La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[beerlover]

We are only two days away from an Athletic Bilbao - Real Madrid game. This is a quite tough game to start the season for Real Madrid honestly. If it wasn't an away game then maybe things might have been a little easier. When we look at their head-to-head history in this stadium Real Madrid have actually been quite successful.

But as this is the first game of the season it is still difficult to predict how Real Madrid will start. Their addition of Bellingham to the team is really important as he is a very skilled young midfielder who can be regular in the starting lineup. I wonder whether we will see him in this game. I think Real Madrid will manage to win this by one goal gap.

It is difficult to judge teams by their pre-season matches, Real Madrid lost the last two games to Barcelona and Juventus, in both matches they conceded 3 goals, this is a lot, even considering that these are not official matches. Athletic played most games draws, Valverde did not make so many substitutions in these games, which means he has already decided on the starting lineup. I think that both teams will score in this match, I don’t know if Real Madrid can win, but the odds for his victory are good.

I agree that it's not smart to judge the teams like that, but at the end of the day they are showing that they are lacking a striker and it's obvious. Normally when their wingers get in, they have someone to pass to, and I mean someone that won Ballon D'or just the other year, so we could technically say that they had the greatest striker of that season, and then just one season later they do not have any striker at all.

I understand that there are some players there that can play the striker position but they are not top quality that is worthy of Real Madrid, and I think it does matter in the end. I think it's going to be important to make that distinction and not play them. So all in all, they will definitely have hard time this year.

[Distraction]

Griezmann has signed a new deal with Atletico Madrid which is a permanent one this time. He has done the right thing for himself in my opinion. 

I agree with you; Griezmann signing a permanent deal with his boyhood clubside Atletico Madrid is the best decision from this summer from the talented french forward; After the failed move to Barcelona; i am happy to see Griezmann recover his form and become even a better player.

Do you guys think Atletico Madrid can have a better season this new year?

It is a good question. This season is going to be important for especially Diego Simeone. Because he is in his last year of his contract with Atletico Madrid now. Atletico Madrid don't seem to be rushing anything to extend his contract yet. I think this shows that the board haven't been satisfied with their performance in the recent years.

Especially last season was even worse for Atletico Madrid in the Champions League. It was a horrible group stage performance. In the La Liga not much thing changed as well. They should be a team to be able to enter a title rivalry normally.

Considering all of this Simeone must find a way to improve this performance. But in my opinion Atletico Madrid will have a similar season and this will be the end of Simeone era for this team after a relationship of 10+ years.

[klidex]

Kylian Mbappe can more than make up for the kind of contribution that Benzema made. Because Kylian Mbappé is interested in coming to Real Madrid, he will play for the team with his best.

In terms of true quality, Mbappe can make the same contribution as Benzema, if he is consistent and not covered in injuries he can reach the level of Benzema in Madrid. But the latest news says that Mbappe will not go to Real Madrid this summer, Mbappe has chosen to stay until his contract expires with PSG.

On the other hand, if Madrid don't recruit new players anymore, then Ancelotti can only take advantage of the current squad. I don't think the Madrid squad doesn't lack options in attack, Joselu can rely on Ancelotti for a while.

In terms of quality, Kylian mbappe and benzema have almost the same quality, it just that their ages are different, so young talent will be superior to mbappe.
I wouldn't be surprised if this season Real madrid couldn't sign Mbappe because he was forced to stay until the season ended and also get Kylian mbappe for free.
Although there is no guarantee that the next season will go to Real madrid at least Mbappe has had discussions before waiting for one more season and if this does happen in the next season I am sure Real madrid will be stronger in LaLiga and the champions league.

[skarais]

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Conversion of footballers to areas they are not naturally gifted or trained to play in is nothing always the best decision. V. Júnior, Joselu, and Rodrygo are all good players that have quality but Madrid needs a natural number nine. All their ball possession in the preseason games against Juventus and Barcelona didn't reflect on the score line because of wasted goal chances caused by the lack of a skillful finisher. The club needs to get a good replacement for Benzema before the window closes.

Maybe Carlo Ancelotti will have to rely on the young striker Alvaro Rodriguez this season. Madrid has refused to let the young striker leave despite interest from different clubs in La Liga. The 19years attacking prodigy broke into the main team last season and performed excellently. The Uruguayan was not part of the team that traveled to the US pre-season tour, but he is highly regarded in Madrid.

