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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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August 15, 2023, 05:39:05 AM
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Bad start to the season for Barcelona because they had to draw their first match which was actually only against medium clubs.
The two clubs each had 1 red card reward but Barcelona did not take advantage of this to create a chance to win and could only play in a draw until the match was over so it was a shame because Barcelona could only save 1 point at the start of season, whereas before we all knew that Barcelona is superior at the start of this season.
Now it is Real Madrid who has the advantage at the start of the season, it is unpredictable.

From the first match only because of the draw I doubted that Barcelona could develop more quickly and of course Xavi is now a little disappointed that the players did not play as he expected.
Hold up guys, it is too early to blame Barcelona. Obviously, we saw that the referee made some wrong calls and ignored some rough tackles against Barcelona. We should all relax and take a deep breathe. Certainly the Coach spotted out the fault in this game and would correct it. I have confidence in him and I trust his judgement too. This is just their first match, they have many more to go which I expect to see improved creativity in the attack.

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August 15, 2023, 06:08:29 AM
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Hold up guys, it is too early to blame Barcelona. Obviously, we saw that the referee made some wrong calls and ignored some rough tackles against Barcelona. We should all relax and take a deep breathe. Certainly the Coach spotted out the fault in this game and would correct it. I have confidence in him and I trust his judgement too. This is just their first match, they have many more to go which I expect to see improved creativity in the attack.
You are right that this is only the first match and Barcelona only experienced a draw, not a defeat and the next match they will try to fixed any deficiencies that occurred in the first match, of course as defending champions Barcelona do not want to give up their title just like that and their performance in the first match was quite good with a lot of the chances that were created were only the Getafe players and their goalkeeper was good enough to dispel it all.
Their second match will be against Cadiz, even this opponent is actually not much different from Getafe but with this being a home game for Barcelona they will secure 3 points.

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August 15, 2023, 06:10:54 AM
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Xavi does not feel pressured into signing Neymar as he feels that he has enough players on the wing this season. Barcelona also doesn't have the good finances to pay Neymar's high wages, so it's not because he can't afford to manage a top player like Neymar.
Barcelona has 4 wingers, it is enough for the winger position. Barcelona actually needs a striker, they only have Lewandowski in that position. I can't imagine how Xavi feels if Lewandowski gets injured. There is no other striker, it is very risky for Barcelona to face all matches in the whole season. I think Xavi needs to sign 1 striker at least. Neymar can be fit with that position, he can play as LW, SS, or CF. But Neymar already decided to move to Al Hilal.
Previously Neymar had been linked with Barcelona, PSG offered Neymar to Barcelona on loan plus a permanent purchase based on his performances while at Barcelona. Xavi, as the boss who managed Barcelona strategy, refused to return his former colleague to Barcelona, he reasoned that he did not want the harmony of the squad that had been formed to be cracked due to the arrival of Neymar.
Xavi can't keep relying on Lewandowski up front, Barcelona have had a lot of games this season. There seems to be no sign that Barcelona will be signing a new striker, at least for now. Xavi will try to take advantage of the players he already has to face the challenges this season.

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August 15, 2023, 07:10:50 AM
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Barcelona drew away to Getafe. Barcelona, who were reduced to 10 men after Rapinha's red card towards the end of the first half, played a dominant game in the first half but could not find a goal. In the second half, with both teams down to 10 men after Getafe's Mata was red carded in the 57th minute, Barcelona increased the pressure and drew in the first match of the season.
Yesterday, Atletico Madrid made a good start to the league by winning 3-1 at home. With 3 goals and 3 points, Atletico took the lead in the first week.

