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Author Topic: Analysis – Who ranked who, and was ranked by whom (with an 'r’' not a 'w')  (Read 249 times)
DdmrDdmr
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There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain


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August 17, 2019, 02:21:37 PM
Merited by Welsh (10), dbshck (8), Foxpup (6), bones261 (2), LoyceV (2), iasenko (2), witcher_sense (2), Upgrade00 (2), Coin-1 (1), dkbit98 (1), Coyster (1)
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1.   Introduction

@Iasenko casted a challenge yesterday (see To all the statistics guys out there, here's a challenge), which seemed interesting. I was reluctant at first to go ahead, but alas, my mind kept rumbling through the procedure to resolve the challenge, even if I tried to avoid it. I eventually came to answer in his thread the question the challenge wanted to resolve: ¿Who had @Iasenko ranked-up by meriting them at a given moment in time?

It’s fair to say that ranking someone up is pretty incidental, and normally is not (I figure) the meriter’s intent, but rather a “lucky chance”. For some of those merited that ranked-up, it may be a memorable anecdote for a few days, and they likely will forget about it later on.

What I did to resolve the challenge serves not only for @Iasenko’s specific case, but rather for any person that has merited o being merited with ranking-up involved in the process.

Disclaimer: Although I’ve checked it pretty thoroughly, there may be a few cases that do not fit my expected scenarios. If anyone detects this, I’ll look into it.


2.   Context

The general context is the current number of profiles that have ranked-up needing additional merits to do so. I make it as of last Friday to be as follows:


That is to say, 14.529 profiles have ranked-up needing merits. For example, there are 17 Legendries, 15 of which were Hero Members when the Merit System kicked-in, 1 was a Sr. Member, and another was a Full Member.

What I’ve done is, for those 14.529 profiles, determine which sMerit TX ranked them up, who was behind it, and when it occurred. If fact, I’ve really got 15.846 records. The extra records are due to those profiles that have ranked-up more than once since the Merit System started (id someone has ranked-up 2 levels, I track both moments in time).

In addition, I have excluded counting the cases when a person was merited and became Jr. Member before the 1 merit rule (17/09/2018). For example, a person that became Jr. Member before that date, and also a Member before the 17/09/2018 did not really need merits to become Jr. Member (only Activity). If on the other hand he received one merit before the 17/09/2018, but not enough additional merits to rank up before the 17/09/2019,  then that merit did count to making him a Jr. Member (keeping the rank), and thus I have counted it in.
 

3.   Top Rankers

As requested by @Welsh, here are the top 40 Rankers (full list here – first tab: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WO9aWeysFf8tj1XbFWs9dFNmikwHfxsYk_D0aEOdRsY/edit?usp=sharing). You may need to scroll here.

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Rank      UserFromName                            User_from      nRanked        nLegendary     nHero          nSrMember      nFullMember    nMember        nJrMember     
1         OgNasty                                 18321          209            0              0              0              0              8              201           
2         suchmoon                                234771         128            8              6              12             7              27             68             
3         dbshck                                  153634         126            0              3              4              8              45             66             
4         paxmao                                  1192397        123            0              1              1              0              13             108           
5         MalReynolds                             369216         113            0              0              0              0              8              105           
6         chimk                                   1202061        101            0              1              3              6              31             60             
7         TimeTeller                              533071         89             0              0              0              0              0              89             
8         LoyceV                                  459836         87             1              2              5              6              18             55             
9         vapourminer                             33156          87             0              0              0              0              6              81             
10        bones261                                452769         75             0              2              1              3              16             53             
11        foserfox                                485194         71             0              1              0              0              1              69             
12        Jet Cash                                698159         66             0              1              0              0              17             48             
13        frodocooper                             988740         66             0              0              1              1              24             40             
14        DarkStar_                               507936         65             0              2              1              2              13             47             
15        qwk                                     24140          65             0              4              3              6              9              43             
16        EFS                                     140584         60             0              0              0              1              17             42             
17        dumbtool45                              965234         57             0              0              0              0              1              56             
18        Halab                                   1053119        54             0              0              0              1              13             40             
19        teramit                                 158960         54             0              0              0              2              10             42             
20        mole0815                                1424178        54             0              0              1              0              3              50             
21        xandry                                  382413         52             0              0              1              1              20             30             
22        Coolcryptovator                         1980983        50             0              1              0              2              27             20             
23        Vod                                     30747          48             0              0              1              1              3              43             
24        nick777                                 176605         48             0              0              0              0              1              47             
25        zanzibar                                218947         47             0              0              0              0              3              44             
26        Slark                                   255170         47             0              0              0              0              14             33             
27        tk808                                   180477         44             0              0              0              0              3              41             
28        DdmrDdmr                                1582324        42             0              0              1              2              11             28             
29        TMAN                                    98986          40             1              0              0              2              18             19             
30        taikuri13                               1855828        39             1              4              5              12             9              8             
31        unamis76                                236307         37             0              0              0              0              0              37             
32        ajochems                                187501         35             0              0              0              0              0              35             
33        JayJuanGee                              252510         35             0              1              0              0              5              29             
34        Flying Hellfish                         79608          35             1              1              5              5              8              15             
35        hugeblack                               1059082        35             0              0              0              0              9              26             
36        Vadi2323                                399366         34             0              0              0              0              3              31             
37        krogothmanhattan                        1000199        33             0              0              0              0              6              27             
38        iasenko                                 1291828        33             0              1              4              5              14             9             
39        snakey                                  250494         32             0              0              0              0              5              27             
40        klarki                                  407174         31             0              0              0              0              3              28             

