La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2024/25

[3meek]

Atletico Madrid completely destroyed Rayo Vallecano. That was totally unexpected. Rayo Vallecano won their first two games without conceding a goal. Some writers expect them to make a surprise against Atletico Madrid but exact opposite happened. Atletico Madrid showed their offensive power. Griezmann, Memphis, Morata, Correa, Llorente everybody scored. After 72nd minute Rayo dissolved, they lost concentration totally. It's hard to recover from such losses. Let's see how they will be back from this traumatic loss.

Wow, losing 0-7 was really embarrassing and happened in front of their own fans. Rayo Vallecano certainly feels like a nightmare, it's a shame I didn't watch this match, but it's like when Liverpool destroyed Manchester United but the difference is that the team that loses is the away team.
Rayo Vallecano certainly felt like they were being crushed, and Atletico Madrid didn't feel the need to have a lot of possession they just took every chance they created and seven goals in a game is amazing even sometimes against very weak teams it's hard to see a score like that because a team that the weak understand that playing defense is the best way of slaughter.
This defeat will certainly affect them mentally because previously their defense was impenetrable so Rayo did not concede a goal, the result of this match should not have made them down too deep because next up against Betis is also a tough match and they must back up soon.

In my multi bet yesterday the last event was a Rayo Vallecano goal... I was really hoping they would score, but Atletico really made an away nightmare... Honestly I don't remember such a match of Atletico where they scored so many goals... Maybe they want to win La Liga again...

[shinratensei_]

Real Madrid are really very upset about Vinicius' injury. So far there have been no signs on the part of Real Madrid to sign a player to fill the place left by the Brazilian. Ancelotti will probably work out several alternatives to cover the hole, it is possible that Don Carlo will change his scheme and rotate the player's position but if this is done then of course there will be consequences, especially regarding Jude Bellingham's position which is also likely to change. At the moment there are only a few alternatives that Ancelotti might do, maybe Valverde will try to play as a winger or he could just play the Brahim Diaz-Joselu-Rodrygo trio. But I'm sure Ancelotti is preparing the plan very carefully and he probably doesn't want Bellingham's position to be shifted and he will still put Bellingham as a false nine.

No signal from ancellotti if the club is willing to recruit a new forward to replace vini at this moment. Madrid had some options in the club but these players are not as good as vini. Madrid may need to change its strategy caused by vini will not able to play for at least one month.

Even though he has been suffering no serious injury but it's enough in giving pressure to the real madrid as club must be playing without him. Vini was really a valuable player since the previous season.
It's bad to see him absent from helping madrid to take the risk. Madrid may need to put rodrygon on the left and then joselu plays as a right winger but bellingham will still be in the same position.
I know this will not be the same when vini was playing for real madrid but madrid is not having a lot of good winger right now. Im feeling doubt about the performance from real madrid to play without vini soon.

[Cryptmuster]

Atletico Madrid managed to show their might this season by crushing Rayo Vallecano with a pretty striking score. This big win is certainly a good capital for Rojiboancos to look at the next match against Sevilla. Diego Simione is certainly very satisfied with the performance of his team and this big win also added a sweet note to his coaching career. However, despite the success of celebrating goals, of course that cannot be a guide for the coach, because this is still in the early stages of starting this season's campaign. For Simione this victory must be a whip for his troops to be able to maintain consistency. At the moment Atletico Madrid has only collected 7 points from the results of two wins and one game ended in a goalless draw.

It's unusual to see such a performance from Atlético, and the Vallecano area is not the kind of team that can lose by a big score. The next matches will show how good Atlético are because they have three rounds to play against difficult opponents, Sevilla, Valencia and Real Madrid. But for Atlético, such a big victory is an exception, in the first round they played 0-0 with Betis, it's just more like Atlético.

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Atletico Madrid managed to show their might this season by crushing Rayo Vallecano with a pretty striking score. This big win is certainly a good capital for Rojiboancos to look at the next match against Sevilla. Diego Simione is certainly very satisfied with the performance of his team and this big win also added a sweet note to his coaching career. However, despite the success of celebrating goals, of course that cannot be a guide for the coach, because this is still in the early stages of starting this season's campaign. For Simione this victory must be a whip for his troops to be able to maintain consistency. At the moment Atletico Madrid has only collected 7 points from the results of two wins and one game ended in a goalless draw.