Rodrygo, Vinicius, Joselu are three good strikers, but so far I don't think these three players will be able to answer many of the fans' doubts next season when Real Madrid loses Benzema. I really doubt the chances of a good title next season for Real Madrid if they don't have a pure striker.

Ancelotti can force the use of players who incidentally play in different positions such as Bellingham or Federico Valverde, but of course they will not be as comfortable playing in main positions as midfielder. Of course that is a problem for Ancelotti to sort out who currently has only one season left on his contract, but if he doesn't then I think he will go out without a title next season.

[Slow death]

today I went to place my bets for this weekend's game, I was shocked by the odd value of the real madrid game against Bilbao, in this game real madrid has an odd of @2.02, and a very high odd value knowing that the real madrid had an acceptable performance in friendly games, in the last 4 games real madrid won in 2 games and lost in two games, coming from two consecutive defeats, but they were friendly games, and their opponent Bilbao did not do well in the friendly games, having played 5 games in which he failed to win any of the 5 games, but real madrid has a big problem, I'm talking about this news:

Real Madrid goalkeeper Thibaut Courtois injured: how long is he out for? What is the injury?



How long will he be out for?

A torn ACL is an extremely complicated injury, and one that generally has a very long recovery time. Real Madrid have confirmed that the player will undergo surgery over the next few days, and his recovery period begins then.

A torn ACL can take anywhere from 6 months to a year to recover from.

source: https://en.as.com/soccer/real-madrid-goalkeeper-thibaut-courtois-injured-how-long-is-he-out-for-what-is-the-injury-n/

this is bad news for real madrid, there has already been talk that real madrid could hire de gea to replace courtois, in my opinion it would be good for real madrid to rush to hire de gea who has always been an excellent guard - networks and would be a good solution for real madrid at this time. I hope this doesn't affect the result of real madrid's first game too much, because I bet on real madrid's victory in this game against bilbao, although real madrid's attack is not so great since benzema left, i still see them with enough power to win this game

another game I bet on was barcelona's game against getafe, i also found it strange that it has a very high odd value in case barcelona wins this game, barcelona has an odd of 1.56 in case it wins this game, looking at the barcelona's performance in the last few games they had 3 consecutive victories and they were victories against strong opponents, while their opponent getafe did not manage to do well when they played against medium opponents, so I see barcelona managing to win in this game and with that value of odd, I couldn't leave this good opportunity so I bet on barcelona

[Leviathan.007]

The invasion that was carried out by the Saudi league had come to Atletico coach Diego Simione but the offer did not make him hesitate to continue to choose Atletico as his home. Diego Simeone seems to still have unfinished responsibilities including helping Atletico win La Liga again after the last time in the 20/21 season. On the other hand, Diego Simeone's failure in the important stages of the Champions League made him feel that he was not finished to complete his task as Atletico coach. It seems that for more than 10 years coaching Atletico has not made him feel bored and it's no wonder he is very happy to be in a team that gives him the feeling of comfort and loyalty he has so far.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1689517684147314690

I'm sure the offer Diego Simione got from Saudi League is much higher than what he can earn in Atletico Madrid but still, the thing about Diego Simione is his loyalty to Atletico Madrid because as you just said he is very loyal to Atletico Madrid and he is coaching this team for years.
During this time Simione had good results and I think Atletico Madrid doesn't want to lose their loyal coach even for more money.

[BITCOIN4X]

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Kylian Mbappe can more than make up for the kind of contribution that Benzema made. Because Kylian Mbappé is interested in coming to Real Madrid, he will play for the team with his best.

Of course Mbappe really deserves the status of a player who can replace Benzema's role at Real Madrid, but the problem is when will Real Madrid complete his transfer?

Real Madrid have been monitoring Mbappe's situation at PSG so far, but I don't see them moving quickly to sign the player as quickly as people would like. Mbappe's high transfer fee may be a major obstacle for Real Madrid although Mbappe has expressed his interest in joining the La Liga giants some time ago. Mbappe's transfer saga heated up at PSG after he did not want to extend his contract. Many things have been lost about him at PSG, even the Mbappe poster that was displayed at the PSG headquarters was also reported to have been removed. He's certainly good for Real Madrid, but Real Madrid haven't tried to offer PSG seriously.

