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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (23.8%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.2%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 9 (7.4%)
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September 01, 2023, 06:57:30 AM
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It seems that luck is very much on Barcelona's side this season in the Champions League. Barcelona occupies the last group which is inhabited by teams that tend to be no better than them, so basically Barcelona will be the favorites to qualify for the round of 16 this season.

I know Barcelona shouldn't be happy because no one knows if they can overcome all these challenges easily. Porto and Shakhtar are not to be underestimated, but I'm sure Barcelona will go ahead as planned.


Xavi could breathe a sigh of relief after the UCL Drawing was completed, Barcelona got an easier opponent after getting the advantage of joining Pot 1. Barcelona is the favorite team in Group H, only Porto is the toughest opponent Barcelona faces in the race to win Group.
Even though Barcelona joins a relatively easy group, Xavi must not underestimate his opponents, he must remain focused on his goal of qualifying for the round of 16. The obstacles that Barcelona are still facing this season are on the front and back lines. Lewandowski is still having trouble scoring goals and is still very easy for the opposing team to break into.

2 consecutive seasons they always failed and did not get a favorable group, this time everything turned around because looking at the opponent's conditions for the current group for Barcelona it is something that I think is quite easy if you look at their opponents this time.

Xavi must make good use of this situation this season because the chance to qualify for the next phase is very large in the Champions League. This is indeed quite good and with their current condition which is getting better in terms of performance and finances of course my hope is that they can do even better in the Champions League because this can spur their enthusiasm when they qualify from the group phase which distinguishes Barcelona this season in contrast to the previous 2 seasons.

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September 01, 2023, 07:00:08 AM
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 Since I started watching Barcelona team playing from season to season have never seen them starting at a very slow pace after winning the league. This season is some how with Barça, like they're not having that force of winning without problem but they have to struggle, the first game they played was horrible, played a goalless draw and it seems like they all went to defend with the red card, later won 2nil then last week was a battle for 3 point 3-4, thought they were going to lose that game, this isn't what I expected in their first 3 games of the season.
 All I see in this Barça team is they're losing that force in making teams lose their strength even the smaller teams are trying to beat Barça, I can't say Xavi is still building the team because if it they still have that idea in their head then the champions league would be hard for them to qualify from the group stage.

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September 01, 2023, 07:34:13 AM
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Since I started watching Barcelona team playing from season to season have never seen them starting at a very slow pace after winning the league. This season is some how with Barça, like they're not having that force of winning without problem but they have to struggle, the first game they played was horrible, played a goalless draw and it seems like they all went to defend with the red card, later won 2nil then last week was a battle for 3 point 3-4, thought they were going to lose that game, this isn't what I expected in their first 3 games of the season.
 All I see in this Barça team is they're losing that force in making teams lose their strength even the smaller teams are trying to beat Barça, I can't say Xavi is still building the team because if it they still have that idea in their head then the champions league would be hard for them to qualify from the group stage.


What you say is true, I totally agree with you. I too see the extreme effort he puts into playing and winning and I don't understand what's happening. Maybe an athletic fitness issue? The players seem really tired and tried, exhausted.

Let's see in the next games if they recover.


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September 01, 2023, 07:40:28 AM
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It seems that luck is very much on Barcelona's side this season in the Champions League. Barcelona occupies the last group which is inhabited by teams that tend to be no better than them, so basically Barcelona will be the favorites to qualify for the round of 16 this season.

I know Barcelona shouldn't be happy because no one knows if they can overcome all these challenges easily. Porto and Shakhtar are not to be underestimated, but I'm sure Barcelona will go ahead as planned.


Barcelona are the favourite in this  group,  they have good players that can make them obtain victory in every match If really they want victory and Barcelona already has a good coach that is experienced.  I don't think Barcelona games in this group will be difficult for them, this is a group Barcelona expected to win all their games. Barcelona can do well on champions league this time around,  they just need to increase their motivation to win more.