It's unusual to see such a performance from Atlético, and the Vallecano area is not the kind of team that can lose by a big score. The next matches will show how good Atlético are because they have three rounds to play against difficult opponents, Sevilla, Valencia and Real Madrid. But for Atlético, such a big victory is an exception, in the first round they played 0-0 with Betis, it's just more like Atlético.

This is quite an extraordinary performance for Atletico Madrid, they showed the productivity of their goals in the last two games after failing to win in the first match of the season against Real Betis.
Vallecano actually started the season quite well and they were a pretty solid team in the first 2 matches but no one thought that they were crushed by Atletico at their own turf.
Atletico Madrid have corrected their mistakes last season which started the season was not good, but this season they have improved from that and shown that this team is much stronger than the previous season and they should be counted on to become a competitor for Real Madrid and also Barcelona up for the title.

[topbitcoin]

Atletico Madrid managed to show their might this season by crushing Rayo Vallecano with a pretty striking score. This big win is certainly a good capital for Rojiboancos to look at the next match against Sevilla. Diego Simione is certainly very satisfied with the performance of his team and this big win also added a sweet note to his coaching career. However, despite the success of celebrating goals, of course that cannot be a guide for the coach, because this is still in the early stages of starting this season's campaign. For Simione this victory must be a whip for his troops to be able to maintain consistency. At the moment Atletico Madrid has only collected 7 points from the results of two wins and one game ended in a goalless draw.

It's unusual to see such a performance from Atlético, and the Vallecano area is not the kind of team that can lose by a big score. The next matches will show how good Atlético are because they have three rounds to play against difficult opponents, Sevilla, Valencia and Real Madrid. But for Atlético, such a big victory is an exception, in the first round they played 0-0 with Betis, it's just more like Atlético.

True, I didn't even see such a big score for Atletico last season because they always have the same problems in finishing but in this match they looked very different.
Rayo aren't the favorites or the dark horses but they're always troublesome but in this game they were so fragile. 3 goals in 36 minutes in the first half and 4 goals in just 13 minutes in the second half made them look like they were mentally broken and lost momentum after so many goals.
On the other hand, I like this because if Atletico continue to play like this, the conditions to see the competition will be more open in the title.

[bering]

It was a beautiful victory for Atletico Madrid to defeated their opponent in their home 0-7 for the favour of Atletico Madrid without allowed them to score a single goal through out the match. This match really prove how prepare Atletico Madrid coach prepared his players against this season, because their strikers was doing wonders from the first half to scored 3 goals to lower the strength of Rayo vallecano so that they can have more access to their goalpost in the second half. Based on what Atletico Madrid has displayed in this season to be the first team to achieved 7 goals in a match in this season, show that they can drag this title with Barcelona in this season if they can maintain this performance till the end of the tournament.

This is away match for Atletico Madrid and not home match and i never thought Rayo will be humiliated with big scores just like this because previously Rayo performance were quite good and everything looks very easy for Atletico Madrid to win this match after Griezmann score goal in eary minutes in the first half and they were unstoppable on the second half because Atletico Madrid can able to scores 4 goals within 20 minutes and this is so far their biggest winning for away match during their participant at Laliga and this result also make their position jumped to 2nd place and apparently Atletico Madrid had good start because they were still unbeatable in the last 3 matches

[Pulsar77]

This is the biggest win Atletico Madrid got against Vallecano after the one in 2013 with a 5-0 result.    Their doing this in an away match is an incredible job as well when we think they never defeated them away this easy before. Atletico Madrid even had odds around 1.80-1.90 for the win so I assume nobody saw this coming.

Morata is really impressive this season surprisingly. He scored two nice goals in this match as well. His goals weren't very easy ones either. I remember him being quite inconsistent on one-on-ones against the goalkeeper. But he was quite coldblooded on his both goals. I liked Correa's goal the most as it was a lovely chip goal.   

Atletico Madrid started really different this season. What do you think?

[len01]

Atletico Madrid completely destroyed Rayo Vallecano. That was totally unexpected. Rayo Vallecano won their first two games without conceding a goal. Some writers expect them to make a surprise against Atletico Madrid but exact opposite happened. Atletico Madrid showed their offensive power. Griezmann, Memphis, Morata, Correa, Llorente everybody scored. After 72nd minute Rayo dissolved, they lost concentration totally. It's hard to recover from such losses. Let's see how they will be back from this traumatic loss.

