Jammu & Kashmir Special Status (Article 370) Ends!!

[erikalui]

^Nobody requested the kings of J&K while they themselves asked India for help when Pakistan wanted to capture it and J&K was a princely state already under the British. Read this

India was already a country before the British rule and it was just made independent in 1947. It was not born in 1947 while Pakistan was born on that day.

[playboy654]

India was already a country before the British rule and it was just made independent in 1947.

Read it again,"India was born after british started to rule" meant it happened on 18th century and they combination of 250 districts all over India and they named it as British India.

[saraschoudhary]

^ Who killed the people when they got beaf meat at their home?

It was a mob which worshiped cows and felt wronged by the way the other community treated the beliefs of the majority community. We have worked our ways of living to accommodate the religious beliefs of every minority that has walked these lands be it the Muslims, Parsis, Christians, Buddhists and others. It is the only country where you would find such a plethora of minority flourishing in complete harmony and it is only because of our beliefs taught in our religion. All we demand is for people of the minority to respect our beliefs and follow the laws of the land. And when justice is denied to these people for a very long time, they take up arms to quell the thirst for justice. I don't agree for vigilantism but when justice is denied to people for a very long time they are bound to take arms. Our freedom fighters where once mobs of vigils who took up arms to give themselves justice. History judges them to be heros because they emerged as victors. Remember that history is always written by those who emerge victorious.

You can travel from India in any direction upto 4000 kms and you would not find a single country where minorities have been treated with respect. People have been persecuted and killed just because of their religious beliefs. You should be thankful and appreciative of the fact that you have been born in a country where a Hindu majority is so accepting of the minority.

Don't confuse yourself with India and Hinduism,Hindu religion is one of the most ancient religion but India country born only after British starts to rule.

So you know there were some countries in India never occupied by English? They were joined into India after India got independence in 1947 when leaders requested the kings of that independent countries!

Looks like you didn't study history. Ever heard of the Mauryas, Guptas, Kushans, Marathas, Cholas, Harsha empire? The united territory spread from the modern day Kabul (Afganistan) to the Southern coastlines. The Cholas even ruled the Indonesia and other South east countries. Hinduism was main religion in Indonesia in history. The concept of a nation is not born, rather it is an idea that brings people of similar beliefs, challenges and goals together. It is not as if the concept of Bharat was born 1947. India was an advanced civilization that was at a stage of decay because of the infighting between the local people (kings and chieftians) because of the corruption of the idea of society. All that was needed was a strategic player to unite them and this is what had happened at a very later stage of Aurangzeb rule before the Britishers took over. The Marathas united the entire India under a single flag of Hindu consciousness and controlled the majority of India. Though they didnt call it India but we were still a single unit. So the concept of a untied heartland is not something that is new.

[playboy654]

Answer for the first portion can be found on the second one you mentioned.So you really agree that India is a country created by many empires over centuries but now Ruling part says one country one religion one language and one aadhar card.So disguising.

[erikalui]

^Religion was the trump card for the ruling party that made them win just like what US President did and won.

[saraschoudhary]

So you really agree that India is a country created by many empires over centuries but now Ruling part says one country one religion one language and one aadhar card.So disguising.

Can you show me anything even remotely close to the government saying that we will have one religion, one language?? If not then you may shut up.

[playboy654]

So you really agree that India is a country created by many empires over centuries but now Ruling part says one country one religion one language and one aadhar card.So disguising.

Can you show me anything even remotely close to the government saying that we will have one religion, one language?? If not then you may shut up.

They do,if you don't know about it then go and vist south India where is the only place people opposed Hindi as their main language even second language.

[playboy654]

So you really agree that India is a country created by many empires over centuries but now Ruling part says one country one religion one language and one aadhar card.So disguising.

Can you show me anything even remotely close to the government saying that we will have one religion, one language?? If not then you may shut up.

They do,if you don't know about it then go and vist south India where is the only place people opposed Hindi as their main language even second language.

Careful and steady start from Windies's openers. they are standing strong at 45 runs, Lewis looking very good so far.

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Gayle gone now, final ODI appearance for Gayle i suppose if he gets retire on his 300th ODI match today. He failed to score big run today but he's now Most run (10349) scorer for Windies

Ohh no,you are in wrong place bro.

[JSRAW]

Oh shoot!!!

