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Would be nice to get an overview of the games without registration, i wont register just to see which games do you offer. Are there any plans to support other cryptos next to bitcoin in the future?
There are, currently you can exchange most of altcoins on customer support livechat with an 1% standard fee, same as Changelly, or many other stock exchanges.
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August 11, 2019, 06:14:23 PM |
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Would be nice to get an overview of the games without registration, i wont register just to see which games do you offer. Are there any plans to support other cryptos next to bitcoin in the future?
There are currently only a Limbo dice-based game, with various payouts possible. Hope you will enjoy. Don't hestigate to contact customer support if you don't know anything, - you can write them without an account registered. Thank you, Best wishes, - Ray
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August 11, 2019, 06:32:00 PM |
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Yeah, i'm trying to recover this sh*t, after investing 80 BTC into bankroll, 26,000€ for IT infrastructure, 20,000€ for licences, and 6,000€ for customer support. I were investing into highest quality, in everything, even 2x10GbE Unshared Dedicated Network Solutions, which cost over 4000€ monthly at average. I were trying to build highest quality Casino, investing into the best software, certification labs, etc. - proofs: Nobody play there, the only one who lost was myself. I don't know how to build this, or lead this anymore. I kept dreaming about creating an nicely society, look how much i invested into, what i got for this? Nothing. No any deposit, no any message to the customer support. Just nothing. Ray
Sounds like you've spent a lot of time and money on your site. Although I immediately see one thing missing from your list of expenses. Marketing. You may have a great website there, with very decent software, more than enough hardware capability to sever many users, and a well trained staff to resolve issues. But that's worthless if nobody knows about your site. And yes, I know getting exposure can be hard, I know getting your name out in a market that's already as saturated as the crypto gambling market can be hard. And I also can promise you that it's not going to happen over night. You've just started off, you have the capabilities to grow, but you have to give it the time needed to do that. Building trust is a long process, you're not gonna establish yourself from one day to another. It takes time, and work, over months and years. And sadly mistakes can destroy the trust you've built way quicker than you earned it. After that, regaining trust can be even harder than it was the first time. So, what I would advise you is this: Do it right, you seem to have done it right setting up your site, don't destroy that now with dumb decisions, continue what you did before and act properly.
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August 11, 2019, 06:39:44 PM |
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Yeah, i'm trying to recover this sh*t, after investing 80 BTC into bankroll, 26,000€ for IT infrastructure, 20,000€ for licences, and 6,000€ for customer support. I were investing into highest quality, in everything, even 2x10GbE Unshared Dedicated Network Solutions, which cost over 4000€ monthly at average. I were trying to build highest quality Casino, investing into the best software, certification labs, etc. - proofs: Nobody play there, the only one who lost was myself. I don't know how to build this, or lead this anymore. I kept dreaming about creating an nicely society, look how much i invested into, what i got for this? Nothing. No any deposit, no any message to the customer support. Just nothing. Ray
Sounds like you've spent a lot of time and money on your site. Although I immediately see one thing missing from your list of expenses. Marketing. You may have a great website there, with very decent software, more than enough hardware capability to sever many users, and a well trained staff to resolve issues. But that's worthless if nobody knows about your site. And yes, I know getting exposure can be hard, I know getting your name out in a market that's already as saturated as the crypto gambling market can be hard. And I also can promise you that it's not going to happen over night. You've just started off, you have the capabilities to grow, but you have to give it the time needed to do that. Building trust is a long process, you're not gonna establish yourself from one day to another. It takes time, and work, over months and years. And sadly mistakes can destroy the trust you've built way quicker than you earned it. After that, regaining trust can be even harder than it was the first time. So, what I would advise you is this: Do it right, you seem to have done it right setting up your site, don't destroy that now with dumb decisions, continue what you did before and act properly. That's the true words. But i don't wanna lie, marketing never was my was good. As right, i invested very much in this project, as you saw. I'm trying to just realise my dreams, and i will keep it going. I will kept doing what im doing, i wish to build an awesome player society. Thank you, Lutpin. Have a nice evening. - Ray
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August 11, 2019, 09:45:04 PM |
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Dearest Community! Please, take a look at our FREE BTC DRAW! - at the main post of topic.
