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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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August 21, 2023, 09:35:56 AM
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The Real Madrid Champions League has been on my mind as well, but I don't believe that Real Madrid will have any challenges there because their team is now in terrific shape, and I was extremely pleased with how they played against Almeria. Real Madrid defeated Almeria 3-1. Almeria scored early in the game, around the 3 minute, which led them to believe real Madrid would be weak and not score. However, thanks to the team's performance and Bellingham's astute move, real Madrid won. If Kroos' goal had been allowed to stand, real Madrid's goal would have been higher. I really admire Bellingham for the way he took the real Madrid game much more seriously than when he was in his former team.

Real Madrid did not use kepa, and I'm not sure why; they used lunin instead of kepa, the new goalkeeper they acquired from Chelsea. Many people have criticised lunin for being not very good and intelligent, but I still think he is good, and real Madrid used him in place of kepa to boost his confidence as one of the team's goalkeepers. I also noticed that Vini Jr. worked harder than previously, but I still have issues with his play since he will occasionally have a good opportunity to score but will not play the ball. It is not awful to perform talents and dribble someone down the field, but as a side player, he should also be shrewd enough to make a shot to the post, and I believe he should learn that from Valverde.
Real Madrid are still too strong even though they lost some of their core players in this transfer window. Bellingham has been the player who has shone the most in the last two matches with Real Madrid and he will be a player who will have a big impact on Real Madrid in the champions league this season.

Karim Benzema departure to the Saudi Arabian league was previously believed to be a loophole that Ancelotti had to think about in this season's transfer window. However, Bellingham seems to be able to overcome this gap because he is so active in scoring goals in two matches in the domestic league. So Ancelotti doesn't seem too worried if they don't find new stickers in this transfer window.

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August 21, 2023, 10:08:55 AM
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Without being accompanied by Xavi in ​​this match, Barcelona managed to come out in this match by winning. It really took extra hard work to break into Cadiz goal because Lewandowksi et al had difficulty scoring goals in the first half due to Cadiz tight defense. In the second half, Barcelona game was getting better controlled and they scored 2 goals in the second half which allowed barcelona to win its first victory in front of its supporters.

This victory will be Barcelona's motivation to look to the next match because they have to be really consistent in every game because their rivals have been impressive in the first two matches this season.
I salute the spirit of the Barcelona players who continued to fight throughout the game even without Xavi on the sidelines. The difficulty of scoring goals still cannot be overcome by Barcelona's front line, fortunately they were able to finish the match with a win after scoring two goals in the last 10 minutes of normal time. Of course this victory is a motivation for Barcelona players to continue to get full points. In the next match Barcelona will play away to Villarreal headquarters, they have to play even more aggressively because Villarreal is stronger than Cadiz.

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August 21, 2023, 10:15:31 AM
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In today's match of the Spanish League, Real Betis vs Atlético Madrid, we enjoyed a very tough fight between these two teams.
I can't enjoy this match. Either of clubs were playing so passive. Even betis has zero goal attempts against atletico while simeone's club was only able making one shot on target. It seems like that defensive line from both of clubs are very solid.
It makes how hard to scoring. I can see that how betis is trying so heard in defending against atletico madrid. The match is quite boring.

The players of both teams could not score any goals from the first to the end of the game. Atlético Madrid is now in the 4th position in the points table. On the other hand, Real Betis is in the 6th position.There was no goal after many efforts by the players of both teams. But the goalkeepers of both teams showed a very good performance which resulted in no goal. But I thought Atlético Madrid would win the match with 1 goal but it didn't happen. For which the points were shared between the two teams.
What i can see from this match if atletico madrid is not able breaking betis's defensive line. Betis has a great wall that was preventing atletico to win the game.
It's very go to see how atletico is trying so hard but it keeps failed till the end of time. 1 point is better rather than get nothing.

