La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2024/25

[Cookdata]

I must admit that it is the correct conclusion. Real Madrid's defense this season has been problematic as we have conceded 32 goals in 33 match. This is a bad statistic in recent seasons although Benzema and several other strikers have helped us avoid many defeats. You can compare it to the previous few seasons, so I won't argue about your conclusions.

Yes, it is a very bad stats, too many conceded goals. Ancelotti must strengthen Real Madrid defense if they want to compete for the La Liga trophy in the next season. This season, Real Madrid has failed to win the trophy due to defense and attacking problems. I think it is not only about the weak defense, but Real Madrid attacking looks not play consistently as well.

The number of goals conceded I noticed too, last season when they took the trophy, the number of goals conceded wasn't more than 31 in total for the whole season but this season is already 32 and some matches are yet to be played, that shows that Real Madrid has been unserious, the last time they had something similar with this number of conceded goals were 2018/2019 and they ended in the third, they are simulating this pattern this season.

Benzema, Vinicius and Rodrygo have all had good form this season, but when our defense is in trouble, it's not going to help us in our title race this season. In the end Real Madrid had to admit defeat in the title race with Barcelona, ​​so all of that must be corrected next season.

They may have performed well, but they can't always be in good condition. Benzema often gets injured, so he can't play in some matches. This makes a problem since Real Madrid gets difficulty in scoring without Benzema. Ancelotti must try to add more top strikers for the next season.

I don't think defenders are only the problem, the forward has also relented on the goals they score. Rodrigo was fair but Vinicius and Benzema decline this season. No players come close to the number of goals Benzema had last season, even in the Champions League but look at what they are playing this season, they played as if they weren't the ones that made us proud of Spain last year.

[Pulsar77]

Real Madrid might look for making a change in the attacking line if the rumours are true. They are also one of the interested teams in Osimhen these days as it seems. If they manage to convince him to play for them then I wonder what Benzema's future would be here. In that case I don't think he can be a regular member in the centre-forward position. It depends on how quick Osimhen will adapt to the team and how good he will perform as well before anything else of course.

But while Real Madrid are going for a striker transfer they shouldn't forget about the defense as well. I think the defense line also needs some addition to strengthen the area more. They still have weaknesses there.

[kawetsriyanto]

Lewandowski has become a new idol for Barcelona fans he was able to provide quite a big thing for Barcelona progress in the midst of this club's financial crisis but his presence this season was able to bring barcelona to become the team at the forefront in the race for the Laliga trophy, 1 more match Barcelona has officially become the winner trophy laliga.

Apart from a pretty good front line, Barcelona is also supported by the most solid defense this season because they only conceded 11 goals which made their run in Laliga feel quite perfect. Lewandowski will be a player who is quite happy for what he has presented to barcelona in his first season.

Yep, he is a new idol, I assume he can replace Messi's role. Although he isn't as popular as Messi, his role is quite crucial for the success of Barcelona to win La Liga title this season.

Well, Barcelona defense becomes stronger after Xavi bought some defenders in the last transfer window. It proves that Xavi chooses the right defenders to strengthen Barcelona defense. Although they are in a crisis of financial, Xavi can sign important players to improve Barcelona performance. I appreciate what Xavi has done so far.

I really don't understand what Barcelona fans want from Lewandoski. He has 29 and 7 goals for Barcelona this season.

Barcelona fans want Lewandowski to lead Barcelona winning all the prestigious trophies. Since Barcelona failed in UCL and Europa League, they assume Lewandowski still can't perform as expected. 

[EdenHazard]

Real Madrid might look for making a change in the attacking line if the rumours are true. They are also one of the interested teams in Osimhen these days as it seems. If they manage to convince him to play for them then I wonder what Benzema's future would be here. In that case I don't think he can be a regular member in the centre-forward position. It depends on how quick Osimhen will adapt to the team and how good he will perform as well before anything else of course.

But while Real Madrid are going for a striker transfer they shouldn't forget about the defense as well. I think the defense line also needs some addition to strengthen the area more. They still have weaknesses there.

They had bellingham in serious talks currently..

To have a world class striker like osimhen is a must for real madrid as they had no other choice than benzema now , the problem is that there is a pot of clubs interested in him and the most important is that napoli stated that their player osimhen is not for sale , tough one.