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August 11, 2019, 11:11:26 PM |
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0.09 BTC profit from 0.01 BTC deposit? and to get that profit, you only need less than 10 minutes? What's your username on there?
Lol i already suspected OP with this post. That's almost impossible for new person who won lot just in short time after this thread announced. (The 10 minutes is the most suspicious thing though). You were tried to lure people by fake winnings from your alt account to gamble on your site, that's a big NO for me. P.S goodluck with your ruby account, why don't make it has 100 btc profit on your site?
MaltaGames.eu became RNG certified! We would like to remind you, dearest community - about the 4 x 0.00025000 BTC draw! - Ray Just a note for other gambler, you need 0.002 as minimum withdrawal. You need make x8 before you can withdraw
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August 11, 2019, 11:20:43 PM |
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0.09 BTC profit from 0.01 BTC deposit? and to get that profit, you only need less than 10 minutes? What's your username on there?
Lol i already suspected OP with this post. That's almost impossible for new person who won lot just in short time after this thread announced. (The 10 minutes is the most suspicious thing though). You were tried to lure people by fake winnings from your alt account to gamble on your site, that's a big NO for me. P.S goodluck with your ruby account, why don't make it has 100 btc profit on your site?
MaltaGames.eu became RNG certified! We would like to remind you, dearest community - about the 4 x 0.00025000 BTC draw! - Ray Just a note for other gambler, you need 0.002 as minimum withdrawal. You need make x8 before you can withdraw Or wager it by 1x as required, then deposit 0.00175 and withdraw 0.002 - 0.0001 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) - that depends on the players. But, playing with absolutely no any risk - (money from draw) means... huh ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Or wager it by 1x as required, then deposit 0.00175 and withdraw 0.002 - 0.0001 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) - that depends on the players. But, playing with absolutely no any risk - (money from draw) means... huh ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Wager 1x? All people will bet it on lowest payout (1.1x) then. A note for you, you can't run your lottery on this section (your thread could be trashed by moderator later) , if you still want to continue your lottery, make a new thread on games and rounds section.
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August 12, 2019, 12:53:57 PM |
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Or wager it by 1x as required, then deposit 0.00175 and withdraw 0.002 - 0.0001 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) - that depends on the players. But, playing with absolutely no any risk - (money from draw) means... huh ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Wager 1x? All people will bet it on lowest payout (1.1x) then. A note for you, you can't run your lottery on this section (your thread could be trashed by moderator later) , if you still want to continue your lottery, make a new thread on games and rounds section. Well, even that 1.1x payout is a risk, - it doesnt matter how, but it need to be wagered by at least 1x and you can keep it. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Clear, and easy terms is what MaltaGames wanna provide. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 12, 2019, 01:51:29 PM |
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Or wager it by 1x as required, then deposit 0.00175 and withdraw 0.002 - 0.0001 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) - that depends on the players. But, playing with absolutely no any risk - (money from draw) means... huh ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Wager 1x? All people will bet it on lowest payout (1.1x) then. A note for you, you can't run your lottery on this section (your thread could be trashed by moderator later) , if you still want to continue your lottery, make a new thread on games and rounds section. Well, even that 1.1x payout is a risk, - it doesnt matter how, but it need to be wagered by at least 1x and you can keep it. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Clear, and easy terms is what MaltaGames wanna provide. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You have spent a lot of money and time on this business but you make a very bad start by shilling your own site. My doubt is right that you are not a real player because you are just a shill account. You have just busted your own project by the mistake IMO. It seems that you have so big expectation on this business but the result is not like what you expect, that's why you try to make it looks good by shilling it but that's become a boomerang for yourself. It is indeed not too late to get better result but you need to prove that you are legit gambling site owner, don't make mistake again and be honest on anything related your business.