Wow, losing 0-7 was really embarrassing and happened in front of their own fans. Rayo Vallecano certainly feels like a nightmare, it's a shame I didn't watch this match, but it's like when Liverpool destroyed Manchester United but the difference is that the team that loses is the away team.
Rayo Vallecano certainly felt like they were being crushed, and Atletico Madrid didn't feel the need to have a lot of possession they just took every chance they created and seven goals in a game is amazing even sometimes against very weak teams it's hard to see a score like that because a team that the weak understand that playing defense is the best way of slaughter.
This defeat will certainly affect them mentally because previously their defense was impenetrable so Rayo did not concede a goal, the result of this match should not have made them down too deep because next up against Betis is also a tough match and they must back up soon.

of course Rayo will be very embarrassed at home conceding 7 goals and congratulations to Atletico Madrid for successfully beating it out with a fantastic goal and I also congratulate the -3 bettors who managed to get very high odds.

TBH, I bet on this match but did not watch this match because it was a little busy but after seeing the match recap I was a little surprised that Rayo defensive performance was very bad because it always gave Atletico Madrid players the opportunity to score goals and this would be a very embarrassing history for Rayo.

[Sim_card]

Atletico Madrid completely destroyed Rayo Vallecano. That was totally unexpected. Rayo Vallecano won their first two games without conceding a goal. Some writers expect them to make a surprise against Atletico Madrid but exact opposite happened. Atletico Madrid showed their offensive power. Griezmann, Memphis, Morata, Correa, Llorente everybody scored. After 72nd minute Rayo dissolved, they lost concentration totally. It's hard to recover from such losses. Let's see how they will be back from this traumatic loss.

Wow, losing 0-7 was really embarrassing and happened in front of their own fans. Rayo Vallecano certainly feels like a nightmare, it's a shame I didn't watch this match, but it's like when Liverpool destroyed Manchester United but the difference is that the team that loses is the away team.
Rayo Vallecano certainly felt like they were being crushed, and Atletico Madrid didn't feel the need to have a lot of possession they just took every chance they created and seven goals in a game is amazing even sometimes against very weak teams it's hard to see a score like that because a team that the weak understand that playing defense is the best way of slaughter.
This defeat will certainly affect them mentally because previously their defense was impenetrable so Rayo did not concede a goal, the result of this match should not have made them down too deep because next up against Betis is also a tough match and they must back up soon.

Such is life,football is full of surprises and we should expected the unexpected. It was a big shock that Rayo was drilled in this way by Atletico Madrid,who showed them no mercy and didn't take all the chances that they had to score for granted. If you watch the game,you will see that the moment the last goal was scored many Rayo fans started leaving the stadium because it was a shame that Athletico Madrid score these number of goals in their own home. The second half was a mess on Rayo side as they couldn't calm down the pressure of Athletico Madrid that lead to the scoring of more goals than in the first half.

[Iranus]

Atletico Madrid completely destroyed Rayo Vallecano. That was totally unexpected. Rayo Vallecano won their first two games without conceding a goal. Some writers expect them to make a surprise against Atletico Madrid but exact opposite happened. Atletico Madrid showed their offensive power. Griezmann, Memphis, Morata, Correa, Llorente everybody scored. After 72nd minute Rayo dissolved, they lost concentration totally. It's hard to recover from such losses. Let's see how they will be back from this traumatic loss.

Wow, losing 0-7 was really embarrassing and happened in front of their own fans. Rayo Vallecano certainly feels like a nightmare, it's a shame I didn't watch this match, but it's like when Liverpool destroyed Manchester United but the difference is that the team that loses is the away team.
Rayo Vallecano certainly felt like they were being crushed, and Atletico Madrid didn't feel the need to have a lot of possession they just took every chance they created and seven goals in a game is amazing even sometimes against very weak teams it's hard to see a score like that because a team that the weak understand that playing defense is the best way of slaughter.
This defeat will certainly affect them mentally because previously their defense was impenetrable so Rayo did not concede a goal, the result of this match should not have made them down too deep because next up against Betis is also a tough match and they must back up soon.

Such is life,football is full of surprises and we should expected the unexpected. It was a big shock that Rayo was drilled in this way by Atletico Madrid,who showed them no mercy and didn't take all the chances that they had to score for granted. If you watch the game,you will see that the moment the last goal was scored many Rayo fans started leaving the stadium because it was a shame that Athletico Madrid score these number of goals in their own home. The second half was a mess on Rayo side as they couldn't calm down the pressure of Athletico Madrid that lead to the scoring of more goals than in the first half.