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August 21, 2023, 10:17:46 AM
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The Real Madrid Champions League has been on my mind as well, but I don't believe that Real Madrid will have any challenges there because their team is now in terrific shape, and I was extremely pleased with how they played against Almeria. Real Madrid defeated Almeria 3-1. Almeria scored early in the game, around the 3 minute, which led them to believe real Madrid would be weak and not score. However, thanks to the team's performance and Bellingham's astute move, real Madrid won. If Kroos' goal had been allowed to stand, real Madrid's goal would have been higher. I really admire Bellingham for the way he took the real Madrid game much more seriously than when he was in his former team.
Real Madrid did not use kepa, and I'm not sure why; they used lunin instead of kepa, the new goalkeeper they acquired from Chelsea. Many people have criticised lunin for being not very good and intelligent, but I still think he is good, and real Madrid used him in place of kepa to boost his confidence as one of the team's goalkeepers. I also noticed that Vini Jr. worked harder than previously, but I still have issues with his play since he will occasionally have a good opportunity to score but will not play the ball. It is not awful to perform talents and dribble someone down the field, but as a side player, he should also be shrewd enough to make a shot to the post, and I believe he should learn that from Valverde.
Real Madrid are still too strong even though they lost some of their core players in this transfer window. Bellingham has been the player who has shone the most in the last two matches with Real Madrid and he will be a player who will have a big impact on Real Madrid in the champions league this season.
Karim Benzema departure to the Saudi Arabian league was previously believed to be a loophole that Ancelotti had to think about in this season's transfer window. However, Bellingham seems to be able to overcome this gap because he is so active in scoring goals in two matches in the domestic league. So Ancelotti doesn't seem too worried if they don't find new stickers in this transfer window.

After Karim Benzema left the team we thought Madrid's performance would deteriorate badly. But this is not the case. Ancelotti has been able to pick the right players for his squad. Bellingham has been able to adapt to the Madrid squad very quickly. And in the first two matches, we have seen excellent performances from Bellingham. Real Madrid's overall performance was also stable. Vini and Rodrygo in the attack are performing well.

Ancelotti is a great coach. There is no such important player like Benzema in the squad. Even then he managed to keep the team stable. There have been many changes in Madrid's match strategy. In addition, we have seen changes in the formation of Madrid. Real Madrid is a worthy contender for La Liga this season.

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August 21, 2023, 10:25:58 AM
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Barcelona had the first win of the season yesterday night and this time in front of their legendary home crowd they did not make anymore mistakes.Cadiz is not a strong team but it is exactly with these teams that sometimes things go wrong and if Barcelona had made 2 consecutive errors they would have put at great risk their La Liga fight for the title.

It may look like Real Madrid is doing better but I think Real Madrid needs still some new players as with the actual ones I find hard for them to be competing to win the title against Barcelona.

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August 21, 2023, 11:21:56 AM
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I expected with Jude Bellingham will continues impressive performance after success scoring one goal in his debut against Athletic Bilbao last match, seems Real Madrid is favorable against Almeria on second match in La Liga. Based on line up confirmation, Real Madrid loss with their defender Éder Militão after getting injury in first match but his position will replace by Rudiger. Both them not difference level and believe with Madrid defensive not get trouble yet. Another change with Camavinga position will fill by Toni Kroos and new goal keeper Kepa Arrizabalaga
not make debut in this match because Carlo Ancelotti still use Andriy Lunin. Left thirty minutes later kick of Almeria vs Real Madrid will start, prepare all for watching the excited match in La Liga  Grin.

Yes Bellingham plays once again the trailing center forward. I have usually thought that he has strong qualities in the backwards movement as well and he would play a bit more defensively, but this is a typical Neymar position that Bellingham is now playing and I didn't expect that. But Ancelotti obviously sees him exactly in that position to play to the best of his abilities so why not.

I don't know if Modric started the last game? But for now he is sitting on the bench, but still being able to bring him on for a half-time or so is amazing and especially when you want to get a result under control with his experience.
I never doubted the ability of Jude Bellingham but I also did not expect him to adapt so fast in the Real Madrid squad. Even if I expected him to adapt it is somewhere middle of the field and not upfront scoring goals. Who knows if Ancelotti has discovered a new Jude Bellingham. Has he seen a striker in him? Grin If Jude continue this way, Mbappe deal next season might be forgotten.
I believe that since Jude is in the Madrid team he doesn't have much time to lose form and become like one of his brothers Dele Ali who was doing as great as Jude until a certain time


Well what can I say about Bellingham... I guess Dortmund is crying a little bit already as this is an amazing quality he is showing so far. They literally solved a bunch of problems at once when they signed him and I don't think that Ancelotti even expected him to play like that from the very first day he arrives.