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August 12, 2019, 04:42:55 PM |
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Or wager it by 1x as required, then deposit 0.00175 and withdraw 0.002 - 0.0001 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) - that depends on the players. But, playing with absolutely no any risk - (money from draw) means... huh ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Wager 1x? All people will bet it on lowest payout (1.1x) then. A note for you, you can't run your lottery on this section (your thread could be trashed by moderator later) , if you still want to continue your lottery, make a new thread on games and rounds section. Well, even that 1.1x payout is a risk, - it doesnt matter how, but it need to be wagered by at least 1x and you can keep it. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Clear, and easy terms is what MaltaGames wanna provide. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You have spent a lot of money and time on this business but you make a very bad start by shilling your own site. My doubt is right that you are not a real player because you are just a shill account. You have just busted your own project by the mistake IMO. It seems that you have so big expectation on this business but the result is not like what you expect, that's why you try to make it looks good by shilling it but that's become a boomerang for yourself. It is indeed not too late to get better result but you need to prove that you are legit gambling site owner, don't make mistake again and be honest on anything related your business. Alright, - we are fully registered & licenced gambling services provider, recently also RNG certified. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) - you can verify it by accessing the documents/seal from our website (at the footer). Okay, i did the beginning wrong, i'm sorry, dearest community, i'm sorry. I can spend so much, i can realise it in a great way, but i don't have an experience in marketing - it never was my good... I will keep doing what i'm doing. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Sorry everyone, i won't do this in a silly way anymore. It's really hard to achieve something, being brand new in online casinos - i were (and still are) running a local casino on Malta, but virtual casino isn't a local casino... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) - Ray
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August 12, 2019, 05:19:20 PM |
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Alright, - we are fully registered & licenced gambling services provider, recently also RNG certified. - you can verify it by accessing the documents/seal from our website (at the footer). I can spend so much, i can realise it in a great way, but i don't have an experience in marketing - it never was my good... I will keep doing what i'm doing. Sorry everyone, i won't do this in a silly way anymore. It's really hard to achieve something, being brand new in online casinos
Let me give you a primer: You claim to have a 80 BTC bankroll, and you state in the OP that the bankroll information can be checked with customer support. Now it would be a waste of everyone's time if every potential player has to verify your solvency one by one with your support. It's fairly standard for new casinos to provide signed messages from their coldwallet addresses to show they hold enough reserves. Having a traceable verified bankroll gives your casino some legitimacy, something you struggle for right now.
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August 12, 2019, 05:35:32 PM |
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Alright, - we are fully registered & licenced gambling services provider, recently also RNG certified. - you can verify it by accessing the documents/seal from our website (at the footer). I can spend so much, i can realise it in a great way, but i don't have an experience in marketing - it never was my good... I will keep doing what i'm doing. Sorry everyone, i won't do this in a silly way anymore. It's really hard to achieve something, being brand new in online casinos
Let me give you a primer: You claim to have a 80 BTC bankroll, and you state in the OP that the bankroll information can be checked with customer support. Now it would be a waste of everyone's time if every potential player has to verify your solvency one by one with your support. It's fairly standard for new casinos to provide signed messages from their coldwallet addresses to show they hold enough reserves. Having a traceable verified bankroll gives your casino some legitimacy, something you struggle for right now. Alright, the bankroll is 80 BTC splitted within 20,000 different addresses (what gives 0.004 BTC for each), due to security - and just to guarantee the highest Tx anonymity. 10,000 addresses stored is Bech32, and 10,000 addresses stored in standard. I can proof my addresses, of course. - there are an example of one from our addresses: Message: This account is #10,978 wallet address from #20,000 addresses from MaltaGames.eu Address: 1EAFaKrrcPQzVvAtEJGuX74SEgZAaVnXPL Key: H6PXqK6tnnUFlJvahgYVZHwLdq58m6Rm1aRoV0LYHY2HMqk/WhP/hoDO6WOfrA4dFTHIKLLmKofcWLIrt0zk+d0=
The funds coming to generated by our standard addresses, are being also distributed into other cryptocurrencies, (for ex. Monero), then exchanged again into BTC, to guarantee the non-trackable income of funds for anyone. Storing our wallets in like that, guarantee the biggest security, and mostly non-trackable funds record. We stay at the highest position of security. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) - that's our main vocation! - Definitely.
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August 12, 2019, 06:47:53 PM |
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[...] and just to guarantee the highest Tx anonymity. [...] to guarantee the non-trackable income of funds for anyone. Storing our wallets in like that, guarantee the biggest security, and mostly non-trackable funds record.