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September 01, 2023, 07:51:15 AM
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Looks promising with Barcelona chance qualify to next phase based on group stage is not really get difficult opponent, has opportunities for Xavi Hernandez make Barcelona qualify to next round after failure in group stage last two season in a row. Not any bigger opponent teams will make Barcelona easily managed top standings in Group H and I think Barcelona has ratio above 80% for qualifying to next round in Champion League.
Porto, Shakhtar Donetsk and Royal Antwerp is not difficult opponent teams for Barcelona and actually they have chance for winning all matches in group stage.

Give beneficial in domestic league because Barcelona can all out for getting points in La Liga, but Champion League must priority after failure last two season qualify to next round.
One of the advantages for Barcelona this season is that they don't have super difficult opponents in the group stages, but that will never give them a guarantee of easily leading Group H or qualifying for the next phase. Porto and Shakhtar seem ready to accept the challenge of competition even though on their side it will be difficult to beat Barcelona, ​​but I think they also have a chance to lock in a ticket to the last 16 phase.

Xavi has priorities in La Liga, Copa Del Rey and Champions League. Of course Barcelona has a chance, but something bad could still happen to them due to injury or other problems. Nevertheless I think everyone would agree that Barcelona can qualify for the last 16 this season although we cannot be sure how they will do it.
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September 01, 2023, 07:54:13 AM
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It seems that luck is very much on Barcelona's side this season in the Champions League. Barcelona occupies the last group which is inhabited by teams that tend to be no better than them, so basically Barcelona will be the favorites to qualify for the round of 16 this season.

I know Barcelona shouldn't be happy because no one knows if they can overcome all these challenges easily. Porto and Shakhtar are not to be underestimated, but I'm sure Barcelona will go ahead as planned.


Barcelona are the favourite in this  group,  they have good players that can make them obtain victory in every match If really they want victory and Barcelona already has a good coach that is experienced.  I don't think Barcelona games in this group will be difficult for them, this is a group Barcelona expected to win all their games. Barcelona can do well on champions league this time around,  they just need to increase their motivation to win more.
If you look at the quality of the teams in Group H, it is true that Barcelona is the strongest and there is no doubt that Barcelona will easily qualify from grub and even as grub champions, but with the quality of the team Barcelona currently has, it makes me a little pessimistic that they will be able to go further in the UCL this season.
I think realistically after seeing the performance of the Barcelona team in La Liga in their first few matches and I think it is not very good and not enough to fight against the strong teams in the UCL.
And being in Grub H is a big advantage for the Barcelona team.

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September 01, 2023, 07:54:33 AM
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Since I started watching Barcelona team playing from season to season have never seen them starting at a very slow pace after winning the league. This season is some how with Barça, like they're not having that force of winning without problem but they have to struggle, the first game they played was horrible, played a goalless draw and it seems like they all went to defend with the red card, later won 2nil then last week was a battle for 3 point 3-4, thought they were going to lose that game, this isn't what I expected in their first 3 games of the season.
 All I see in this Barça team is they're losing that force in making teams lose their strength even the smaller teams are trying to beat Barça, I can't say Xavi is still building the team because if it they still have that idea in their head then the champions league would be hard for them to qualify from the group stage.


What you say is true, I totally agree with you. I too see the extreme effort he puts into playing and winning and I don't understand what's happening. Maybe an athletic fitness issue? The players seem really tired and tried, exhausted.

Let's see in the next games if they recover.


@babo it’s just the start of the season hence I’m not too worried about Barcelona’s form because team’s often have a slow start when the new season starts and then they catch up. Furthermore Barcelona has a decent squad and it’s only a matter of time before they start showing their superiority in the La Liga hence be careful while wagering against them.
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September 01, 2023, 07:58:38 AM
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@babo it’s just the start of the season hence I’m not too worried about Barcelona’s form because team’s often have a slow start when the new season starts and then they catch up. Furthermore Barcelona has a decent squad and it’s only a matter of time before they start showing their superiority in the La Liga hence be careful while wagering against them.

Well but the Spanish league, La Liga is an easy league.