It's not often that Atlético Madrid win by such a big margin. Because this team does not play much attacking strategy. We usually see Atlético Madrid play defensively. But against Rayo Vallecano we saw a different Atlético Madrid side. Griezmann gave Atletico Madrid the lead by scoring in just 2 minutes. The players of Rayo Vallecano probably did not imagine that Griezmann would score so quickly. And scoring this goal probably boosted the confidence of the Atletico Madrid players. Atletico Madrid took a 3-0 lead in the first half. They scored 4 more goals in the second half. But the interesting thing is that 6 players of Atletico Madrid scored goals in this match. Only Alvaro Morata scored two goals. In addition, Llorente, Griezmann, Correa, Molina and Depay scored one goal each.

[makishart]

It was a beautiful victory for Atletico Madrid to defeated their opponent in their home 0-7 for the favour of Atletico Madrid without allowed them to score a single goal through out the match. This match really prove how prepare Atletico Madrid coach prepared his players against this season, because their strikers was doing wonders from the first half to scored 3 goals to lower the strength of Rayo vallecano so that they can have more access to their goalpost in the second half. Based on what Atletico Madrid has displayed in this season to be the first team to achieved 7 goals in a match in this season, show that they can drag this title with Barcelona in this season if they can maintain this performance till the end of the tournament.

It's a perfect result from atletico madrid. Atletico was not only winning the match perfectly but it's also destroying vallecano. Atletico madrid has a very solid defense combined with a very strong attacking line at this moment. I think that atletico madrid is even stronger compared with real madrid at this moment with so many great players played there. Morata, depay, griezmann were able working together. I saw that about how vallecano feels so difficult in preventing the counterattack that was coming from all of the attackers of atletico madrid.
It surprises me that if atletico was able beat vallecano with a very huge scores like that. That reminds me with the result between manchester united vs liverpool which was also having the same scores as this match last season.
That's an impressive achievement by simeone. He was also praising how good his squad is right now after the match. EZ win for atletico madrid.

[Fiatless]

Atletico Madrid completely destroyed Rayo Vallecano. That was totally unexpected. Rayo Vallecano won their first two games without conceding a goal. Some writers expect them to make a surprise against Atletico Madrid but exact opposite happened. Atletico Madrid showed their offensive power. Griezmann, Memphis, Morata, Correa, Llorente everybody scored. After 72nd minute Rayo dissolved, they lost concentration totally. It's hard to recover from such losses. Let's see how they will be back from this traumatic loss.

Seven goals from six players is impressive. It shows that Atletico Madrid has competent strikers and is not depending on any player. Diego Simeone's side has not also conceded a goal in three games showing that this also has a strong defense. Their next game is with Sevilla which will be a good test for Atletico because Sevilla is also a good side that is going through some hard times this season. Sevilla will be playing to get their first point this season because they have not won or drawn a single match.

I expected much from a team that has not conceded any goal in two games but football is just unpredictable. Rayo Vallecano just had a bad day because they were not totally outplayed by Atletico but they defended poorly. The fans began to leave the stadium when their team was 4 goals down. They should be grateful that their team has lost only one game, although the score was massive and the game was at home. The club will hope to return to winning ways when they play Real Betis on 2nd September.

[hahay]

Atletico Madrid managed to show their might this season by crushing Rayo Vallecano with a pretty striking score. This big win is certainly a good capital for Rojiboancos to look at the next match against Sevilla. Diego Simione is certainly very satisfied with the performance of his team and this big win also added a sweet note to his coaching career. However, despite the success of celebrating goals, of course that cannot be a guide for the coach, because this is still in the early stages of starting this season's campaign. For Simione this victory must be a whip for his troops to be able to maintain consistency. At the moment Atletico Madrid has only collected 7 points from the results of two wins and one game ended in a goalless draw.

It's unusual to see such a performance from Atlético, and the Vallecano area is not the kind of team that can lose by a big score. The next matches will show how good Atlético are because they have three rounds to play against difficult opponents, Sevilla, Valencia and Real Madrid. But for Atlético, such a big victory is an exception, in the first round they played 0-0 with Betis, it's just more like Atlético.

Yes indeed, it is very rare for Atletico to win with such a big score. What's more, in the previous two matches also that Rayo Vallecano can win with clean sheets. But who would have thought, on the third mathday Rayo Vallecano was actually beaten by Atletico with a score of 0-7. In addition, about Atletico next match which will play at home against Sevilla, at least I think it is not a difficult match for Atletico. Because after all, the fact is that Sevilla is currently also at the bottom of the La Liga standings because Sevilla has received three consecutive defeats. With the poor record that Sevilla has at this moment, then I personally firmly believe that Atletico will still win in the home match against Sevilla in the next match.