I'd challenge that, given how Bitcoin is a fully public ledger and chainanalysis can be a b*tch. But that's something for another time, maybe. [...] due to security Storing our wallets in like that, guarantee the biggest security [...] We stay at the highest position of security. [...]
The way I read it, your full bankroll is stored in a wallet that is connected to your life servers, as you use it for hot-wallet purposes, is that correct? You say you store your bankroll this way for anonymity purposes, which means you work with a single wallet structure, no separation between hot-wallets and cold-wallets, correct? Mow I can see the argument being made that at 80 BTC all funds are needed to provide a reliable hot-wallet, but I'd disagree and point out the low transaction load, thus room to secure parts of the bankroll in a more traditional way. Alright, the bankroll is 80 BTC splitted within 20,000 different addresses (what gives 0.004 BTC for each) [...]
That sounds unpractical, and wasteful in terms of block space. Also, it might directly go against your second highest priority (anonymity), unless you strictly prohibit address reuse, and even then it might not be enough. Have you played out some test scenarios with this setup to see how it impacts yourself and the bitcoin blockchain? Say I deposit 0.5 BTC, get lucky and win 0.5 BTC, now I want to withdraw 1BTC, that would result in a transaction having 250 inputs from your end. Let's assume we're operating on the "standard" address half of your bankroll (I guess that means non-segwit & p2sh or p2pkh), I'll use p2pkh in my calculation as worst case example: each input would amount to 180 bytes of transaction size, two outputs a 34 bytes, and 10 bytes overhead. Sum it up and you get 180*250+76=45076 bytes -> 44.02kB That's a shitton of data for one single transaction. Now let's say you're using a fee of 0.0003BTC/kB (source: BTC.com average over the last days; yeah, it should be WU now, but whatever, bear with my and my legacy calculation), That would amount to transaction fees of 0.0132BTC for this withdrawal. Do you charge that fee to the customer? Do you send the withdrawal with a significantly lower fee, resulting in it taking ages to confirm during high network traffic times? Or do you eat the fees yourselves, providing a nice experience for your customer, but costing yourself dearly in transaction fees, especially if several of those transactions happen in a short time. On a side note (wrapping back to the first point): With that withdrawal, you just linked 250 of your 20,000 addresses together, someone who knows the transaction was sent by you (like the user issuing it) can now go and analyze 250 addresses, the way you funneled the funds into the addresses, where they came from, find similar addresses that were connected in earlier transactions, or just analyze the pattern and see where it repeats. Your 20,000 address setup might not increase anonymity at all, and given the huge overhead it comes with, I'd question whether it's worth it or not.
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August 12, 2019, 07:13:36 PM |
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[...] and just to guarantee the highest Tx anonymity. [...] to guarantee the non-trackable income of funds for anyone. Storing our wallets in like that, guarantee the biggest security, and mostly non-trackable funds record.
I'd challenge that, given how Bitcoin is a fully public ledger and chainanalysis can be a b*tch. But that's something for another time, maybe. [...] due to security Storing our wallets in like that, guarantee the biggest security [...] We stay at the highest position of security. [...]
The way I read it, your full bankroll is stored in a wallet that is connected to your life servers, as you use it for hot-wallet purposes, is that correct? You say you store your bankroll this way for anonymity purposes, which means you work with a single wallet structure, no separation between hot-wallets and cold-wallets, correct? Mow I can see the argument being made that at 80 BTC all funds are needed to provide a reliable hot-wallet, but I'd disagree and point out the low transaction load, thus room to secure parts of the bankroll in a more traditional way. Alright, the bankroll is 80 BTC splitted within 20,000 different addresses (what gives 0.004 BTC for each) [...]
