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August 08, 2019, 08:19:59 PM
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What happened::
Creating a ponzi scheme with fake details


Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=713039

Reference Link:
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1. Their thread https://web.archive.org/web/20190808201619/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173710.0
2. Their address and license number according to site https://web.archive.org/web/20190808195620/https://honeybeeapp.online/contact
3. Address owner in real world https://web.archive.org/web/20190808200008/https://www.classicminers.com/?a=cust&page=aboutus
4. License registered company in real world https://web.archive.org/web/20190808201501/https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00474549

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They state on their thread (archived #1) that their project was not a ponzi or MLM, yet they offer a tiered investment and referral of 5 to look for other "bee help".

They also put two fake credentials on their details according to their web info (archived #2)

One, their address 801 Glen Eagles Drive Fort Frances ON P9A X4S is an US address, not UK as they state, and it belong to a company named ClassicMiners (archived #3).

Two, they state that they're a UK registered company under number 00474549, while it is belong to a company named Miners that apparently runs on leasing real estates (archived #4)

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August 11, 2019, 02:56:10 AM
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What happened::
Creating a ponzi scheme with fake details


Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=713039

Reference Link:
(Everything on archive)
1. Their thread https://web.archive.org/web/20190808201619/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173710.0
2. Their address and license number according to site https://web.archive.org/web/20190808195620/https://honeybeeapp.online/contact
3. Address owner in real world https://web.archive.org/web/20190808200008/https://www.classicminers.com/?a=cust&page=aboutus
4. License registered company in real world https://web.archive.org/web/20190808201501/https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00474549

Amount Scammed:
0
Payment Method:
N/A
Proof of Payment:
N/A
PM/Chat Logs:
N/A
Additional Notes:

They state on their thread (archived #1) that their project was not a ponzi or MLM, yet they offer a tiered investment and referral of 5 to look for other "bee help".

They also put two fake credentials on their details according to their web info (archived #2)

One, their address 801 Glen Eagles Drive Fort Frances ON P9A X4S is an US address, not UK as they state, and it belong to a company named ClassicMiners (archived #3).

Two, they state that they're a UK registered company under number 00474549, while it is belong to a company named Miners that apparently runs on leasing real estates (archived #4)


this project is not a scam. I think there's something wrong. Money is still withdrawn. The project is still considered a ponzi type. But, this is a new type to help community. You should look carefully.
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August 11, 2019, 03:40:22 PM
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this project is not a scam. I think there's something wrong. Money is still withdrawn. The project is still considered a ponzi type. But, this is a new type to help community. You should look carefully.

Based on your post history, I would assume you're affiliated with them as all of your three posts all about their project. Departing from it, can quoted post above be considered as self confession that it's ponzi?

And I'll beg to differ on the denial of scam, read again the definition of what scam is. Even though they're still paying, which most likely will stopped at one point and put so many people at lost, they still use fake credentials. Can you explain why?

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August 11, 2019, 03:59:21 PM
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This link is not working for me.

Archived it here: https://archive.fo/ywFnx

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August 13, 2019, 01:03:47 PM
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this project is not a scam. I think there's something wrong. Money is still withdrawn. The project is still considered a ponzi type. But, this is a new type to help community. You should look carefully.

Based on your post history, I would assume you're affiliated with them as all of your three posts all about their project. Departing from it, can quoted post above be considered as self confession that it's ponzi?

And I'll beg to differ on the denial of scam, read again the definition of what scam is. Even though they're still paying, which most likely will stopped at one point and put so many people at lost, they still use fake credentials. Can you explain why?

