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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
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Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
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August 15, 2023, 10:54:41 AM
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Joselu will be a first choice of Ancelotti for Real Madrid striker position but it's clearly that Joselu is not a world-class striker.

Actually nowadays the most important football is the final result. Whoever scorers it doesn't matter. But having a strong striker capable of scoring goals is an advantage. So why did Anceloti borrow Joselu hoping he could replace Benzema's role as the striker Number 9.  Indeed, at this time Joselu has not been seen to have much major contribution. But Anceloti on the Diamond model has made a new tactic with Bellingham as the fulcrum of the new midfield. Perhaps More complete if Guller is cured will make Joselu easier to score. Or make a goal from midfield.

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August 15, 2023, 11:47:00 AM
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Barcelona drew away to Getafe. Barcelona, who were reduced to 10 men after Rapinha's red card towards the end of the first half, played a dominant game in the first half but could not find a goal. In the second half, with both teams down to 10 men after Getafe's Mata was red carded in the 57th minute, Barcelona increased the pressure and drew in the first match of the season.
Yesterday, Atletico Madrid made a good start to the league by winning 3-1 at home. With 3 goals and 3 points, Atletico took the lead in the first week.

I have heard many Barcelona supporters claim that the referee is to blame for making the match appear boring by issuing so many cards, but I believe that the referee did the right thing because when a player violates the rules of the game, he will be given a card for him to play in normal way. The Barcelona match against Getafe was extremely boring because of the excessive number of cards, and the match is not even enjoyable to watch because the two teams don't want to play nicely on the pitch. Barcelona The match ended in a draw as a result of Barcelona receiving two red cards, one each for Raphina and Xavi, which caused them to have 10 players left on the pitch.

We all know that Getafe is not better than Barcelona, even though they are smaller and less powerful. It would be better if Barcelona performed well in their next match because Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid will not give up this season due to the way they started with laliga matches this season. Due to his red card, Xavi will be unable to coach Barcelona in their upcoming game. He should exercise caution in the future to prevent receiving additional cards.

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August 15, 2023, 11:52:22 AM
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Barcelona drew away to Getafe. Barcelona, who were reduced to 10 men after Rapinha's red card towards the end of the first half, played a dominant game in the first half but could not find a goal. In the second half, with both teams down to 10 men after Getafe's Mata was red carded in the 57th minute, Barcelona increased the pressure and drew in the first match of the season.
Yesterday, Atletico Madrid made a good start to the league by winning 3-1 at home. With 3 goals and 3 points, Atletico took the lead in the first week.

And from the game, Barcelona had more chances, and enough attempts to score but all failed or were pushed out by the goalkeeper, and Barcelona losing some men actually affected their game and I wondered why they were playing rough the game was looking aggressive, they were looking for ways to win by all means and this Getafe club is a very stubborn club, and even at that they are nowhere near Barcelona from the stats barca had four shots on target and seven shots off target and this clearly shows the act of desperation that Barca wanted to score and the ball possession was 75 for Barca and 25 for Getafe so Barcelona had the lead but no goals.

The red card was exactly the right choice made by the referee because this is one of the most stupid fouls I have seen. Firstly, it is generally stupid to attack any other player on the pitch intentionally with your elbow trying to hit their face. Barcelona should suspend him for 3 months without pay. Secondly, if the player is stupid enough to attack his opponent with his elbow anyway, how stupid can Raphinha be to ignore the fact that we now have the VAR? Even if the referee misses the attack at first, it will easily be discovered by the VAR and the referee will be informed and show the red card accordingly. This deserves an extra punishment for stupidity.

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August 15, 2023, 11:57:44 AM
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Joselu will be a first choice of Ancelotti for Real Madrid striker position but it's clearly that Joselu is not a world-class striker.
When it comes to world-class strikers, Joselu doesn't presently interaction, but he is steadily catching up with the team and his physique is improving. Karim Benzema's absence is felt at the Santiago Bernabeu; his teammates, coach, and supporters clearly miss him. Nothing to be concerned about; things will ultimately get back into shape, there will always be time to hit harder than ever, and Carlo Ancelotti will bolster his team this season. Joselu will start on the frontline, but it will take some time for him to adjust to Los Blancos' style of game. Carlo Ancelotti kept him on the bench and started his regular frontlines, hoping to start the Spaniard later. In 38 appearances for Espanyol, Joselu scored 17 goals and had three assists last season, so his new teammates counting on him this season.