Barcelona again had issues until the very last moment to score. No goal from Lewandowski again and with a bit more luck Cadiz goes him with a draw. They will need to improve their offensive game a lot if they plan to be successful in any competition.

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August 21, 2023, 11:30:52 AM
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Barcelona had the first win of the season yesterday night and this time in front of their legendary home crowd they did not make anymore mistakes.Cadiz is not a strong team but it is exactly with these teams that sometimes things go wrong and if Barcelona had made 2 consecutive errors they would have put at great risk their La Liga fight for the title.

It may look like Real Madrid is doing better but I think Real Madrid needs still some new players as with the actual ones I find hard for them to be competing to win the title against Barcelona.
A deserved win for Barcelona in this match. But I also appreciate the performance of Cadiz because they were able to withstand every attack Barcelona built, even if in the last 10 minutes they did not miss, they would be able to hold Barcelona without a goal. It took 82 minutes for Barcelona to score their first goal and it was undeniably thanks to Cadiz's defense that did well, yes even though they had to lose in the end.
A very meaningful win for Barcelona.

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August 21, 2023, 11:33:44 AM
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The Real Madrid Champions League has been on my mind as well, but I don't believe that Real Madrid will have any challenges there because their team is now in terrific shape, and I was extremely pleased with how they played against Almeria. Real Madrid defeated Almeria 3-1. Almeria scored early in the game, around the 3 minute, which led them to believe real Madrid would be weak and not score. However, thanks to the team's performance and Bellingham's astute move, real Madrid won. If Kroos' goal had been allowed to stand, real Madrid's goal would have been higher. I really admire Bellingham for the way he took the real Madrid game much more seriously than when he was in his former team.

Real Madrid did not use kepa, and I'm not sure why; they used lunin instead of kepa, the new goalkeeper they acquired from Chelsea. Many people have criticised lunin for being not very good and intelligent, but I still think he is good, and real Madrid used him in place of kepa to boost his confidence as one of the team's goalkeepers. I also noticed that Vini Jr. worked harder than previously, but I still have issues with his play since he will occasionally have a good opportunity to score but will not play the ball. It is not awful to perform talents and dribble someone down the field, but as a side player, he should also be shrewd enough to make a shot to the post, and I believe he should learn that from Valverde.
Real Madrid are still too strong even though they lost some of their core players in this transfer window. Bellingham has been the player who has shone the most in the last two matches with Real Madrid and he will be a player who will have a big impact on Real Madrid in the champions league this season.

Karim Benzema departure to the Saudi Arabian league was previously believed to be a loophole that Ancelotti had to think about in this season's transfer window. However, Bellingham seems to be able to overcome this gap because he is so active in scoring goals in two matches in the domestic league. So Ancelotti doesn't seem too worried if they don't find new stickers in this transfer window.

Real Madrid got enough superstar players to even have good performances with or without players like Karim Benzema since they hired Jude Bellingham in this summer from Dortmund, this player can help the attacking line and help the team to even score a goal when they lost players like Benzema in the other hand as you said Vini Jr. is working harder and this player is having good performance and if everything goes well like this for Real Madrid they even need to hire a sticker.
 


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August 21, 2023, 12:08:36 PM
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Real Madrid are still too strong even though they lost some of their core players in this transfer window. Bellingham has been the player who has shone the most in the last two matches with Real Madrid and he will be a player who will have a big impact on Real Madrid in the champions league this season.

Karim Benzema departure to the Saudi Arabian league was previously believed to be a loophole that Ancelotti had to think about in this season's transfer window. However, Bellingham seems to be able to overcome this gap because he is so active in scoring goals in two matches in the domestic league. So Ancelotti doesn't seem too worried if they don't find new stickers in this transfer window.

Play and fun aside, Real Madrid is not as strong as we think. It's good to see shuffle and from the absence of Courtois and Miliao, those two are major blow on the faces of Real Madrid but Kepa will do a great job seeing his first appearance performance but still the club is shaking, the current team didn't come close to the Real Madrid 2021 sqaud that lead them to their last Champions League. We need more reinforcement and good attacking, I love Bellingham in person but he is the only person and Rodrigo we had only as main striker.