[Sim_card]

There is also much other news about Neymar leaving PSG in this transfer window with his friend Messi and playing in Barcelona in the next season and returning to his team while this time he can play in Barcelona while Xavi coaching there as his former teammate surely if Neymar was in the good situation this transfer could have a good effect on Barcelona but this time Xavi is happy this hiring Neymar because now in Barcelona they have integrated team with a good relationship between players and hiring Neymar can have a negative effect and destroy this atmosphere in Barcelona.

What a coup they did, PSG certainly didnt treat these players well if they ran away: obviously money cant buy everything, not even loyalty
when a player is very happy it becomes very difficult to make him leave, you must be really incapable of managing the relationship
of cours is my opinion

Sometimes due to the way that we have presented ourselves in the society can also make one not to let anyone know that he is a gambler. Some people pretend to be what they are not and for this reason they don't want people to look down on them that they also gamble. The environment where I live,gambling is seen as normal and old family men do gamble without thinking of their prestige in the society because they see it as fun. Their families knows that they gamble and the public too,they are even proud of it.

[rahmad2nd]

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Indeed, Real Madrid needs a center forward which can be as reliable striker. Although for next 2024 Real Madrid already has a good plans, they will have a talented young players from Brazil I mean Endrick Felipe on paper could join Real Madrid in July 2024. But they still need an experienced striker, Mbappe has the possibility of joining there with a free transfer in 2024 season, if according to plan Real Madrid will become a dangerous club.

Basically, Modric and Kroos will not be at Real Madrid for long, and I think they are also lucky enough to be there working together for one more season. Moreover, they have now brought in a center player who is believed to be projected to replace the position of these 2 senior players.

I think we will all agree that one of the positions they really need right now is a center forward who can be the difference in every match. It's difficult to find someone who can replace Benzema.

Now Mbappe is a player who has been heavily linked with them, and if the deal happens, it will fill their much talked about gap.
What is strong now is their midfield, the youngsters, seniors and new signings are a promising collaboration.

Modric and Kroos are still very much needed for El Real's young squad. because after all, the experience they have will be useful for their junior colleagues, especially for midfielders. that's why, Madrid still entrusts them to stay at the Santiago Bernabeu, even if it's only for one season. however, with Ancelotti having so many options in midfield, automatically these two veteran players will not always be the main starters in every Madrid game. but it doesn't seem to be a problem for both Modric and Kroos, because they really uphold their loyalty to the club.

For the center forward position actually Madrid have many options if they want it, but they only borrow Joselu from Espanyol. isn't this a little strange, even though Madrid has very good finances even though they have poured out large funds just for Bellingham. whereas, Madrid could have brought in Osimhen. IMO, Osimhen could be an ideal choice for a centre-forward position, it could also be that Madrid brought Kane from Spurs, but they didn't do that either.
So, it is only natural that Madrid is actually waiting for Mbappe to leave after his contract period ends. with that scenario, they could get the star for free. isn't this a quite logical scenario, even if we have to speculate by borrowing Joselu.
Even so, we'll see how Madrid hasn't shown their best this season.

[ShowOff]

Modric and Kroos are still very much needed for El Real's young squad. because after all, the experience they have will be useful for their junior colleagues, especially for midfielders. that's why, Madrid still entrusts them to stay at the Santiago Bernabeu, even if it's only for one season. however, with Ancelotti having so many options in midfield, automatically these two veteran players will not always be the main starters in every Madrid game. but it doesn't seem to be a problem for both Modric and Kroos, because they really uphold their loyalty to the club.

In the end both veteran midfielders admitted that his days as important players in the Real Madrid squad would be over in a matter of seasons. It's all due to the age factor and they must be willing to lose their place as the main players when the coach starts regenerating and reducing playing time.

I agree Toni Kroos and Luka Modrić are still very much needed by Real Madrid's easy squad. They can bring a lot of motivation to young players to work hard and do their best, so they are still considered important for Real Madrid. Ancelotti is also not going to force Toni Kroos and Modric to play full-time for the rest of the season, so it seems only right that both of them will sit on the bench more than start.

