was quite good, especially thanks to Williamson for his captaincy. The New Zealand team had a strong team consisting of batsmen and bowlers, due to which New Zealand scored over 300 runs in every match. Even if Pakistan had scored 300 runs in the final, it would not have been difficult for New Zealand to win.
The Final match of the Tri-Nation Series was played between Pakistan and New Zealand. Fakhar Zaman and Babar Azam played as openers. The audience had a lot of hopes that these players would perform better and let Pakistan win this match, but New Zealand bowler Will O'Rourke created trouble for Pakistan to set a big target. He got 4 wickets in this match. Pakistani batting lineup was destroyed badly by New Zealand bowlers. Pakistan scored just 242 runs as a target. On the other hand, New Zealand opened their batting with Will Young and Devon Conway, a partnership of 53 runs. In this final match, Pakistan bowlers failed to get wickets. Naseem Shah got 2 wickets. New Zealand was in form and chased the target with just a loss of 5 wickets.
If Rizwan cannot play in Pakistan cricket then there is no chance of winning that match. This situation has been created in most of the cases. Everyone is equally responsible for winning but they failed to fulfill that responsibility properly and therefore they lost the matches. Rizwan batted and scored 46. But after that no one could fill his place.

If Fakhar Zaman and Babar Azam could have made a good partnership then there was a possibility of a big score in that match but it did not happen. The one we will rely on the most in the final match did not play the way that is why the team did not win against New Zealand. However, we expect good performance from them in the Champions League.

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If Rizwan cannot play in Pakistan cricket then there is no chance of winning that match. This situation has been created in most of the cases. Everyone is equally responsible for winning but they failed to fulfill that responsibility properly and therefore they lost the matches. Rizwan batted and scored 46. But after that no one could fill his place.

If Fakhar Zaman and Babar Azam could have made a good partnership then there was a possibility of a big score in that match but it did not happen. The one we will rely on the most in the final match did not play the way that is why the team did not win against New Zealand. However, we expect good performance from them in the Champions League.
I agree with you because the Pakistan team has become dependent on the performances of Muhammad Rizwan and Salman Ali Agha. Pakistan team will miss Sam Ayub in the Champions League because the opening of Sam Ayub and Fakhar Zaman would have been a powerful opening in the Champions League, but saim Ayub injury changed the momentum of the Pakistani team. Mohammad Rizwan and Salman Ali Agha helped Pakistan a lot with a record run chase against South Africa. Salman Ali Agha is awarded Player of the Series for scoring the most runs in the series. Now let's see if Salman Ali Agha can continue this form in the Champions League or not. Babar Azam and Fakhar Zaman are very important if Pakistan wants to win this Champions Trophy

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February 16, 2025, 12:52:28 AM
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If Rizwan cannot play in Pakistan cricket then there is no chance of winning that match. This situation has been created in most of the cases. Everyone is equally responsible for winning but they failed to fulfill that responsibility properly and therefore they lost the matches. Rizwan batted and scored 46. But after that no one could fill his place.

If Fakhar Zaman and Babar Azam could have made a good partnership then there was a possibility of a big score in that match but it did not happen. The one we will rely on the most in the final match did not play the way that is why the team did not win against New Zealand. However, we expect good performance from them in the Champions League.
Pakistan's cricket team relies too much on Rizwan. It is true that he is very important player but we should also remember that cricket is team game. It is not just Rizwan job to win match. Other players like Fakhar Zaman and Babar Azam need to play well and help team succeed too. It is sad that they could not keep going after Rizwan played well and make strong partnership. Hopefully they will learn from what happened and play better in Champions League. Team will only do well if everyone works together and I am looking forward to seeing them do better in upcoming league.

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February 16, 2025, 02:10:53 AM
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New Zealand is no doubt a strong team like South Africa but there dilemma is that both teams fail to perform in ICC tournaments. New Zealand so far has won only one mega event and that is ICC knockout tournament in 2000. Likewise South Africa is so good in bilateral series but they were not able to win any ICC event so far. It's time for both these teams to start performing well when it matters the most.

New Zealand has beaten Pakistan quite easily in the final and that tells how well both teams are prepared for upcoming ICC champions trophy. When there are players in the team like Faheem Ashraf and Kushdil shah along with Babar Azam then such results are very much expected.  
New Zealand and South Africa are really strong teams but they have not done well in big ICC tournaments. It is surprising that New Zealand has only won one big tournament ICC Knockout Tournament in 2000 even though they usually play well in matches against other countries. South Africa is similar also. But New Zealand just beat Pakistan in final which is good sign and Pakistan has talented players like Faheem Ashraf Kushdil Shah and Babar Azam so it is likely they will play well. Upcoming ICC Champions Trophy is big chance for New Zealand and South Africa to finally do well in big ICC tournament and show everyone how good they are.

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Final squads are out for every team and few things to note

- Big names are missing out (mainly seamers)
- The batting core is intact for almost every team except Australia because it's going into a transition phase.

* Afghanistan is Afghanistan. They will upset everyone on their day and are incredibly capable of bottling up from winning positions.
* Australia looks depleted but these folks are an ICC tourney juggernaut.  
* No hopes for Bangladesh
* England has talent and many match winners in the squad but looks ridiculously out of form unit and spin is their major nemesis.
* India are gambling heavily on spin because they are playing in Dubai, batting is stacked and probably the strongest on the list but the inexperienced seam department is a big worry.
* Kiwis looks more balanced squad in the list but not a favorite.
* Pakistan is an upgraded and expensive version of Afghanistan and they have almost all the fronts covered, except spin.
* Proteas is good but c'mon it's an ICC tournament and we have seen this movie countless times.
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It has to be either India or Australia. And given the history in ICC tournaments so far, I would rather favor Australia. Steve Smith as the captain has his task cut out. But they are missing most of their strike bowlers. Pace bowling department will be lead by Spencer Johnson, with Sean Abbott and Ben Dwarshuis to support him. Nathan Ellis maybe included in the XI as well. For spin, they have the young and raw Tanveer Sangha to provide backup for Adam Zampa. And in spin-friendly conditions in Pakistan, Travis Head may also be handy.

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But despite this, Pakistan has lost this match because their batsmen have not given a big target.  Pakistan has lost this final match at its own home. There were a lot of hopes from Pakistan in this match, but these hopes have been reduced by losing this match.

Hopes with Pakistan, I don't think so  Huh  Pakistan were considered as the weakest team and before the match between Pakistan and South Africa, it was South Africa who were favorite to win but somehow miracle happened and the Pakistan batsmen played too well that we developed hopes with them for the final match too. But nothing of that similar sort of performance was witnessed at the final match. Pakistan team have some of the good players but they rarely play as a team together and I think this lack of consistency will hurt them in the upcoming champions trophy too.

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