How many teams can make a difference? Three?

I'm sure Barcelona will end up in the Champions League, I'm not so sure they still win La Liga. And yes, you're right, it's a strong team that shouldn't be underestimated.

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September 01, 2023, 08:08:53 AM
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There would be no doubt luck is in side of Barcelona as they are having good favorable group which is giving them advantage for qualifying for the knockout stage and have no enough worries about anything with this all they can give their best for the La Liga which is more competitive for them in this season and their form and consistency both are not in their side in early matches but with this draw now they can do better things for the better results here and few experiments are also allowed which will help them for the improved strategy in coming weeks.

Just Porto is having some quality, but Barcelona can handle this with going into next round with topper of the group is surely amazing stuff and with this most chances they could be able to have spot into last eight as well.
indeed in this round Barcelona was very lucky in a situation where the performance was not so strong because it did not have reliable players and only got players for free but luck came when it came to being in a group with a team that was not too strong and also Barcelona had the opportunity to get rid of some of the existing teams in the H group. but Barcelona should not think that Porto is weak because even though it does not look too strong but if Barcelona players make a careless move Porto will take advantage of this opportunity because what I know is that the Porto team does not have great strength in terms of performance but in terms of stealing opportunities this team is very smart to stole the opportunity to score so that Barcelona must appear consistently in the preliminary round matches.

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September 01, 2023, 08:11:30 AM
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Since I started watching Barcelona team playing from season to season have never seen them starting at a very slow pace after winning the league. This season is some how with Barça, like they're not having that force of winning without problem but they have to struggle, the first game they played was horrible, played a goalless draw and it seems like they all went to defend with the red card, later won 2nil then last week was a battle for 3 point 3-4, thought they were going to lose that game, this isn't what I expected in their first 3 games of the season.
 All I see in this Barça team is they're losing that force in making teams lose their strength even the smaller teams are trying to beat Barça, I can't say Xavi is still building the team because if it they still have that idea in their head then the champions league would be hard for them to qualify from the group stage.

In fact, Barcelona has been playing this way for several seasons, we cantt say that it has been winning in Barcelona matches for a long time without difficulty. They achieve great things with a team that is not very strong, which is not easy.
I think the important thing is that they never give up the fight, they always fight and somehow win the match. Of course, there will be times when they have difficulties Smiley

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September 01, 2023, 08:12:32 AM
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Replacing Vinicius Junior is unrealistic I think, as there are only very few players that play the wing position so well and with such incredible pace. On top of this I believe that the combination of players they now had for their offense was really good presuming that Bellingham can maintain that level.
But it must still be done, because after all, this was an accident. After Vinicius got injured, Real Madrid seems to be changing plans a little while. In addition, Vinicius will probably be out for about 6 weeks for his recovery period until he fully recovers from his injury. Indeed, this is an unlucky start to the season for Real Madrid. For the time being, Ancelotti's best plan during Vinicius' absence is to play Brahim Diaz. This could also be a golden opportunity for Brahim Diaz to prove his appearance to strengthen the team and make a really good contribution. If he can't meet expectations, then this will be a bit difficult for him, there will definitely be a lot of criticism. However, this is the best scenario for now.
Yes but for me Vinicius Junior is one of those players that as of now belong to the absolute best wing players. I have done a little search a moment ago about the status quo of Mbappe and Real Madrid and a potential transfer and you can find all types of different versions about it. Some say that Mbappe will extend his contract with PSG with a private release clause included, some say that Real Madrid is about to send over their last offer for Mbappe.

Of course Mbappe would be the perfect fit for the position that now unluckily is open and I also doubt that Brahim Diaz can fill it to the extent that Vinicius Junior can be forgotten for the moment. This is never an easy situation and you can clearly say that Real Madrid had more bad luck than other top teams so far. Losing Vinicius Junior and Courtois before the season really started is hard to digest as they can make a difference.
Carlos Ancelotti is one of the best in this business and most chances he will fix this problem before start of the round four and Vinícius Júnior is going to replace by a suitable player for one match after this we have break and then things could be manageable for the round five as well.

