★ BQT & IOU - Bounty reward distribution issue has been solved ★

[Cracker563]

Well yea Zapo is the cause of all the problems. Kudos to the team for coming through for the community. Nevertheless I think the spreadsheet and parameters used to determine the payout should be provided since we all have come this far.

I really commend the team for been true to their words. Now that's hard to come by.

Make the whole thing public ,how payment was made , which bounty or tasks has been paid, how many token per stake e.t.c And let's get over with it.

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[TalkStar]

Thanks all for keeping enough patience about BQT and IOU bounty payment related issue. Yesterday team confirms me about the bounty rewards distribution. Congrats to them who have successfully got their token. From the beginning i tried my best to bring a faster solution for this issue and honestly it wasn't so easy. I wanna give special thanks to team for their positive approach and the real participants who did their best during campaign time.

Most interesting part is that because of their bounty manager zapo's inactivity and unprofessional behavior distribution process got stuck. There is no way to deny that after opening this thread team feels it necessary to start the bounty rewards distribution. Although i believe zapo is responsible for all this things and team wasn't enough caring about their project bounty promoters. Team told me that they have paid 20 btc to zapo for running their signature campaign on bitcointalk but got nothing but bot and spamming. I think all this happened due to their lack of experience about this forum and proper bounty management. I don't wanna waste my time for digging their personal relationship with zapo or any other alt. Maybe It was their mistake to choose reliable campaign manager for their campaign.

Still there is some issues about final selection where total participants on facebook was 13411 and in twitter it was 15867 but in current spreadsheet audit team selected only 951 for facebook and 1189 for twitter. I will request team to provide their final spreadsheet here and hope they will solve any kinda distribution related issue from their telegram channel. Team confirmed me that one of this forum user named sonny will handle all distribution related issue from their official telegram channel.

Here is the channel link: https://t.me/BQTXBounty

After having our community members valuable suggestion here i will lock this topic to get rid off unnecessary replies. Till then stay alert, stay safe.

[BQTX Support]

Well yea Zapo is the cause of all the problems. Kudos to the team for coming through for the community. Nevertheless I think the spreadsheet and parameters used to determine the payout should be provided since we all have come this far.

I really commend the team for been true to their words. Now that's hard to come by.

Make the whole thing public ,how payment was made , which bounty or tasks has been paid, how many token per stake e.t.c And let's get over with it.

Putting up the sheets and getting the distribution info shortly

[Dugari]

Well yea Zapo is the cause of all the problems. Kudos to the team for coming through for the community. Nevertheless I think the spreadsheet and parameters used to determine the payout should be provided since we all have come this far.

I really commend the team for been true to their words. Now that's hard to come by.

Make the whole thing public ,how payment was made , which bounty or tasks has been paid, how many token per stake e.t.c And let's get over with it.

Putting up the sheets and getting the distribution info shortly

Please answer my question above: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173498.msg52535974#msg52535974

[Lucius]

About 20 BTC was paid to Zapo for the signature campaign and we got zero KPI off that.

To which address you sent 20 BTC?

Escrow address for BQT Signature Campaign -> 14cJEUeGm157ok88ouskfDGwbSmzf2Kgcr - Total 0.7 BTC

Escrow address for IOU Signature Campaign -> 17wW3y8HgcRACw6e8wjB5bkuc1CFJzvRQM - Total 0.7615475 BTC

In total = 1.4615475 BTC, which means Zapo is stole 18,54 BTC from you and you did not react until today?

Team told me that they have paid 20 btc to zapo for running their signature campaign on bitcointalk but got nothing but bot and spamming

I was one of the participants in BQT signature campaign, feel free to check my posts and show me where is my part of spam? Now it is easy to say that all participants in signature campaigns are bots and spammers and that most bounty participants are also bad and fakes.

[TalkStar]

I was one of the participants in BQT signature campaign, feel free to check my posts and show me where is my part of spam? Now it is easy to say that all participants in signature campaigns are bots and spammers and that most bounty participants are also bad and fakes.

