It's not a job

[Coyster]

It's far from new to see a post/reply which culminates or summarizes this fact: "Trading full time or full time "bounties"(no real life job)".
Posts/replies such as the aforementioned go miles in misleading newbies, they are hence either hell bent on spamming the forum through bounties or forsaking real life skills to engage in trading. Such acts which in the long run poses an enormous threat to their financial development(situation)

What do you take the forum as?, a work place, a leisure centre, an education arena etc, every newbie needs to question him or herself on this.
If you take the forum as a job you need to change that mindset, or else you'll simply be struggling between meeting up with bounty requirements, you'll find it extremely difficult to read threads you do not wish to comment on(which is useful in garnering knowledge), you will simply make the required number of posts and off you go till next weeks task.
This sort of back and forth activity would lead to you gaining no knowledge, never ranking high up and miss out on discussions that matter.

The most appropriate thing to do is to get yourself a job in real life, and not depend totally on either earnings through the forum or trading.
Failure in trading when you have a real job that pays you isn't as fatal as it is when your do not, it's a blatant truth.
If you're on a bounty, it's not a license to spam the forum or limit yourself to only the specific boards for the campaign, explore your horizon, Join in discussions,read without always commenting, and in no time you'll see that you'll no longer struggle to meet up with your weekly post, and even if you don't, it's fine, it's not a job afterall.

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[Ryutaro]

Indeed, we can clearly see that many peoples have taken bounties as a full-time job and they're spamming dozens of threads with their promoting/translation services without even looking or cheeking the project they're promoting. the point that you have made is very important, many of us are fascinated by the fact that many members are earning money from the forum and we want to quickly jump on the train and get a fast revenue and completely forgetting about the harm we can cause to the forum image by such acts or the amount of important knowledge we're ignoring that we can get here for free and which will eventually help us grab some beautiful littles bitcoins XD but that only should come as a natural result, not as a goal.

This sort of back and forth activity would lead to you gaining 0 knowledge, never ranking high up and miss out on discussions that matter.

a proper approach should only think about this place as an education arena as you said. Looking forward to members opinions on this issue.

[Kamog]

This forum is for gaining knowledge and getting assistance/solutions to cryptocurrency related issues the bounty hunting is just a minor aspect of it and anyone taking bounty hunting as a full time job is probably a newbie and will find a real job when he/she finds out that most projects are scam.

Bounty Hunters should also make research about a project before promoting it.

[hd49728]

This Welcome message from theymos makes sense. The forum is not an ATM, and users should not abuse it without any kind of contributions.

However, if your attempts to make money conflict with the forum's primary goal of enabling discussion, then you are swimming upstream, and you will not be sucessful in the end.

If you view the forum as some sort of "job" where you complete some basic tasks and get paid, then you will almost certainly be disappointed, and the forum administration will not be sympathetic. If you do make money using the forum, then it will be through innovation and entrepreneurship, not any sort of mindless busywork.

[mk4]

The most appropriate thing to do is to get yourself a job in real life, and not depend totally on either earnings through the forum or trading.

This is what I also frequently say to those people who for some reason quit their job to focus on "bounties". Trading is another thing, but you really don't gain any sort of "experience" with bounties. Sure, you probably learn a bit when you read and post a lot, but I've always suggested people to sticking with improving their marketable skills. While doing bounties, It'd be great to learn a great modern skill like programming on the side. Just so they have something to fall under if ever bitcoin does a nosedrive.

[Coyster]

Bounty Hunters should also make research about a project before promoting it.

Other than the risk of promoting a scam project, they need to promote the project with some sort of decency that would attract people to want to click on their signatures.
If the need ever arises for me to use a bitcoin mixer, I'll not think twice to use chipmixer, the amount of good posters on that campaign is enormous,and they promote the project/company in "good light", and it's somewhat a sign the company itself does a good job.

Just so they have something to fall under if ever bitcoin does a nosedrive.

