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August 17, 2019, 03:52:46 PM
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But that is the whole point of the OP really. What is often stressed is that, if the forum is taken solely for the purpose of milking the cow, then it will only lead to it being a heavily spam-based place, with a reduced amount of content being otherwise. That is not the forum’s goal, so persisting in this fashion is not sustainable.

Even though we may understand that everyone needs to try to make a living in this world (understanding is not a synonym for sympathizing with the means), depending on the forum for income is a low perspective/ low effort approach. Bounties could be restricted and even ended at any point in time. There are multiple cases though of “eco-friendly” people that go after their bounties whilst providing decent enough content through their posts, with no need to spam during the process.

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August 17, 2019, 05:55:36 PM
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I dont understand why you are advising newbies to get a real life job instead of trading,would have been better if you are talking about bounties because many bounty projects are scam but trading is another thing entirely,once you know your way around trading you will make more than getting a real life job,the situations of every countries is different and its hard to find real life jobs in some,can you cope with real life job that pay you 80$ in a month by been a full time teacher in a school,working from 7:30am to 5pm on mondays to fridays? Pls reply

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August 17, 2019, 07:10:10 PM
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What do you take the forum as?, a work place, a leisure centre, an education arena etc, every newbie needs to question him or herself on this.
If you take the forum as a job you need to change that mindset, or else you'll simply be struggling between meeting up with bounty requirements,

Agree, too many newbies in Bitcoin/forum world try to make their living here. It was not designed like that. Its place of sharing knowledge, talking and sharing information in general. Its not job position. This forum is unique in terms of earning opportunities but there are minor thing, not any serious money (day job).
Try to enjoy forum first, then think about anything else.

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August 17, 2019, 07:49:35 PM
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In looking for a source of income one should be more interested in stability and job security. Which you cannot get here on the forum.
Yes, a lot of people profit from trading, but a lot more don't. It takes practice, mentorship and also capital to get you started up. As much as possible diversify your sources of income, but do not get heavily dependent on any source that doesn't offer much security.

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August 18, 2019, 06:32:36 AM
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What do you take the forum as?, a work place, a leisure centre, an education arena etc, every newbie needs to question him or herself on this.
If you take the forum as a job you need to change that mindset, or else you'll simply be struggling between meeting up with bounty requirements,

Agree, too many newbies in Bitcoin/forum world try to make their living here. It was not designed like that. Its place of sharing knowledge, talking and sharing information in general. Its not job position. This forum is unique in terms of earning opportunities but there are minor thing, not any serious money (day job).
Try to enjoy forum first, then think about anything else.

I know few people that quit their jobs to become day traders in 2017. But that was the time of crazy market and everyone including my grandma could profit during that bull market.They thought that after few months of trading they have skill to live purely from that.And then 2018 came, and it showed who is the real deal and who is just a overconfident noob. It takes years of learning and hard work to be successful at that, it cant be cramped in few months.
And now of course they are all back to regular jobs Cheesy
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August 20, 2019, 12:44:16 AM
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I see a different perspective with regards to this I think.

To be honest, I spend my past few months doing the requirements of my signature campaign and that is my only source of income at this moment.

Some maybe will ask "Why don't you get a realtime job??". To answer that, I earn more here than my realtime job and I don't want to be ordered by somebody (my nature) that is why I quit my job and focus here. In order to keep myself from being efficient daily, after I finish my requirements here I read books regarding financing so that I can apply it in my future.

I know that many people here are saying "Get a realtime job because bounties can be removed anytime". For me, it will come to "How will you manage your earnings here". What will you do to your earnings?? If you will use it for business then good because you invested your earnings in order to get more profit but if you will use it in non-profitable things then... you know what will happen.

What I do in my earnings here in the forum is (a) I invest some of it to the stock market (b) Saving it to build up a business in the future and (c) Holding.