That sounds unpractical, and wasteful in terms of block space. Also, it might directly go against your second highest priority (anonymity), unless you strictly prohibit address reuse, and even then it might not be enough. Have you played out some test scenarios with this setup to see how it impacts yourself and the bitcoin blockchain? Say I deposit 0.5 BTC, get lucky and win 0.5 BTC, now I want to withdraw 1BTC, that would result in a transaction having 250 inputs from your end. Let's assume we're operating on the "standard" address half of your bankroll (I guess that means non-segwit & p2sh or p2pkh), I'll use p2pkh in my calculation as worst case example: each input would amount to 180 bytes of transaction size, two outputs a 34 bytes, and 10 bytes overhead. Sum it up and you get 180*250+76=45076 bytes -> 44.02kB That's a shitton of data for one single transaction. Now let's say you're using a fee of 0.0003BTC/kB (source: BTC.com average over the last days; yeah, it should be WU now, but whatever, bear with my and my legacy calculation), That would amount to transaction fees of 0.0132BTC for this withdrawal. Do you charge that fee to the customer? Do you send the withdrawal with a significantly lower fee, resulting in it taking ages to confirm during high network traffic times? Or do you eat the fees yourselves, providing a nice experience for your customer, but costing yourself dearly in transaction fees, especially if several of those transactions happen in a short time. On a side note (wrapping back to the first point): With that withdrawal, you just linked 250 of your 20,000 addresses together, someone who knows the transaction was sent by you (like the user issuing it) can now go and analyze 250 addresses, the way you funneled the funds into the addresses, where they came from, find similar addresses that were connected in earlier transactions, or just analyze the pattern and see where it repeats. Your 20,000 address setup might not increase anonymity at all, and given the huge overhead it comes with, I'd question whether it's worth it or not. We cover the Tx fee, but we send it as an little lower fees - usually they get confirmed on blockchain within 2, up to 6 blocks. - depending on. 20,000 address setup increases anonymity at all, as all new generated addresses from funds from the players generate another address with 0.004 BTC on-board after exchanging into altcoins, & back. It's just too easy to know the source of funds on BTC address, if they came from gambling. - for ex. look at the Bitsler. Move to the wallet address into which funds from address X was sent, then into wallet address Y, which is a cold-wallet. You can easily identify the source of funds by this, for ex. as i given. / Note: we charge only 0.00010000 BTC for the Tx Fee, undependant on how much it will cost.
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[...] and just to guarantee the highest Tx anonymity. [...] to guarantee the non-trackable income of funds for anyone. Storing our wallets in like that, guarantee the biggest security, and mostly non-trackable funds record.
I'd challenge that, given how Bitcoin is a fully public ledger and chainanalysis can be a b*tch. But that's something for another time, maybe. [...] due to security Storing our wallets in like that, guarantee the biggest security [...] We stay at the highest position of security. [...]
The way I read it, your full bankroll is stored in a wallet that is connected to your life servers, as you use it for hot-wallet purposes, is that correct? You say you store your bankroll this way for anonymity purposes, which means you work with a single wallet structure, no separation between hot-wallets and cold-wallets, correct? Mow I can see the argument being made that at 80 BTC all funds are needed to provide a reliable hot-wallet, but I'd disagree and point out the low transaction load, thus room to secure parts of the bankroll in a more traditional way. Alright, the bankroll is 80 BTC splitted within 20,000 different addresses (what gives 0.004 BTC for each) [...]