[piebeyb]

Atletico Madrid started really different this season. What do you think?

Yes, that's right. After previously getting a draw against Betis, of course, did not make Atletico Madrid satisfied, they shaved off Vallecano by winning 7 goals without reply playing as a guest at home to Vallecano. Of course, Vallecano supporters were very disappointed to see their club shaved off by Ateltico Madrid. after that victory put Atletico madrid in 2nd place in the LaLiga standings.

Since LaLiga this season started, I have seen Atletico Madrid play not as usual. They played very well, so the communication between the players on the field was very good, so it was easier to score goals against Vallecano, especially when I saw Vallecano's back line, which always gave gaps so it was easy for Atletico Madrid to score goals. Vallecano is easy, of course besides all that thanks to the strategy implemented by Simeone, I think we need to see in the next match next week against Sevilla which has a bad record of losing in a row since LaLiga started, this is Atletico Madrid's chance to steal points again.

[hd49728]

Yes indeed, it is very rare for Atletico to win with such a big score. What's more, in the previous two matches also that Rayo Vallecano can win with clean sheets. But who would have thought, on the third mathday Rayo Vallecano was actually beaten by Atletico with a score of 0-7.

Such big defeats usually occur when losers entirely collapses in a match and they give up without any effort to pull the match back. Not only Vallecano but we barely saw some big defeats from big clubs like Manchester United, Arsenal or national team like Brazil lost against Germany 1 - 7 in World Cup 2014.

In addition, about Atletico next match which will play at home against Sevilla, at least I think it is not a difficult match for Atletico. Because after all, the fact is that Sevilla is currently also at the bottom of the La Liga standings because Sevilla has received three consecutive defeats. With the poor record that Sevilla has at this moment, then I personally firmly believe that Atletico will still win in the home match against Sevilla in the next match.

Sevilla got bad results in previous matches and it looks to be a good chance for Atletico Madrid to get three points from Sevilla. Though Sevilla are in a very poor form, Atletico Madrid should not play carelessly in that match as Sevilla still have many good players and they can bounce back to beat Atletico Madrid.

Seven goals from six players is impressive. It shows that Atletico Madrid has competent strikers and is not depending on any player.

It's impressive and shows that Atletico Madrid can have goals from many players. They don't rely on a single player to score goals but as a big club, they need to have an outstanding striker to win titles. In La Liga, they are still weaker than Barcelona and Real Madrid so even they won big against Vallecano, I don't feel positive about their chance to win La Liga.

[Despairo]

Such big defeats usually occur when losers entirely collapses in a match and they give up without any effort to pull the match back. Not only Vallecano but we barely saw some big defeats from big clubs like Manchester United, Arsenal or national team like Brazil lost against Germany 1 - 7 in World Cup 2014.

Lost with big margins is obviously shame, but Brazil lost in world cup wasn't impact anything since it's happen in semi final, there's no point to defend when they feel they're have zero chance to win. But this is domestic league where every teams' position depend on the table, losing with big margins will surely make their goal difference points become really bad. Currently Rayo Vallecano's goal difference points is -3, this is not good considering they were relegated few times.

[harapan]

The fact that Barcelona won seems to be cool and 3 points is 3 points, but given the previous two games, I would say that this is another sign of weakness (if we are talking about the fight for the title). And with such a game (both in attack and defense), one should not count on any success in Eurocups. Maybe Xavi will be able to even out the situation, but globally I expect a repeat of previous seasons - instability that will not always end as well as today.

That's correct, the "three points is three points" talk might be true for La Liga, but when this is against the best European teams in the Champions League, I don't think that Barcelona has a realistic chance to make it to the semifinal. Maybe the quarterfinals could be possible, but the last season was a good example of what you just explained. A team like Inter Milan punishes this and doesn't lose the game like Villareal did. Both games against Cadiz and Getafe have already had some warning signals. Having one close game against an inferior team is normal, but these three games taken together aren't very promising so far.

By the way, as I expected, the bookmakers also rated this game as a minus for Barcelona and the quotes for the La Liga title shifted a little more in favor of Real Madrid. Now, according to the bookmakers, the odds of Real Madrid are 1.68 and Barcelona are 2.75. I consider this bias to be quite serious and still profitable to bet on Real (but I want to wait until September 1st to know for sure if Mbappe will come).