I know bounty campaigns and trading is not a job but if you are living in a third world country like me, they are considered another source of income. To the bounty hunters there, don't depend your life here. It is true that bounty campaigns can be removed anytime so the best thing to do if you got a reward, invest it into different investments Smiley. Just my Opinion Cheesy

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August 20, 2019, 09:12:55 AM
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that is my only source of income at this moment.
You are so lucky to get acceptance to join one of highest-paid and long-lasting campaign.
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Some maybe will ask "Why don't you get a realtime job??". To answer that, I earn more here than my realtime job and I don't want to be ordered by somebody (my nature) that is why I quit my job and focus here.
You can feel more freely here, but in reality your expression is incorrect. You always have to satisfy requests from campaign managers and companies that hire you for their signature campaign.
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In order to keep myself from being efficient daily, after I finish my requirements here I read books regarding financing so that I can apply it in my future.
Good learning attitude, but it also means you actually have savings to live for a while without income from your works here.
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I know that many people here are saying "Get a realtime job because bounties can be removed anytime". For me, it will come to "How will you manage your earnings here"
There are so many types of works in forum, bounty or signature campaign are just one of them. Others are graphic designs (for OPs), coding, services.
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I know bounty campaigns and trading is not a job but if you are living in a third world country like me, they are considered another source of income.
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August 20, 2019, 10:26:13 AM
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What do you take the forum as?, a work place, a leisure centre, an education arena etc, every newbie needs to question him or herself on this.

I think this forum as a "Knowledge pool" where we can gain knowledge and share our knowledge to other users. I have learnt many things from this forum and also shared my knowledge to the community. If we spend some time to acquire knowledge, then we can learn a lot of things from here. If we have any doubts or queries we can ask here to get the answers from the community members. You would say that you can ask your query on Search engine and you will get the answers or details about your topic. Why will you ask your query on Bitcointalk forum? If you ask any question here, you will get answers from different people with a lot of different contents. You will get answers from those who know about that topic or those who have experienced in that topic. By this way, you can get a better information than searching.

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August 22, 2019, 06:38:01 AM
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that is my only source of income at this moment.
You are so lucky to get acceptance to join one of highest-paid and long-lasting campaign.
I think that is the main reason why I stopped working as an employee. I'm just lucky to be picked as one of the participants in a signature campaign that is running for a long time already.

I know that many people here are saying "Get a realtime job because bounties can be removed anytime". For me, it will come to "How will you manage your earnings here"
There are so many types of works in forum, bounty or signature campaign are just one of them. Others are graphic designs (for OPs), coding, services.
Signature campaign to be specific. I wish I have skills in graphics design but none Cheesy. I'm focusing on the business and investments.

I know bounty campaigns and trading is not a job but if you are living in a third world country like me, they are considered another source of income.
Admin supports good users from third-world.
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That is why I stayed here and spend most of my time here. I will be always thankful that a forum like this has been made. A place for information and at the same time, changing the lives of different people (spammers or not). Smiley

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August 22, 2019, 07:17:36 AM
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OP is a hyprocrite with a paid signature.  Don't you realize that everyone can't get a normal job in their local economy.  Online work is a real viable option for people with no way out.
OP made a lot of good points but I agree with you that online work is a real job. I don't know if OP have heard of the gig-economy already, I think bounty works falls in that industry.

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August 22, 2019, 07:55:51 AM
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I think that is the main reason why I stopped working as an employee. I'm just lucky to be picked as one of the participants in a signature campaign that is running for a long time already.
It makes sense, with your rank, 0.006 BTC per week in maximum, and at current price of bitcoin, it worths about $240 per month, that is not small money in third-world nations. In fact, you luckily chosen in good campaign but it also depends on your decision to determinantly stay with YOLOdice over time. If you jump between campaign, your luck would have been over.
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That is why I stayed here and spend most of my time here. I will be always thankful that a forum like this has been made. A place for information and at the same time, changing the lives of different people (spammers or not). Smiley
It give us a good example that forum always welcome good newbies, and good users whom don't use the forum as an available ATM and as place to dump their garbage-posts. No investment and contributions, but lots of money in return, it's not fair for forum.

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August 22, 2019, 10:38:49 AM
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I think that is the main reason why I stopped working as an employee. I'm just lucky to be picked as one of the participants in a signature campaign that is running for a long time already.

I've been in campaigns that lasted for several years that ended with absolutely no warning at all. When a good campaign ends the market will be flooded with its participants looking to join another and will likely be picked over other users.

If your campaign dying will screw your finances then you should be planning for that. It could happen any moment. I've seen people saying their pay their rent with sig campaign payments. That's nuts.

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August 22, 2019, 02:14:26 PM
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I've been in campaigns that lasted for several years that ended with absolutely no warning at all. When a good campaign ends the market will be flooded with its participants looking to join another and will likely be picked over other users.

