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October 15, 2019, 06:24:22 AM
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in my opinion the fall of the stock market will not have much impact on the price of bitcoin. because when the stock market weakens, some stock market investors might choose to stay. or they will turn to gold investment. because in recent months gold investment has increased. maybe there is a small part that switch bitcoin investments. but I don't think that will have an impact on the price of bitcoin
Some big investors in stock market may not still consider bitcoin as their new way to do investing. It will depend on what type of investors they are but since they don't wait too long or stocks sometimes focus on companies updates that makes it less volatile. I don't think it will affect BTC in good or bad terms.
Its been a long time since bitcoin haa entered the market as well as the stock market. It never affects each other since every trader has their own way of trading, some of them wants bitcoin some of the still in the stock marker. There also have different features therefore I conclude that it doesnt affects each other.

Actually it has certain affect of the price since for sure people will pull out there fiat if there's a stock crash happens and just think of it since it's still binds since we are talking money and for sure many people will put there safety net before putting on another investments. but this will surely temporarily happens since for sure they will look on the bitcoins since it has a greater chance to pump up again just like what happen before.

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October 15, 2019, 07:57:21 AM
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I was thinking that investors would think the cryptocurrency market as an alternative to traditional investment products.
Having said that, my point was that those two markets have a reverse impact.

If the stock market goes down, then investors would start searching for alternative (more profitable) investments and turn to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.
The last days stock market crash seems that lead the market cap of the crypto market down.

Does the Stock Market has impact over the Bitcoin price?

It depends on the reason on why it crashed but most investors would shift to an alternative option. Consider yourself as an investor who just experienced after a loss in the stock market, what would be your next move? Will you consider investing into cryptocurrencies (who have high-returns for high-risk) or another alternative present in the market (i.e. gold, bonds, real estate, etc.)?

If stock market investors invest instead in cryptocurrency market, then the mass adaptation of bitcoin will increase little by little, it might affect the price of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies but not totally to the point where it can manipulate the cryptocurrency market.

In a way, the price of cryptocurrencies would be affected as a shift to an alternative investment (in this cases bitcoin) may be preferred- thus increasing the demand.

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October 15, 2019, 05:34:03 PM
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of course not they are in two different fields, so if one of them goes down or rises, then the other one doesn't get any influence, that's why it's better to save money in many places, if you fail in one place, you can succeed elsewhere.
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October 15, 2019, 10:33:08 PM
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of course not they are in two different fields, so if one of them goes down or rises, then the other one doesn't get any influence, that's why it's better to save money in many places, if you fail in one place, you can succeed elsewhere.

Fields don't matter. Money is money.

If stock market crashes hard or one fiat currency dies all of a sudden people will want to invest in something else. Bitcoin is very useful for those who want to hide their money or take it with them abroad. If a big crisis happens a lot of them will choose to buy bitcoin and run with it than carry cash. Banks will not be usueful because a big stock market crash will affect their solvency.
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October 15, 2019, 11:02:47 PM
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Stocks arent cash, they are for people with spare cash so I dont think for that reason people move away from stocks into Bitcoin.    In the spectrum of speculative assets, Bitcoin is more extreme then most stocks which means people move money from Bitcoin into a stock account on a fall.
   Theres a regular tide of expansion of assets and contraction of assets and money moves in a regular way from the most speculative to what is viewed as completely solid which is something like gold.  I've never classed Bitcoin as near to gold but in this thread question, BTC is the more risk based asset of the two.    

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October 16, 2019, 05:30:07 AM
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why not? invest foundations, investors, brokers, invest companies they all are thinking about profits.
be sure, that if they will find out that investments in crypto is more profitable and less risky then in stock market
this money flows are always in the move looking for more valuable place to be invested..
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October 16, 2019, 06:03:35 AM
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There is no relationship between the Stock and the Cryptocurrency Market because the two have different flows of investment. have risks or constraints, respectively. what affects is the condition of the world economy which can disrupt all investment instruments including stocks. cryptocurrency or exchange between currencies. so for me stocks when going up or down don't have an effect on the survival of the cryptocurrency market

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November 01, 2019, 11:14:08 AM
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of course not they are in two different fields, so if one of them goes down or rises, then the other one doesn't get any influence, that's why it's better to save money in many places, if you fail in one place, you can succeed elsewhere.
a very good solution because we all cannot predict and know the development of the cryptocurrency and its investments are many choices and are smart in taking advantage of every opportunity we will get in investing all our own choices and investments that determine and in my opinion a great risk will certainly get big profit too
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November 01, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
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It all depends on the institutional investors - many of whom borrow to invest in stocks.

Say you have a hedge fund that owns some bitcoins and has also borrowed to invest in stocks. The stock market tanks and the hedge fund experiences margin calls. They then sell anything liquid to meet those margin calls - and bitcoin is pretty liquid in that you can find a buyer in seconds. Of course that in turn tanks the bitcoin price.

Most correlations that you see between stocks, bonds, gold and bitcoin is down to forced selling due to margin calls in one sector impacting other sectors.

