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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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May 14, 2023, 01:03:41 PM
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At the start of the season, Barcelona played badly. some of the names you mentioned, are not playing as well as they are today, especially Gavi and several other players. there are many matches that barcelona won, despite the fact that they played badly. I, as a fan, don't really enjoy when they play the game.
In the second half of the season, not so bad though they play goes ups and downs. oh yes, since Busquets was paired with De Jong, Barcelona started playing pretty well. however, for wingers, the performance of the players fluctuated. well, for the defense, I don't doubt them.

You may need to look at Barcelona's journey in La Liga this season once more especially in their 19 matches in the first half of the season. If I am not mistaken, Barcelona has only 2 draws "Rayo Vallecano and Espanyol" and 1 loss by "Real Madrid" in 19 first half matches. Then how do you say Barcelona's form was bad in the first half of the season?

Check here: https://www.livescore.com/en/football/team/barcelona/2911/results/

De Jong, Dembele, Lewandowski, Pedri and Gavi and Raphinha played well. They seem to hit it off with Xavi who is so passionate about his team. But unfortunately, Barcelona failed in the Champions League because the opponent was quite heavy. Barcelona also failed in the Europa League because of Manchester United, but next season I hope Xavi can make his dream come true.

okay, makes sense. but if you watch Barcelona match after match, you will understand. you can check, how many times Barcelona played badly but won the match. in fact, not infrequently they only scored 1 goal. I counted, there are approximately 11 games. by the way, I am a Barcelona supporter from the era of Frank Rijkard as his coach. My question is did you watch the whole match by match or just check it based on the livescore you linked. oh yeah, I also have a more accurate source of information.

For De Jong, he was rarely played due to his injury in the first half of the season. plus, at that time Xavi had not paired Busquets with De Jong as a pivot. the system that Xavi is currently implementing is different from the system at the start of the season. if you remember, how many times did Raphinha become a reserve player because his performance was unstable. that's why Xavi trusts Dembele more. which in the end, Raphinha has confidence back after Dembele suffered an injury. for Pedri, yes he is good I admit that. but for Gavi, it's more of a hasty game. After the world cup, Gavi experienced a change in the maturity of his game.

Well, to slip in the Champions League. like I said, they don't have the rhythm of the game, so it's difficult to show their best game in the competition. lost to United in the playoffs, I can understand, Barcelona played well but there were many absent players which made them fail to move on to the next phase. fatally, Xavi put Sergio Roberto in the second leg as a winger against United. I'm not sure, what was in Xavi's mind at that time. even though, he still has Ansu Fati.
At this time Barcelona almost won the League trophy, what an achievement that must be given appreciation. but if the squad is still the same next season, don't expect to be able to compete in European competitions as well as La Liga. because, Madrid will clean up. therefore, don't be surprised if Raphinha will be sold by Barcelona to bring in more ideal players.

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May 14, 2023, 01:59:31 PM
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There is an interesting game between Valladolid and Sevilla as well this evening. This is an important game for both sides actually. Because while Valladolid are trying to not get in the relegation zone Sevilla are in the fight for the 7th position mathematically. The point gap between Sevilla and Girona is only 4 now but there are 3 teams between as well so Sevilla's job is still quite difficult.

Besides they are going to play the rematch against Juventus in Spain four days later as well. Therefore maybe Mendilibar might not want to risk some of their crucial players here. I think both teams to score and Valladolid's double chance are options to think of. I don't feel like Valladolid will lose this home.
it is very possible, Valladolid is in dire need of points to get away from the relegation zone while Sevilla will not play so insistently in this match as they are preparing for an important match in the Europa League semi-final against Juventus in the second leg.

I even think about betting on Valladolid's victory in this match because it allows for huge profits, the possibility for Valladolid to win the match is still quite wide open, so I think there's nothing wrong with taking a little risk for big profits.

Just as I read your post I thought you are onto something here and while you are not wrong that Valladolid probably has a good chance to win that game because Sevilla only play at 80% or so, the bookies already took that into account. You get something around 2.25 if Valladolid wins the game. I think that is quite low. Even if I don't expect Sevilla to play their best in this game, I still do think that a draw is definitely a possibility. Winning isn't easy here, but in my opinion the odds are a little bit too low. Don't you think so?

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May 14, 2023, 02:16:03 PM
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You guys claim there is no competition in La Liga but three differnt teams have won the La Liga in the last three season. How many teams have won the EPL in the last three season?


