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August 04, 2019, 04:09:34 PM
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sorry for this strange question.
I want to know if there is a way to creat account It can not be Send or Receive merit?..
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August 04, 2019, 04:11:25 PM
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I want to know if there is a way to creat account It can not be Send or Receive merit?..
Yes. It's called a bounty hunter account.

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August 04, 2019, 04:12:55 PM
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sorry for this strange question.
I want to know if there is a way to creat account It can not be Send or Receive merit?..

What do you mean?
You want to be newbie forever?  Grin

That would be your destiny if you dont have merit system,
as you need 1 merit to be Junior member + forum activity

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August 04, 2019, 04:20:02 PM
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Yes. It's called a bounty hunter account.
LOL.  They certainly won't earn any merits with the garbage they spew, but their accounts are fully able to get and receive them from any other means.

OP, I'm curious as to why you're asking this.  The answer is no, there's not an option to have an account with merits disabled but I'm not sure why in the world you'd want something like that.

Maybe only @theymos can grant you this wish
That's the only way I can see it happening, and who knows, Theymos might actually do it.  Seems pretty silly to me, though.

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August 04, 2019, 04:29:43 PM
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Yes. It's called a bounty hunter account.
LOL.  They certainly won't earn any merits with the garbage they spew, but their accounts are fully able to get and receive them from any other means.
Lol, you may visit some of the merit abusing thread to find out those posts also get merit, not sure what you meant by earn though. Lots of people were abusing the system although recently it is decreased.

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August 04, 2019, 04:34:22 PM
Last edit: August 04, 2019, 04:44:43 PM by YOSHIE
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not be Send or Receive merit?..
@ omer-jamal, what's wrong with you today, not as usual in creating topics.
Are you frustrated, bored, or is something annoying about Merit.

There is no @ omer-jamal yet, the rules in this bitcointalk forum are newcomers who cannot receive or send sMerit.

Relax @ omer-jamal, relax just live what has been set,

You DT, this question you shouldn't ask, self-esteem @omer-jamal.

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August 04, 2019, 08:19:41 PM
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You may be the very first person to ever ask that question. It is strange to see someone request for it when majority of the forum users wants to get merits. Care to share what's going through your mind for asking anti-merit account?
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August 04, 2019, 08:26:59 PM
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Simple answer is no- at least not within the current forum set up, Why are the justifications for such account? Sending merits is already something optional and there is already a way to curb abuse of merits
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August 04, 2019, 09:31:13 PM
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sorry for this strange question.
I want to know if there is a way to creat account It can not be Send or Receive merit?..
Locked and perman-banned accounts still be able to received merits, that are what I saw, but I don't know what will happen with nuked accounts. However, I guess nuked accounts are also able to received accounts. They all likely are unable to send their sMerits.

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August 05, 2019, 12:47:59 AM
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sorry for this strange question.
I want to know if there is a way to creat account It can not be Send or Receive merit?..

Actually there is a way to do it. Just don't create an account.
It meets your requirements. You cannot send or receive merit points then.
It is the most anti-merit thing you can possibly do.

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August 05, 2019, 03:02:21 AM
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You can just not create any posts. This is the only way to guarantee you will not receive merit.
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August 05, 2019, 04:39:19 AM
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sorry for this strange question.
I want to know if there is a way to creat account It can not be Send or Receive merit?..
Locked and perman-banned accounts still be able to received merits, that are what I saw, but I don't know what will happen with nuked accounts. However, I guess nuked accounts are also able to received accounts. They all likely are unable to send their sMerits.

I believe OP is referring to useable accounts but these accounts status you're referring to aren't useable. OP you might try your chances by sending a PM to theymos requesting for that restriction on your account. I'm positive you guys can work something out if he responds to your message. I'm just as curious as the others, why on earth who someone not want to recieved merit (or are you asking your question, just for asking seek). Even those who claims to not be interested in the system still fancy getting merited and sends smerits when they feel like.

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August 05, 2019, 04:42:26 AM
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I guess to do it is put a text on your text profile or on your signature that you probably don't want any merit to be received. That way I guess people will never give you a single merit, though it isn't a 100% that you will not get it, still there's possibility if you will explain it fully that you didn't really want it.
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August 05, 2019, 04:54:33 AM
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@OP, can you give us some good reason to why that certain question ever crossed on your mind?

This question is actually quite funny lol. It gets worse if somebody will ask the same thoughts but on the trust system. (an account that is anti- trust?) and guess they might follow the idea of contacting theymos for that
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This text is what I get after clicking on Merit button:
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You have received a total of xxx merit. This is what determines your forum rank. You typically cannot lose this merit. You have yyy sendable merit (sMerit) which you can send to other people. There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you, and we reserve the right to decay unused sMerit in the future.
The Italic part let me know that there is no way to create such account.
- Merits do not dissappear/ lose.
- Users can not prevent merits come to them.
Overtime, if someone can build up a Merit-FireWall, OP can create account he wanted; but I highly doubt that admin will not accept Merit Firewall and will not let it funtionally operates in the forum.