That sounds unpractical, and wasteful in terms of block space. Also, it might directly go against your second highest priority (anonymity), unless you strictly prohibit address reuse, and even then it might not be enough. Have you played out some test scenarios with this setup to see how it impacts yourself and the bitcoin blockchain? Say I deposit 0.5 BTC, get lucky and win 0.5 BTC, now I want to withdraw 1BTC, that would result in a transaction having 250 inputs from your end. Let's assume we're operating on the "standard" address half of your bankroll (I guess that means non-segwit & p2sh or p2pkh), I'll use p2pkh in my calculation as worst case example: each input would amount to 180 bytes of transaction size, two outputs a 34 bytes, and 10 bytes overhead. Sum it up and you get 180*250+76=45076 bytes -> 44.02kB That's a shitton of data for one single transaction. Now let's say you're using a fee of 0.0003BTC/kB (source: BTC.com average over the last days; yeah, it should be WU now, but whatever, bear with my and my legacy calculation), That would amount to transaction fees of 0.0132BTC for this withdrawal. Do you charge that fee to the customer? Do you send the withdrawal with a significantly lower fee, resulting in it taking ages to confirm during high network traffic times? Or do you eat the fees yourselves, providing a nice experience for your customer, but costing yourself dearly in transaction fees, especially if several of those transactions happen in a short time. On a side note (wrapping back to the first point): With that withdrawal, you just linked 250 of your 20,000 addresses together, someone who knows the transaction was sent by you (like the user issuing it) can now go and analyze 250 addresses, the way you funneled the funds into the addresses, where they came from, find similar addresses that were connected in earlier transactions, or just analyze the pattern and see where it repeats. Your 20,000 address setup might not increase anonymity at all, and given the huge overhead it comes with, I'd question whether it's worth it or not.Oh, and also - the base withdrawal are being took from the account without withdrawing from splitten addresses. The funds from player's given deposit addresses are being took after the lost of no less than 96.94% only. - in otherwise, the funds stay on the same account - as we believe the player may recover the funds still. In this way, we can guarantee a little bit more expensive, but also a powerful - anonymity & security. And, for the deposits that still didn't got touched yet, the main 80 BTC bankroll pay them out.
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We cover the Tx fee, but we send it as an little lower fees - usually they get confirmed on blockchain within 2, up to 6 blocks. - depending on.
That's today, and yesterday, and the day before. What about last week, last month? How long have you been making bitcoin transactions? And I mean daily, a huge amount of them, for customers that are waiting on you? The situation around transaction fees and block size is pretty chill right now, but it would be foolish to expect it to remain like this indefinitely. Do you have a contingency plan, for when fee averages shoot up, because the transaction load increases. For when it suddenly becomes way more expensive to consolidate your small inputs? I can't see the future, maybe we're lucky and fees stay like this or lower for a long while, however the possibility exists, and we've seen extreme fee levels in the past, so you should be prepared for them. With the current setup you are running, your service will be significantly more impacted by a rise in the fee market than most, if not all, other services. And it's already been bad for everyone else in the past. Feel free to ignore my warning, or give it some thought and consider to be prepared, rather than stumbling blindly in a crippling situation. 20,000 address setup increases anonymity at all, as all new generated addresses from funds from the players generate another address with 0.004 BTC on-board after exchanging into altcoins, & back.
Ok, how are your 20,000 addresses generated? What source of entropy did you use for them? Creating 20,000 addresses sounds like a huge task, convenience allows us to generate a batch of addresses from a single source, using hierarchical deterministic wallets. Are your 20,000 addresses fully independent addresses, or are they part of one or several HD wallets? It's just too easy to know the source of funds on BTC address, if they came from gambling. - for ex. look at the Bitsler. Move to the wallet address into which funds from address X was sent, then into wallet address Y, which is a cold-wallet. You can easily identify the source of funds by this, for ex. as i given.
It's a cost/benefit calculation to make, and imho, yours doesn't come out on the benefit side of things. I would also suspect that it isn't that hard to identify funds that come from your service. Harder than when not doing any of the things you do, for sure, but not hard enough, and certainly not impossible. I'd wager a skilled blockchain detective can unmask your whole setup with little to no work. Hell, I by no means am one, but would give myself a fair stab at it. Oh, and also - the base withdrawal are being took from the account without withdrawing from splitten addresses.
That brings my example down from 44kB to 22kB, that is still bad. Both for you and the network in general. I guess it's not as bad as the calculation I did, but it's also not really a response to my whole point, it's just an adjustment for what I calculated. The principle point I made still stands. In this way, we can guarantee a little bit more expensive, but also a powerful - anonymity & security.
So...all 80 BTC connected to the live servers? I asked about that in my earlier post (the first half, you might have missed it).
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August 12, 2019, 08:03:21 PM |
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We cover the Tx fee, but we send it as an little lower fees - usually they get confirmed on blockchain within 2, up to 6 blocks. - depending on.