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August 15, 2023, 12:09:51 PM
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At the moment I have doubts Joselu would be the first choice for Real Madrid. You know Joselu came onto the pitch in Rodrygo's place in the last 10 minute. Rodrygo scored a goal in that match also. Because of that Rodrygo would stay as first choice for Ancelotti for a while. Joselu is new around here too which we shouldn't forget about.

Ancelotti even tried an attacking line with Rodrygo and Vinicius. Even if he continues with this system in the next fixture also I don't think Joselu would be a part of it in the starting lineup.

Let's say Real Madrid didn't sign a new striker and Ancelotti returned to a formation with one striker. Then maybe Joselu might find more chances as Rodrygo and Vinicius would probably be on the wings. But it is up to Ancelotti of course. Maybe he will continue to use Rodrygo at the centre and Valverde will be on the right wing.

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August 15, 2023, 01:07:21 PM
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The red card was exactly the right choice made by the referee because this is one of the most stupid fouls I have seen. Firstly, it is generally stupid to attack any other player on the pitch intentionally with your elbow trying to hit their face. Barcelona should suspend him for 3 months without pay. Secondly, if the player is stupid enough to attack his opponent with his elbow anyway, how stupid can Raphinha be to ignore the fact that we now have the VAR? Even if the referee misses the attack at first, it will easily be discovered by the VAR and the referee will be informed and show the red card accordingly. This deserves an extra punishment for stupidity.

If you give a red card for stupidity, then half of the players will simply never go on the field. By the way, Xavi may never have approached the field too - after the game he, as always, said nonsense during an interview where he accused everyone (judges, VAR, rivals) at the same time said that he did not blame Raphinha  Grin Now for his delusional aggressive statements, instead of a 2-game suspension, he can get a 4-game suspension (Raphinha will receive a minimum of 2, a maximum of 3).

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August 15, 2023, 01:29:38 PM
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Joselu will be a first choice of Ancelotti for Real Madrid striker position but it's clearly that Joselu is not a world-class striker.

Actually nowadays the most important football is the final result. Whoever scorers it doesn't matter. But having a strong striker capable of scoring goals is an advantage. So why did Anceloti borrow Joselu hoping he could replace Benzema's role as the striker Number 9.  Indeed, at this time Joselu has not been seen to have much major contribution. But Anceloti on the Diamond model has made a new tactic with Bellingham as the fulcrum of the new midfield. Perhaps More complete if Guller is cured will make Joselu easier to score. Or make a goal from midfield.
Many people have doubts about Joselu but we cannot conclude this quickly. The season will run and at the end we can see whether Joselu can become a player who really supports Madrid's appearance or not. I don't expect much from Joselu, but seeing other compositions such as the support of Bellingham, Vini and Rodrygo can complement Joselu shortcomings. This is where a solid team will be built with cohesiveness with each other. While waiting for Arda Guller to recover, Madrid will open up a bit, considering Guller skills can be the right answer.

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August 15, 2023, 01:37:51 PM
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I agree with Real Madrid's striker problem. They shouldn't just continue with Rodrygo and Joselu as alternatives. I mean that Ancelotti even tried a two-forward system against Athletic Bilbao with Vinicius Jr and Rodrygo. That 4-3-1-2 formation must be an experimental choice of course. It worked in this match and Rodrygo scored a goal.

But I don't think this formula will work out most of the time. Vinicius Jr should play as a winger to be able to have a big impact on the match. In this match he couldn't score or make assist. Centre-forward isn't the best place for him.