[Ulven]

I said in the Bundesliga discussion thread that Harry Kane is hesitating despite the agreement between Tottenham and Bayern, but what is the reason for his hesitation. I think it is possible that Real Madrid is still involved and trying to convince Kane as well. But what would happen if Kane decided to go to Real Madrid and PSG lets Mbappe go? Wouldn't Real Madrid have trouble paying for both of them?

for Harry Kane, he might be hesitant due to a variety of reasons, such as personal considerations, aspirations for competitive advantage, or potential offers from other teams, such as Real Madrid. Given the high transfer costs and wages associated with both players, Real Madrid might have trouble affording them both if Kane were to join them and PSG were to release Mbappe. Such purchases would require careful financial planning to balance.
If Real Madrid succeeds in signing Harry Kane, it would be better than getting Mbappe. Real Madrid with Kane will achieve a lot. I hope to see Harry Kane in Real.

[Tony116]

I see the status of Guendongan who may not be able to register because Barcelona's Salary Cap is currently still tight so that it can only register 13 players. This problem occurs because there is a cooperation contract with the other party that must be reviewed. That number does not include their three new signings, namely Ilkay Guendogan, Inigo Martinez, and Oriel Romeu. Guendogan has a 3-year contract but he has a release clause if he cannot be listed in the main cast.

Barcelona needs to solve it as soon as possible. The club already sold kessie then dembele, but it's not enough. Barcelona needs to decrease its salary cap. The club needs to sell another player like fati and ferran torres. Barcelona will remain to be blocked by la liga in registering the new player until the club will able to solve the problem with its salary cap. Barcelona had no choice other than selling more players. I remember some were refusing to be sold by the club but barcelona must force them to leave from the club.
There is also another option like selling more shares of barcelona studios but this is only solving the problem for short term. Barcelona were unable to raise the money that already requested by la liga to comply with the regulation.
In result, barcelona unable to register some names now.

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/38121091/barcelona-worry-player-signing-registrations-sources

So Barcelona might end up losing three players? That is going to be absolutely terrible for Barcelona. I thought Barcelona was going to learn from their mistakes and will be able to manage their money properly. But now they were not able to do that.

Once again, they are in trouble because of financial problems. What is it with barcelona and their money management?  They should learn something from their rival Real Madrid. During the Covid situation, Real Madrid was probably the only club which was in net positive financially. barcelona should learn a thing or two from them to be honest.

[Raflesia]

Modric and Kroos are still very much needed for El Real's young squad. because after all, the experience they have will be useful for their junior colleagues, especially for midfielders. that's why, Madrid still entrusts them to stay at the Santiago Bernabeu, even if it's only for one season. however, with Ancelotti having so many options in midfield, automatically these two veteran players will not always be the main starters in every Madrid game. but it doesn't seem to be a problem for both Modric and Kroos, because they really uphold their loyalty to the club.

Both of them are still among the most vital players in Madrid and their presence will certainly add positively and I agree with what you said because although the contracts are for one season and it is possible that next season both or one of them could leave but at the moment they are still very useful for Madrid's midfield.
Since last season there have been some attempts at regeneration by Madrid but so far Modric and Kroos have been hard to replace but I still feel that this season will be a little lighter on their task as some of the younger players are still an option in this regard.
Jude and Valverde can still be pulled back as replacement options and Tchouameni has been very good but he still can't cover all the gaps when Kroos isn't playing but I think this season we will see a difference in this regard.
Modric and Kroos are legends for Madrid but now regeneration is definitely a must as they are getting older.

[lalabotax]

So far I only feel that Kylian Mbappe is a suitable striker to replace Benzema at Real Madrid. But I don't see Real Madrid really serious about wanting to sign Mbappe quickly before the 2023-2024 season starts, that will obviously make Real Madrid's chances not as good as expected.

Yes, I agree with this, Mbappe is the best choice to replace Benzema at Real Madrid. Even though many people say that Vinicius is a very talented player too, this is not enough to make Real Madrid strong and ready, especially to compete in the Champions League. .

I don't know if this is Real Madrid's strategy or what, but it's undeniable that Real Madrid's efforts are not as intense as Bayern did for Kane. Or maybe this is just a tactic because they are quite sure that Mbappe will still head to Real Madrid when his contract ends.