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I want to know if there is a way to creat account It can not be Send or Receive merit?..
@theymos can do it but you need a convincing reason to convince him to do it.
Until then, if the Merit system causes you trouble, you can request a user script to completely hide it. "This update will only be associated with your account."
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sorry for this strange question.
I want to know if there is a way to creat account It can not be Send or Receive merit?..

Great question I gave you 2 merits for it.  This means you can give someone a merit.

The best way to destroy your give away merits is to send them to a banned account.

On a variation of this idea. Rather then a merit ban how about a 30 day signature ban.

No signatures for anyone for 30 days. Then see what it does to forum traffic.

After 30 days allow signatures to return.

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Just give you sMerits to Theymos if you don't want to support the system.  I think it would be a shame though. You can always keep your sMerits, and use them to encourage posters that you think are beneficial to the forum.

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August 05, 2019, 10:24:20 PM
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Just please tell us, why? Because it's very strange question and I can't understand why do you need that.
It's not possible to do that, well maybe theymos can do this personally just for your account, but I doubt he is going to do that. So, you can do some things yourself. If you don't want to receive merits, just put big red letters on your signature "Don't give me merits". And you should just don't send any of your sMerits to anyone.

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not be Send or Receive merit?..
@ omer-jamal, what's wrong with you today, not as usual in creating topics.
Are you frustrated, bored, or is something annoying about Merit.

There is no @ omer-jamal yet, the rules in this bitcointalk forum are newcomers who cannot receive or send sMerit.

Relax @ omer-jamal, relax just live what has been set,

You DT, this question you shouldn't ask, self-esteem @omer-jamal.

Someone ask a simple question least you can do is respond with something reasonable (if you can) instead of lashing out like someone upset you, maybe he has a reason for asking, you never know this question you think sounds odd may be someone else inspiration, take it a notch down, just so you know, being a DT don't make you a super human, you are still made of flesh and blood Undecided
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August 07, 2019, 04:02:20 PM
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sorry for this strange question.
I want to know if there is a way to creat account It can not be Send or Receive merit?..
The only way to do so is not to post anything ever relevant, that way you'll never earn merits, and would never have Smerits to send out.

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August 07, 2019, 08:59:13 PM
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sorry for this strange question.
I want to know if there is a way to creat account It can not be Send or Receive merit?..
Locked and perman-banned accounts still be able to received merits, that are what I saw, but I don't know what will happen with nuked accounts. However, I guess nuked accounts are also able to received accounts. They all likely are unable to send their sMerits.

I believe OP is referring to useable accounts but these accounts status you're referring to aren't useable. OP you might try your chances by sending a PM to theymos requesting for that restriction on your account. I'm positive you guys can work something out if he responds to your message. I'm just as curious as the others, why on earth who someone not want to recieved merit (or are you asking your question, just for asking seek). Even those who claims to not be interested in the system still fancy getting merited and sends smerits when they feel like.
What are you doing Sir? Please don't encourage random members in the meta section to bother Theymos and the administrators with this kind of eccentric requests. We are 2,6 million registered users here and there are 20 000 new accounts every month...  so please be careful with that. If omer-jamal doesn't want merits he could mention it in his signature or in his Personal Text but Theymos and the administrators don't owe him anything for that.

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Well @Saint-loup, I don't understand how you interpreted my message but you should understand the very moment any individual take on a public office, he/she have made themselves accessable to the public and that's what theymos did when he took over adminstration of the forum. Putting a don't merit me sign up there only attracts attention to yourself. Some forum members might even consider it an indirectly attempt to beg for merit. If you want something skip the middle man and go to the source especially when they can't do anything possible to help you (that's my principle). @Theymos isn't complaining (atleast to my knowledge). If you send him a PM and he responds, possiblity are he's interested in what you have to say that's why I indicated in my earlier post, (if he responds to your message)

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Well @Saint-loup, I don't understand how you interpreted my message but you should understand the very moment any individual take on a public office, he/she have made themselves accessable to the public and that's what theymos did when he took over adminstration of the forum. Putting a don't merit me sign up there only attracts attention to yourself. Some forum members might even consider it an indirectly attempt to beg for merit. If you want something skip the middle man and go to the source especially when they can't do anything possible to help you (that's my principle). @Theymos isn't complaining (atleast to my knowledge). If you send him a PM and he responds, possiblity are he's interested in what you have to say that's why I indicated in my earlier post, (if he responds to your message)
So you really think administrators have time for this kind of whims, you are serious in fact?  Huh
What would the forum look like if 1 million members were asking a special feature for their own account? Do you realize that?
Leave them alone LMAO  Cheesy

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So you really think administrators have time for this kind of whims, you are serious in fact?  Huh
What would the forum look like if 1 million members were asking a special feature for their own account? Do you realize that?