We've moved from 3500 to 13000 in a matter of months, if it were to be ones only source of income, you must be driven into FUD and panic sales, and would miss out gaining big returns.
Newbies/bounty hunters need to learn this

[playboy654]

People made millions from bounties in 2017 but now everything changed and bounties are no longer paying anything useful for the bounty hunters so they already started to realize that bounty is not a permanent thing.

Newbie were misguided while they are registering here so if we can ban newbies from posting on bounties section can make a huge changes on forum use.

[hd49728]

Bounty hunters (most of them) only bring their shitshows to the forum; and they treat and use the forum as a free landfill for their shitposts (Proof of authentications, ie.). There is at least one another reason, beyond The forum, is scam projects nowadays mostly fail to scam investors, hence they turn into scam bounty hunters. Changes in the forum (merit system, rank requirements, demotion on Old-era Junior Members whom did not earn at least one merit) are others contributive factors. All of them, making the forum become as one of its toughest versions for bounty hunters over its ten-year history.

[mk4]

Just so they have something to fall under if ever bitcoin does a nosedrive.

We've moved from 3500 to 13000 in a matter of months, if it were to be ones only source of income, you must be driven into FUD and panic sales, and would miss out gaining big returns.
Newbies/bounty hunters need to learn this

Regardless if they're more vulnerable to FUD or not, having bounties to be your only source of income is still not a good position to be in. You'd pretty much need to trust that these two things will be fine in the long term:

1. bitcoin's price: if it does a nosedive for whatever reason and they're still holding most on bitcoin or cryptocurrencies, then you're screwed.
2. Bitcointalk: if Bitcointalk closes for some whatever reason, then you're screwed.

Having bounties as a income is great. But it shouldn't be their sole income.

[gentlemand]

This is what I also frequently say to those people who for some reason quit their job to focus on "bounties". Trading is another thing, but you really don't gain any sort of "experience" with bounties. Sure, you probably learn a bit when you read and post a lot, but I've always suggested people to sticking with improving their marketable skills. While doing bounties, It'd be great to learn a great modern skill like programming on the side. Just so they have something to fall under if ever bitcoin does a nosedrive.

It's easy to forget that many people on here are in countries with either no jobs or pitifully paid jobs. If I were rotting in some backwater the opportunities available here would look extremely compelling. There are no barriers to entry. You can operate from anywhere in your own time.

I don''t blame such people at all. I'd do the same. I do wish they spouted less shite. If you do decide to go all in then you're a fool if you don't plan for whatever you're milking to come to an abrupt halt, or in the case of 'bounties' the whole lot turns out to be worthless.

If I were in such a position I would work on becoming a worthwhile and valued member first and then opportunities may arrive. Hammering it from the off is probably going to lead to oblivion.

[mk4]

It's easy to forget that many people on here are in countries with either no jobs or pitifully paid jobs. If I were rotting in some backwater the opportunities available here would look extremely compelling. There are no barriers to entry. You can operate from anywhere in your own time.

I don''t blame such people at all. I'd do the same. I do wish they spouted less shite. If you do decide to go all in then you're a fool if you don't plan for whatever you're milking to come to an abrupt halt, or in the case of 'bounties' the whole lot turns out to be worthless.

If I were in such a position I would work on becoming a worthwhile and valued member first and then opportunities may arrive. Hammering it from the off is probably going to lead to oblivion.

Of course! I'd definitely do the same. More income by being relaxed and posting on forums than to have a typical day job? Would be a no brainer. It's just that I'm quite concerned on the posts I've read(especially in late 2017) about people leaving their jobs for bounties. It's safe to assume that a lot of those who quit their job for shitcoin bounties and airdrops made a really bad move of leaving their jobs. Bull markets blinds some people I guess.

[gentlemand]

Of course! I'd definitely do the same. More income by being relaxed and posting on forums than to have a typical day job? Would be a no brainer. It's just that I'm quite concerned on the posts I've read(especially in late 2017) about people leaving their jobs for bounties. It's safe to assume that a lot of those who quit their job for shitcoin bounties and airdrops made a really bad move of leaving their jobs. Bull markets blinds some people I guess.

Aye. I remember the same. I'd hope that most are clueless and didn't care or understand what they were involved in and so they insta dumped. It's the ones who hung on hoping for a payday that never comes who'll be up shit creek.