I have got the same feeling like you Lucius and i am not happy with their explanation. I hope they will provide their final spreadsheet as soon as possible and hopefully after getting it everyone will be able to dig out the real thing. 

[BQTX Support]

Here are the links to the audited spreadsheets, color coded by the auditors

BQT: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PSQxHv6EnQaaSVWdYg4YzbiEKWbkwfBM/view?usp=sharing

IOU: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1alAtz60Fbmw9NYGFeOAjkj0oOTX1yg1Y/view?usp=sharing

[The Cryptovator]

Here are the links to the audited spreadsheets, color coded by the auditors

BQT: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PSQxHv6EnQaaSVWdYg4YzbiEKWbkwfBM/view?usp=sharing

IOU: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1alAtz60Fbmw9NYGFeOAjkj0oOTX1yg1Y/view?usp=sharing

There is huge corruption on BQT Facebook campaign sheet, falsely marked 80% account as bot. Explain me about esprit man, his report still exist and working as well so why it was marked as bot? There is so many case like that.

Total bounty budget was 500,000 BQTX

You have distributed as below:
1. Facebook Campaign: 71534.4 BQTX  (14.3% of total budget) - It should be 166500 BQXT accordingly 33.3% of total stake
2. Twitter Campaign: 14304 BQXT (2.86% of total budget) It should be 166500 BQXT accordingly 33.3% of total stake
3. Telegram Campaign: 2686 BQTX (0.53% of total budget) It should be 66500 BQXT accordingly 13.3% of total stake
4. Content Campaign: 21090 BQXT (4.21% 0f total budget)  It should be 100000 BQXT accordingly 20% of total stake

So you distributed total 109614.4 BQTX which is 21.9% of total budget. Where is remaining 390385.6 BQXT which is 78.1% of total budget?

I think you aware about stake calculation. Its very simple, total budget will be divided by total stake so you will find how much token for each stake. And final distribution will be accordingly. Total budget you have to distribute among participant even you reduce total participant. There is no chances for excuse that there was not too much participant. There is still reasonable amount of participant to distribute full budget.

So, when you are going to distribute remaining amount 390385.6 BQXT which is 78.1% of total budget? 

[Dugari]

Here are the links to the audited spreadsheets, color coded by the auditors

BQT: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PSQxHv6EnQaaSVWdYg4YzbiEKWbkwfBM/view?usp=sharing

IOU: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1alAtz60Fbmw9NYGFeOAjkj0oOTX1yg1Y/view?usp=sharing

You have reduced rewards by 10 times! Look at the screenshots.

[BQTX Support]

Here are the links to the audited spreadsheets, color coded by the auditors

BQT: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PSQxHv6EnQaaSVWdYg4YzbiEKWbkwfBM/view?usp=sharing

IOU: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1alAtz60Fbmw9NYGFeOAjkj0oOTX1yg1Y/view?usp=sharing

You have reduced rewards by 10 times! Look at the screenshots.

Getting this addressed by the auditors. They initially claimed Zapo miscalculated... however, will get clarifications rather than vague recollections.

Will also like to thank you guys for actively investigating this too. If we'd known just how active the community here was, we probably would have gone through the community rather than the long-winded route we took

[BQTX Support]

Here is official position of the company:

1. We paid a lot in SIG during campaign
2. We had issues with bounty spreadsheets left by Zapo
3. We hired an auditor and identified spam/bot traffic/etc and fixed the amounts per posts (paying 2000+ per post was clear mistake on rough spreadsheet Zapo managed as example and he did specify that before leaving)
4. And we actually paid the bounties to those that delivered while striked the others based on the spreadsheet which was consisted of LOTS of SCAM
5. If anyone has specific issue they can click on their link and dispute directly on telegram channel and we will act accordingly.
6. Stake budgets were advertised as total available but not as for distribution with multipliers and we stated it many times on telegram support channel to participants when inquired... a while ago.  It would be unfair for the company to have a bounty campaign full of scam so that later we would move scam stakes to others.  Company would never agree to that and would never start such a bounty.
7. We would be willing to pay 20% premium to those that undisputed in good faith in order to close this threat.  Otherwise let it be... we have done our best and done it in crypto winter while everyone was cheering and hungry... your choice if you would like to give legitimacy to BTT as a marketing tool or would like to prove once again that "no good deed goes unpunished".
8. Either way we are appreciative to those that honestly participated and delivered and wish those participants best of success.