Kareem Benzema has paid his due and Anceloti understand that too but they he's not making it seems like he need a good striker, he has the money but he is not making any moves or perhaps because there is still speculations about Mbape coming to Real Madrid as free agents. Only a matter of time before Real Madrid wear out but if Laliga is weak, they may have the ability to continue to kill every match; current form is great but we need more reinforcement.

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August 21, 2023, 12:17:40 PM
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Sevilla recently has poor performance that in the last 2 matches they cannot able to gets the winning results and the latest is Sevilla was lost against Manchester City at Europa Super Cup event and at Laliga too on week 1 Sevilla lose from Valencia and now they want to bounce back and they will attempts to beat Alaves but i think it won't be easy because Sevilla still attempts to find their shape so this is actually hard match for Sevilla

Alaves was quite strong during play for home matches and at home in all competitions Alaves has unbeatable status since January because their last defeat at home came in the Copa Del Rey competition on that month but based on to head to head statistics i can see Sevilla has good records from Alaves so maybe this time Sevilla will be able to win the match and for betting option Sevilla has odds @2.25 and they are as favourite status

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August 21, 2023, 12:59:28 PM
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Sevilla recently has poor performance that in the last 2 matches they cannot able to gets the winning results and the latest is Sevilla was lost against Manchester City at Europa Super Cup event and at Laliga too on week 1 Sevilla lose from Valencia and now they want to bounce back and they will attempts to beat Alaves but i think it won't be easy because Sevilla still attempts to find their shape so this is actually hard match for Sevilla

Alaves was quite strong during play for home matches and at home in all competitions Alaves has unbeatable status since January because their last defeat at home came in the Copa Del Rey competition on that month but based on to head to head statistics i can see Sevilla has good records from Alaves so maybe this time Sevilla will be able to win the match and for betting option Sevilla has odds @2.25 and they are as favourite status

Sevilla had perfect performance in the games we saw from them against strong teams in the Europa League last season but still, this team doesn't have a good performance to get good results in La Liga they had the same problem in the last season and it seems this season we are going to have the same situation for Sevilla, I think even in the game against Deportivo Alavés, Sevilla can't win this game because also I can see the rates for Deportivo Alavés are not bad with 3.60. However, Deportivo Alavés never won a game against Sevilla in the last five meets they had.



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August 21, 2023, 01:15:44 PM
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Pretty sad football from Barcelona and although they won, I think that tomorrow, when the quotes for the title in La Liga are updated, Barcelona's chances will become even a little lower.
By the way, an anomalous amount of time was added again - 15 minutes (including the first half). It annoys me, I do not see anything logical here.

The odds for the championship is like this now:

Real Madrid : 1.75   Barcelona : 2.80

I'm wondering whether this time Real Madrid will be the dominating team in the league. However I remember another thing that Barcelona couldn't start the previous season much better than this either. If they manage to improve their performance more like in that season then we can still see a lovely competition between these two teams.

These are the old quotes (more precisely, the quotes that appeared after the first round), we will see the update after the remaining two games are played today. Atlético couldn't beat Betis and I think that Real Madrid's chances will increase at least due to them, maybe the odds will be 1.70. At the moment I don't see a chance for Barcelona - weak teams will play against them in the bus and already from the first games it is clear that Xavi has no idea how to effectively overcome this.

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Sevilla recently has poor performance that in the last 2 matches they cannot able to gets the winning results and the latest is Sevilla was lost against Manchester City at Europa Super Cup event and at Laliga too on week 1 Sevilla lose from Valencia and now they want to bounce back and they will attempts to beat Alaves but i think it won't be easy because Sevilla still attempts to find their shape so this is actually hard match for Sevilla

Alaves was quite strong during play for home matches and at home in all competitions Alaves has unbeatable status since January because their last defeat at home came in the Copa Del Rey competition on that month but based on to head to head statistics i can see Sevilla has good records from Alaves so maybe this time Sevilla will be able to win the match and for betting option Sevilla has odds @2.25 and they are as favourite status

Sevilla had perfect performance in the games we saw from them against strong teams in the Europa League last season but still, this team doesn't have a good performance to get good results in La Liga they had the same problem in the last season and it seems this season we are going to have the same situation for Sevilla, I think even in the game against Deportivo Alavés, Sevilla can't win this game because also I can see the rates for Deportivo Alavés are not bad with 3.60. However, Deportivo Alavés never won a game against Sevilla in the last five meets they had.



against Deportivo Alavés I don't think Sevilla will do badly. but indeed they have problems with their performance in La Liga. whatever happens. but when facing strong teams in the Europa League, Sevilla can appear strong and win.
it's really sad if in the end Sevilla has to be like last season in La Liga. fans certainly don't want to see the team they support continue like that. the match against Deportivo Alavés, I think it can be an attempt for Sevilla to recover a little better.