Of course they are coming back from the collapse of last season and returning the league champions is a natural thing for now. So they tried to return to being king of Spain after being destroyed in the previous season. Adi is natural. But I thought before, with the state of player spending Barcelona have done, they would be able to talk a lot in Europe, but I was wrong. After I think about it, maybe it's not the time yet. So it looks like they need a longer process to advance to Europe. Xavi is unlikely to perform in a year this season, maybe next season. They haven't quite had the mentality after their experienced players left and retired. 

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May 14, 2023, 02:17:52 PM
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Yes, Barcelona's success this season in La Liga is 90% Real Madrid's credit. In fact, due to internal problems, Real Madrid could not perform at their usual level and Barcelona became the champion in the absence of competition. But in fact, Xavi has had terrible results in two seasons: elimination from the Champions League in the early stages plus elimination from the Europa League. This is a weak result considering how much money is spent on transfers.

Barcelona's success this season in La Liga is not due to Real Madrid's credit, Lol. Because basically, Xavi has restored Barcelona since Xavi replaced Ronald Koeman and at that time, even though Barcelona failed to win the title, but Xavi was able to restore Barcelona's performance quickly.

This season, Xavi can still continue his ability to make Barcelona consistent for good results in La Liga. With this result, Xavi really managed to restore Barcelona's best form even though it was only in La Liga and it wasn't because Real Madrid was weak. lol! Because, if you think Real Madrid is weak, then of course Real Madrid will also fail in the Champions League but in fact that is not the case.

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May 14, 2023, 02:52:40 PM
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Xavi Hernandez has had a great season with his Barcelona side and must be highly commended for his great tactical works in the club. When Barcelona signed him to become the manager of their club last two summer, very few persons believed in him to deliver good football that was lacking in the team and that is what he's done in the last few seasons of his reign.
There should be a lot of clubs that need to learn a lot from Xavi when many people don't believe in him because of Barcelona's failure in CL and being eliminated there, so Barcelona don't need to change coaches unlike what other clubs have done for example Chelsea, they are getting worse and not improving after changing coaches as well as adding new players, Barcelonna is finding his game more and more and Xavi has shown that everything needs process.

It's not that easy to make a club great in a short time so it takes time for Xavi to be able to make Barcelona more ready for CL next season, at least Barcelonna looks like they will succeed in winning the league this season  Wink

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May 14, 2023, 03:13:01 PM
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it is very possible, Valladolid is in dire need of points to get away from the relegation zone while Sevilla will not play so insistently in this match as they are preparing for an important match in the Europa League semi-final against Juventus in the second leg.

I even think about betting on Valladolid's victory in this match because it allows for huge profits, the possibility for Valladolid to win the match is still quite wide open, so I think there's nothing wrong with taking a little risk for big profits.
Valladolid has suffered three successive defeats in the previous three matches in La Liga and they are not safe in the relegation zone, but I see Sevilla's chances of much greater in this match, considering that Sevilla also needs points to improve their position in the standings, although many people think They will try to rotate players to face Juventus in the second round of the European League semifinals.

I will try to bet for Sevilla's victory because so far the consistency of Sevilla is far better than Valladolid, so it will be quite risky to take the opportunity to bet for them. If you want to play safe this time, maybe trying to put the series in betting is much better and I don't see Sevilla will experience defeat in this match.

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May 14, 2023, 03:18:32 PM
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This is unbelievable as Elche who is last on the table is winning ATM who is third on the table. Elche dominated the match and the players were able to break through ATH defense with a long throw which the goalkeeper punched out but unlucky for him it was a robound from Fidel on the 41st minutes,and the goal displaced the goalkeeper who hasn't balanced yet after the punch out of the ball. If the games ends in favour of Elche it means that Real Madrid will remain on the second position on the league because Real Madrid is just a point ahead of ATM. On the other hand if ATH does a welcome back in the second half and win the match,they will take over the second position from Real Madrid. It few minutes to the second half.
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May 14, 2023, 03:31:31 PM
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This is unbelievable as Elche who is last on the table is winning ATM who is third on the table. Elche dominated the match and the players were able to break through ATH defense with a long throw which the goalkeeper punched out but unlucky for him it was a robound from Fidel on the 41st minutes,and the goal displaced the goalkeeper who hasn't balanced yet after the punch out of the ball. If the games ends in favour of Elche it means that Real Madrid will remain on the second position on the league because Real Madrid is just a point ahead of ATM. On the other hand if ATH does a welcome back in the second half and win the match,they will take over the second position from Real Madrid. It few minutes to the second half.
Elche 1-0 ATM
In my opinion, this is a bit strange, how is it possible that Atletico, who have always won by a landslide in their last few games, are now having a hard time scoring goals and they even had to concede a goal in the first half by Elche. I think maybe Atletico would have lost this game if they didn't adapt quickly in the second half?