But until signing a new centre-forward I guess Ancelotti will continue to try different things.
right now there is no pure striker or striker who is only tasked with scoring goals at Real Madrid who has good quality. A team as big as Real Madrid should know about the shortcomings of their current team and be able to immediately improve before the transfer window closes.
I'm sure that if Real Madrid don't bring in a new striker they will have difficulties throughout the season and Ancelotti will continue to create new formulas to be able to maintain team stability, of course it will be very difficult.
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August 15, 2023, 02:10:42 PM
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Joselu will be a first choice of Ancelotti for Real Madrid striker position but it's clearly that Joselu is not a world-class striker.

Actually nowadays the most important football is the final result. Whoever scorers it doesn't matter. But having a strong striker capable of scoring goals is an advantage. So why did Anceloti borrow Joselu hoping he could replace Benzema's role as the striker Number 9.  Indeed, at this time Joselu has not been seen to have much major contribution. But Anceloti on the Diamond model has made a new tactic with Bellingham as the fulcrum of the new midfield. Perhaps More complete if Guller is cured will make Joselu easier to score. Or make a goal from midfield.
Many people have doubts about Joselu but we cannot conclude this quickly. The season will run and at the end we can see whether Joselu can become a player who really supports Madrid's appearance or not. I don't expect much from Joselu, but seeing other compositions such as the support of Bellingham, Vini and Rodrygo can complement Joselu shortcomings. This is where a solid team will be built with cohesiveness with each other. While waiting for Arda Guller to recover, Madrid will open up a bit, considering Guller skills can be the right answer.
Joselu must be able to prove his capacity as a reliable attacker. Currently Joselu's position is very advantageous because Ancelotti does not have many options up front. Yes, with the support of the players you mentioned, of course, the new Madrid striker will be very spoiled with brilliant passes, it's just that he has to prepare his mentality as a true fighter. I won't be in a hurry to judge it, but at least until halfway through the season, Joselu should really be able to answer some people's doubts about him.

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August 15, 2023, 02:19:22 PM
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The red card was exactly the right choice made by the referee because this is one of the most stupid fouls I have seen. Firstly, it is generally stupid to attack any other player on the pitch intentionally with your elbow trying to hit their face. Barcelona should suspend him for 3 months without pay. Secondly, if the player is stupid enough to attack his opponent with his elbow anyway, how stupid can Raphinha be to ignore the fact that we now have the VAR? Even if the referee misses the attack at first, it will easily be discovered by the VAR and the referee will be informed and show the red card accordingly. This deserves an extra punishment for stupidity.

We can all see that it was stupid of him to attack a player like that, and he has already had his punishment for it, and also his team as a result of his careless attitude. Then having him go on an extended suspension by the club is like dumping your rage on him, and if the team uses that anger against him and punishes him further, it will do more harm than good. Rapinha is a player that they need not like other long-term warm bencher like other substitutes. He simply needs to be admonished and counselled about his dangerous behaviour. This can happen to anyone, therefore they should handle him calmly and not with hostility.

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In Atlético Madrid vs Granada team Granada scored 1 goal today. On the other hand Atlético Madrid won the match by scoring 3 goals. 3 players of Atlético Madrid team played very well today and scored goals. In this match Granada team goalkeeper A. Ferreira is very bad.  did.S.  Omorodion Aghehowa scored a goal in the 62nd minute.

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August 15, 2023, 03:19:51 PM
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In Atlético Madrid vs Granada team Granada scored 1 goal today. On the other hand Atlético Madrid won the match by scoring 3 goals. 3 players of Atlético Madrid team played very well today and scored goals. In this match Granada team goalkeeper A. Ferreira is very bad.  did.S.  Omorodion Aghehowa scored a goal in the 62nd minute.

Amazingly, Atletico really didn't play Joao Felix and Atletico still got a good final result. Because after all, this victory with a score of 3-1 also makes Atletico able to be at the top of the La Liga standings now. Thus, it is possible that Joao Felix will actually be sold in the near future, because after all the transfer market is still open at least until the end of this month.

Also, Depay who only played in the second half came on as a substitute to replace Morata, but Depay still managed to score in this match. So yes, it seems that Depay also has a good chemistry at Atletico, and thus Atletico may be a title candidate as well this season. Considering, it looks like Barcelona this season might not be as good as last season which had a good dominance.