I need proof for your accusation. I do not protect any project, I feel good and have money when I join this project. and I have not lost any money, even though starting with the project must cost 10 dollars. I know that ponzi will sometimes have to stop in a certain situation. But there are many people who still enjoy it, and owe it. it exists for some reason. I understand how you feel, I know you are a good person when helping people against scammers. But when I studied the policy of this project, I realized that it was a real community project. Nominally, ponzi, the creator of the project did not take money to their pockets, they moved the cash flow to everyone. They only take a small fee to maintain. I assure you, this project goes on for a long time, carefully read the project's policy and feel with your heart. Thank you.
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August 14, 2019, 08:22:43 AM
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I need proof for your accusation. I do not protect any project, I feel good and have money when I join this project. and I have not lost any money, even though starting with the project must cost 10 dollars. I know that ponzi will sometimes have to stop in a certain situation. But there are many people who still enjoy it, and owe it. it exists for some reason. I understand how you feel, I know you are a good person when helping people against scammers. But when I studied the policy of this project, I realized that it was a real community project. Nominally, ponzi, the creator of the project did not take money to their pockets, they moved the cash flow to everyone. They only take a small fee to maintain. I assure you, this project goes on for a long time, carefully read the project's policy and feel with your heart. Thank you.

Proof of my accusation that you're supporting them? See your post history, we can literally say you create your account to post support for this scam... oops, I mean ponzi project. Do you know that supporting and encouraging ponzi --which later would turn into scam-- is highly frowned upon?

I would like to know on which part of the page you find an info that dev didn't take any profit, or that every payment is paid. I can't see any payment proof or details of their policy. Feel free to post your payment proof here.

Also replying your post on their thread which I quote below,


I don't see any fake information. I need you to have proof. You should remember: ponzi always has stops, many projects like this. and many people like it.
Why ponzi still exists, hyip still exists. because it helps many people. Do not confuse me in relation to them. I just said my opinion.

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If you can't see any fake information, kindly see the opening post if this thread, it's all detailed there. Take your time, I will be patiently waiting for your comment about how those are not fake, and further, how could any trustworthy project do such action.

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August 14, 2019, 11:39:08 AM
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I need proof for your accusation. I do not protect any project, I feel good and have money when I join this project. and I have not lost any money, even though starting with the project must cost 10 dollars. I know that ponzi will sometimes have to stop in a certain situation. But there are many people who still enjoy it, and owe it. it exists for some reason. I understand how you feel, I know you are a good person when helping people against scammers. But when I studied the policy of this project, I realized that it was a real community project. Nominally, ponzi, the creator of the project did not take money to their pockets, they moved the cash flow to everyone. They only take a small fee to maintain. I assure you, this project goes on for a long time, carefully read the project's policy and feel with your heart. Thank you.

Proof of my accusation that you're supporting them? See your post history, we can literally say you create your account to post support for this scam... oops, I mean ponzi project. Do you know that supporting and encouraging ponzi --which later would turn into scam-- is highly frowned upon?

I would like to know on which part of the page you find an info that dev didn't take any profit, or that every payment is paid. I can't see any payment proof or details of their policy. Feel free to post your payment proof here.

Also replying your post on their thread which I quote below,


I don't see any fake information. I need you to have proof. You should remember: ponzi always has stops, many projects like this. and many people like it.
Why ponzi still exists, hyip still exists. because it helps many people. Do not confuse me in relation to them. I just said my opinion.

I

If you can't see any fake information, kindly see the opening post if this thread, it's all detailed there. Take your time, I will be patiently waiting for your comment about how those are not fake, and further, how could any trustworthy project do such action.


I need you to take a picture of the evidence. I could not believe the denunciation without a concrete evidence. I searched for the information you gave in this thread, and what I searched for was not the same. Spend your free time doing other useful things. Instead of denouncing and not having enough evidence, I think you should close this thread.
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August 14, 2019, 02:40:06 PM
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I need you to take a picture of the evidence. I could not believe the denunciation without a concrete evidence. I searched for the information you gave in this thread, and what I searched for was not the same. Spend your free time doing other useful things. Instead of denouncing and not having enough evidence, I think you should close this thread.

Oh, you just made my day! LOL. I'm not sure you're really uninformed or play dumb. Evidences are literally presented on the opening post, the first post, right under the "reference" section. It's an archive of pages as evidence, if you didn't know what it means, they're a snapshot of some page at some time that can be used for future reference (on this case, evidence).

Now, about evidence and pictures, I'm still waiting for your proof of their legitimacy on payment.

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