But I'm actually pretty sure that Atletico will again overtake Real Madrid in the standings, but the problem is they need 2 goals to win this game and I think it's quite difficult if they are still under pressure. The match is still long enough, I hope Atletico can prove their mentality to win, especially since Elche is a relegation zone team that is certain not to be in La Liga next season.

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May 14, 2023, 03:38:44 PM
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This is unbelievable as Elche who is last on the table is winning ATM who is third on the table. Elche dominated the match and the players were able to break through ATH defense with a long throw which the goalkeeper punched out but unlucky for him it was a robound from Fidel on the 41st minutes,and the goal displaced the goalkeeper who hasn't balanced yet after the punch out of the ball. If the games ends in favour of Elche it means that Real Madrid will remain on the second position on the league because Real Madrid is just a point ahead of ATM. On the other hand if ATH does a welcome back in the second half and win the match,they will take over the second position from Real Madrid. It few minutes to the second half.
Elche 1-0 ATM
In my opinion, this is a bit strange, how is it possible that Atletico, who have always won by a landslide in their last few games, are now having a hard time scoring goals and they even had to concede a goal in the first half by Elche. I think maybe Atletico would have lost this game if they didn't adapt quickly in the second half?

But I'm actually pretty sure that Atletico will again overtake Real Madrid in the standings, but the problem is they need 2 goals to win this game and I think it's quite difficult if they are still under pressure. The match is still long enough, I hope Atletico can prove their mentality to win, especially since Elche is a relegation zone team that is certain not to be in La Liga next season.
I still have hope on Atletico Madrid to turn things around and win this game, 1 nil at first half is nothing in football, dont be surprise to see Atletico Madrid winning this game by 3 to  at the end, they have the team to do such magic. Elche made use of their opportunity at the first half and was lucky to win the first half.
Atletico Madrid will end the league in second position, if the win tonight it will be hard for them to allow Real Madrid to over take them,
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May 14, 2023, 03:53:34 PM
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This is unbelievable as Elche who is last on the table is winning ATM who is third on the table. Elche dominated the match and the players were able to break through ATH defense with a long throw which the goalkeeper punched out but unlucky for him it was a robound from Fidel on the 41st minutes,and the goal displaced the goalkeeper who hasn't balanced yet after the punch out of the ball. If the games ends in favour of Elche it means that Real Madrid will remain on the second position on the league because Real Madrid is just a point ahead of ATM. On the other hand if ATH does a welcome back in the second half and win the match,they will take over the second position from Real Madrid. It few minutes to the second half.
Elche 1-0 ATM
In my opinion, this is a bit strange, how is it possible that Atletico, who have always won by a landslide in their last few games, are now having a hard time scoring goals and they even had to concede a goal in the first half by Elche. I think maybe Atletico would have lost this game if they didn't adapt quickly in the second half?

But I'm actually pretty sure that Atletico will again overtake Real Madrid in the standings, but the problem is they need 2 goals to win this game and I think it's quite difficult if they are still under pressure. The match is still long enough, I hope Atletico can prove their mentality to win, especially since Elche is a relegation zone team that is certain not to be in La Liga next season.
I still have hope on Atletico Madrid to turn things around and win this game, 1 nil at first half is nothing in football, dont be surprise to see Atletico Madrid winning this game by 3 to  at the end, they have the team to do such magic. Elche made use of their opportunity at the first half and was lucky to win the first half.
Atletico Madrid will end the league in second position, if the win tonight it will be hard for them to allow Real Madrid to over take them,

I hope the same, Atletico Madrid is not a team to lose the game against Elche, they were in second place in the table and they worked hard to take this place from Real Madrid, while Real Madrid had a bad performance and gave the chance to Atletico Madrid. even in the last minutes of the game, I hope to see Atletico Madrid score a goal and don't lose the three points.