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August 21, 2023, 01:28:37 PM
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Sevilla recently has poor performance that in the last 2 matches they cannot able to gets the winning results and the latest is Sevilla was lost against Manchester City at Europa Super Cup event and at Laliga too on week 1 Sevilla lose from Valencia and now they want to bounce back and they will attempts to beat Alaves but i think it won't be easy because Sevilla still attempts to find their shape so this is actually hard match for Sevilla

Alaves was quite strong during play for home matches and at home in all competitions Alaves has unbeatable status since January because their last defeat at home came in the Copa Del Rey competition on that month but based on to head to head statistics i can see Sevilla has good records from Alaves so maybe this time Sevilla will be able to win the match and for betting option Sevilla has odds @2.25 and they are as favourite status

Sevilla had perfect performance in the games we saw from them against strong teams in the Europa League last season but still, this team doesn't have a good performance to get good results in La Liga they had the same problem in the last season and it seems this season we are going to have the same situation for Sevilla, I think even in the game against Deportivo Alavés, Sevilla can't win this game because also I can see the rates for Deportivo Alavés are not bad with 3.60. However, Deportivo Alavés never won a game against Sevilla in the last five meets they had.



It is quite difficult to predict the outcome of the Alaves vs Sevilla match and it is possible that the match will end in a draw. But I also don't want to underestimate Alaves, however, this time they came as one of the promotion teams this season and considering it's still an early game, anything can still happen. On the other hand, Sevilla are not so good when competing in La Liga and they have to improve their performance so they can get 3 points in this match.

We know that sometimes Sevilla can be good and it can be bad, considering that this is an away game I think they will try and avoid defeat as much as possible. When referring to H2H, I think Sevilla is still superior but to anticipate unwanted things, they have to score goals first so they can dominate the match. But if I have to bet then I will take the draw no bet option with odds @1.51 for Sevilla.

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August 21, 2023, 01:31:29 PM
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This is Barcelona's first win of the season at the start of the season, they were winless in Round 1 and were drawn but yesterday's match was a resounding 2-0 win. The Cadiz team is not as strong as Barcelona but they played well at Barcelona's home ground. However, Barcelona's first match win of the season was really impressive but they are fifth in the points table with four points. On the other hand we have seen Real Madrid topping the table points in La Liga as they have won their two matches in the beginning of the season with impressive results to take the first place in the table points. Barcelona have not done much better than Real Madrid this season which is why they are yet to reach the top of the points table. However, if the players can play well in the next matches of Barcelona, it is definitely possible to reach the top of the points table.

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August 21, 2023, 02:24:59 PM
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Barcelona had the first win of the season yesterday night and this time in front of their legendary home crowd they did not make anymore mistakes.Cadiz is not a strong team but it is exactly with these teams that sometimes things go wrong and if Barcelona had made 2 consecutive errors they would have put at great risk their La Liga fight for the title.

It may look like Real Madrid is doing better but I think Real Madrid needs still some new players as with the actual ones I find hard for them to be competing to win the title against Barcelona.

Cadiz might not be the strongest team now but whenever they gave face Barcelona they tend to be more focused and defends very well.
I didn't expect the goals in the game to exceed a total of three goals and it came out as planned, Barcelona didn't do so poorly in the first place but they should make sure they don't back down ahead the league has a long way to go, so they will be in the final conclusion of bringing Cancelo over to Barcelona on loan hoping to make it sealed a complete move next season. Real Madrid are having three points no big deal but the end is all that matters the league will be decided between Barcelona and Real Madrid.

