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July 26, 2019, 11:11:23 PM
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I just felt I should do a flash back on projects that cheated on bountyhunters or refused to pay for work done and do a recap on how they fared afterwards. There are many of such projects ,you can add to the lists.
Kora Network
Led by Dickson Nsofor and Maomao Daniel Hu

Raised 12 Million USD with the help of bounty hunters

Then refused to pay for several months,ignored bounty manager until an anti-campaign was started, only then paid a tiny fraction of work done.
Current Market cap 43000 USD




Loss to investors -99.64 %

Nothing substantial in terms of project implementation (other than listing on some small exchange-one of which is no more)
Team probably dumped their own tokens and walked away with over 10Million USD. That to me is a form of scam.
How a project treats bounty hunters/managers tells a lot about their integrity and can serve as a red flag to investor. Nothing can be achieved long term when integrity is lacking in a project team.

What projects you now that followed same pattern, please indicate.

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July 27, 2019, 02:08:34 AM
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Adab is one of this after almost a year they refused to pay the bounty hunters, there are already three scam reports on this scam project

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168193.0

they keep saying the same thing after their bounty hunters finish the KYC there is still no announcement of the distribution
and I doubt if there will be one, investors should ignore this token, they will do an exit scam that's for sure.

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July 27, 2019, 02:19:52 AM
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I'm sure they have ANN page on this forum why can't you guys raise flag about this issue?the more many bounty hunters raise red flag the more they will feel the heat,this is scam

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July 27, 2019, 02:30:48 AM
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If I can remember correctly this is a big issue in crypto space ive help promote few bounties that never paid till date and they are on CMC with very good volume,for example x-block project

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July 27, 2019, 02:50:50 AM
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Yea desico did the same thing and after almost a year of ignoring bounty hunters they decide to pay 10% from 100% bounty allocation and all I get on spreadsheet is around 10$ so i just leave and move on,bounty hunters needs to start taking actions on these projects, our silent won't change anything.
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July 27, 2019, 03:05:13 AM
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There are actually a whole lot of them. Others have their own schemes to just shirk responsibility from the people who help them reach whatever success they have. Some are devising disagreeable set-up for their own advantage even if disadvantageous to their marketers. If they fail, it is largely due to their being dishonest. If they are dishonest to their own bounty participants, they could be dishonest to others. Perfect recipe for failure.
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July 27, 2019, 03:44:34 AM
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You must not promote a project which isn't managed by a reputed and responsible bounty manager. Hhampuz and Yahoo are two persons who always think of getting paid their bounty participants. They care about their image, reputation unlike other stupid managers.

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July 27, 2019, 04:23:02 AM
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I participated in the project Kora when they were on bountyhave and I remember how they didn’t want to pay employees. Until users started report spam they didn’t even want to pay, and paid crumbs. And the price was already small and not needed by anyone.
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July 27, 2019, 04:24:12 AM
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This is why bounty managers matter most times,no matter what happened they will make sure that bounty hunters get paid as they are promised,i think its all on bounty manager

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July 27, 2019, 04:29:46 AM
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There are many projects that did the same too and they are too many to enumerate it here. Even me as a bounty hunter has experienced the same things as other bounty hunters has experienced.

You must not promote a project which isn't managed by a reputed and responsible bounty manager. Hhampuz and Yahoo are two persons who always think of getting paid their bounty participants. They care about their image, reputation unlike other stupid managers.
Yes those 2 campaign managers are reputable here but even they managed to pay the bounty hunters, it doesn't mean that it will be a successful project already. They can pay the tokens to the hunters but there is no value on it because the team can abandon it anytime with the money.

 
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July 27, 2019, 04:30:14 AM
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Well, of course they won't be successful if they can't even get their marketing straight.
Never forget, that's what bounties are: marketing.
It's such a crucial part of any startup in any market and if they can't handle doing it, then they won't be able to be successful.