[imamusma]

Sometimes due to the way that we have presented ourselves in the society can also make one not to let anyone know that he is a gambler. Some people pretend to be what they are not and for this reason they don't want people to look down on them that they also gamble. The environment where I live,gambling is seen as normal and old family men do gamble without thinking of their prestige in the society because they see it as fun. Their families knows that they gamble and the public too,they are even proud of it.

Differences in culture, religion and government regulations can vary people's mindsets about gambling. In fact, I really believe that children over 18 in Europe and some country can gamble without too much prohibition from their parents, but here it is certainly different. I know that gamblers are often regarded as the scum of society in some countries, that's because of the impact when gamblers are unable to control themselves. But I don't think this is the right thread to discuss it further.


Sevilla performed so badly last season in La Liga and the Champions League, but in the end they were still able to qualify for the Champions League after winning the Europa League title. I think Sevilla really need to make a lot of changes to the quality of their team if they want to do well in La Liga and the Champions League next season.

Several new faces in the squad have been identified, including Djibril Sow, Loïc Badé and Adrian Pedrosa. Loïc Badé may not be a new name because he played for Sevilla last season on loan, but Sevilla made his contract permanent until June 2027 for 12 Million Euros. Of course, all three are expected to play as expected, but some of the players who returned after the loan period can also be retained in the squad.

[temple]

I said in the Bundesliga discussion thread that Harry Kane is hesitating despite the agreement between Tottenham and Bayern, but what is the reason for his hesitation. I think it is possible that Real Madrid is still involved and trying to convince Kane as well. But what would happen if Kane decided to go to Real Madrid and PSG lets Mbappe go? Wouldn't Real Madrid have trouble paying for both of them?

for Harry Kane, he might be hesitant due to a variety of reasons, such as personal considerations, aspirations for competitive advantage, or potential offers from other teams, such as Real Madrid. Given the high transfer costs and wages associated with both players, Real Madrid might have trouble affording them both if Kane were to join them and PSG were to release Mbappe. Such purchases would require careful financial planning to balance.
If Real Madrid succeeds in signing Harry Kane, it would be better than getting Mbappe. Real Madrid with Kane will achieve a lot. I hope to see Harry Kane in Real.

I think Real Madrid would be better with Mbappe than with Harry Kane even though I think I know what you mean, but getting Mbappe now at the age he is would mean that Real Madrid could build an offensive for a long future that is the best in the world. With Vinicius Junior and Mbappe they would be difficult to defend. But sure Harry Kane would also be a good transfer for them as he would be the perfect replacement for Benzema.

These days the clubs finance those transfer deals over several years and they pay partial sums to the selling clubs. That's what gives them some scope to also make these transfers happen that look impossible at first because of all the money that is needed.

[kawetsriyanto]

Modric and Kroos are still very much needed for El Real's young squad. because after all, the experience they have will be useful for their junior colleagues, especially for midfielders. that's why, Madrid still entrusts them to stay at the Santiago Bernabeu, even if it's only for one season. however, with Ancelotti having so many options in midfield, automatically these two veteran players will not always be the main starters in every Madrid game. but it doesn't seem to be a problem for both Modric and Kroos, because they really uphold their loyalty to the club.

Modric and Kroos are irreplaceable, they are the best duo midfielders Real Madrid ever had. But Modric is getting old, he seems rarely to play full time. While Kroos is still playing as the main player in Real Madrid. I think Modric may leave Real Madrid in the next 1-2 years, but Kross looks to stay a bit longer in Real Madrid. The young midfielders in Real Madrid sill need an experienced player to help them growing. However, I'm not sure if Modric and Kroos can stay in Real Madrid after the next 3 years.

For the center forward position actually Madrid have many options if they want it, but they only borrow Joselu from Espanyol. isn't this a little strange, even though Madrid has very good finances even though they have poured out large funds just for Bellingham. whereas, Madrid could have brought in Osimhen. IMO, Osimhen could be an ideal choice for a centre-forward position, it could also be that Madrid brought Kane from Spurs, but they didn't do that either.
So, it is only natural that Madrid is actually waiting for Mbappe to leave after his contract period ends. with that scenario, they could get the star for free. isn't this a quite logical scenario, even if we have to speculate by borrowing Joselu.