 
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November 01, 2019, 11:37:47 AM
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There is a effect but the effect is very minimal. Like what happened when the stock market in my economy crashed and it was 2017; it is also the beggining of the bearish market but the cryprocurrency market in the year 2017 was a bullish market.
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November 01, 2019, 04:05:30 PM
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I was thinking that investors would think the cryptocurrency market as an alternative to traditional investment products.
Having said that, my point was that those two markets have a reverse impact.

If the stock market goes down, then investors would start searching for alternative (more profitable) investments and turn to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.
The last days stock market crash seems that lead the market cap of the crypto market down.

Does the Stock Market has impact over the Bitcoin price?

For me, ye, when the stock market crash, some investors will find new alternative investments. But before you invest, you conducted a study, analysis, and get some knowledge about the thing that you will spend. So if you are an investor that wants a safer path, bitcoin is not for you because bitcoin's price is very fluctuating, and it's precarious. Also, in trading/ market, the demand/ volume is essential to decide that the price rate will be. Smiley
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November 02, 2019, 01:00:59 AM
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Iam a bit Confused, because I don't think they are related to each other , even stock market crash , it will make no effect to bitcoin and vice versa,except :
1. bitcoin has been registered on stock Market.
2. people from Stock Market move away to crypto Market

There is a effect but the effect is very minimal. Like what happened when the stock market in my economy crashed and it was 2017; it is also the beggining of the bearish market but the cryprocurrency market in the year 2017 was a bullish market.

yes , that because people move away from stock market , and for reminding, on that time , there a lot of money loundrying cases.

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November 02, 2019, 01:31:29 AM
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I know there is no crypto impact on the stock market. It may be that the stock market is bad as it is often a bad cryptocurrency.
The stock market is downright indeed the project was having problems and investors went from there. And choosing a cryptocurrency as a new investment alternative.

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November 02, 2019, 02:21:10 AM
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Stock market investment and Crypto currency investment are different platform, process and commodities therefore it will not affect Bitcoin if ever stocks will crash. Except if the stock market investors will always look for alternative investments then it will benefit crypto because they could easily shift to Bitcoin increasing the users and investors of it.
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of course not they are in two different fields, so if one of them goes down or rises, then the other one doesn't get any influence, that's why it's better to save money in many places, if you fail in one place, you can succeed elsewhere.
For some shares that are tied to bitcoin in my opinion will have an effect on the crypto market. it cannot be denied anymore that indeed the world economy and the policies of large countries like America and China can influence the condition of the cryptocurrency market. the country has quite an effect on the market and it has been proven

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November 02, 2019, 03:17:58 AM
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I was thinking that investors would think the cryptocurrency market as an alternative to traditional investment products.
Having said that, my point was that those two markets have a reverse impact.

If the stock market goes down, then investors would start searching for alternative (more profitable) investments and turn to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.
The last days stock market crash seems that lead the market cap of the crypto market down.

Does the Stock Market has impact over the Bitcoin price?
Yes, they have both alternatives. However, when a stock market dumps especially dow jones, in my own obserbations the cryptocurrency dumps as well. While in times when bitcoin pumps no matter what the state of stock market is it is still making its own way. To conclude and give my final thought they are correlated with each other when big crash occurs it depends in each market what is the current state of the trend.
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November 02, 2019, 03:30:54 AM
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I think bitcoin and stocks are two different investment tools. bitcoin is a cryptocurrrency whose price increases and decreases are affected by demand and supply. and these requests and offers can be influenced by news about bitcoin or FUD. while shares are securities that are traded by a company. Stocks are strongly influenced by the profits of the company invested. so when the stock market crashes I don't think it will impact the price of bitcoin.

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November 02, 2019, 03:49:12 AM
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This reminded me of how I started investing into crypto currencies and a good example of how a stock market can affect bitcoin and other alternatives. I used to live with my friends and relatives in a big villa. We were all into stock market. We were doing good before then. And then came late 2016 and our local stock market went heavy bearish for months. Dumps were huge as western investors withdrew due to our nation's new administration favoring the Chinese and Russian bloc. Me and my gang went for other investment alternatives like forex and real estate. Some of us discovered then low capitalized crypto market. And I was one of the lucky guys that became deeply entrenched with it.         

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November 02, 2019, 04:53:18 AM
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As you said, where market logic is when the stock market is in crash, investors will switch to other investments. Where the investment can at least secure the value of their money. From what I know the type of stock investor is more interested in security than risk, so the gold market is more preferred.

The effects of the stock market there must be, whether it's good or bad. This depends on how the investor behaves.

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November 02, 2019, 05:14:14 AM
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Stock market investment and Crypto currency investment are different platform, process and commodities therefore it will not affect Bitcoin if ever stocks will crash. Except if the stock market investors will always look for alternative investments then it will benefit crypto because they could easily shift to Bitcoin increasing the users and investors of it.
Indeed! From the platform to market coins to market value are very different. I  dont think that it can affect bitcoin. Its been ages everytime stock market crash it doesnt affect bitcoin same as bitcoin when bitcoin pumps the stock market is still crash when bitcoin crash stock market are still at the same situation. Many traders in cryptocurrency are not into stock market they more believes in cryptocurrency.

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