One of the most important things you can do as a bounty hunter, which no bounty hunter ever does, is take a look at the smart contract.
The smart contract should have been audited and match what is written in their white paper.
Don't know how to read a smart contract on github?
Then start networking and find some techie friends to do it for you and start investing together.
AT this point, with so much information on how to avoid scams, I am starting to have no remorse for those that still get scammed with obviously bad projects.

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July 27, 2019, 04:55:42 AM
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Adab is one of this after almost a year they refused to pay the bounty hunters, there are already three scam reports on this scam project

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168193.0

they keep saying the same thing after their bounty hunters finish the KYC there is still no announcement of the distribution
and I doubt if there will be one, investors should ignore this token, they will do an exit scam that's for sure.
really? it is unfortunate considering that the project is very good and attention to the adab project at the beginning of their launch was very large. if they are really scams, it will only destroy their image, they should be fair.
It's true, joolly is a good guy and he can be trusted, any ico that listed on this signature were scam.
The idea of adab doesn't make sense from the start and that's a bit scam. I hope that bitforex will try to delist that scam coin.



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July 27, 2019, 10:22:34 PM
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Refusing to pay bounty hunters after months of promoting your project can be the worst decision any project manager or project team may decide to do. Why ignore an individual of his or her salary after working for you. I think and second the idea of tagging projects which refuse payment to hunters with red flag as this will bring down their reputation and make them know what the effect of cheating hunters.

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July 28, 2019, 01:01:30 AM
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I used to be so active in ICO bounty hunting and I will definitely be going to support any flag that anybody will raise against bounty campaign that refuses, lock or even delays payment to its bounty hunters, it's a long month of hard work and waiting for them to do that.

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July 28, 2019, 10:36:52 AM
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This project lists their bounty campaign on Bountyhive. it's been a long time since this bounty ends.
I follow their bounty but leave it because of the delay of the paying of bounty, I don't think about it anymore.

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July 28, 2019, 10:40:44 AM
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Hunters deserve to received their pay at a given time by the team or else if there's a situation like this for sure it can be a scam or  better to ask the team to explain for the delay. If you raised a flag for any bounty thread make sure you have your good reason, and because of that many hunters will support that flag. Its not good for a project to ruin the trust of the hunters, they can't just collect money without us after all.
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July 28, 2019, 10:41:07 AM
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Adab is one of this after almost a year they refused to pay the bounty hunters, there are already three scam reports on this scam project

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168193.0

they keep saying the same thing after their bounty hunters finish the KYC there is still no announcement of the distribution
and I doubt if there will be one, investors should ignore this token, they will do an exit scam that's for sure.
Yes, this project is suck. I did bounty for them, and after 1-year bounty, they reduced pool paid me just 30% of my allocation  Angry A red flag for them, and ADAB price is dumped 50%, that mean we get few dollars for a year promoting this.  Angry Angry
All project like KNT, ADAB or other must be received a serious red flag.
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July 28, 2019, 10:43:52 AM
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It's a wicked action not to pay bounty hunters after they had done their duties if they have a bitcoin talk account they may get bad tag for that.
What initial coin offering does is send out little of their token knowing it will be of no good to bounty hunters just not to let their coin from getting dumped
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July 28, 2019, 12:12:58 PM
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If you check the Bitcointalk  today you can see that there was many of these so called bounty campaigns are still running. But after the campaign ends they will not pay its obligation to the bounty hunters the worst is they required too many chitchat and lots of alibis or even locking the tokens for the whole year. thats insane i think thats why bounty hunters should vigilant about these new norms setting by the team. thats why the terms and condition is worth to read. if you didnt agree with it its very simple dont join that campaign. choose a better bounty management that fight the bounty hunters right and not just the team own interest.
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July 28, 2019, 04:37:42 PM
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I think in last few months there were a lot of projects that never paid bounty hunters i do follow a lot of threads in this forum and telegram channels regarding such issues, to name a few the peojects that never paid bounty hunters are Athero, securix, swiss alps mining, winbix, envion and many more, recently, bitbond sto has also been reported recently to not pay bounty hunters after completing the campaigns and now making lame excuses to not pay hunters, i think we should atleast name and shame such unethical things from these so called projects.

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