I'm also a bit confused with Real Madrid. They only signed Joselu although they need top strikers to strengthen their attacking power. It is not enough to improve the midfield line only, the attacking line must be improved too. In the last few matches, Real Madrid attacking looks not convincing, especially when they were against Barcelona. But I heard Real Madrid already got a personal agreement with Mbappe. It may be the reason why Real Madrid doesn't try to negotiate for Osimhen or Harry Kane. Real Madrid seems to wait for Mbappe in the next year and keep the number 9 for Mbappe.

[BIT-BENDER]

Sevilla performed so badly last season in La Liga and the Champions League,

Sevilla are found of performing very poorly in the UEFA champions league and doing their best to make it up in tye Europa league, last season was the same as they dropped from the UEFA champions league and got into the Europa league and had a good run which saw them beating some of Europe finest in the team of Manchester united and Juventus and then they got to the finals against all odds to face Jose Mourinho's Roma which they defeated.

I think Sevilla for a long while now has not really been a contender in the Spanish la Liga. The competition is between real Madrid and Barcelona and sometimes atletico Madrid.

But I am excited about tye opportunity Sevilla would have in Europe if they can start playing as good as they do the Europa league by doing same in the UEFA champions league

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Modric and Kroos are still very much needed for El Real's young squad. because after all, the experience they have will be useful for their junior colleagues, especially for midfielders. that's why, Madrid still entrusts them to stay at the Santiago Bernabeu, even if it's only for one season. however, with Ancelotti having so many options in midfield, automatically these two veteran players will not always be the main starters in every Madrid game. but it doesn't seem to be a problem for both Modric and Kroos, because they really uphold their loyalty to the club.

For the center forward position actually Madrid have many options if they want it, but they only borrow Joselu from Espanyol. isn't this a little strange, even though Madrid has very good finances even though they have poured out large funds just for Bellingham. whereas, Madrid could have brought in Osimhen. IMO, Osimhen could be an ideal choice for a centre-forward position, it could also be that Madrid brought Kane from Spurs, but they didn't do that either.
So, it is only natural that Madrid is actually waiting for Mbappe to leave after his contract period ends. with that scenario, they could get the star for free. isn't this a quite logical scenario, even if we have to speculate by borrowing Joselu.
Even so, we'll see how Madrid hasn't shown their best this season.

Both of them are really needed by Real Madrid in the next season, especially since several senior players have left this season, so the survival of Luka Modric and Toni Kross will provide their experience to increase confidence in the young Real Madrid squad. Like Arda Guler, who still lacks experience in dealing with big teams, of course he will need coaching from senior players such as Luka Modric and Toni Kross.

Real madrid first match in Laliga this season will be against Bilbao which will be held at the San Mames stadium. I think it was an easy game for Real madrid considering they made quite impressive improvements in the depth of their squad. Bellingham inclusion in Real Madrid squad this season will be an additional strength for them to be able to compete with Barcelona in the race for the Laliga Trophy.

[imamusma]

Sevilla performed so badly last season in La Liga and the Champions League,

Sevilla are found of performing very poorly in the UEFA champions league and doing their best to make it up in tye Europa league, last season was the same as they dropped from the UEFA champions league and got into the Europa league and had a good run which saw them beating some of Europe finest in the team of Manchester united and Juventus and then they got to the finals against all odds to face Jose Mourinho's Roma which they defeated.

I think Sevilla for a long while now has not really been a contender in the Spanish la Liga. The competition is between real Madrid and Barcelona and sometimes atletico Madrid.

But I am excited about tye opportunity Sevilla would have in Europe if they can start playing as good as they do the Europa league by doing same in the UEFA champions league

Sevilla may not be the best title contender in La Liga and Champions League, but Sevilla can provide healthy competition in the top 4. I never expected them to be that bad in La Liga last season, but they made up for it by winning the Europa League title. It was unexpected, but Sevilla are the kings of the Europa League.

Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid are the best title contenders in La Liga, but in the Champions League it seems that only Real Madrid can be expected next season. While Barcelona are not very convincing, I have little hope for them after winning the La Liga title last season.