But, now one thing is sure most chances Kylian Mbappé saga is already ended for this season and Real Madrid is not sending any offer for him because they are already announces they can't do things like this with their finances are not allowing them, and they don't want panic situation for the future with finances.

Kylian Mbappé is going to stay at PSG and nothing is sure what conditions are for this because no updates are available, but surely something will be happened in coming days because situation at PSG is also not good.

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September 01, 2023, 08:17:11 AM
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Since I started watching Barcelona team playing from season to season have never seen them starting at a very slow pace after winning the league. This season is some how with Barça, like they're not having that force of winning without problem but they have to struggle, the first game they played was horrible, played a goalless draw and it seems like they all went to defend with the red card, later won 2nil then last week was a battle for 3 point 3-4, thought they were going to lose that game, this isn't what I expected in their first 3 games of the season.
 All I see in this Barça team is they're losing that force in making teams lose their strength even the smaller teams are trying to beat Barça, I can't say Xavi is still building the team because if it they still have that idea in their head then the champions league would be hard for them to qualify from the group stage.
What you say is true, I totally agree with you. I too see the extreme effort he puts into playing and winning and I don't understand what's happening. Maybe an athletic fitness issue? The players seem really tired and tried, exhausted.
Let's see in the next games if they recover.
@babo it’s just the start of the season hence I’m not too worried about Barcelona’s form because team’s often have a slow start when the new season starts and then they catch up. Furthermore Barcelona has a decent squad and it’s only a matter of time before they start showing their superiority in the La Liga hence be careful while wagering against them.

Barcelona have won two of the three matches and unfortunately shared the points in one match. I wouldn't call it a bad start. This team is playing quite well. The performance of their players in the first match was not stable. So the match was a draw. But in the next two matches, Barcelona players played very well. However, there are several weaknesses within Barcelona's squad. Xavi continues to do his best to make the team stronger. Barcelona's defense needs to be strengthened. With Torres, Lewandowski and Raphinha, Barcelona's attack is now quite strong. And the chances of Barcelona winning the title are high this season too.

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September 01, 2023, 08:17:39 AM
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@babo it’s just the start of the season hence I’m not too worried about Barcelona’s form because team’s often have a slow start when the new season starts and then they catch up. Furthermore Barcelona has a decent squad and it’s only a matter of time before they start showing their superiority in the La Liga hence be careful while wagering against them.

Well but the Spanish league, La Liga is an easy league.

How many teams can make a difference? Three?

I'm sure Barcelona will end up in the Champions League, I'm not so sure they still win La Liga. And yes, you're right, it's a strong team that shouldn't be underestimated.

Based on the new talented young players Barcelona coach has brought into the team, I think Barcelona players will definitely bring positive result that will make them to win the la Liga league title and champions league title, because their players are doing well but they need to improve in some areas like defense and midfield. If Barcelona coach can encourage their midfielders and strikers to work together in their remaining matches, I believe they will make a good position in this tournament that will make them to lift the la Liga league title again. I know, there are many teams well prepared for this season but it will be difficult for Barcelona to miss first position and second position because their performance in some matches is very good if they can put more effort.

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September 01, 2023, 08:19:05 AM
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Since I started watching Barcelona team playing from season to season have never seen them starting at a very slow pace after winning the league. This season is some how with Barça, like they're not having that force of winning without problem but they have to struggle, the first game they played was horrible, played a goalless draw and it seems like they all went to defend with the red card, later won 2nil then last week was a battle for 3 point 3-4, thought they were going to lose that game, this isn't what I expected in their first 3 games of the season.
 All I see in this Barça team is they're losing that force in making teams lose their strength even the smaller teams are trying to beat Barça, I can't say Xavi is still building the team because if it they still have that idea in their head then the champions league would be hard for them to qualify from the group stage.