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August 15, 2023, 03:28:17 PM
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In Atlético Madrid vs Granada team Granada scored 1 goal today. On the other hand Atlético Madrid won the match by scoring 3 goals. 3 players of Atlético Madrid team played very well today and scored goals. In this match Granada team goalkeeper A. Ferreira is very bad.  did.S.  Omorodion Aghehowa scored a goal in the 62nd minute.
Atletico madrid looks very strong right now. There's no need to use felix anymore and he shall leave from the club. A perfect result achieved by duo atletico while barcelona was struggling with its performance. I hope that barcelona will not make the same mistake in upcoming match. Morata just proves him still worth as a central striker. Atletico sees the importance of retaining him over switching to Felix, who has shown a terrible performance. Depay is also still doing very well. He was scoring a goal against granada.
Granada was not a tough opponent but atletico mdrid's win must be appreciated. It's an excellent result from atletico madrid even though the club cannot get a cleansheet against granada.
Three points are enough for the first week rather than 1. Granada was lucky enough scoring a goal against atletico madrid.

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August 15, 2023, 03:36:57 PM
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At the moment I have doubts Joselu would be the first choice for Real Madrid. You know Joselu came onto the pitch in Rodrygo's place in the last 10 minute. Rodrygo scored a goal in that match also. Because of that Rodrygo would stay as first choice for Ancelotti for a while. Joselu is new around here too which we shouldn't forget about.

Ancelotti even tried an attacking line with Rodrygo and Vinicius. Even if he continues with this system in the next fixture also I don't think Joselu would be a part of it in the starting lineup.

Let's say Real Madrid didn't sign a new striker and Ancelotti returned to a formation with one striker. Then maybe Joselu might find more chances as Rodrygo and Vinicius would probably be on the wings. But it is up to Ancelotti of course. Maybe he will continue to use Rodrygo at the centre and Valverde will be on the right wing.
Real Madrid performed very well in the opening party of La Liga this season, although without a pure striker, Ancelotti squad managed to win full points. It doesn't matter if Ancelotti starts Joselu in the last 10 minutes of the game, which is a problem when Joselu starts but Madrid stalemates without scoring. Overall the Madrid squad has the same depth, meaning that both defenders, midfielders and Wenger can all score goals.

Thus Ancelotti does not have to force recruiting a pure striker, because other players in the squad can do the same thing as a striker does, which is to score goals, I think this is where Madrid excels.

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August 15, 2023, 04:01:56 PM
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Actually nowadays the most important football is the final result. Whoever scorers it doesn't matter. But having a strong striker capable of scoring goals is an advantage. So why did Anceloti borrow Joselu hoping he could replace Benzema's role as the striker Number 9.  Indeed, at this time Joselu has not been seen to have much major contribution. But Anceloti on the Diamond model has made a new tactic with Bellingham as the fulcrum of the new midfield. Perhaps More complete if Guller is cured will make Joselu easier to score. Or make a goal from midfield.
Many people have doubts about Joselu but we cannot conclude this quickly. The season will run and at the end we can see whether Joselu can become a player who really supports Madrid's appearance or not. I don't expect much from Joselu, but seeing other compositions such as the support of Bellingham, Vini and Rodrygo can complement Joselu shortcomings. This is where a solid team will be built with cohesiveness with each other. While waiting for Arda Guller to recover, Madrid will open up a bit, considering Guller skills can be the right answer.
Real Madrid did not add too many players up front after several players left last season, they only brought in Joselu on loan and Guller is projected in the long term. Guller recently suffered an injury before making his debut in an official match, while Joselu has not yet received the full trust of Ancelotti.

Actually Real Madrid chose a big plan behind the lack of players brought in on the front lines, but the development of contract extension negotiations between Mbappe and PSG made Real Madrid fail to get Mbappe for free in the summer of 2024. My observations on the Real Madrid squad this season, they need to bring in players who are able to operate in the striker or winger positions. The season is still long, there are still many matches that Real Madrid needs to go through, player injuries could happen to the Real Madrid striker at any time, Real Madrid needs to move to overcome before this situation occurs.