[arimamib]

Real Madrid might look for making a change in the attacking line if the rumours are true. They are also one of the interested teams in Osimhen these days as it seems. If they manage to convince him to play for them then I wonder what Benzema's future would be here. In that case I don't think he can be a regular member in the centre-forward position. It depends on how quick Osimhen will adapt to the team and how good he will perform as well before anything else of course.

But while Real Madrid are going for a striker transfer they shouldn't forget about the defense as well. I think the defense line also needs some addition to strengthen the area more. They still have weaknesses there.

Of course there will be big changes up front for Real Madrid in the upcoming summer transfer window. You can see that Benzema absence will make it difficult for Real Madrid to win matches, so it seems that ancelotti or Real Madrid management will have to cover this gap in the upcoming transfer window. Some players may already be on their target list in the upcoming transfer window.

Real madrid will face manchester city in the champions league match. I'm sure real madrid will try hard to win this match at the bernabeu stadium because their chances are quite good after they won the copa del rey trophy in the previous game.

[TopT3ns]

Real Madrid might look for making a change in the attacking line if the rumours are true. They are also one of the interested teams in Osimhen these days as it seems. If they manage to convince him to play for them then I wonder what Benzema's future would be here. In that case I don't think he can be a regular member in the centre-forward position. It depends on how quick Osimhen will adapt to the team and how good he will perform as well before anything else of course.

But while Real Madrid are going for a striker transfer they shouldn't forget about the defense as well. I think the defense line also needs some addition to strengthen the area more. They still have weaknesses there.

Changes from Real Madrid really need to be made because at this time they are in a slump and often lose in every game available, so the management at Real Madrid decided to bring in an attacker who might be able to influence Real Madrid's game when on the field. Victor Osimhen is an attacker. who are very skilled, and Real Madrid already has Benzema as a midfielder who is very skilled, meaning that when these two players can work together, it will make Real Madrid shine again with the victory that will be obtained.

[shinratensei_]

Changes from Real Madrid really need to be made because at this time they are in a slump and often lose in every game available, so the management at Real Madrid decided to bring in an attacker who might be able to influence Real Madrid's game when on the field. Victor Osimhen is an attacker.

Real madrid was just losing in the match against sociedad and girona. It's still able winning against osassuna and get trophy but the performance from real madrid was not so good. Madrid really needs modric to handle mid.
Modric's role is very important for real madrid. Even though many people mocking madrid is full with old players right now but it's still showing its capability by winning any trophies since last season.

Ancelotti was also getting 6 trophy in around 1,5 years which are very good achievements.

who are very skilled, and Real Madrid already has Benzema as a midfielder who is very skilled, meaning that when these two players can work together, it will make Real Madrid shine again with the victory that will be obtained.

Benzema is striker. Osimhen expected to be the successor for benzema. real madrid is also ready to sign bellingham from dortmund.
The regeneration will happen after this season. As far as i know if modric is also extending his contract for another year with real madrid.

[Smack That Ace]

Maybe Real Madrid can't win the La Liga title this season but still they are better than Barcelona as for the success rate in the Champions League. This has got clearer in the recent years I mean. Barcelona have clearly been struggling in big games there which have blocked the way for them to reach upper rounds. This is a really serious issue for Barcelona in my opinion.
Maybe Xavi is doing well in the La Liga but the fans would like to see more than that. Xavi will need to prepare his players and strategies special to Champions League games from now on. They have a potential so they should go for it.

Comparing Real Madrid with Barcelona will never end, because forever they will remain rivals, of course, each individual has his own opinion for Real Madrid and Barcelona. So yes, I think there is no point in comparing Real Madrid to Barcelona, especially when you compare it to a different tournament. Meanwhile, if you only compare Real Madrid and Barcelona only in La Liga, I think Real Madrid still has a better record too.
But apart from all that, I personally really appreciate Xavi, because since Xavi became coach of Barcelona, in fact Barcelona has been very good for results in La Liga. Even though Xavi hasn't been able to deliver great results in Europe, but I think so far Xavi has been good enough in building Barcelona to have a very good performance in the domestic league.