4. Who ranked me and whom I ranked

In order to see this, you can access the second tab of the google doc (: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WO9aWeysFf8tj1XbFWs9dFNmikwHfxsYk_D0aEOdRsY/edit?usp=sharing)), and play around with the filters.

For example, If I filter by my UserToName I get to see who merited me, causing me to rank-up virtually or de facto:
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UserFromName                  user_from UserToName                    user_to   amount    msg                                               converted_date                RankedTo
hilariousandco                164822    DdmrDdmr                      1582324   4         3082289.msg32316357                               2018-03-17 14:17:52.000       Member
Mr. Big                       553678    DdmrDdmr                      1582324   2         3320052.msg34678855                               2018-04-15 06:22:38.000       Full Member
wiser                         120418    DdmrDdmr                      1582324   2         3723527.msg37048060                               2018-05-12 14:18:09.000       Sr. Member
paxmao                        1192397   DdmrDdmr                      1582324   1         4601377.msg41557511                               2018-07-06 20:44:35.000       Hero Member
By "virtually" I mean that the given Merit TX is the one that caused the ranking-up to occur, but I cannot backtrack the Activity to state when that occured. For example, in my case, my merit counter was ahead of my activity counter, thus the narrow timeframes between dates on the above TXs.

And If I filter by my UserFromName I get to see who I’ve ranked-up by meriting them at the precise moment:
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UserFromName                  user_from UserToName                    user_to   amount    msg                                               converted_date                RankedTo
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   KyleSpades                    812870    1         3320052.msg34880666                               2018-04-17 08:45:36.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   JoshuaBlack1                  1897307   1         3403265.msg35620104                               2018-04-26 13:35:47.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Sofiasoff                     1779108   1         3404054.msg35629533                               2018-04-26 13:44:06.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   daniel.roman                  1890148   1         2691123.msg36443004                               2018-05-06 05:30:38.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   nev1d                         1933467   1         3534750.msg36300083                               2018-05-09 16:54:06.000       Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Syka                          1481275   1         3556844.msg37492421                               2018-05-16 19:53:36.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Badisee                       1814600   1         4002271.msg37833794                               2018-05-19 20:35:45.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Kayj55                        1340693   1         3839038.msg38373061                               2018-05-24 09:56:54.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   FabiAdr76                     1950645   1         4189361.msg38416886                               2018-05-26 10:35:48.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Crypto_circuit                1442709   1         4514832.msg40647747                               2018-06-22 19:34:22.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   iasenko                       1291828   2         3108981.msg32121418                               2018-07-05 10:45:08.000       Sr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   MbyzIco                       2085659   1         4602444.msg41651882                               2018-07-07 14:27:26.000       Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   DireWolfM14                   2003859   1         4739442.msg42808240                               2018-07-24 19:16:50.000       Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Cashi                         1973300   1         4907130.msg44198076                               2018-08-16 21:02:34.000       Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Dreykku                       1864944   1         5027897.msg45615574                               2018-09-13 10:13:45.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Binugon                       1756715   1         5028298.msg45722725                               2018-09-18 06:33:24.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   jademaxxiss012                1986021   1         5031674.msg45857153                               2018-09-18 06:59:33.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Gloverwrt                     2397410   1         5032371.msg45886186                               2018-09-19 08:34:52.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Maggiordomo                   2340148   1         5023605.msg45324744                               2018-09-19 11:23:11.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Instely                       2379996   1         2314866.msg45558313                               2018-09-19 20:13:27.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   cameron_EMI                   2468704   1         5070808.msg48029820                               2018-11-19 08:02:34.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   pptIox                        2459352   1         5074297.msg48153994                               2018-11-23 10:23:55.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   daniel.roman                  1890148   1         5080250.msg48455678                               2018-12-05 10:00:07.000       Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Wafilian                      1242964   1         5082932.msg48582298                               2018-12-10 18:14:03.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Harkorede                     2160117   1         5083831.msg48621074                               2018-12-12 16:24:58.000       Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   MbyzIco                       2085659   2         5090238.msg48934915                               2019-01-07 10:25:56.000       Full Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Zarg0n                        1097101   2         5098175.msg49262204                               2019-01-16 14:31:37.000       Full Member
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DdmrDdmr                      1582324   margotcoins                   2581897   1         5150645.msg51346278                               2019-06-04 17:16:40.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   ManoPrimitiva                 2373178   1         5137423.msg51361075                               2019-06-06 09:35:04.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   Filmgrid                      2593105   1         5152524.msg51407426                               2019-06-09 16:02:01.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   olabiyijummy02                2342493   1         5161278.msg51694318                               2019-07-03 15:33:32.000       Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   adekogbe                      1556229   1         5164440.msg51795149                               2019-07-12 10:47:21.000       Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   theanh3695                    1431777   1         5169598.msg51974767                               2019-07-29 08:45:50.000       Jr. Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   sitwac                        1944251   1         5174927.msg52143815                               2019-08-13 12:40:21.000       Member