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August 15, 2023, 07:13:16 AM
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Previously Neymar had been linked with Barcelona, PSG offered Neymar to Barcelona on loan plus a permanent purchase based on his performances while at Barcelona. Xavi, as the boss who managed Barcelona strategy, refused to return his former colleague to Barcelona, he reasoned that he did not want the harmony of the squad that had been formed to be cracked due to the arrival of Neymar.
Xavi can't keep relying on Lewandowski up front, Barcelona have had a lot of games this season. There seems to be no sign that Barcelona will be signing a new striker, at least for now. Xavi will try to take advantage of the players he already has to face the challenges this season.
Have been unusual activities from Barcelona always missing with their target for signing, before Neymar has Lionel Messi linked will move to Barcelona after his contract over with PSG but its can't happening and Messi join Inter Miami. Before accepting al hilal offering, Neymar linked to  Barcelona and reunion with Xavi Hernandez but Al Hilal offer 90 million euro and Barcelona can't get deal with offering from PSG.

Its really big dreaming for Barcelona signing Neymar, not only has expensive payment salary but also not have enough fund for fee transfer and its difficult to sign back Neymar. I think fee transfer above 50 million never try to buy player recent Barcelona transfer activities with player free agent and they have values under 20 million euro.

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August 15, 2023, 07:14:23 AM
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Hold up guys, it is too early to blame Barcelona. Obviously, we saw that the referee made some wrong calls and ignored some rough tackles against Barcelona. We should all relax and take a deep breathe. Certainly the Coach spotted out the fault in this game and would correct it. I have confidence in him and I trust his judgement too. This is just their first match, they have many more to go which I expect to see improved creativity in the attack.

Exactly, surely as someone said (or myself) it will be a problem of athletic form. Unfortunately, a necessary and sufficient athletic preparation was not done to start in the best possible way. We will see in the coming weeks if it improves.

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August 15, 2023, 07:16:57 AM
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Quote from: Rengga Jati
Quote from: Velvet78
I would really like to watch a lovely competition between Barcelona and Real Madrid for the title this season. By the way I wonder how many more transfers Barcelona will make. Cancelo is said to be the priority for now but they might make use of a winger too after Dembele has left.
A beautiful match wrapped in high tension, El Classico is unbeatable in La Liga. But this is still a long way off, at the end of October they will only meet in La Liga. Actually not only Barcelona, but also Real Madrid. Still curious how they manage the club at the moment, after the departure of Benzema and have not yet found the most suitable replacement. Yes, Barcelona has indeed done a lot of transfers. And unfortunately in their early game, it was a little bit ugly. Not only the 0-0 draw with Getafe but also Rapinha who got a red card.

I think, Barcelona really displayed well in their first match in the la Liga league because if not the red card that came early in the first half, Barcelona would have defeat Getafe 2-0, because they were able to created good chance to score goals but Getafe goalkeeper save the ball's not to enter the goalpost. I believe, Barcelona manager will not allow what happened in this first match to happen in their next match than to ensure he make use of the right players to start the first half so that there will be early goals in the first half. There is no way Real Madrid will not miss Karim Benzema in this season in the area of attack, because he has helped Real Madrid to handle that attack very well since he joined the team that made them to achieved many titles that raise the name of the team higher.

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August 15, 2023, 07:23:00 AM
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I would really like to watch a lovely competition between Barcelona and Real Madrid for the title this season. By the way I wonder how many more transfers Barcelona will make. Cancelo is said to be the priority for now but they might make use of a winger too after Dembele has left.
A beautiful match wrapped in high tension, El Classico is unbeatable in La Liga. But this is still a long way off, at the end of October they will only meet in La Liga. Actually not only Barcelona, but also Real Madrid. Still curious how they manage the club at the moment, after the departure of Benzema and have not yet found the most suitable replacement. Yes, Barcelona has indeed done a lot of transfers. And unfortunately in their early game, it was a little bit ugly. Not only the 0-0 draw with Getafe but also Rapinha who got a red card.