In fact, Barcelona has been playing this way for several seasons, we cantt say that it has been winning in Barcelona matches for a long time without difficulty. They achieve great things with a team that is not very strong, which is not easy.
I think the important thing is that they never give up the fight, they always fight and somehow win the match. Of course, there will be times when they have difficulties Smiley
Barca experienced quite a lot of difficulties. if you see how they perform when facing financial problems and forced to sell some of their players. before Xavi's arrival, this team was very chaotic. In their financial difficulties, Xavi took advantage of existing players to fight to improve performance. it's not easy for Xavi to change everything. several players acknowledged that Xavi had given the team the tough training patterns. but now they recognize Xavi's greatness in forming a team.
at least now Barca has a strong team. and I'm sure they are very ready to compete with Madrid and also other strong teams fighting for the La Liga trophy this season.



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September 01, 2023, 08:19:29 AM
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Of course there would a player to replace Vinicius but the most important thing is whether they can make sure of not feeling the absence of him too much. This doesn't seem very possible in my opinion. He will be missing at least a few games in his injury time period. He can miss at least one of the Champions League group games as well.

Vinicius is one of the most important players with Bellingham for Real Madrid now. Therefore there is no way they aren't feeling his absence much. His individual skills have been the savior for the team many times so far. Bellingham will have a bigger responsibility in his absence.

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September 01, 2023, 08:20:36 AM
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Ansu Fati is on the verge of finalising a move to Briton in a loan deal deal.Tonight is transfer deadline,and we are expecting lots of deals to happen before tomorrow morning.Ansu Fati is a very good player that can play at right wing.Briton are in a good form,althought they lost to WestHam in a 3:1 defeat.Briton don't seem to be weak even after they lost Caicedo and Mark Alister to Chelsea and Liverpool respectively.The transfer window is almost over,and the teams that needs to get their business done have already acquired whom they wanted,and whom they believe can add to quality to their teams.Ansu Fati is a nice addition to their squad.And I hope he does his best.

I think it is already done. But the truth is I definitely do not like the decision at all. I don’t think most people who actually care about Barcelona definitely do not like this decision. This was a great player who was actually capable of providing so much for Barcelona. I don’t know why Barcelona sold him at a time when they had to bring in old players because they did not have much money to work with.

This was absolutely dreadful decision by Barcelona. I was googling about this and I saw Xavi Hernandez has said that he did not like this decision at all. So my question is how does a player leave the club if the coach does not like the decision?

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September 01, 2023, 08:36:51 AM
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If you look at the quality of the teams in Group H, it is true that Barcelona is the strongest and there is no doubt that Barcelona will easily qualify from grub and even as grub champions, but with the quality of the team Barcelona currently has, it makes me a little pessimistic that they will be able to go further in the UCL this season.
I think realistically after seeing the performance of the Barcelona team in La Liga in their first few matches and I think it is not very good and not enough to fight against the strong teams in the UCL.
And being in Grub H is a big advantage for the Barcelona team.
Porto, Shakhtar Donets and Antwerp are still below Barca level I think. True, Barcelona will very easily move into the last 16, which makes perfect sense because Barca are superior in Group H. Even though they haven't shown consistency in La Liga, Barca still have a long time to prepare in the group phase. Overall, Xavi squad is still solid, the addition of Gundogan and Canselo can add depth to their squad this season.

On the other hand, several young players who graduated from La Masia are also very good, Lamine Yamal could be a new hope for the Blaugrana. Barca journey to qualify from the group phase will run smoothly i think.

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September 01, 2023, 08:41:42 AM
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One interesting fact is that Jude wasn't known as a scorer back in Dortmund, he wasn't playing in a way that he would have that many chances let alone actual scores, his expected goal rate was very low, not like he was incapable of scoring, it is just that the system wasn't build around him having that many chances, look at the stats and you will see that he scored only 20-30 goals his entire stay there for over 100+ games, probably about 150 games give or take.

Now if you look at him this time around, he has already started to score, this isn't because he suddenly learned how to score, he already knew it, but this time around he is given that chance and he is actually doing fine, I think it is going to be very difficult.