Yes, Real Madrid seems stronger than Barcelona this season. Real Madrid are still unbeaten in the 23/24 season. Real Madrid is at the top position in the La Liga points table with 9 points. As a Real Madrid supporter I expect them to qualify for the title this season. To make Real Madrid a strong team. I congratulate the coach of Real Madrid

Real Madrid are scoring lesser goals if noticable and defending well and better than Barcelona. Barcelona has scored a total of six goals within the last two games they have played. They had a poor defending strategy Barcelona needs to work on that, the goal that put Villarreal ahead to make them two one was a reckless goal. Some powerful cut in chances and shots but the youngest Barcelona player on the pitch couldn't score. Real Madrid has Vini Injured Ancellotti says no to any more introduction but that would affect the club when it gets to scoring goals.

[Luzin]

Sorry if it doesn't enter the discussion but this is related to Spanish Football. This is related to the case of the president of the Spanish football federation, Luis Rubiales kissing a Spanish Women's National Team player in front of the media. This created a lot of controversy to date. But it seems that FIFA immediately moved quickly to investigate this case. They seem to have made the decision through the Chairman of the FIFA Disciplinary Committee, Jorge Ivan Palacio (Colombia). Jorge suspended Rubiales from all football-related activities at national and international level. Duration of detention for 90 days.

Source: https://www.aljazeera.com/sports/2023/8/26/fifa-suspends-spanish-football-president-luis-rubiales-over-hermoso-kiss

[temple]

The fact that Barcelona won seems to be cool and 3 points is 3 points, but given the previous two games, I would say that this is another sign of weakness (if we are talking about the fight for the title). And with such a game (both in attack and defense), one should not count on any success in Eurocups. Maybe Xavi will be able to even out the situation, but globally I expect a repeat of previous seasons - instability that will not always end as well as today.

That's correct, the "three points is three points" talk might be true for La Liga, but when this is against the best European teams in the Champions League, I don't think that Barcelona has a realistic chance to make it to the semifinal. Maybe the quarterfinals could be possible, but the last season was a good example of what you just explained. A team like Inter Milan punishes this and doesn't lose the game like Villareal did. Both games against Cadiz and Getafe have already had some warning signals. Having one close game against an inferior team is normal, but these three games taken together aren't very promising so far.

By the way, as I expected, the bookmakers also rated this game as a minus for Barcelona and the quotes for the La Liga title shifted a little more in favor of Real Madrid. Now, according to the bookmakers, the odds of Real Madrid are 1.68 and Barcelona are 2.75. I consider this bias to be quite serious and still profitable to bet on Real (but I want to wait until September 1st to know for sure if Mbappe will come).

I don't know your stakes of course, but for me personally the odds of 1.68 wouldn't be worth tying funds to a bet that takes almost a year to clear. I get that you assessed the bias here according to your opinion and whether it is worth the bet based on the bias only instead of opportunity cost in case other bets come up with a similar bias and less time that your funds might be tied to a potential bet.

But when you talk about the bias, I would be interested in your opinion what the odds for Real Madrid and Barcelona should be? Since this whole season is still going and one factor is Mbappe, that's true, but apart from that Real Madrid could always get in trouble and maybe lose two players like they did with Courtois.

I have had a look at the Premier League and Manchester City stands at 1.45. I can't really figure out what fair odds would be, but 1.68 doesn't really feel wrong. But I agree if I had to make a bet now on either Manchester City or Real Madrid for their domestic titles, I think I would go with Real Madrid as well. I just don't think the odds are way too high because bookies also know that time is also a factor bettors pay for.

[asriloni]

Yes, Real Madrid seems stronger than Barcelona this season. Real Madrid are still unbeaten in the 23/24 season. Real Madrid is at the top position in the La Liga points table with 9 points. As a Real Madrid supporter I expect them to qualify for the title this season. To make Real Madrid a strong team. I congratulate the coach of Real Madrid

I can't even say if madrid is stronger than barcelona at this moment. We have not yet seen the el classico. Barcelona might be below the real madrid but if we are also seeing from the result of pre season if barcelona could fully dominating real madrid.
I could make an excuse if bellingham was not fully adapting to the club but we must wait till that time is gonna come soon. Madrid was always performing so badly since last season against barcelona.
Barcelona has been also strengthening its club through buying some great players from the winner of UCL last season. Joao cancelo already expected to join in barcelona to strengthen its defensive line. This is a serious threat for real madrid.
I must be honest if a real madrid is not strong enough at this moment even though it has skilled players like bellingham. Madrid needs to beat barcelona first.
The weirdest thing if sometime real madrid able performs better in UCL compared with barcelona.