I think, Barcelona really displayed well in their first match in the la Liga league because if not the red card that came early in the first half, Barcelona would have defeat Getafe 2-0, because they were able to created good chance to score goals but Getafe goalkeeper save the ball's not to enter the goalpost. I believe, Barcelona manager will not allow what happened in this first match to happen in their next match than to ensure he make use of the right players to start the first half so that there will be early goals in the first half. There is no way Real Madrid will not miss Karim Benzema in this season in the area of attack, because he has helped Real Madrid to handle that attack very well since he joined the team that made them to achieved many titles that raise the name of the team higher.
If Real Madrid wants to improve the team, the team needs a striker which is essential at the moment. Because what I understood from watching the last few matches is that Real Madrid team's scoring ability is very low. In other words, Benzema role must be taken by any player for the Real Madrid team, otherwise the team will fail to achieve many things due to the inability to score goals.


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August 15, 2023, 07:26:42 AM
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Finally, the rumors about who the injured goalkeeper will replace Courtois have received an answer and Real Madrid have announced their recruitment via their social media. He is the Chelsea keeper Kepa who is on loan for a season to replace Courtois and I think this is a pretty good signing. There were rumors that Bounou from Sevilla was Real Madrid's target, but considering that Sevilla wanted a permanent deal for Bounou, this made Real Madrid discourage him. Now Kepa will become a pillar for Real Madrid and of course his battle with Lunin for the main place will soon be carried out.
It seems that it is indeed courtuis to experience healing that takes a long time, which forces management to seek Lunin anticipation of getting injuries too, for his own Kepa according to me, it might be almost the same as the performance of Lunin, I don't think that he will be made the main keeper by Anceloti, and only Make it to be anticipated, so he does not want to buy Bounou for a long -term contract from Sevilla.
For a one -year loan to Chelsea.
But indeed this is the competition back between Kepa and Lunin even though Kepa is only a loan goalkeeper, I hope that this competition will cause healthy competition and motivate each other to issue his best performance.
Real Madrid took quick and precise steps by bringing in one more goalkeeper because after all, no team has entered the competition relying on only one goalkeeper. It will be the same risk if it happens if you don't get a replacement goalkeeper soon and Real Madrid are able to do it even if it's sudden.

On the other hand, a one-year loan makes more sense than looking for a permanent goalkeeper because next year it is clear that Courrtois will be able to strengthen Real Madrid again. Kepa and Lunin are two good goalkeepers but still there is only one place up for grabs and as for Lunin even though he has been at Real Madrid for quite some time he will definitely not waste this opportunity to earn the trust of Ancelotti.

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Finally, the rumors about who the injured goalkeeper will replace Courtois have received an answer and Real Madrid have announced their recruitment via their social media. He is the Chelsea keeper Kepa who is on loan for a season to replace Courtois and I think this is a pretty good signing. There were rumors that Bounou from Sevilla was Real Madrid's target, but considering that Sevilla wanted a permanent deal for Bounou, this made Real Madrid discourage him. Now Kepa will become a pillar for Real Madrid and of course his battle with Lunin for the main place will soon be carried out.
Kepa was linked with several clubs but in the end he agreed to a loan move by Madrid.
It is currently rumored to be a one-season loan but it is still unconfirmed whether this will be a permanent option or not.

This is clearly a breath of fresh air for Madrid because with this at least the goalkeeper's position is a little safer and not only Lunin is relied upon at this time and Kepa is actually a good option to replace Courtois who will be injured for quite a long time now.

But I don't understand with Chelsea's move now whether they are trying to find other alternatives quickly to replace Kepa.

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Atletico Madrid just met the expectations by beating Granada in the first game of the season. Keeping the score at 2-1 until the final moments was quite risky maybe but they still secured the 3-1 win by a last minute goal. Morata started the season with a goal which is a good thing for him. This should improve his self-confidence.

I always think Morata is an overrated player. But I would still like to see him proving me wrong in this season. Besides he was expected to leave the team for an Italian team this summer but it looks like there is no such thing anymore. Felix was in the subs as well so I wonder how his future will be.