The two teams are both good and strong teams,which will keep on challenging themselves on who is the best in Spain. It is very clear that Real Madrid is the most successful due to its nature and buying quality and world classic players ever since their history. This strategy has fetched them with enough trophies and respect.
Barcelona is another club that has achieved a lot in its football competitions and the have been the only club that can tell Real Madrid that, they are capable of winning the their domestic league with ease and also has the confidence to play Real Madrid in tough games. Xavi has tried his best to put the club in a good form and this season was a great victory for them in Laliga because they don't have any rival in the trophy race.

Barcelona this season was actually targeting the European competition. The target of Barcelona was the La Liga title from the start. Which was a wise decision by the coach I will say. He understood that the Champions League was a very hard competition because the best teams all around the world were going to compete in the competition.

But on the other hand in La Liga, they only have two big opponents, Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid. Barcelona was consistent enough to stay at the top of the table in the end. I believe in the next season Barcelona will also concentrate on the Champions League.

Duke Khan

[W Jr.]

Real Madrid might look for making a change in the attacking line if the rumours are true. They are also one of the interested teams in Osimhen these days as it seems. If they manage to convince him to play for them then I wonder what Benzema's future would be here. In that case I don't think he can be a regular member in the centre-forward position. It depends on how quick Osimhen will adapt to the team and how good he will perform as well before anything else of course.

But while Real Madrid are going for a striker transfer they shouldn't forget about the defense as well. I think the defense line also needs some addition to strengthen the area more. They still have weaknesses there.

Changes from Real Madrid really need to be made because at this time they are in a slump and often lose in every game available, so the management at Real Madrid decided to bring in an attacker who might be able to influence Real Madrid's game when on the field. Victor Osimhen is an attacker. who are very skilled, and Real Madrid already has Benzema as a midfielder who is very skilled, meaning that when these two players can work together, it will make Real Madrid shine again with the victory that will be obtained.

Naples President De Laurentis has said he is not considering selling Victor Osimhen this summer. If Real Madrid are considering buying him, they may have to pay a large transfer fee. I'm sure Osimhen will want to play in Real Madrid, but he has also made statements before that he wants to play in the EPL.

[mamesso]

Changes from Real Madrid really need to be made because at this time they are in a slump and often lose in every game available, so the management at Real Madrid decided to bring in an attacker who might be able to influence Real Madrid's game when on the field. Victor Osimhen is an attacker. who are very skilled, and Real Madrid already has Benzema as a midfielder who is very skilled, meaning that when these two players can work together, it will make Real Madrid shine again with the victory that will be obtained.

Naples President De Laurentis has said he is not considering selling Victor Osimhen this summer. If Real Madrid are considering buying him, they may have to pay a large transfer fee. I'm sure Osimhen will want to play in Real Madrid, but he has also made statements before that he wants to play in the EPL.

Real Madrid interest in Victor Osimhen is not without reason. In addition to his impressive performances this season, he is still very young. Real Madrid really needs a highly talented striker to replace Benzema who is entering old age. Victor Osimhen goal scoring instinct is considered very suitable to fill Benzema post because Real Madrid really needs a striker who can make a difference when other players cannot score.

Victor Osimhen statement that he wanted to continue his career in the EPL was only a word that came out of his mouth, Real Madrid still has the opportunity to bring Victor Osimhen to the Bernabeu as long as there is no official agreement with another club. Talented young players always have dreams of playing for bigger clubs, an offer from Real Madrid is very difficult for young players to refuse because the chance to get a trophy is easier than the club they are currently defending.

[Luzin]

Naples President De Laurentis has said he is not considering selling Victor Osimhen this summer. If Real Madrid are considering buying him, they may have to pay a large transfer fee. I'm sure Osimhen will want to play in Real Madrid, but he has also made statements before that he wants to play in the EPL.

Of course Osinhem is Napoli's mainstay player this season. He's a striker who is quite successful in bringing Napoli to date strong at the top of Serie A. No doubt if Napoli gives a very expensive price for him. In addition, Napoli has always been a team that produces great players.

I think Real Madrid should be willing to buy expensively, because their main target Haaland was also not available to them last season. So at the end of this season Madrid must start looking for a replacement for Benzema who is starting to get a lot of injuries. But they have to learn from Hazard's transfer, they failed to make Hazard have a great performance. Madrid have some task to buy new players, to regenerate. Kroos, Modric started playing from the bench and that's a sign that Anceloti is not playing them full-time.