That's today, and yesterday, and the day before. What about last week, last month? How long have you been making bitcoin transactions? And I mean daily, a huge amount of them, for customers that are waiting on you? The situation around transaction fees and block size is pretty chill right now, but it would be foolish to expect it to remain like this indefinitely. Do you have a contingency plan, for when fee averages shoot up, because the transaction load increases. For when it suddenly becomes way more expensive to consolidate your small inputs? I can't see the future, maybe we're lucky and fees stay like this or lower for a long while, however the possibility exists, and we've seen extreme fee levels in the past, so you should be prepared for them. With the current setup you are running, your service will be significantly more impacted by a rise in the fee market than most, if not all, other services. And it's already been bad for everyone else in the past. Feel free to ignore my warning, or give it some thought and consider to be prepared, rather than stumbling blindly in a crippling situation. 20,000 address setup increases anonymity at all, as all new generated addresses from funds from the players generate another address with 0.004 BTC on-board after exchanging into altcoins, & back.
Ok, how are your 20,000 addresses generated? What source of entropy did you use for them? Creating 20,000 addresses sounds like a huge task, convenience allows us to generate a batch of addresses from a single source, using hierarchical deterministic wallets. Are your 20,000 addresses fully independent addresses, or are they part of one or several HD wallets? It's just too easy to know the source of funds on BTC address, if they came from gambling. - for ex. look at the Bitsler. Move to the wallet address into which funds from address X was sent, then into wallet address Y, which is a cold-wallet. You can easily identify the source of funds by this, for ex. as i given.
It's a cost/benefit calculation to make, and imho, yours doesn't come out on the benefit side of things. I would also suspect that it isn't that hard to identify funds that come from your service. Harder than when not doing any of the things you do, for sure, but not hard enough, and certainly not impossible. I'd wager a skilled blockchain detective can unmask your whole setup with little to no work. Hell, I by no means am one, but would give myself a fair stab at it. Oh, and also - the base withdrawal are being took from the account without withdrawing from splitten addresses.
That brings my example down from 44kB to 22kB, that is still bad. Both for you and the network in general. I guess it's not as bad as the calculation I did, but it's also not really a response to my whole point, it's just an adjustment for what I calculated. The principle point I made still stands. In this way, we can guarantee a little bit more expensive, but also a powerful - anonymity & security.
So...all 80 BTC connected to the live servers? I asked about that in my earlier post (the first half, you might have missed it). Well, all 80 BTC were connected to our cloud live servers. Talked with my DEV, and - we are going to a cold wallet. Thank you.
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using shills to promote a site is not cool especially to fail dramatically doing this , i.e. posting from the wrong account , if you cannot even manage two bitcointalk accounts , how can you manage a site ? as Lutpin already mentioned, building trust is a long process , we all make mistakes at some point , hope you learn from them and take care of your marketing the right way the site could do with the description of the games you are offering ( which is just one at the moment )
don't know why you decided that another crash aka limbo game would be popular , there are literally dozens of sites offering it , among other games *shrugs* read your TOS , the weirdest Iframes term , this means that the site cannot be promoted at any PTC or banner popup sites since they open a timer in an iFrame like shooting yourself in the foot here for no reason , some other questionable things , take underage accounts for example: how are you going to determine if it is an underage account if you declare no KYC in your terms ,found several typos too : it is a self exclusion not an self exclusion in any case , a new site is a new site , lets see what happens in a month's time from now
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August 13, 2019, 05:57:08 PM |
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using shills to promote a site is not cool especially to fail dramatically doing this , i.e. posting from the wrong account , if you cannot even manage two bitcointalk accounts , how can you manage a site ? as Lutpin already mentioned, building trust is a long process , we all make mistakes at some point , hope you learn from them and take care of your marketing the right way the site could do with the description of the games you are offering ( which is just one at the moment )
don't know why you decided that another crash aka limbo game would be popular , there are literally dozens of sites offering it , among other games *shrugs* read your TOS , the weirdest Iframes term , this means that the site cannot be promoted at any PTC or banner popup sites since they open a timer in an iFrame like shooting yourself in the foot here for no reason , some other questionable things , take underage accounts for example: how are you going to determine if it is an underage account if you declare no KYC in your terms ,found several typos too : it is a self exclusion not an self exclusion in any case , a new site is a new site , lets see what happens in a month's time from now
Fixed our ToS as well. Have fun.
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