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August 15, 2023, 08:28:00 AM
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Barcelona drew away to Getafe. Barcelona, who were reduced to 10 men after Rapinha's red card towards the end of the first half, played a dominant game in the first half but could not find a goal. In the second half, with both teams down to 10 men after Getafe's Mata was red carded in the 57th minute, Barcelona increased the pressure and drew in the first match of the season.
Yesterday,

Yeah, seriously, Barcelona did well in the match; they played well, but I was expecting a win from Barcelona even before Rapinha's red card. Since they gave him a red card when the first half was about to end, that is around 42 minutes, so the way they played the game, I was thinking they would win, but unfortunately the scoring did not come for them. However, for the second half, Barcelona put in more pressure against Getafe to see them succeed since even when the Getafe squad was complete, Barcelona was playing them after one of their players got that red card. They now come and be ten each squad, and still Barcelona did well because the kind of pressure they put on Getafe was much, and if someone tell me they will not score a goal, I won't believe by then.

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Atletico Madrid made a good start to the league by winning 3-1 at home. With 3 goals and 3 points, Atletico took the lead in the first week.

I knew that Granada could not score against Atletico Madrid, so I wasn't surprised that the result of the game turned out like this. However, I knew that they would do well since Atletico Madrid are at home, which made me believe that they would do all they could to see them succeed. Once again, congrats to Atletico Madrid for their great start.

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August 15, 2023, 08:30:04 AM
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If Real Madrid wants to improve the team, the team needs a striker which is essential at the moment. Because what I understood from watching the last few matches is that Real Madrid team's scoring ability is very low. In other words, Benzema role must be taken by any player for the Real Madrid team, otherwise the team will fail to achieve many things due to the inability to score goals.
It may soon be well arranged by Carlo Ancelotti for Real Madrid, because after all for the striker position must still exist even though the player will not be as good as Benzema. So Carlo Ancelotti will continue to try to fix this so that Real Madrid does not become weak this season, moreover Real Madrid's target this season is to win again in La Liga and in the UCL, although not in an easy way.

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August 15, 2023, 08:58:37 AM
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I agree with Real Madrid's striker problem. They shouldn't just continue with Rodrygo and Joselu as alternatives. I mean that Ancelotti even tried a two-forward system against Athletic Bilbao with Vinicius Jr and Rodrygo. That 4-3-1-2 formation must be an experimental choice of course. It worked in this match and Rodrygo scored a goal.

But I don't think this formula will work out most of the time. Vinicius Jr should play as a winger to be able to have a big impact on the match. In this match he couldn't score or make assist. Centre-forward isn't the best place for him.

But until signing a new centre-forward I guess Ancelotti will continue to try different things.

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August 15, 2023, 09:44:27 AM
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Getafe is a very weak team compared to Barcelona. So everyone expected Barcelona to dominate and win this match. But Barcelona can't win. Last season too we saw many times that Barcelona dropped points against relatively weaker teams.

Barcelona should have played attacking strategy in this match. I would say Xavi had tactical mistakes in the match. It is already predicted that teams like Getafe will play defensively against Barcelona and look to draw the match. If Xavi played an attacking strategy in this match, it would have been difficult for the Getafe players to consistently counter Barcelona's attacks.

I agree with you. Xavi should bring changes to Barcelona's formation. But I think Xavi is still experimenting with this team. He will be able to find a suitable formation for Barcelona in the next few matches. We hope to see a stable performance of Barcelona in the upcoming matches.
Xavi looked completely disappointed with the draw and I think he certainly really hopes to get a win in their first match. The strategy carried out by Getafe really frustrated Barcelona, it can be seen that they play aggressively and do not hesitate to play rough. This effort seems to have paid off and made Barcelona's rhythm of play not work well.