[BALIK]

who are very skilled, and Real Madrid already has Benzema as a midfielder who is very skilled, meaning that when these two players can work together, it will make Real Madrid shine again with the victory that will be obtained.

Benzema is striker. Osimhen expected to be the successor for benzema. real madrid is also ready to sign bellingham from dortmund.
The regeneration will happen after this season. As far as i know if modric is also extending his contract for another year with real madrid.

Victor Osimhen is an excellent striker. He scored 23 goals in 28 matches in Serie A. The more important thing is that he has scored 5 goals in 6 Champions League matches. Also Victor Osimhen is only 24 years old. He can serve the Real Madrid team for a long time. If Real Madrid manages to sign Victor Osimhen then it will be a good decision for them. But I am not sure if Napoli management will decide to sell Victor Osimhen this season.

Jude Bellingham is a young midfielder. Madrid management will now have to find a replacement for Modric. Also, new players need a lot of time to adapt to the team. And so Madrid will benefit if they sign Jude Bellingham next season.

[Jody.Drummer]

Real Madrid can be concluded that this season is not the best season for them, several painful defeats prove that they are indeed in a bad state.

I must admit that it is the correct conclusion. Real Madrid's defense this season has been problematic as we have conceded 32 goals in 33 match. This is a bad statistic in recent seasons although Benzema and several other strikers have helped us avoid many defeats. You can compare it to the previous few seasons, so I won't argue about your conclusions.

Benzema, Vinicius and Rodrygo have all had good form this season, but when our defense is in trouble, it's not going to help us in our title race this season. In the end Real Madrid had to admit defeat in the title race with Barcelona, ​​so all of that must be corrected next season.

Actually talking about Benzema and the young players in Madrid, there's nothing wrong in terms of performance because indeed they always play very well it's just that the problem of injuries continues to haunt several key players like Mendy in defense who have to rest a little longer as well as the condition of Benzema, who really can't always play all the time, makes this an obstacle.
But in terms of performance when they play there is nothing wrong with that.

But I see it that way, we can see the same strategy always exhibited by Carlo Ancelotti even from the previous season. Previously they had a lot of players who were at their best level, so that helped them implement the strategy well, even though from a reading point of view, the opponent actually understood their strategy very well, but when many players have decreased in terms of performance, the opponent will take advantage of that.
Real Madrid can be concluded that this season is not the best season for them, several painful defeats prove that they are indeed in a bad state.

There is still a logical error because why could Real Madrid win against Barcelona 4-0 when you are saying that Real Madrid's performance decreases and their opponents were able to read their strategy? It doesn't matter what your strategy is and whether your opponent can read it, it matters how you carry it out and how mentally strong you are.

When Barcelona played tiki taka 10 years ago, all their opponents knew that they would play tiki taka and yet it was almost impossible to stop them because they took it to perfection.

Real Madrid plays the same most of the time, but they seem to have had a weak focus in La Liga games whereas in the Champions League they carried out their strategy at a higher level of concentration. The same goes for the Copa del Rey.

I think it makes most sense to now see how they are going to deal with Manchester City. We'll know more afterwards.

It would be great if indeed they had the same strength condition, it's just that in this case the conditions are clearly a little different from how they have fitness problems for some of their core players.
The scheme read almost completely in one game, on the other hand their players had problems with recurring injuries obviously this made them a little more lost in momentum of course.

Now their hope after the Copa del Rey is the Champions League. This is definitely worth watching, especially since both teams want the same result and of course these two teams are also very good and big teams.

[laurenB7742]

Atletico madrid team has took over real madrid spot and they are now on the second position and seeing their upcoming game i don't think the standing will change both of them are expected to win, real madrid will face at home getafe who are on the relegation zone and atletico will face elche the last team on the standings so i expect an easy win for both teams.

Atletico Madrid has increased their performance, which it will give them boldness to face Elche and defeat them 2-1 in their next match because their coach has done a lot of work that will help them to maintain that second position for people to believe that they have something special to achieve in this season. I don't think, Real Madrid will win their next match because their performance has reduced compared to the beginning of this tournament that made many people to believed that they will win this la Liga league title, but few matches they started reducing points that gave others team opportunity to took first and second position from them.