[Lucius]

1. We paid a lot in SIG during campaign

In your previous post, you claim that you pay 20 Bitcoins to Zapo for signature campaign/s, but I posted both addresses where the amount that participants received is less than 1.5 Bitcoin. Now you change the story to "we paid a lot", but you still avoid answering the question.

[The Cryptovator]

Eventually I had tried to contact BQT team through telegram. But from them someone so called community manager knock me, and there was so many arguments. Team want to pay 20% premium those already got stake and rest they will handle if there is claim about stake. But I have asked to distribute full stake those was allocated approx 500000 BQT. But they deny it and agree to pay 30% premium otherwise they will ignore this community. However, eventually I were agreed about 50% premium pay to paid participants, and those had not got token they might claim to their telegram and they will solve issue. But they are not agree about 50% premium pay for paid participants and they decide to ignore that community. According to them they haven't got output from this forum which is unrealistic and big lies to me.


So now, probably they will not pay anything more. Someone from victims should open flag number 3. And I will  support it and I will push up. Rest depend on hunters.

I know the bitcointalk account of community manager who is controlling BQTX support account. Both account handle by same person.

[tvplus006]

I just noticed that a week ago IOUX tokens came to my wallet. For the IOUX bounty, I got 609 IOUX instead of 420 IOUX, as Zapo calculated. But I did not receive BQT tokens. As I wrote earlier, I had accruals both for Facebook and Twitter bounties. Now in the final table of the Facebook campaign, I am marked in red. I will try to contact them at https://t.me/BQTXBounty. If they answer me, then I will write here.

[The Cryptovator]

Eventually BQT team has been agreed to distribute more 50% extra to who already received tokens. That means if someone got 100 BQT then he will received more 50 BQT token. There was lots of arguments about stake distributions. What understand from the team, they have bad experience with bitcointalk due to Zapo. Team were friendly enough to distribute stake but there was lack of management since Zapo was the one who should manage everything. Team went disappointed due to unexpected behaviour from Zapo and team isn't familiar with bitcointalk community.

However, I would like say thanks to TalkStar for raise up this issue. That's is really very rare case since he was not victim but tried to help forum users. So distribution credits goes to TalkStar.


From my side I tried my best to convince team but really I am unable to force them. Their claim also quite reasonable and it's true that there was so many fake/bot participants.

To ensure unpaid participants stake they are going to distribute fairly if there is legit participants. They will allow one week to dispute their stake. After a week no more dispute will granted, because it could not run for lifetime. And I have suggested them to open their own distribution thread and update on original bounty thread. So all unpaid legit participants should noticed and claim their stake. Personally I can't call them scammer since they already distribute stake and going to paid more 50% premium. On the other hand they will resolve valid dispute as they promise to me. They will explain why they reduce total stake on their thread. What I believe, they were not reduce stake if zapo continued his service.

They will start remaining 50% premium and unclaimed stake after resolve this thread. And obviously if they denied their promises I will open red flag number 4 since I have written evidence. Even I will flag related staff with BQT if they break their promises. So I think OP of this thread should edit this thread title since they already distribute stakes, so they will proceed remaining distribution works. So OP would mark it "Bounty Resolution" instead of scam.

I did maximum from my side whatever I could. If any DT or other user not agree with my decision then talk with team and solve this issue. For me I will consider this case solved after distribution of 50% premium and after completing dispute process as like I said above.


Eventually I want say, "something is better than nothing". Participants will not get anything if they like to skip from this forum. So at least participants will get something since they helped team to promote their ICO.


I am really disappointed from "spam hunters" even they are not aware about this thread although TalkStar updated on their Bounty thread. Really they do not deserve whatever done by me. Spam hunter just busy to spam on this forum.