Xavi was a bit annoyed with Raphinha's behavior in this match. Raphinha has been fierce in this match. Xavi certainly does not support such behavior. If Raphinha hadn't received the red card and stayed in the squad, Barcelona might have been able to score. After Raphinha's red card, Barcelona's attacking performance slowed down a bit. And in the end, the Barcelona players could not score any goals. Xavi was disappointed with Barcelona's performance. Xavi did not want to lose points in the first match of the season. However, I hope we will see a more organized performance from Barcelona in the coming matches. Xavi will be able to solve the problems within his squad.

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August 15, 2023, 10:03:36 AM
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Barcelona drew away to Getafe. Barcelona, who were reduced to 10 men after Rapinha's red card towards the end of the first half, played a dominant game in the first half but could not find a goal. In the second half, with both teams down to 10 men after Getafe's Mata was red carded in the 57th minute, Barcelona increased the pressure and drew in the first match of the season.
Yesterday, Atletico Madrid made a good start to the league by winning 3-1 at home. With 3 goals and 3 points, Atletico took the lead in the first week.
Getafe really made a very good defensive strategy in this match. And yes, being able to hold Barcelona to a draw in the first game this season can indeed be a pretty good achievement for Getafe. But getting a draw in the first match of the season for Barcelona is bad enough. Well they did play really well. But still, Barcelona could not find a gap in Getafe's defense which made Barcelona have to give up sharing points in this match. Meanwhile, Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid both managed to get full points in the first match of the season. And Atletico Madrid did start better because they could score 3 goals in the first game. And speaking of Atletico Madrid, I am quite sad to see one talented player like J.Felix only sitting on the bench. I hope at least he can be given playing time even if only at the end of the match.

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August 15, 2023, 10:18:40 AM
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Previously Neymar had been linked with Barcelona, PSG offered Neymar to Barcelona on loan plus a permanent purchase based on his performances while at Barcelona. Xavi, as the boss who managed Barcelona strategy, refused to return his former colleague to Barcelona, he reasoned that he did not want the harmony of the squad that had been formed to be cracked due to the arrival of Neymar.
Xavi can't keep relying on Lewandowski up front, Barcelona have had a lot of games this season. There seems to be no sign that Barcelona will be signing a new striker, at least for now. Xavi will try to take advantage of the players he already has to face the challenges this season.
Have been unusual activities from Barcelona always missing with their target for signing, before Neymar has Lionel Messi linked will move to Barcelona after his contract over with PSG but its can't happening and Messi join Inter Miami. Before accepting al hilal offering, Neymar linked to  Barcelona and reunion with Xavi Hernandez but Al Hilal offer 90 million euro and Barcelona can't get deal with offering from PSG.

Its really big dreaming for Barcelona signing Neymar, not only has expensive payment salary but also not have enough fund for fee transfer and its difficult to sign back Neymar. I think fee transfer above 50 million never try to buy player recent Barcelona transfer activities with player free agent and they have values under 20 million euro.
Barcelona's current problem is finances and it's almost impossible for them to be able to re-sign Neymar and isn't that just a rumour.
With limitations and internal problems, I think the Barellana team has built very well since last season, and that has continued until this season, we can't deny that Xavi is working very well.
Now we see the Barcelona team realistically, and so far the Barcelona team has been very good (despite a draw in the first match of La Liga) and is ready to compete in La Liga and the European stage.

Barcelona management still cannot overcome their financial crisis. The club is still financially weak. If financially sound, and able to afford Neymar's high wages, Barcelona could have added Neymar to the squad again.

Ever since Xavi became Barcelona's coach, Barcelona's performance has gradually stabilized. There is no denying that he did a great job. He is an excellent coach. Last season in La Liga we saw the dominance of Barcelona. And so my expectations are high from Xavi this season too. But Barcelona was not able to play well in the first match. Xavi should be very quick to find and try to solve the team's problems. Hopefully Xavi will succeed and Barcelona will be back-to-back La Liga champions.