Perhaps for the first time this season, Atletico Madrid managed to occupy the second place in the points table. I was very surprised by Atletico Madrid's performance against Cadiz. Atletico Madrid scored 5 goals in this match. At the beginning of the season, Atlético Madrid's performance was quite poor and erratic. If the team's performance at the start of the season had continued, they could still be in contention with Barcelona for the title. But now Atletico Madrid are playing only to secure the second place in the points table. But Atletico Madrid are now in a much stronger position. If they continue this form next season, they could challenge Real Madrid and Barcelona for the La Liga title.

Atlético Madrid must be praised. Because they have gripped La Liga very tightly. As a result, every match now Atlético Madrid is playing very carefully and trying to secure victory. This team is currently in the second place in the points table. I think this team will not want to miss any more opportunities so they will play every match responsibly going forward.

As Atletico Madrid is in good form now, the Real Madrid team on the other hand has their full attention now. And so Madrid has no interest in performing very well in La Liga matches. And this is why it is easy for Atlético Madrid to occupy the second place in the table. But Atletico Madrid is now a strong enough team. They will be looking to finish the season in second place in the table. Because and next season they will try to strengthen the team. And Atletico Madrid will fight for the title.

[reagansimms]

As Atletico Madrid is in good form now, the Real Madrid team on the other hand has their full attention now. And so Madrid has no interest in performing very well in La Liga matches. And this is why it is easy for Atlético Madrid to occupy the second place in the table. But Atletico Madrid is now a strong enough team. They will be looking to finish the season in second place in the table. Because and next season they will try to strengthen the team. And Atletico Madrid will fight for the title.

Based on the points already collected, Real Madrid needs two more points to secure a ticket to the Champions League next season. Two additional points Real Madrid can no longer be chased by Villarreal, which is in fifth place. La Liga is no longer a priority for Real Madrid because currently Real Madrid is more focused on facing Manchester City in the Champions League.

The loss of second place that Atletico Madrid recently took has not had much effect on Real Madrid, they are trying to work out a strategy to face Manchester City in the first leg of the UCL. Atletico improved a bit towards the end of the season, the improvements experienced by Atletico gave guarantees for Simeone to continue his career as Atletico coach after being doubted at the start of the season due to Atletico performance below expectations. Strengthening the team is always a priority, Atletico can break the dominance of Barcelona and Real Madrid as long as they can perform optimally throughout the season.

[len01]

As Atletico Madrid is in good form now, the Real Madrid team on the other hand has their full attention now. And so Madrid has no interest in performing very well in La Liga matches. And this is why it is easy for Atlético Madrid to occupy the second place in the table. But Atletico Madrid is now a strong enough team. They will be looking to finish the season in second place in the table. Because and next season they will try to strengthen the team. And Atletico Madrid will fight for the title.

Based on the points already collected, Real Madrid needs two more points to secure a ticket to the Champions League next season. Two additional points Real Madrid can no longer be chased by Villarreal, which is in fifth place. La Liga is no longer a priority for Real Madrid because currently Real Madrid is more focused on facing Manchester City in the Champions League.

The loss of second place that Atletico Madrid recently took has not had much effect on Real Madrid, they are trying to work out a strategy to face Manchester City in the first leg of the UCL. Atletico improved a bit towards the end of the season, the improvements experienced by Atletico gave guarantees for Simeone to continue his career as Atletico coach after being doubted at the start of the season due to Atletico performance below expectations. Strengthening the team is always a priority, Atletico can break the dominance of Barcelona and Real Madrid as long as they can perform optimally throughout the season.

if Real Madrid wasn't focused on the UCL, I don't think Atletico Madrid would be able to take second place at this time. so it was Atletico Madrid's luck that took the opportunity when Real Madrid was planning a good strategy and formation to compete in the first leg of the UCL later.
but what you have to remember is that as strong or as good as Atletico Madrid will not be able to dominate Barcelona because Barcelona is too strong at the moment. on the other hand Barcelona also doesn't want the team under him to disturb his position and of course the Barcelona coach will always strategize to break Atletico Madrid's mentality.

[shogun47]

It would be great if indeed they had the same strength condition, it's just that in this case the conditions are clearly a little different from how they have fitness problems for some of their core players.
The scheme read almost completely in one game, on the other hand their players had problems with recurring injuries obviously this made them a little more lost in momentum of course.

Now their hope after the Copa del Rey is the Champions League. This is definitely worth watching, especially since both teams want the same result and of course these two teams are also very good and big teams.