It doesn't matter whether he isn't known as a goalscorer at Borussia Dortmund or not, I think the achievements that Jude Bellingham has achieved at Real Madrid at this time can't be separated from the opportunities he gets when he is on the field, he gets opportunities and does his job, that's all. After all, it's still early in the season, we don't know whether he will continue to be consistent with his performance or not.

FYI, With him scoring 3 goals in his first 3 matches with Real Madrid, he managed to be on the same record as Cristiano Ronaldo, besides that he was also named the best player in LaLiga for the month of August, very good start for him, let's hope he can continue consistent with his performance.

I actually wonder if he is going to transition to being a forward while in Real Madrid. We saw Cristiano Ronaldo play as a winger before Real Madrid. But in Real Madrid he was playing as a striker later. I know that Jude Bellingham has played as a midfielder so far. But it is not going to be too wild to think that he is going to transition to be a striker. After all, we have seen a lot of players play in a lot of positions so far. Just look at Camavinga from Real Madrid as well. The only position where he has not played is probably the coaching position  Cheesy.

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September 01, 2023, 08:49:47 AM
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Porto, Shakhtar Donets and Antwerp are still below Barca level I think. True, Barcelona will very easily move into the last 16, which makes perfect sense because Barca are superior in Group H. Even though they haven't shown consistency in La Liga, Barca still have a long time to prepare in the group phase. Overall, Xavi squad is still solid, the addition of Gundogan and Canselo can add depth to their squad this season.

On the other hand, several young players who graduated from La Masia are also very good, Lamine Yamal could be a new hope for the Blaugrana. Barca journey to qualify from the group phase will run smoothly i think.
Even though it's hard to say anything definite about Barcelona's chances in the Champions League, but I think Barcelona can qualify and reach the last 16 easily this season. Porto, Sakhtar Donetsk and Antwerp are not teams that are too strong to hope to thwart Barcelona, ​​but I believe Porto can perform better than the other two teams.

I can expect Barcelona to lead the Group H standings this season which will likely make them more profitable, but however this is just an assumption that cannot be completely confirmed. Barcelona has the advantage, but other teams also want to win something in the group stage.

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September 01, 2023, 09:21:12 AM
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Real Madrid was truly devastated by what happened to its two mainstays. Courtois has found a suitable replacement, namely Kepa Arrizabalaga, while a replacement for Vinicius has not been found. Mbappe is indeed the most suitable for that position but for this season I don't think it will be possible because he is still under contract with PSG.
Those who are still under contract with other teams do not need to be seen as options for Real Madrid, who this season are in need of a replacement for that position, because Ancelotti only needs to look at clearer options from the squad he currently has. Because this position is a very crucial position for Real Madrid this season, especially considering that Real Madrid is still very short of attacking players and coupled with the increase in injured players such as Vinicius, there are already six injured players at the start of this season for Real Madrid.


Real Madrid can actually think the players of other clubs as options.
But there are obviously options which Real Madrid can look to buy.

Obviously, they are not options which Real Madrid can play in the next match.
Real Madrid has always been a team that gets the replacement player ready before selling a player that they already have.
But this season it has been a little different for them.

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To cover this shortcoming, I think Ancelotti will slightly change his scheme by establishing several other alternatives. Admittedly at this time Ancelotti does not have many options to rotate players for the attacking side but he will be forced to maximize the potential that exists in the likes of Brahim Diaz to fill that void. However, what might be a bit of a relief for Ancelotti is that Bellingham is really very reliable and his role is extraordinary, if his position doesn't change because there might be a change in scheme then I'm sure Real Madrid won't have any significant problems even if Vinicius leaves.

If Ancelotti needs to think about a new scheme for placing players who can still be used in the near future, this needs to be thought through more carefully because changing the scheme might not be more effective for Real Madrid. Because the players have to be in a position that may not normally affect the strength and appearance of Real Madrid itself.

Maybe,

While it is always better to have players who can play in different positions,
at the same time transitioning players to a different position is probably not the best idea for any team to be honest.



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