Even if you had insta dumped pickings would now be extremely slim to non existent.

If they'd put effort into building a non zombie account they could've ridden it out in a decent campaign. In some places $50 a week gets the job done. I doubt most could be bothered to think that far ahead though.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

The most appropriate thing to do is to get yourself a job in real life, and not depend totally on either earnings through the forum or trading.

Hope you do understand trading can be considered as a career path. We do have professional traders outside the space but I don't have any idea how popular they're in the crypto industry (speaking of professional traders) although that doesn't mean you can't make a living trading cryptocurrency. The different aren't that much but you first have to equiped yourself & learn the required skill.

While bounty hunting shouldn't be considered as a job, trading on the other hand can be considered as a job if you do it rightly. Now when i speak of trading, I'm not speaking of the average trading instead professional trading.

[gentlemand]

Hope you do understand trading can be considered as a career path. We do have professional traders outside the space but I don't have any idea how popular they're in the crypto industry (speaking of professional traders) although that doesn't mean you can't make a living trading cryptocurrency. The different aren't that much but you first have to equiped yourself & learn the required skill.

While bounty hunting shouldn't be considered as a job, trading on the other hand can be considered as a job if you do it rightly. Now when i speak of trading, I'm not speaking of the average trading instead professional trading.

I'd be truly amazed if 1-5% of the people on here who claimed they were becoming full time traders had anything more than a pot to piss in after a handful of months. Those who are on here boasting about their prowess are likely posting from a public library before going back to their sewer for the night.

The average human simply does not have the wiring to make a success of it. At least shitposting doesn't require risk management or analysis.

[mk4]

I'd be truly amazed if 1-5% of the people on here who claimed they were becoming full time traders had anything more than a pot to piss in after a handful of months. Those who are on here boasting about their prowess are likely posting from a public library before going back to their sewer for the night.

The average human simply does not have the wiring to make a success of it. At least shitposting doesn't require risk management or analysis.

This. There are just SO much self-proclaimed expert/professional traders out there, just because they got lucky with a couple of trades by buying in on r/cryptocurrency hyped coins or listening to those pump groups. People are definitely oversimplifying and heavily underestimating the difficulty of trading is.

[xSkylarx]

This forum is really not for someone to treat as his main source of income. Having a job is really different in terms of earning and socializing in a real world. But for someone like me that has a physical condition who is not capable of working outside this forum helps me to earn some money to help pay our monthly internet bill and buy some things I want.

I live in a third world country so the amount I earn here is already enough to pay or buy the things I mentioned above.

[atliens99]

OP is a hyprocrite with a paid signature.  Don't you realize that everyone can't get a normal job in their local economy.  Online work is a real viable option for people with no way out.

[gentlemand]

Don't you realize that everyone can't get a normal job in their local economy.  Online work is a real viable option for people with no way out.

That's fair enough but others have pointed out that becoming dependent on gigs through here could wind up digging you into a serious hole if they dry up, and almost all of them have eventually. In many a case entire classes of 'opportunity' have dried up alongside an entire market.

[tukagero]

How about people from poor countries? I guess if you don't live in some developed country, but you have a computer and access to the Internet, you can still get a job. Did we know about CEO specialists or writers like 20 years ago?

you are somehow right on that , op should include people from poor countries where people cant find a good job so they are depending on bounty work.

[hatshepsut93]

Don't you realize that everyone can't get a normal job in their local economy.  Online work is a real viable option for people with no way out.

That's fair enough but others have pointed out that becoming dependent on gigs through here could wind up digging you into a serious hole if they dry up, and almost all of them have eventually. In many a case entire classes of 'opportunity' have dried up alongside an entire market.

That's why people who choose to do bounties should do them without becoming dependent on them - they should realize that sooner or later they will have to find something new, and they should be preparing for it during the spare time that they have. It should be viewed as an opportunity to pick new skills, get an education, look for real jobs, etc. Things will only be getting worse, altcoin hype of 2017 will not be repeated, and investors have learned to not buy fresh shitcoins.