But are those 1 million users you speak off requesting for these special features, i guess not. The few requesting shouldn't be denied the privilege to try, i only directed him to the right source, him bringing the discussion to the community won't do him any good in regards to his request been granted or rejected. I ask again have the administrator complain of getting tired of answering questions from the forum members? If they have them it's quite time for a support center. They're here to serve us It's their responsibility, is just like you telling me to stop reporting post because moderators are getting tired of reviewing them  Grin. I only gave a reasonable suggestion you don't have to make a big deal out of it to bring about a discussion (argument). Goodbye.

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Forking the forum, and creating a personalized forum (like in medicine, we have personalized medicine). In 2018, when merit system appeared, there were lots of warnings if admin would have not changed it, or stopped using it, users would have made forum hardforks, in order to have the version of forum without merit system. By now, I have not seen such forked forums yet.

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So you really think administrators have time for this kind of whims, you are serious in fact?  Huh
What would the forum look like if 1 million members were asking a special feature for their own account? Do you realize that?

But are those 1 million users you speak off requesting for these special features, i guess not. The few requesting shouldn't be denied the privilege to try, i only directed him to the right source, him bringing the discussion to the community won't do him any good in regards to his request been granted or rejected. I ask again have the administrator complain of getting tired of answering questions from the forum members? If they have them it's quite time for a support center. They're here to serve us, is just like you telling me to stop reporting post because moderators are getting tired of reviewing them  Grin. I only gave a reasonable suggestion you don't have to make a big deal out of it to bring about a discussion (argument). Goodbye.
No I don't think they are here to serve you, they don't owe you anything and you have not any entitlement for this kind of personal request. If you don't like the forum how it is you are free to go elsewhere, it's not the purpose of the forum to satisfy your whims. Thankfully there isn't 1 million user like you, but if you encourage this behavior here, there will be thousands for sure.

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But are those 1 million users you speak off requesting for these special features, i guess not. The few requesting shouldn't be denied the privilege to try, i only directed him to the right source, him bringing the discussion to the community won't do him any good in regards to his request been granted or rejected. I ask again have the administrator complain of getting tired of answering questions from the forum members? If they have them it's quite time for a support center. They're here to serve us, is just like you telling me to stop reporting post because moderators are getting tired of reviewing them  Grin. I only gave a reasonable suggestion you don't have to make a big deal out of it to bring about a discussion (argument). Goodbye.
Everybody here is ready to serve you, not just the administration

It's too bad to read this opinion from a self-made high ranked account. The administration may help you solve problems with Access and Use of your account like recovering accounts or lock/Unlock accounts, as they are already busy with reported posts and other stuffs. Do you really think I can contact theymos to hide my username and that he has to serve me?
Saint Loup didn't interpreted your message wrong, please don't encourage users doing stupid things, the forum has a fixed set-up and the administration is here to keep it running.
Features can be publicly discussed but don't expect them to be set for just one user.

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I think you have a large imagination to think about this strange question. You can use the forum without even a registration, Just ignore the system. Solved!

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Forking the forum, and creating a personalized forum (like in medicine, we have personalized medicine). In 2018, when merit system appeared, there were lots of warnings if admin would have not changed it, or stopped using it, users would have made forum hardforks, in order to have the version of forum without merit system. By now, I have not seen such forked forums yet.

This would be very difficult for anyone to achieve unless they already have a big following. Besides that anyone who cares about the forum will see that the merit system is beneficial to the forum as a whole, and has only a few minor issues with it. There's been other forums that have branched out, and tried to compete with Bitcointalk, but consider the history of Bitcointalk, and how its generally run none of them are even close to what this forum is. theymos generally does a good job in allowing free speech, and not being bias towards users.
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This would be very difficult for anyone to achieve unless they already have a big following. Besides that anyone who cares about the forum will see that the merit system is beneficial to the forum as a whole, and has only a few minor issues with it. There's been other forums that have branched out, and tried to compete with Bitcointalk, but consider the history of Bitcointalk, and how its generally run none of them are even close to what this forum is. theymos generally does a good job in allowing free speech, and not being bias towards users.
I understood what you implied, because I am one of witnesses of the switch from second phase of rank system to the third phase of rank system with merits involvements. History of bitcointalk.org's rank system
I am on the way to Hero Member rank. Within less than 2 years from register day
There are 15 Old-era-Newbies already ranked up to Hero Members (based on a table that given by DdmrDdmr, and I am one of them; it is certainly that more guys like me to come.
Theymos actually did a great initiative for the forum. Let's imagine what happened if the forum would not have had merit system since Jan. 2018? Thousands or hundreds of thousands shitposters would have ranked up to Hero Members; and they are powerful spammers; kind of Hero spammers.
Plagiabot and its consequently massive temp-bans are other things contribute to clean up the forum, beyond merit system.

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