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May 14, 2023, 04:21:28 PM
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This is unbelievable as Elche who is last on the table is winning ATM who is third on the table. Elche dominated the match and the players were able to break through ATH defense with a long throw which the goalkeeper punched out but unlucky for him it was a robound from Fidel on the 41st minutes,and the goal displaced the goalkeeper who hasn't balanced yet after the punch out of the ball. If the games ends in favour of Elche it means that Real Madrid will remain on the second position on the league because Real Madrid is just a point ahead of ATM. On the other hand if ATH does a welcome back in the second half and win the match,they will take over the second position from Real Madrid. It few minutes to the second half.
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The match is ended now. Atletico madrid was just giving points to the elche which can be considered as the worst club in la liga right now. What a surprise for me and i guess that anyone never expected if atletico madrid is losing against elche.
that's very sad that the win against atletico madrid changes nothing. Elche surprisingly can perform even better compared with atletico madrid.

many people were suffering the lose caused by they never thought that if elche will be winning the game against atletico madrid.

Elche was making real madrid gets back into the second position again. What a great game from elche.

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May 14, 2023, 04:46:51 PM
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There is an interesting game between Valladolid and Sevilla as well this evening. This is an important game for both sides actually. Because while Valladolid are trying to not get in the relegation zone Sevilla are in the fight for the 7th position mathematically. The point gap between Sevilla and Girona is only 4 now but there are 3 teams between as well so Sevilla's job is still quite difficult.

Besides they are going to play the rematch against Juventus in Spain four days later as well. Therefore maybe Mendilibar might not want to risk some of their crucial players here. I think both teams to score and Valladolid's double chance are options to think of. I don't feel like Valladolid will lose this home.
it is very possible, Valladolid is in dire need of points to get away from the relegation zone while Sevilla will not play so insistently in this match as they are preparing for an important match in the Europa League semi-final against Juventus in the second leg.

I even think about betting on Valladolid's victory in this match because it allows for huge profits, the possibility for Valladolid to win the match is still quite wide open, so I think there's nothing wrong with taking a little risk for big profits.

Just as I read your post I thought you are onto something here and while you are not wrong that Valladolid probably has a good chance to win that game because Sevilla only play at 80% or so, the bookies already took that into account. You get something around 2.25 if Valladolid wins the game. I think that is quite low. Even if I don't expect Sevilla to play their best in this game, I still do think that a draw is definitely a possibility. Winning isn't easy here, but in my opinion the odds are a little bit too low. Don't you think so?

It's possible that the host will take advantage of some radical changes in the expected lineup of Sevilla FC, but we shouldn't forget that Sevilla is very close to seventh place by only 4 points. Therefore, I think Sevilla will surprise everyone.

It's true that the match could end in a draw due to the combative nature with which the players will enter the field.Getting one point for Real Valladolid would be better than not getting any, considering that Sevilla will face the remaining matches against Real Madrid and Real Sociedad.
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May 14, 2023, 04:48:06 PM
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This is unbelievable as Elche who is last on the table is winning ATM who is third on the table. Elche dominated the match and the players were able to break through ATH defense with a long throw which the goalkeeper punched out but unlucky for him it was a robound from Fidel on the 41st minutes,and the goal displaced the goalkeeper who hasn't balanced yet after the punch out of the ball. If the games ends in favour of Elche it means that Real Madrid will remain on the second position on the league because Real Madrid is just a point ahead of ATM. On the other hand if ATH does a welcome back in the second half and win the match,they will take over the second position from Real Madrid. It few minutes to the second half.
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Very unbelievable,  the same Elche that has not  been able to win  any game to get out from relegation zone was able to beat Atletico Madrid , very impressive game from . Just that their victory didn't still change anything for them  about the relegation,  they are still  in the same position. Real Madrid now have their second position back.
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May 14, 2023, 05:00:28 PM
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This is unbelievable as Elche who is last on the table is winning ATM who is third on the table. Elche dominated the match and the players were able to break through ATH defense with a long throw which the goalkeeper punched out but unlucky for him it was a robound from Fidel on the 41st minutes,and the goal displaced the goalkeeper who hasn't balanced yet after the punch out of the ball. If the games ends in favour of Elche it means that Real Madrid will remain on the second position on the league because Real Madrid is just a point ahead of ATM. On the other hand if ATH does a welcome back in the second half and win the match,they will take over the second position from Real Madrid. It few minutes to the second half.
Elche 1-0 ATM
Elche has given Real Madrid the opportunity to climb back into second place when they humiliated Atletico Madrid with a narrow score of 1-0. One goal that Elche got before the first half ended was the only goal that happened in this match, Atletico players were unable to score an equalizer in 45 minutes of the second half. This result made Atletico fail to reclaim second place from Real Madrid, which had previously successfully beaten Getafe.