Was using phone and messed it up with the pages

[Bitlover10]

The entire scenario can be beautifully summarized by these lines:

द्वन्द कहा तक पाला जाये,

~

मस्जिद तलक उजाला जाये||


P.S. Not my poem. Could not find the original author. Will link the poet, once I get the official author.

ये वाहिद का शेर है। which is got famous when famous poet Dr. kumar vishvas mentioned this in his tweet https://twitter.com/DrKumarVishwas/status/1158255403068641280?s=19
You can find this in his latest interview too.... https://youtu.be/arTF7ZB9gTs

[JSRAW]

@Bitlover : What's his full name? Would Like to know more about his work. I follow hindi-urdu poetry and sanskrit(text)  here and there. His name rings a bell but can't remember. He must be contemporary poet.

@erikalui : we can do that here. You can try as well.

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@Bitlover : wahid ali? Who wrote - dewane ishqiya?

[Bitlover10]

@Bitlover : What's his full name? Would Like to know more about his work. I follow hindi-urdu poetry and sanskrit(text)  here and there. His name rings a bell but can't remember. He must be contemporary poet.

~

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@Bitlover : wahid ali? Who wrote - dewane ishqiya?

Yes you are right his full name is wahid Ali you can follow him on his Twitter account and yes he is written diwane ishqiya. https://twitter.com/wahidaliwahid/status/1158276787131936769?s=19

The poems of Awadhi language poet Wahid Ali 'Wahid' are an example of national goodwill.  The special thing of Wahid is that he writes poetry by worshiping Ali's prayer and worship of Bajrang Bali in a sutra. I would like to mentioned his comment on killing innocent people on the name "zihad":- 'What IS (Islamic States) is doing cannot be seen in any way related to Islam.  Even in the month of Ramadan, one who can commit such cruelty cannot be a Muslim.
आज हमारा दीन-धरम, ईमान बहुत शर्मिंदा है। इस्लाम बहुत शर्मिंदा है, इन्सान बहुत शर्मिंदा है उस ढाका की एक गली में, रोता हुआ शैतान मिला, बोला वाहिद लिख देना, शैतान बहुत शर्मिंदा है।'  written by wahid Ali.

[JSRAW]

^ Sweet and Not surprise at all.

Followers of Hussein are one of the most tolerant sects of Islam (along with Ahamidyya) and good amount of them are more patriot than average Indians like you and me. Sadly Shia community is in the minority all over the world and in our nation as well. So no political party cares about them much.

[legendster]

India was already a country before the British rule and it was just made independent in 1947.

Read it again,"India was born after british started to rule" meant it happened on 18th century and they combination of 250 districts all over India and they named it as British India.

The Union or India came into existence after the independence.

However, this part of the land was always colloquially called India / Bharat for a long time before that. There was no single state of India, true.

But this was a collection of different regions with an ever-shifting / undefined border.

Aryavarta, Brahmavarta, Panchala, Braharishi Desha, Madhya Desha etc were all regions and within them there were many kingdoms.

Now I am no scripture expert and know these by heart but someone with the proper knowledge would be able to corroborate this.

Manav Dhramshastra in Sanskrit was quite possibly the first coded book of laws similar to the modern constitution. So you see the concept of India was always there.

The britts just came here and tagged all of us 'idies' and Indians and the land "India"

Hindustan however was a later construct when the muslims started invading.

They do,if you don't know about it then go and vist south India where is the only place people opposed Hindi as their main language even second language.

Have to disagree here, BJP as a government never condones or says this. RSS does. BJP runs the government. RSS does not. However even a kid knows the connections between BJP and RSS.

Hindi should be an official language in places where Hindi is spoken, and regional languages should be given more preference.

But from an administrative point of view, I understand why so many people are so eager to push the one language one nation theory, stems from the us vs them crap. Hindi vs urdu. Hindi vs rest of the world.

The fact is, India has never been the land of homogeneity - it never will be.

[pawanjain]

India is slowly becoming a country divided by religion. Since the beginning of the Modi government's term, we are seeing increasing numbers of mob lynching cases against a particular religious community. "Jai Shree Ram" has now become a political agenda and jobless youths are chanting it like a mantra. India's base is built on tolerance and not on religion. The current incident of J&k, takes us few steps forward to make India a Hindu country where Cow urine will be used as medicine and cow dung will be used as source of energy. The prime accused of terrorist attacks are being made ministers for their own safeguard. Be afraid India, be very very afraid!