Filtering is not too tough (a bit slow though), but if anyone dislikes Google Sheets and Filters, I can place their data here in this thread.

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It’s fair to say that ranking someone up is pretty incidental, and normally is not (I figure) the meriter’s intent, but rather a “lucky chance”. For some of those merited that ranked-up, it may be a memorable anecdote for a few days, and they likely will forget about it later on.


I read your complete post but mind is struck in this line and even I think that getting merits is incidental and is depends on the reader. If the reader finds it valuable then he gives merit. But, there are thread which say that there is merit giveaway to those who are nearer to upgrading the ranks.

If those thread are taken in to count then it is also in the meriter's hand to intent someone to rank up. I do have much experience so, please correct if my point is wrong.

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Looks cool,
but I am not sure it is accurate or complete.
Maybe it is just for some members and not all of them.

My example: LoyceV and bones261  (thank you guys  Wink) each sent me 11 merits in total (can't find any info about that in google doc)

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I was reluctant at first to go ahead, but alas, my mind kept rumbling through the procedure to resolve the challenge
You beat me to it Cheesy

I didn't have scraped profile data ready, so you had a head start. When finished, let's compare data Smiley

My example: LoyceV and bones261  (thank you guys  Wink) each sent me 11 merits in total (can't find any info about that in google doc)
See http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1410401.html (I'll add total Merit amounts later, that makes it easier to find the Rank-up moment).

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I was reluctant at first to go ahead, but alas, my mind kept rumbling through the procedure to resolve the challenge
You beat me to it Cheesy

I didn't have scraped profile data ready, so you had a head start. When finished, let's compare data Smiley

My example: LoyceV and bones261  (thank you guys  Wink) each sent me 11 merits in total (can't find any info about that in google doc)
See http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1410401.html (I'll add total Merit amounts later, that makes it easier to find the Rank-up moment).

I was using this cool little magic tool   Grin

https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/GlobalSummary

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That’s because this is a different focus. What this exercise shows is who merited you at a given point in time, being those merits the fundamental ones for you to move from one rank to another.

For example, in your case we’ve got:
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UserFromName                  user_from UserToName                    user_to   amount    msg                                               converted_date                RankedTo
nid125                        660361    dkbit98                       1410401   3         4313712.msg38922781                               2018-05-30 12:19:51.000       Member
CucakRowo                     1932205   dkbit98                       1410401   2         5041209.msg46369754                               2019-08-09 12:03:39.000       Full Member
@nid125 sent you 3 sMerits on the 30/05/2018, which were the ones “used” to reach your Member rank at the time (>= 10 Merits) . Later on, on the  09/08/2019, @CucakRowo  sent you 2 sMerits, which led you to having >= 100 merits, and thus were key to swith from Member to Full Member.
All other TXs are not listed, since they did not cause you to change rank with them. Jr. Member TXs is not listed, since you reached Jr. Membership through Activity at the time.

And these are the people you've ranked-up (by meriting them enough to reach their next rank):
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UserFromName                  user_from UserToName                    user_to   amount    msg                                               converted_date                RankedTo
dkbit98                       1410401   CucakRowo                     1932205   1         4982784.msg44952559                               2018-09-17 13:16:04.000       Jr. Member
dkbit98                       1410401   CucakRowo                     1932205   6         5080772.msg49269199                               2019-01-23 18:54:12.000       Member
snap...

All your received (or sent) TXs can be retrieved on the Merit Dashboard if you wish (Tab labelled TX and filter by userToId or UserToName).
These are all the sMerit TXs sent to you specifically: https://public.tableau.com/shared/R8KBM97TH?:display_count=yes&:origin=viz_share_link

<…> I didn't have scraped profile data ready, so you had a head start. When finished, let's compare data <…>
Okeydoke …

<…> But, there are thread which say that there is merit giveaway to those who are nearer to upgrading the ranks.