In another match, Barcelona is just one step away from winning the championship, Barcelona will try to secure the La Liga trophy at Espanyol headquarters. According to one site I read, if Barcelona managed to get three points at Espanyol headquarters, they would not receive a trophy at Cornella-El Prat because the plan for celebrating their success this season would be held at their prided Camp Nou stadium.


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May 14, 2023, 05:03:54 PM
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This is unbelievable as Elche who is last on the table is winning ATM who is third on the table. Elche dominated the match and the players were able to break through ATH defense with a long throw which the goalkeeper punched out but unlucky for him it was a robound from Fidel on the 41st minutes,and the goal displaced the goalkeeper who hasn't balanced yet after the punch out of the ball. If the games ends in favour of Elche it means that Real Madrid will remain on the second position on the league because Real Madrid is just a point ahead of ATM. On the other hand if ATH does a welcome back in the second half and win the match,they will take over the second position from Real Madrid. It few minutes to the second half.
Elche 1-0 ATM
In my opinion, this is a bit strange, how is it possible that Atletico, who have always won by a landslide in their last few games, are now having a hard time scoring goals and they even had to concede a goal in the first half by Elche. I think maybe Atletico would have lost this game if they didn't adapt quickly in the second half?

But I'm actually pretty sure that Atletico will again overtake Real Madrid in the standings, but the problem is they need 2 goals to win this game and I think it's quite difficult if they are still under pressure. The match is still long enough, I hope Atletico can prove their mentality to win, especially since Elche is a relegation zone team that is certain not to be in La Liga next season.
I still have hope on Atletico Madrid to turn things around and win this game, 1 nil at first half is nothing in football, dont be surprise to see Atletico Madrid winning this game by 3 to  at the end, they have the team to do such magic. Elche made use of their opportunity at the first half and was lucky to win the first half.
Atletico Madrid will end the league in second position, if the win tonight it will be hard for them to allow Real Madrid to over take them,

Even if Real Madrid take over their place it wouldn't change anything, right. Atletico will still play in the UCL,  and still avoid threats because there is still four positions, the top four positions is the positions that many clubs in various leagues are after.
Real Madrid also doesn't seem very ambitious to take over second place because in the end they still won't be able to shift Barcelona at the top of the standings, Madrid is far more focus on appear in the Champions League because they still have opportunities there.

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The match is ended now. Atletico madrid was just giving points to the elche which can be considered as the worst club in la liga right now. What a surprise for me and i guess that anyone never expected if atletico madrid is losing against elche.
that's very sad that the win against atletico madrid changes nothing. Elche surprisingly can perform even better compared with atletico madrid.

many people were suffering the lose caused by they never thought that if elche will be winning the game against atletico madrid.

Elche was making real madrid gets back into the second position again. What a great game from elche.
I don't believe with Atletico Madrid losing from bottom standings team Elche, however this teams have relegation this season and winning three points against Atletico can't help them move out from relegation position. But this match result give advantage for the rival team Real Madrid with secure on 2nd position.

Elche helped Real Madrid keep stay on second standing position behind two points left, still has chance for Atletico returning back to 2nd standing but have waiting with Real Madrid loss points on four matches later. Seems not any compete or pressure yet with Atletico Madrid on 3rd position because gap many points from Real Sociedad and make them comfortable although loss from Elche.

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This is unbelievable as Elche who is last on the table is winning ATM who is third on the table. Elche dominated the match and the players were able to break through ATH defense with a long throw which the goalkeeper punched out but unlucky for him it was a robound from Fidel on the 41st minutes,and the goal displaced the goalkeeper who hasn't balanced yet after the punch out of the ball. If the games ends in favour of Elche it means that Real Madrid will remain on the second position on the league because Real Madrid is just a point ahead of ATM. On the other hand if ATH does a welcome back in the second half and win the match,they will take over the second position from Real Madrid. It few minutes to the second half.
Elche 1-0 ATM

The match is ended now. Atletico madrid was just giving points to the elche which can be considered as the worst club in la liga right now. What a surprise for me and i guess that anyone never expected if atletico madrid is losing against elche.
that's very sad that the win against atletico madrid changes nothing. Elche surprisingly can perform even better compared with atletico madrid.

many people were suffering the lose caused by they never thought that if elche will be winning the game against atletico madrid.