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August 15, 2023, 04:23:02 PM
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This is a pretty bad start to the season for Barcelona in my opinion.

Lewandowski was a bit ineffective in this game, but he is still at the beginning of the season. I think it's normal to see performances like this in such periods. I really liked the performance of Gavi, who came on later in the game, he prevented a Getafe goal in the last minutes of the game. Also, Lamine Yamal was very good. He's only 16 but the Barcelona jersey suits him very well. He has a good chance of becoming a star. Barcelona gave positive signals for the new season but didn't play good football in the first game. Next week they play with Cadiz at home. I have no doubt that they will try harder for the three points.

There are always times in a player’s career when things seem not to be working in their favour on a match day. I am sure Lewandoski understands this too. Barcelona youngsters are really in performing on a high level, showing good signs of a better future for Barcelona. Hopefully the club can keep this players and help them reach their full potential and give back to the club.

Raphinha is normally a quite disciplined team when we look at his history of cards given to him. He doesn't get cards often in his career. But the thing he did in this game was really unnecessary. It was a direct red card at the second time if I don't remember wrong. Therefore his punishment might go up to a few games.

This wouldn't be good for Barcelona at all. Because they have just lost Dembele and now Raphinha will be suspended of a red card for probably a few games.

I still believe that they need to sign a winger after bringing Cancelo on loan most probably. They can loan a winger also.
These are tough times for Barcelona, having to be without both wingers at this early stage of the season, Dembele’s move away with no replacement yet is already trouble to Xavi, Raphinha’s suspension will be more trouble for Xavi having to rotate the squad to cover this position until Barcelona finally get a winger to replace Dembele.
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August 15, 2023, 05:39:05 PM
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In Atlético Madrid vs Granada team Granada scored 1 goal today. On the other hand Atlético Madrid won the match by scoring 3 goals. 3 players of Atlético Madrid team played very well today and scored goals. In this match Granada team goalkeeper A. Ferreira is very bad.  did.S.  Omorodion Aghehowa scored a goal in the 62nd minute.
Atletico madrid looks very strong right now. There's no need to use felix anymore and he shall leave from the club. A perfect result achieved by duo atletico while barcelona was struggling with its performance. I hope that barcelona will not make the same mistake in upcoming match. Morata just proves him still worth as a central striker. Atletico sees the importance of retaining him over switching to Felix, who has shown a terrible performance. Depay is also still doing very well. He was scoring a goal against granada.
Granada was not a tough opponent but atletico mdrid's win must be appreciated. It's an excellent result from atletico madrid even though the club cannot get a cleansheet against granada.
Three points are enough for the first week rather than 1. Granada was lucky enough scoring a goal against atletico madrid.

Atletico Madrid performed well in the first match. The team maintained dominance from the start of the match. Also they have an excellent squad this season. Griezmann and Depay are quite talented players in attack. We got a good performance from them in the first match. Morata is also in good form. If these three players are in good form, Atletico Madrid's performance will be stable. Argentinian player De Paul is also playing well in midfield. Atlético Madrid will fight for the title this season if the players can put up M performances. And I think Atletico Madrid have the ability to fight for the title this season.