If those thread are taken in to count then it is also in the meriter's hand to intent someone to rank up. I do have much experience so, please correct if my point is wrong.
Sure that happens too, and the type of thread you mention is focused on that situation, leaving the casualty in a discrete plane in these cases (nothing wrong either – a helping hand let’s say). Proportionally though, these type of threads deal with a small amount of ranking-up situations, but may easily have an important weight if we take it down to stats at an individual level (i.e. number of people ranked by x).

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Thanks for clarification and great work with all this data you provide Wink

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Merit awarding is such a subjective topic. I wonder if declared alts of legendary members are more or less likely to receive merits. I think my Talk Merit alt was the faster to climb the initial ranks based on my gaming the activity to gain 28 in the first 15 days. I've managed to run the others up to member status to enable me to use the basic signature facilities should I wish to do so.

ps. One has to resist temptation when one has over 250 sMerits to award, and one's latest alt just needs one for promotion. Smiley

I'm not sure how one could detect it, but it would be interesting to see if any members have awarded merits to any of their alts.

I've added a photography section to Fit to Talk -  The photography and content production board

Hopefully we can use this to help members earn from using budget photo kit whilst they practice their English
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I'm pretty sure LoyceV is the one that gets me wear this Full Member rank with the last 8 merits needed for me to ranked up, can't say for sure who is the one that gave me the merit to become a Member rank.

I have a question. Does this means that those on the "Ranked-up needing Merit" are the latest data, for example I'm an old era newbie so in that data I belong to the Full Member (89) list and can't be listed anymore on the Member and Jr. ranks list? Hope you get my point here.

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UserFromNameuser_fromUserToNameuser_toamountmsgconverted_dateRankedToCurrentRank










Xal0lex1068464witcher_sense14338651https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1085285.msg428505842018-07-25 15:22:47.000Jr. MemberHero Member
lovesmayfamilis1982152witcher_sense14338652https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032601.msg459551452018-09-20 18:14:29.000MemberHero Member
lovesmayfamilis1982152witcher_sense14338651https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119484.msg501210262019-03-21 04:58:14.000Full MemberHero Member
ICOEthics2204241witcher_sense14338652https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5142680.msg510341152019-05-13 23:00:47.000Sr. MemberHero Member
Alex_Sr1762404witcher_sense14338652https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4661132.msg516507202019-07-06 18:49:37.000Hero MemberHero Member

 
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<…> I have a question. Does this means that those on the "Ranked-up needing Merit" are the latest data, for example I'm an old era newbie so in that data I belong to the Full Member (89) list and can't be listed anymore on the Member and Jr. ranks list? Hope you get my point here.
Since you got your first merit on the 17/09/2018 (just on the date ranking requirements changed), that merit counted for your Jr. Membership, and thus this is the output:
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UserFromName                  user_from UserToName                    user_to   amount    msg                                               converted_date                RankedTo
Continuous                    951567    rhomelmabini                  1255873   1         5030884.msg45835689                               2018-09-17 16:55:34.000       Jr. Member
witcher_sense                 1433865   rhomelmabini                  1255873   1         5100145.msg49342767                               2019-01-22 18:36:45.000       Member
LoyceV                        459836    rhomelmabini                  1255873   3         5146871.msg51199721                               2019-07-18 09:05:22.000       Full Member

In addition, you’ve also ranked @ruthwithers1980 (to Member):
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UserFromName                  user_from UserToName                    user_to   amount    msg                                               converted_date                RankedTo
rhomelmabini                  1255873   ruthwithers1980               2400859   1         5120009.msg50138744                               2019-03-15 16:50:37.000       Member
GTG now.

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Wonderful thread, I'll check out LoyceV's work as well.
Now other thoughts came to my mind, a way to see who rank you up like your personal merit angles Smiley

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<…> Now other thoughts came to my mind, a way to see who rank you up like your personal merit angles Smiley
It’s already there … In your case it is:
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yahoo62278                    355846    iasenko                       1291828   10        3108981.msg32121418                               2018-03-21 20:24:13.000       Full Member
DdmrDdmr                      1582324   iasenko                       1291828   2         3108981.msg32121418                               2018-07-05 10:45:08.000       Sr. Member
QuestionAuthority             72795     iasenko                       1291828   20        2827596.msg45942067                               2018-09-23 18:09:28.000       Hero Member

-> On the Google Sheet, Filter Detail By UserToName or Id.

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Shame Google Fusion Tables is ending in December 2019 ... Whom @Iasenko ranked-up: 


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