Why do you think that? De Bruyne has been injured recently. Nathan Ake is not completely fit. All in all I believe that they are physically pretty equal. It is not like one of them has to play with 3 players being injured and 3 players being suspended for yellow cards, which has often been a big problem in the big games. I remember when Lewandowski was injured one season when he was at his best and he missed the two games against PSG and they lost it in 2021. It made the difference if such a player is missing and that is clearly not the case this time. Both teams have all of their best players available. It is at least not that bad that it could count as an excuse.

[swogerino]

It would be great if indeed they had the same strength condition, it's just that in this case the conditions are clearly a little different from how they have fitness problems for some of their core players.
The scheme read almost completely in one game, on the other hand their players had problems with recurring injuries obviously this made them a little more lost in momentum of course.

Now their hope after the Copa del Rey is the Champions League. This is definitely worth watching, especially since both teams want the same result and of course these two teams are also very good and big teams.

Why do you think that? De Bruyne has been injured recently. Nathan Ake is not completely fit. All in all I believe that they are physically pretty equal. It is not like one of them has to play with 3 players being injured and 3 players being suspended for yellow cards, which has often been a big problem in the big games. I remember when Lewandowski was injured one season when he was at his best and he missed the two games against PSG and they lost it in 2021. It made the difference if such a player is missing and that is clearly not the case this time. Both teams have all of their best players available. It is at least not that bad that it could count as an excuse.

I think the bookies know something to give Real at home 3.15 odd which is really strange and I know that even Manchester City is in a better form and most likely with better players,the bookies are clearly forgetting that when Real plays at home they have beaten much stronger teams than City and Real form was even worse than it is now,so my question,real question is,are the bookies as always trying to deceive us or do you good people here also think that Real cannot win tonight and hence the odd of 3.15?Personally I am going to bet on them to win this game,an odd of over 3 for Real at home is always worth trying.

[wmaurik]

Changes from Real Madrid really need to be made because at this time they are in a slump and often lose in every game available, so the management at Real Madrid decided to bring in an attacker who might be able to influence Real Madrid's game when on the field. Victor Osimhen is an attacker. who are very skilled, and Real Madrid already has Benzema as a midfielder who is very skilled, meaning that when these two players can work together, it will make Real Madrid shine again with the victory that will be obtained.

I don't see Real Madrid as the worst team this season even though Real Madrid have lost seven league games this season. Because in appearance and performance and the target they want to achieve this season they have also got, namely the Copa Del Rey trophy so now Real Madrid will make an even bigger target in the UCL this season even though the opponent looks very tough with Real Madrid's condition at the time.

Victor Osimhen is indeed a good player, but I also don't think that this player will be sold by Napoli next season because Napoli have also been able to win Serie A this season so the possibility of being retained by Napoli is greater. So Real Madrid will have to look for other options if they want to put one of the best players on their front lines now.

[Cookdata]

It would be great if indeed they had the same strength condition, it's just that in this case the conditions are clearly a little different from how they have fitness problems for some of their core players.
The scheme read almost completely in one game, on the other hand their players had problems with recurring injuries obviously this made them a little more lost in momentum of course.

Now their hope after the Copa del Rey is the Champions League. This is definitely worth watching, especially since both teams want the same result and of course these two teams are also very good and big teams.

Why do you think that? De Bruyne has been injured recently. Nathan Ake is not completely fit. All in all I believe that they are physically pretty equal. It is not like one of them has to play with 3 players being injured and 3 players being suspended for yellow cards, which has often been a big problem in the big games. I remember when Lewandowski was injured one season when he was at his best and he missed the two games against PSG and they lost it in 2021. It made the difference if such a player is missing and that is clearly not the case this time. Both teams have all of their best players available. It is at least not that bad that it could count as an excuse.

You are one of the few I have seen that was not biased about the Real Madrid and Manchester City match, you are neutral and that is what I expected from other Manchester City fans that have been fueling City all this while. I think De Bruyne is playing that match, no way Manchester City will want to risk that without Haaland's assist, so they managed to still slot him to assist pressure Real Madrid, that's why I'm also optimistic about Real Madrid to either win or draw.

Who knows if they will win this Leg and return back to Laliga and go back to where they sit in second place, I know they have not been consistent but they are unpredictable with their moves, especially in hot matches.