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Author Topic: [2019-07-27] US Prosecutors Indict BTC-e Crypto Exchange, Seek $100 million  (Read 341 times)
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July 31, 2019, 04:50:38 PM
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Now coming to the money laundering part, the FBI claims that Vinnik laundered most of the stolen coins (2011-13) through BTC-e codes. So any user who hasn't dealt with those codes should not have any dirty coins in their wallets.

i don't follow your logic. if "dirty coins" were deposited into BTC-E's wallet and traded for codes, any user withdrawing from BTC-E could have ended up with some of those dirty coins. customers have some plausible deniability though, since they could have been legitimately using them as an exchange. traders were doing nothing illegal.

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August 01, 2019, 02:13:27 AM
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even if it were true, there's clear favoritism going on: several banks have been caught violating money-laundering legislation over the years, and many more have likely got away with it.

And yet those banks are considered "institutional", and are given an incredibly light touch punishment. Fines they can easily afford, and no individuals are held responsible, regardless of how brazen the violations were.

It's the equivalent of not bringing a letter from your parents to miss gym class, but instead of afternoon detention, detention for the entire rest of your life. With murderers. As I was saying, who do these people think they are to behave like this?

They're being given light punishment precisely because they're big enough to be institutional and carry enough clout to be protected from being taken down. It will be an interesting day if Coinbase or a similar major cryptocurrency company ever grows to comparable size and influence of legacy financial institutions, and how things are going to be handled when they are caught committing similar misdeeds.

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August 01, 2019, 02:50:32 AM
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Also, give them a heavy punishment and those politicians who did it or those under those institution's influence not protecting them can say goodbye to their campaign funding hehehe. Corruption is real.

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August 01, 2019, 04:12:25 AM
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Maybe I'm being very ignorant here, but let's go:

Does anyone create exchange (in this case BTC-e). Because the owner of BTC-e was not constantly forbidding US citizens from using their exchange, will this owner of BTC-e be arrested? Shouldn't it be US citizens' responsibility not to use exchanges that are not regulated in their country?

How can the US government prove that BTC-e owners have forced US citizens to use their exchange?

And about Bank Secrecy Act, that's US law, right? BTC-e wasn't based in Russia? Why is USA meddling in the lives of people in other countries?

We all know that if it were a bank, the most that would happen would be to pay a light fine

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August 01, 2019, 05:04:17 AM
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They accepted fiat money without doing adequate KYC for years, that's enough to cause them trouble. They accepted USA residents or citizens and dealt with USD, that's another thing. In 2017 they at least blocked Americans from using their exchange (or at least prevented them from sending/receiving fiat money, don't remember now), but that was too late. Vinnik cashing goxbtc and other stolen monies was probably the main thing that did them in.

Difficult to say if BTC-e was based in a singular, it's easier to list countries the business and employees were associated with: UK, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Russia (not sure about Ukraine). At least some of their IT infrastructure was in the US.

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