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August 15, 2023, 06:24:29 PM
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Joselu will be a first choice of Ancelotti for Real Madrid striker position but it's clearly that Joselu is not a world-class striker.
When it comes to world-class strikers, Joselu doesn't presently interaction, but he is steadily catching up with the team and his physique is improving. Karim Benzema's absence is felt at the Santiago Bernabeu; his teammates, coach, and supporters clearly miss him. Nothing to be concerned about; things will ultimately get back into shape, there will always be time to hit harder than ever, and Carlo Ancelotti will bolster his team this season. Joselu will start on the frontline, but it will take some time for him to adjust to Los Blancos' style of game. Carlo Ancelotti kept him on the bench and started his regular frontlines, hoping to start the Spaniard later. In 38 appearances for Espanyol, Joselu scored 17 goals and had three assists last season, so his new teammates counting on him this season.
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August 15, 2023, 06:34:01 PM
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In Atlético Madrid vs Granada team Granada scored 1 goal today. On the other hand Atlético Madrid won the match by scoring 3 goals. 3 players of Atlético Madrid team played very well today and scored goals. In this match Granada team goalkeeper A. Ferreira is very bad.  did.S.  Omorodion Aghehowa scored a goal in the 62nd minute.
Atletico madrid looks very strong right now. There's no need to use felix anymore and he shall leave from the club. A perfect result achieved by duo atletico while barcelona was struggling with its performance. I hope that barcelona will not make the same mistake in upcoming match. Morata just proves him still worth as a central striker. Atletico sees the importance of retaining him over switching to Felix, who has shown a terrible performance. Depay is also still doing very well. He was scoring a goal against granada.
Granada was not a tough opponent but atletico mdrid's win must be appreciated. It's an excellent result from atletico madrid even though the club cannot get a cleansheet against granada.
Three points are enough for the first week rather than 1. Granada was lucky enough scoring a goal against atletico madrid.

Atletico Madrid performed well in the first match. The team maintained dominance from the start of the match. Also they have an excellent squad this season. Griezmann and Depay are quite talented players in attack. We got a good performance from them in the first match. Morata is also in good form. If these three players are in good form, Atletico Madrid's performance will be stable. Argentinian player De Paul is also playing well in midfield. Atlético Madrid will fight for the title this season if the players can put up M performances. And I think Atletico Madrid have the ability to fight for the title this season.

It was ok although I think that the 3-1 in the end makes it look more of a dominant performance than it actually was.

The good start is the first step for them, but I believe that a serious test is going to take place against Betis Sevilla as they have also had a good first game and they are strong in their home games most of the time.

I am kind of on the fence what to hope in that game because on the one hand I would like to see Atletico win the game to preserve the chance for a title fight between the top three teams Barcelona, Real Madrid and Atletico, but on the other hand I do expect Betis show a great performance that would make them deserve the three points.

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August 15, 2023, 06:44:11 PM
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Joselu will be a first choice of Ancelotti for Real Madrid striker position but it's clearly that Joselu is not a world-class striker.
When it comes to world-class strikers, Joselu doesn't presently interaction, but he is steadily catching up with the team and his physique is improving. Karim Benzema's absence is felt at the Santiago Bernabeu; his teammates, coach, and supporters clearly miss him. Nothing to be concerned about; things will ultimately get back into shape, there will always be time to hit harder than ever, and Carlo Ancelotti will bolster his team this season. Joselu will start on the frontline, but it will take some time for him to adjust to Los Blancos' style of game. Carlo Ancelotti kept him on the bench and started his regular frontlines, hoping to start the Spaniard later. In 38 appearances for Espanyol, Joselu scored 17 goals and had three assists last season, so his new teammates counting on him this season.
When the most brilliant student in the class leaves the class, everyone misses that student, including the teacher and classmates, but the class activities are not off for that brilliant student. As time changes, a new brilliant student joins the class or one of the old students becomes a good student again so that the classmate or teacher gets busy with him and forgets the old student. Same goes for Benzema, Karim Benzema is missed so much by everyone because his void is now unfilled. Karim Benzema will be forgotten by everyone, including manager supporters and teammates, when Karim Benzema's void is filled. Since the departure of Karim Benzema at the start of the season, surely Real Madrid should have found a good replacement for Karim Benzema.

Karim Benzema's vacancy cannot be filled so quickly. Benzema was the best and most important player in Madrid's squad. He would not only score but also help stabilize the overall performance of the team. And that's why it's possible to fill Benzema's void so quickly. Even if Mbappe had joined the team as Benzema's replacement, he would not have been able to dominate as quickly as Benzema.

The problem with Vini and Rodrygo is that they miss a lot of easy chances. Perhaps Madrid's performance will improve if their performance is a bit more stable. At the same time, Joselu is yet to adapt himself well to Madrid.

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