If your campaign dying will screw your finances then you should be planning for that. It could happen any moment. I've seen people saying their pay their rent with sig campaign payments. That's nuts.
Exactly. I experienced such thing myself. I joined BitBlender campaign, in early of 2019, but in fact that campaign lasted for years. The Bitblender platform used to be one of the oldest and most reputable mixer services, but suddenly the platform shut down with short announcement, and it is a scam exit. That is life, and every good campaign has to end someday.

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August 22, 2019, 02:57:03 PM
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To be honest, most of newbies are joining this forum just for hunting from bounty/ICO's. They even do not bother to read useful topics where they could learn lot. I don't they they have tried to contribute for forum ever. Anyone should not leave his/her job due bounty or something else that related with crypto-currency. Because it would throw financial issue in near future. Its true that people's are earning from here by different way but I don't think we should fully depend on that earning.

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To be honest, most of newbies are joining this forum just for hunting from bounty/ICO's. They even do not bother to read useful topics where they could learn lot. I don't they they have tried to contribute for forum ever. Anyone should not leave his/her job due bounty or something else that related with crypto-currency. Because it would throw financial issue in near future. Its true that people's are earning from here by different way but I don't think we should fully depend on that earning.
There are some basic topics they should read: unofficial forum rules (from mprep), guides on signature campaign (from hilariousandco), and my thread
Since 2018, what did you contribute to prevent signature ads removed globally?
If they are here to get some kinds of income, they should read my thread and start to think seriously on their roles, and their contributions to help signature ads still be here, for their future income.



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August 22, 2019, 03:03:34 PM
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I think that is the main reason why I stopped working as an employee. I'm just lucky to be picked as one of the participants in a signature campaign that is running for a long time already.

I've been in campaigns that lasted for several years that ended with absolutely no warning at all. When a good campaign ends the market will be flooded with its participants looking to join another and will likely be picked over other users.

If your campaign dying will screw your finances then you should be planning for that. It could happen any moment. I've seen people saying their pay their rent with sig campaign payments. That's nuts.

People are getting fired constantly as companies move to automate more jobs, everything will end eventually.  I don't think it is nuts.


To be honest, most of newbies are joining this forum just for hunting from bounty/ICO's. They even do not bother to read useful topics where they could learn lot. I don't they they have tried to contribute for forum ever. Anyone should not leave his/her job due bounty or something else that related with crypto-currency. Because it would throw financial issue in near future. Its true that people's are earning from here by different way but I don't think we should fully depend on that earning.

Don't bullshit yourself scumbag, your here like money just like most people here, you wouldn't be posting this much without your lil paid signature you hypocrite. 
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August 22, 2019, 03:20:51 PM
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People are getting fired constantly as companies move to automate more jobs, everything will end eventually.  I don't think it is nuts.

A 'real' job should give you some notice, may give you a payout and may help you find another one. A gig on here will simply vapourise. For many that'll be fine, it's play money. If you're feeding your ten kids then it's a problem. And these things are cyclical. There may be no other avenues out there if the whole scene is quiet.

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August 22, 2019, 03:22:29 PM
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There is nothing wrong to be here and get some income, in case you contribute something to get extra income. If all guys joined forum to post "hi, thank you, nice, bump...", and get easy income, that is so weird nowadays. Not only in forum, but also on other platforms, like YouTube, there are lots of changes and people have to do more constructive and contentful things to have eligible stuffs, that in turn help them to earn income.



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August 22, 2019, 03:48:36 PM
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People are getting fired constantly as companies move to automate more jobs, everything will end eventually.  I don't think it is nuts.

A 'real' job should give you some notice, may give you a payout and may help you find another one. A gig on here will simply vapourise. For many that'll be fine, it's play money. If you're feeding your ten kids then it's a problem. And these things are cyclical. There may be no other avenues out there if the whole scene is quiet.

Companies are more ruthless then ever and they see their employees as expendables, just ants on a spreadsheet.  People don't have job security anymore, this isn't the 1950s.
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August 22, 2019, 07:19:07 PM
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I've been in campaigns that lasted for several years that ended with absolutely no warning at all.
Companies are more ruthless then ever and they see their employees as expendables, just ants on a spreadsheet.  People don't have job security anymore, this isn't the 1950s.
I agree with gentlemand that campaigns can end at the most unexpected times
no contracts were signed or anything to protect campaign participants
which one do you think has a high chance of happening,
get fired the next day from work without warning or the signature campaign ends abruptly? Roll Eyes

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