I acknowledge your baseless connection with cryptos in this case!  

It has been like you described since ages, it is just getting worse day by day. Politicians are dominating the youths and probably leading them in a wrong direction.
Politics in not for the youths I believe. The base of a generation is established by the youths of that particular generation. The youths of the current generation are well educated.
According to me, they should focus on more important things like bringing newer technologies in their countries, representing their country for various accomplishments in various industries hence making the country proud.
I don't understand why youths are wasting their time indulging themselves into politics. I do understand it is us that have to bring the change but I think we have to find a better way of doing it.

[akhjob]

It has been like you described since ages, it is just getting worse day by day. Politicians are dominating the youths and probably leading them in a wrong direction.
Politics in not for the youths I believe. The base of a generation is established by the youths of that particular generation. The youths of the current generation are well educated.
According to me, they should focus on more important things like bringing newer technologies in their countries, representing their country for various accomplishments in various industries hence making the country proud.
I don't understand why youths are wasting their time indulging themselves into politics. I do understand it is us that have to bring the change but I think we have to find a better way of doing it.

You are completely mistaken here. Well-educated youths should actively participate in Politics and should be encouraged. If the educated youths don't enter Politics, our country will be lead by some ignorant shitheads who doesn't know what the technology is about and will impose a ban on the use of technology if his fellow shitty party members say so.
Just have a look at our current political leaders, apart from a few most are dumb and knows shit about technology. I believe you might have heard of Sellur K Raju, a minister of Tamilnadu who floated Rs.10 lakh worth thermocol sheets in Vaigai reservoir to prevent loss of water due to evaporation in 2017 (If I had that money I would have bought ~2 bitcoins) . This became a worldwide trend. This is what happens with youths doesn't enter Politics. Youths are meant to revolutionize the future Indian Politics.

[pawanjain]

It has been like you described since ages, it is just getting worse day by day. Politicians are dominating the youths and probably leading them in a wrong direction.
Politics in not for the youths I believe. The base of a generation is established by the youths of that particular generation. The youths of the current generation are well educated.
According to me, they should focus on more important things like bringing newer technologies in their countries, representing their country for various accomplishments in various industries hence making the country proud.
I don't understand why youths are wasting their time indulging themselves into politics. I do understand it is us that have to bring the change but I think we have to find a better way of doing it.

You are completely mistaken here. Well-educated youths should actively participate in Politics and should be encouraged. If the educated youths don't enter Politics, our country will be lead by some ignorant shitheads who doesn't know what the technology is about and will impose a ban on the use of technology if his fellow shitty party members say so.
Just have a look at our current political leaders, apart from a few most are dumb and knows shit about technology. I believe you might have heard of Sellur K Raju, a minister of Tamilnadu who floated Rs.10 lakh worth thermocol sheets in Vaigai reservoir to prevent loss of water due to evaporation in 2017 (If I had that money I would have bought ~2 bitcoins) . This became a worldwide trend. This is what happens with youths doesn't enter Politics. Youths are meant to revolutionize the future Indian Politics.

You are probably right. I just had a discussion on this topic with my friend and came to a conclusion that if our country is leaded by a person who has the same thinking as ours then it could really benefit our country a lot.
If the our country has a leader who can potentially realize the importance of newer technologies and implement it in real life situations and it will surely benefit us a lot.
Fighting over religious matters won't do any good but fighting over which technologies to bring would definitely help us a lot.

[Negotiation]

^ Sweet and Not surprise at all.

Followers of Hussein are one of the most tolerant sects of Islam (along with Ahamidyya) and good amount of them are more patriot than average Indians like you and me. Sadly Shia community is in the minority all over the world and in our nation as well. So no political party cares about them much.

@JSRAW Political No.1 Factor?
Politics does not matter India,Kashmir & Pakisthani issues likely international economical issue it's my opinion, Because the problem has been going on for a long time but there is no solution, The problem will be solved if some good people work for it likely former Prime Minister "Indira Gandhi, A. P. J. Abdul Kalam etc." Then everything would have been better resolved.

[JSRAW]

^ not sure bro why you quoted me?