If anyone have any comments feel free to share. I might be wrong, but I can't do anything else except to get rid of them from forum by scam flags and red tag.

[BQTX Support]

First off, we'd like to apologize for how our last communication to the community came across - frayed nerves and wits end. We've now come to understand that when dealing with decentralized entities to resolve conflicts, there's a lot of giving and taking involved. It was wrong of us to assume a finality to our stance rather than continuing to dialogue with the pillars of the community. To this end, we wish to tender our unreserved apology to Talkstar who never really gave up on us and continued to admonish us to do right by the community rather than focusing on grievances without. All the more remarkable when you consider the fact that he has no stakes in the bounty. His concern was for the community and doing right by the community first.

Our thanks also goes to Coolcryptovator for stepping in to listen to our side of the story and helping us come to an agreement on what is fair to both parties despite several hurdles. We also own xtraelv a mention for his previous guidance and mediation.

Hopefully, this is the beginning of a brand, new chapter with the community where our focus is now more hands-on rather than mediated/via proxy.

Thank you all for your various contributions, criticism, and feedback

[TalkStar]

I wanna give thanks to every single member of our community who feel it necessary to spend their time on this thread. My only intention behind opening this thread was to connect participant and team together for fair distribution. Bounty participants will be glad to know that team has confirmed me about their final distribution. Every selected participant will get 50% extra on their wallet. Its been a couple of weeks that i have started my regular communication with team and there is no way to deny that they deeply respect our community. As a result they tried their best for start their bounty reward distribution as early as possible.

As a forum member i believe it was my responsibility to bring a proper solution for this issue and honestly it was not so easy to hold regular communication with team and bounty participants. I have already edited my thread title and always care about genuine crypto projects reputation.

Hopefully i will come back with another forum related unsolved issue soon. Till then everyone,,,,, Stay Alert, Stay Safe.


 

[BQTX Support]

For all bounty claims and dispute, we have created a thread here for the community. Please post all claims and dispute there

[Lucius]

What about the question of those 20 BTC paid for a signature campaign and calling all participants spammers and bots? No answer on that, it is a hard task to invent a new lie?

Personally, I find it funny that some members of this forum can be bought very easily, and that I read something like this:

Its been a couple of weeks that i have started my regular communication with team and there is no way to deny that they deeply respect our community.

The very fact that all this happened, clearly shows amateurism from BQT&IOU team, and more than obvious disregard for this community. You and some others literally had to beg for something, and all they say is how they pay huge money and then get only spammers&bots.

BQT&IOU invest less then 1.5 BTC in their signature campaign, until a few days ago it was all from their big investment here. I'm personally sorry for promoting their projects, as far as I can see, these are completely worthless tokens that like all other shitcoins, will bring profit only to those who started the whole thing.

[TalkStar]

For all bounty claims and dispute, we have created a thread here for the community. Please post all claims and dispute there

I will lock this topic very soon and hope you guys will provide better solution for participants reward distribution related issue until next 7 days.

What about the question of those 20 BTC paid for a signature campaign and calling all participants spammers and bots? No answer on that, it is a hard task to invent a new lie?

I don't wanna waste my time for their personal payment related issue and maybe you think kinda same. Already given my suggestion to open scam accusation against zapo if they got enough evidences on their hand. Hopefully it's the best way by how they can prove their 20BTC payment related matter to community.

Personally, I find it funny that some members of this forum can be bought very easily, and that I read something like this:

Sorry don't understand this part clearly dude. Will you please make it much clear?

You and some others literally had to beg for something, and all they say is how they pay huge money and then get only spammers&bots.

It was my responsibility to make contact with team and give pressure to release their bounty payment. They have done it from their end and everything has already been discussed here. After zapo's inactivity whole thing got stuck and after opening this thread team make their response on this issue. As far as i know that you were one of their bounty participant too.

Most interesting thing is that after opening this thread i have got only few claim here and feeling really curious about that 16k participants. Maybe they are spending long holiday's or sleeping. So what more we could do for this kinda sleeping bounty hunters where they don't care about their own payments too.