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August 21, 2023, 02:34:50 PM
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Real Madrid basically got caught sleeping and conceded the first goal to be honest. The defending was sloppy. But after that Real Madrid was able to turn things around and in the end Real Madrid was able to be the victorious team in this match. Jude Bellingham got a brace for himself. That was really good performance from him. I have to say Real Madrid started the season very well.

The first match of Real Madrid was against Athletic Bilbao. And this match against Almeria. Both of them were not so easy to be honest. Especially the first match. And so far the start have been very good. Let’s see if Real Madrid can continue performing like this sort the rest of the season. So far we also have not seen the bad effect of having injuries in the team.
That is a natural thing because usually in the early minutes each team has not found the rhythm of the game, so sometimes it becomes a little problematic which results in goals like the Real Madrid game against Almeria. However, when they have got the rhythm of the game, the game will change where Real Madrid appears quite confident in carrying out attack after attack. The start of the season has been quite good for Ancelotti's men, this has strengthened the existing squad and the presence of Jude Belligham has really changed the doubts of many people so far.

It's only been two matches and Real Madrid haven't faced a top team that has a balanced strength, so the effects of several injured players haven't affected the team as a whole. Maybe we need to see when they face Atletico Madrid and Barcelona, whether Real Madrid can still maintain consistency or not when faced with a much more balanced team.

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August 21, 2023, 02:43:44 PM
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This is Barcelona's first win of the season at the start of the season, they were winless in Round 1 and were drawn but yesterday's match was a resounding 2-0 win. The Cadiz team is not as strong as Barcelona but they played well at Barcelona's home ground. However, Barcelona's first match win of the season was really impressive but they are fifth in the points table with four points. On the other hand we have seen Real Madrid topping the table points in La Liga as they have won their two matches in the beginning of the season with impressive results to take the first place in the table points. Barcelona have not done much better than Real Madrid this season which is why they are yet to reach the top of the points table. However, if the players can play well in the next matches of Barcelona, it is definitely possible to reach the top of the points table.
As for Barcelona, they are happy to have secured 3 points at home. But they still have work to do, yes we saw them struggling to break down a defense that deployed a deep defensive line, so they were only able to create goals in the second half as the game drew to a close.
I haven't focused on the standings in the first 2 games, because it's still early, but it's good to start looking there and see what the situation is like in the standings. I remember we'll also be curious about who's going to be at the top of the table at the halfway point of the season, even though it's not a deciding factor for the championship, but it can be an idea of what the scenario will be in the second round of the league.

Ateltico Madrid in another match had to settle for sharing the points with Betis. Yes in that tight game they both struggled to penetrate each other's defense so that no goals were created in this match.

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August 21, 2023, 03:03:52 PM
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This is Barcelona's first win of the season at the start of the season, they were winless in Round 1 and were drawn but yesterday's match was a resounding 2-0 win. The Cadiz team is not as strong as Barcelona but they played well at Barcelona's home ground. However, Barcelona's first match win of the season was really impressive but they are fifth in the points table with four points. On the other hand we have seen Real Madrid topping the table points in La Liga as they have won their two matches in the beginning of the season with impressive results to take the first place in the table points. Barcelona have not done much better than Real Madrid this season which is why they are yet to reach the top of the points table. However, if the players can play well in the next matches of Barcelona, it is definitely possible to reach the top of the points table.
Barcelona looked struggling to win the match, Xavi squad was only able to score a goal in the 81st minute. Statistically, Barca could win possession, but their line of attack looked so dull. On the other hand Barca's several chances were saved by the Cadiz goalkeeper and their defense looked very solid.

So far only Real Madrid and Valencia have managed to collect perfect points and top the La Liga standings. Looks like Barca will have trouble defending the championship trophy this season.

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August 21, 2023, 03:51:01 PM
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I do not think that Real will have trouble at UCL until a point, but after that it is going to be tough. For example I am sure that they will be good enough in the UCL groups, that should be possible and they will get out of the group stages, it would be highly unlikely for them not to get out of the group stages, can't remember how many times that even happened. After that it all depends on the teams they match, because if they match with a big team right away then they may end up losing at last 16, but if they don't?

They can still beat people up until like semi finals based on lucky draw. They have enough of a good team to not be underrated against other teams, there are like maybe 3 teams on the whole world I would consider better than them.

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