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August 15, 2023, 10:22:49 AM
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I agree with Real Madrid's striker problem. They shouldn't just continue with Rodrygo and Joselu as alternatives. I mean that Ancelotti even tried a two-forward system against Athletic Bilbao with Vinicius Jr and Rodrygo. That 4-3-1-2 formation must be an experimental choice of course. It worked in this match and Rodrygo scored a goal.
This strategy was implemented in the first match in La Liga against Athletic Bilbao with a 4-3-1-2 formation, where Vinicius Jr and Rodrygo were placed in front and Jude Bellingham behind them. This formation looks good for the game even though Real Madrid also has a little trouble dominating possession, but if you face a much stronger team maybe this kind of strategy is not suitable because they need Joselu as the main striker to overshadow the opponent's back line. So that the concentration of opposing defenders will be on Joselu or Vinicius Jr and Rodrygo, under these conditions, midfielders like Jude Bellingham or other midfielders can help attack to score goals.

But I don't think this formula will work out most of the time. Vinicius Jr should play as a winger to be able to have a big impact on the match. In this match he couldn't score or make assist. Centre-forward isn't the best place for him.
Vinicius Jr is actually a winger not a centre-forward and Ancelotti has never put Vinicius Jr as a centre-forward as far as I can remember, because Vinicius Jr's strength in dribbling with his left foot is very strong. Placing him in the center forward position will make him less free to dribble the ball, so that will make his position unable to do much in providing assists or scoring goals.

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August 15, 2023, 10:43:04 AM
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Vinicius Jr is actually a winger not a centre-forward and Ancelotti has never put Vinicius Jr as a centre-forward as far as I can remember, because Vinicius Jr's strength in dribbling with his left foot is very strong. Placing him in the center forward position will make him less free to dribble the ball, so that will make his position unable to do much in providing assists or scoring goals.
Vinicius is like Rashford and they play best as wingers, not as strikers. Rashford has a better body that is more helpful for a striker position while Vinicius Jr. does not have such body and I believe he will never become a good striker. Vinicius Jr. can upgrade himself to play at a forward position in future, alongside with his most favorite position winger.

I agree with Real Madrid's striker problem. They shouldn't just continue with Rodrygo and Joselu as alternatives. I mean that Ancelotti even tried a two-forward system against Athletic Bilbao with Vinicius Jr and Rodrygo. That 4-3-1-2 formation must be an experimental choice of course. It worked in this match and Rodrygo scored a goal.

But I don't think this formula will work out most of the time. Vinicius Jr should play as a winger to be able to have a big impact on the match. In this match he couldn't score or make assist. Centre-forward isn't the best place for him.

But until signing a new centre-forward I guess Ancelotti will continue to try different things.
Both Vinicius Jr. and Rodrygo are wingers and they don't fit with a striker position. Both of them can play as a forward but they must sharpen more skills and have better vision to play better at the forward position. At wingers, they can maximize their speed and dribbling to help Real Madrid attacking system has more energy and create more chaos in opponent defense.

Joselu will be a first choice of Ancelotti for Real Madrid striker position but it's clearly that Joselu is not a world-class striker.

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August 15, 2023, 10:52:37 AM
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Barcelona drew away to Getafe. Barcelona, who were reduced to 10 men after Rapinha's red card towards the end of the first half, played a dominant game in the first half but could not find a goal. In the second half, with both teams down to 10 men after Getafe's Mata was red carded in the 57th minute, Barcelona increased the pressure and drew in the first match of the season.
Yesterday, Atletico Madrid made a good start to the league by winning 3-1 at home. With 3 goals and 3 points, Atletico took the lead in the first week.

And from the game, Barcelona had more chances, and enough attempts to score but all failed or were pushed out by the goalkeeper, and Barcelona losing some men actually affected their game and I wondered why they were playing rough the game was looking aggressive, they were looking for ways to win by all means and this Getafe club is a very stubborn club, and even at that they are nowhere near Barcelona from the stats barca had four shots on target and seven shots off target and this clearly shows the act of desperation that Barca wanted to score and the ball possession was 75 for Barca and 25 for Getafe so Barcelona had the lead but no goals.

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