Elche was making real madrid gets back into the second position again. What a great game from elche.
A completely unthinkable result, you are right even I think no one would have thought that Elche would win this match. But the results of the match show that they can give a very disappointing result for Atletico Madrid. Once again this is football, it doesn't matter how bad a team is against a strong club, if they can perform well and with luck then victory will surely be theirs. Imagine for me the club with the worst ranking has even been relegated for sure, they can still beat the club which is now in the top 4 rankings. What a very surprising result.

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May 14, 2023, 06:04:36 PM
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The match is ended now. Atletico madrid was just giving points to the elche which can be considered as the worst club in la liga right now. What a surprise for me and i guess that anyone never expected if atletico madrid is losing against elche.
that's very sad that the win against atletico madrid changes nothing. Elche surprisingly can perform even better compared with atletico madrid.

many people were suffering the lose caused by they never thought that if elche will be winning the game against atletico madrid.

Elche was making real madrid gets back into the second position again. What a great game from elche.
I don't believe with Atletico Madrid losing from bottom standings team Elche, however this teams have relegation this season and winning three points against Atletico can't help them move out from relegation position. But this match result give advantage for the rival team Real Madrid with secure on 2nd position.

Elche helped Real Madrid keep stay on second standing position behind two points left, still has chance for Atletico returning back to 2nd standing but have waiting with Real Madrid loss points on four matches later. Seems not any compete or pressure yet with Atletico Madrid on 3rd position because gap many points from Real Sociedad and make them comfortable although loss from Elche.
This was really unexpected because basically they were quite the favorite in this match but Elche played very well in this match.
Instead of trying to survive in a match that was not really favorable for them, Elche tried to compensate with their open play.
Atletico were troubled because Elche played like they were carefree in this match and Grbick's mistake in this match was immediately punished by Fidel with a goal that sealed the victory for Elche.

Even if in this case Elche cannot qualify and definitely relegated but this is precisely what makes them play carefree, Conversely, this defeat for Atletico makes Madrid return to their proper position and this is what makes me believe that no matter how Madrid is in their performance, they will still not be separated from the top 2.

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Epic defeat for Atletico Madrid by 1 goal vs Elche, the team that was confirmed to relegate, making ATM 3rd in La Liga and allowing Real Madrid to get the second spot this round.
Barcelona will be declared champions once they win vs Espanyol tonight..
Valladolid scored a goal in the end of the first half but it was ruled out by the referee since he stopped the game just when the player shot the ball. That was a very awkward move from him. Now they are 1 goal behind Sevilla. That goal could turn the game upside down and make Valladolid safe from relegation for the next two rounds..

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Even if in this case Elche cannot qualify and definitely relegated but this is precisely what makes them play carefree, Conversely, this defeat for Atletico makes Madrid return to their proper position and this is what makes me believe that no matter how Madrid is in their performance, they will still not be separated from the top 2.
Agree with what you said in this matter because Elche really played very loosely in this match. They were not daunted by the conditions facing Atletico, who were in second place in La Liga before, instead they were very brave in organizing attacks and compensating for what Atletico did.
Atlético on the other side of the game struggled a bit and they really weren't doing too well as they were a bit intimidated by the scheme from Elche which cost them their trip this week.

The game was even in terms of possession and chances I felt and I don't know what the problem was in this regard which made Atlético seem quite bad and Elche was very good in this game.
They missed the opportunity to be in second place because Madrid got it again because of their defeat in this game.

Even if Real Madrid take over their place it wouldn't change anything, right. Atletico will still play in the UCL,  and still avoid threats because there is still four positions, the top four positions is the positions that many clubs in various leagues are after.
Real Madrid also doesn't seem very ambitious to take over second place because in the end they still won't be able to shift Barcelona at the top of the standings, Madrid is far more focus on appear in the Champions League because they still have opportunities there.
Even if it doesn't have an impact in terms of their condition being in the champions zone, it's about the prestige problem they have.
being above rivals, of course, creates a lot of confidence because it can be said that in a season when they are above their rivals it means it is better, so even if it doesn't bother them in the Champions League zone, on the other hand, self-esteem is a little tarnished, of course.

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